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Spike#1
01-17-2020, 08:32 AM
Sure hope the Kennel Club knows the importance of having Banchero visit this weekend. Sure hope they have something planned to welcome him to the Kennel, and to show him what a game in the Kennel is all about. I believe he had said, that in all the visits he was taking, GU was the only one where he would be attending a live game. It's time for the Kennel Club to shine!

I hope they get that place rocking!

Go Zags!

Zagdawg
01-17-2020, 08:41 AM
Agree -- I am looking forward to the Kennel Club and what they will bring to help Banchero have an unforgettable experience in Spokane.

Zag365
01-17-2020, 09:09 AM
I'm assuming the KC is primed both because the opponent Sat. is BYU and because they know PB is in the house (if nothing else, there are many students from Seattle and some from O'Dea, PB's visit will be highly anticipated).

Watching the SCU game last night, I saw a lot of empty seats. This was apparent on the camera shots from behind the KC. I didn't notice the empty seats until the second half. Was this result of students leaving because it was a blowout or were there a lot of empty seats even in first half?

ZagsObserver
01-17-2020, 09:15 AM
Not sure. But it was Thursday. At least back in the day that meant karaoke at the Star.

StatZag19
01-17-2020, 09:21 AM
I hope they know his name is pronounced 'Paul-oh' and not 'Pao-loh'

Goshzagit
01-17-2020, 09:27 AM
I hope they know his name is pronounced 'Paul-oh' and not 'Pao-loh'

Literally, to-may-to or to-mah-to.

There is one thing pronouncing Fil-eep vs Fil-up, yet Paulo is well, Paulo.

CB4
01-17-2020, 09:28 AM
First of all, the young man has a strong and remarkable name.

Second of all, he goes to O Dea. Mr. Suggs, our other five star, said he liked Gonzaga because it's a place like his private prep school, felt like Family, and a place where he would be comfortable and succeed.

I think with guys like this, this is our strongest sell, in addition to our #1 ranking. "A place where you WILL succeed". Also "like family" which is where our Kennel Club needs to come up big for him!!

scrooner
01-17-2020, 09:31 AM
Is his last name pronounced ban-chair-o or ban-ker-o?

ZagNut08
01-17-2020, 09:40 AM
Hopefully he doesn't hear that shrill shrieking/screaming from the KC that flooded the broadcast last night...not sure anyone wants to play in front of that.

Birddog
01-17-2020, 10:06 AM
Hopefully he doesn't hear that shrill shrieking/screaming from the KC that flooded the broadcast last night...not sure anyone wants to play in front of that.

Was that positively the KC doing the screeching? It sounded like little kids to me, annoying none the less.

ProVeeZag
01-17-2020, 10:28 AM
Was that positively the KC doing the screeching? It sounded like little kids to me, annoying none the less.

Any person, regardless of age, who continually shrieks to get attention should get that attention they so crave in the form of a visit from a security officer who gives them a clearly understood warning that they will be escorted from the building immediately following the next such incident. To sum up, clear warning followed by expulsion.

And stay off my lawn da**it!

TexasZagFan
01-17-2020, 10:33 AM
I'm assuming the KC is primed both because the opponent Sat. is BYU and because they know PB is in the house (if nothing else, there are many students from Seattle and some from O'Dea, PB's visit will be highly anticipated).

Watching the SCU game last night, I saw a lot of empty seats. This was apparent on the camera shots from behind the KC. I didn't notice the empty seats until the second half. Was this result of students leaving because it was a blowout or were there a lot of empty seats even in first half?

According to the game thread, inclement weather was the reason for the empty seats.

Mr Vulture
01-17-2020, 10:39 AM
I'm assuming the KC is primed both because the opponent Sat. is BYU and because they know PB is in the house (if nothing else, there are many students from Seattle and some from O'Dea, PB's visit will be highly anticipated).

Watching the SCU game last night, I saw a lot of empty seats. This was apparent on the camera shots from behind the KC. I didn't notice the empty seats until the second half. Was this result of students leaving because it was a blowout or were there a lot of empty seats even in first half?

A lot of people left at halftime but the shots on TV were of the non student sections. I do think the students did start to leave as the game got absurd, but it wasn't that bad.

scrooner
01-17-2020, 10:58 AM
You gotta stay pretty late if you want to see Arlauskas and Zakharov play. My wife was wondering why I was still watching the game when we were up 50 with 3 to go, and that's the reason.

TexasZagFan
01-17-2020, 11:38 AM
You gotta stay pretty late if you want to see Arlauskas and Zakharov play. My wife was wondering why I was still watching the game when we were up 50 with 3 to go, and that's the reason.

I thought both looked pretty good out there, Martynas especially. His confidence has grown over the past few weeks.

Zagger
01-17-2020, 11:59 AM
I'm assuming the KC is primed both because the opponent Sat. is BYU and because they know PB is in the house (if nothing else, there are many students from Seattle and some from O'Dea, PB's visit will be highly anticipated).

Watching the SCU game last night, I saw a lot of empty seats. This was apparent on the camera shots from behind the KC. I didn't notice the empty seats until the second half. Was this result of students leaving because it was a blowout or were there a lot of empty seats even in first half?

I didnít notice many empty seats .... at least not from our view. With 5 mins to go and way ahead a few folks decided to bolt. It was an 8 PM game and the streets were pretty icy. We didnít blame anyone for an early departure.

http://www.fowlplaces.com/zags/D609174E-A1EE-46D6-8B1D-572A51638B01.jpeg

AirborneJag
01-17-2020, 02:57 PM
A fair number of students left shortly after the start of the second half. By the 10 minute mark, I would guess maybe 70% of the students had left. The remainder were chanting for Tacos wanting at least 2-3 more 3’s.

Weather may have been a factor but in my view an excuse. It was full at the beginning of the game. There was a pretty good exodus at the 6 minute mark and by 3 minutes only the hardcore remained. It is somewhat irritating that so many leave so early. Some of the best basketball is played in the last 6 minutes or so and you also get to hear who is the player of the game. Most of all it’s about showing respect to the players, coaches and staff for their effort, regardless of how the game turns out.

Spokane in general complains that Gonzaga built the Mac too small and they don’t get to see the Zags, but reality is when they get a chance, they arrive late and leave early. The 4 seats next to me are promo seats and have been so since the Mac opened. True to form, those people arrive late (after tip-off) and leave early - always. Last night it was 3 bankers and their outside attorney. I often wonder where in the hell do people in Spokane need to get to that causes them to engage in that behavior. My wife and I used to drive up from the TriCities for games and would often drive back afterwards. I don’t remember us ever leaving early or arriving late. Now we live on CDA Lake and it’s 58 miles one way and we are always on time and stay to the end. Most of the season ticket holders around us do the same.

I know - old school thinking.

Section 116
01-17-2020, 03:30 PM
Love that last paragraph Airborne. Could not agree more. I have friends who get furious because many season ticket holders are in a hurry to get into the Herak Club for halftime, so they leave their seats 5 minutes before halftime and come back five minutes after the second half starts so everybody has to stand so the "privileged" can return to their seats, and then they leave early. And the corporate seats, well those are a whole "nother" story. Schmooze, wine and dine. Half those folks don't give a damm about GU basketball!

hondo
01-17-2020, 03:43 PM
Well said Section and so true.

Reborn
01-17-2020, 03:46 PM
We WANT this guy!! He's the real deal. 6' 9" 230lbs and can shoot out to beyond the 3 point line. He's from O'Dea HS. Dan Dickau believes he may be the best Washington basketball player ever. Wow!!!

Ok K2. Let's show him why he wants to come to Gonzaga.

Go Zags!!!

zagmeister
01-18-2020, 01:29 PM
A fair number of students left shortly after the start of the second half. By the 10 minute mark, I would guess maybe 70% of the students had left. The remainder were chanting for Tacos wanting at least 2-3 more 3’s.

Weather may have been a factor but in my view an excuse. It was full at the beginning of the game. There was a pretty good exodus at the 6 minute mark and by 3 minutes only the hardcore remained. It is somewhat irritating that so many leave so early. Some of the best basketball is played in the last 6 minutes or so and you also get to hear who is the player of the game. Most of all it’s about showing respect to the players, coaches and staff for their effort, regardless of how the game turns out.

I know - old school thinking.

Being in attendance, I witnessed the full MAC for the Santa Clara game, and the packed student section was AWESOME in this first home game back after Winter break.

But today's students have a huge demand for their time, including tons of school and other work. This was a week-night game, with school the next day.

Students at Gonzaga are encouraged to embrace a world view; to make a difference in their lives in supporting others everywhere.

Sports are awesome, but IMHO are often over-emphasized, sensationalized by the press, and fans are frequently overly critical of players' performances.

I suggest we all give the students well-deserved appreciation for their positive involvement.

Please consider how weird and inappropriate it is for the students to taunt the visiting team with "air ball" "air ball" when the Zags are ahead by 30, 40 and wow 50 points!

The Gonzaga students are not taught to degrade others, especially when the others are less fortunate. So, in the second half of a game that's a foregone conclusion, it's super tough for the students to maintain their energy and focus to the end, given the above and many more meaningful considerations.

Hoopaholic
01-18-2020, 05:48 PM
Yes we do
We WANT this guy!! He's the real deal. 6' 9" 230lbs and can shoot out to beyond the 3 point line. He's from O'Dea HS. Dan Dickau believes he may be the best Washington basketball player ever. Wow!!!

Ok K2. Let's show him why he wants to come to Gonzaga.

Go Zags!!!

Kong-Kool-Aid
01-19-2020, 07:00 AM
So, did the students do anything? Did anyone see him at the game? Did he seem interested? Engaged?

Mantua
01-19-2020, 07:08 AM
Love that last paragraph Airborne. Could not agree more. I have friends who get furious because many season ticket holders are in a hurry to get into the Herak Club for halftime, so they leave their seats 5 minutes before halftime and come back five minutes after the second half starts so everybody has to stand so the "privileged" can return to their seats, and then they leave early. And the corporate seats, well those are a whole "nother" story. Schmooze, wine and dine. Half those folks don't give a damm about GU basketball!

Many of those folks are older, slower and need to use the restrooms.

Bogozags
01-19-2020, 07:17 AM
There is nothing against NCAA rules prohibiting him from eating tacos...give him all the tacos he wants and he’ll come ��

Zagdawg
01-19-2020, 07:22 AM
Students got a "We Want Paolo" chant going a couple of times--- he looked engaged-- and his mom was shooting a lot of video of the students section during the warmups.

JohnOGU
01-21-2020, 05:04 PM
Being in attendance, I witnessed the full MAC for the Santa Clara game, and the packed student section was AWESOME in this first home game back after Winter break.

But today's students have a huge demand for their time, including tons of school and other work. This was a week-night game, with school the next day.

Students at Gonzaga are encouraged to embrace a world view; to make a difference in their lives in supporting others everywhere.

Sports are awesome, but IMHO are often over-emphasized, sensationalized by the press, and fans are frequently overly critical of players' performances.

I suggest we all give the students well-deserved appreciation for their positive involvement.

Please consider how weird and inappropriate it is for the students to taunt the visiting team with "air ball" "air ball" when the Zags are ahead by 30, 40 and wow 50 points!

The Gonzaga students are not taught to degrade others, especially when the others are less fortunate. So, in the second half of a game that's a foregone conclusion, it's super tough for the students to maintain their energy and focus to the end, given the above and many more meaningful considerations.

Not to derail this, but...
No offense, but let’s stop making excuses for these students and acknowledge the fact that our success sometimes gets taken for granted. As a 2009 graduate I can say that time demands are not much different than when I was there. It’s not about taunting another team when you’re up by 30, it’s about supporting your squad from buzzer to buzzer, as we’ve done, without waiver, for the last 20+ years.

JAGzag
01-21-2020, 06:20 PM
Being in attendance, I witnessed the full MAC for the Santa Clara game, and the packed student section was AWESOME in this first home game back after Winter break.

But today's students have a huge demand for their time, including tons of school and other work. This was a week-night game, with school the next day.

Students at Gonzaga are encouraged to embrace a world view; to make a difference in their lives in supporting others everywhere.

Sports are awesome, but IMHO are often over-emphasized, sensationalized by the press, and fans are frequently overly critical of players' performances.

I suggest we all give the students well-deserved appreciation for their positive involvement.

Please consider how weird and inappropriate it is for the students to taunt the visiting team with "air ball" "air ball" when the Zags are ahead by 30, 40 and wow 50 points!

The Gonzaga students are not taught to degrade others, especially when the others are less fortunate. So, in the second half of a game that's a foregone conclusion, it's super tough for the students to maintain their energy and focus to the end, given the above and many more meaningful considerations.

Congrats. This sums up everything that is wrong with todayís KC and the student representation. Students donít have enough time? Sports are overly emphasized? Taunting an air ball is not okay?! Hereís an idea, give your ticket to someone who actually gives a crap.

zagssuperfan
01-21-2020, 07:43 PM
Being in attendance, I witnessed the full MAC for the Santa Clara game, and the packed student section was AWESOME in this first home game back after Winter break.

But today's students have a huge demand for their time, including tons of school and other work. This was a week-night game, with school the next day.

Students at Gonzaga are encouraged to embrace a world view; to make a difference in their lives in supporting others everywhere.

Sports are awesome, but IMHO are often over-emphasized, sensationalized by the press, and fans are frequently overly critical of players' performances.

I suggest we all give the students well-deserved appreciation for their positive involvement.

Please consider how weird and inappropriate it is for the students to taunt the visiting team with "air ball" "air ball" when the Zags are ahead by 30, 40 and wow 50 points!

The Gonzaga students are not taught to degrade others, especially when the others are less fortunate. So, in the second half of a game that's a foregone conclusion, it's super tough for the students to maintain their energy and focus to the end, given the above and many more meaningful considerations.

Barf. Is this for real? Do you really think life is so much harder for kids now than it was for the rest of us that sat in those same seats years ago? Give me a break.

bdmiller7
01-21-2020, 08:02 PM
Barf. Is this for real? Do you really think life is so much harder for kids now than it was for the rest of us that sat in those same seats years ago? Give me a break.

The difference in demand on time is we didnt have to spend hours a day on our phones facebooking, twittering, instagramming and what not. We had some extra time to socialize with actual people at sporting events.

TexasZagFan
01-22-2020, 02:14 AM
The difference in demand on time is we didnt have to spend hours a day on our phones facebooking, twittering, instagramming and what not. We had some extra time to socialize with actual people at sporting events.

Demands on time? LOL, I had to take 21 hours a semester 3 out of my last 4 semesters, thanks to changing my major my sophomore year. I also had on average 20 hours a week in ROTC commitments as well.

I wish I had access to today's technology in completing my senior thesis. I could have completed it in 3 weeks, as opposed to the 3-4 months it actually took. I spent hours in the basement of the Crosby Library, searching through the stacks and microfiche. My "word processor" was a typewriter, with two fonts.

Not complaining, though, because my 4 years at GU were among the best of my life. It prepared me well for my first job out of college, 4 years in Germany in the Army.

I wasn't the best student at GU, I enjoyed the "Gonzaga Experience" a bit too much.

zagssuperfan
01-22-2020, 04:38 AM
Demands on time? LOL, I had to take 21 hours a semester 3 out of my last 4 semesters, thanks to changing my major my sophomore year. I also had on average 20 hours a week in ROTC commitments as well.

I wish I had access to today's technology in completing my senior thesis. I could have completed it in 3 weeks, as opposed to the 3-4 months it actually took. I spent hours in the basement of the Crosby Library, searching through the stacks and microfiche. My "word processor" was a typewriter, with two fonts.

Not complaining, though, because my 4 years at GU were among the best of my life. It prepared me well for my first job out of college, 4 years in Germany in the Army.

I wasn't the best student at GU, I enjoyed the "Gonzaga Experience" a bit too much.

Ditto on the ROTC. Plus working multiple jobs to pay my bills, AND because it was impossible for me to get into the classes I needed the first two years(ROTC scheduling only made it harder with the limited number of classes offered) I almost had to transfer to whitworth because I didn't think I would be able to graduate on time. So I had to back load all of my classes Junior and senior year and had to quit working towards the end of school to keep up with everything. But yeah, it's soooo much harder now.

webspinnre
01-22-2020, 07:16 AM
One thing I will note is that Gonzaga has improved academically on a pretty significant level over the past 20-30 years. Not so much as an excuse, but there is at least a little bit to the whole students being busy thing.

ZagSwag
01-22-2020, 07:48 AM
One thing I will note is that Gonzaga has improved academically on a pretty significant level over the past 20-30 years. Not so much as an excuse, but there is at least a little bit to the whole students being busy thing.

As much as we all love Gonzaga and agree the academics have improved, let's not all act like its academic rigors are on par with a Stanford or a Udub for that matter.

And as far as the excuse that kids are needing to work jobs now because schooling is more expensive, let's also remember 50% of the student body are out of state kids (paying higher tuition and coming from wealthier family backgrounds) that chose to come here predominantly because of the basketball program. It goes without saying an out of state kid who didn't grow up supporting the Zags is more likely to leave a game early or not show up for a Portland matchup.

BurgessEraZag
01-22-2020, 09:14 AM
GU is a private school, unlike state schools which differentiate between out of state student and in state. GU students pay the same no matter what state they come from.

ZagSwag
01-22-2020, 09:46 AM
GU is a private school, unlike state schools which differentiate between out of state student and in state. GU students pay the same no matter what state they come from.

You're totally right that's an oversight on my part. $50k/year sure is a pretty penny.

former1dog
01-22-2020, 11:50 AM
Ditto on the ROTC. Plus working multiple jobs to pay my bills, AND because it was impossible for me to get into the classes I needed the first two years(ROTC scheduling only made it harder with the limited number of classes offered) I almost had to transfer to whitworth because I didn't think I would be able to graduate on time. So I had to back load all of my classes Junior and senior year and had to quit working towards the end of school to keep up with everything. But yeah, it's soooo much harder now.
Nothing to do with the topic, but I was a student athlete on an ROTC scholarship at Gonzaga who had to work an off campus job to make ends meet. To this day I’m not sure how I pulled off actually graduating other than it did take some begging on my part to a certain professor who was going to flunk me ��

AirborneJag
01-22-2020, 02:26 PM
I was also on an ROTC scholarship and had those commitments. I also held down a part time job and was married as well. While I do think some of the academic standards have increased rigor at Gonzaga, it would be nothing more than speculation that its “harder” today than it was in the day. Granted, there is a lot more information to learn in a number of disciplines such as engineering and science, but the students come in better prepared. As for the social sciences, I think there has been a general decline in critical thinking skills. Not sure students are challenged as much as perhaps they once were, what with trigger warning, “safe places”, etc.

Oh and by the way, the University of Washington is not academically superior to Gonzaga. That is simply a myth. While some of the entry metrics may be higher, e.g. SAT scores and GPA’s, doesn’t mean the school is better at turning out students with quality educations. And if Gonzaga is academically inferior, why the partnerships with the U of W for medical school and other rigorous academic endeavors.

Grand Valley Zag
01-22-2020, 02:46 PM
Not sure students are challenged as much as perhaps they once were, what with trigger warning, “safe places”, etc.
.

Please do go on . . .

ZagSwag
01-22-2020, 03:38 PM
Oh and by the way, the University of Washington is not academically superior to Gonzaga. That is simply a myth. While some of the entry metrics may be higher, e.g. SAT scores and GPA’s, doesn’t mean the school is better at turning out students with quality educations. And if Gonzaga is academically inferior, why the partnerships with the U of W for medical school and other rigorous academic endeavors.

Can you provide any evidence that is true? University of Washington is a globally ranked research institution with the #2 medical school in the country, you're saying Gonzaga is on par with that?

Chicken Ball
01-22-2020, 04:00 PM
Can you provide any evidence that is true? University of Washington is a globally ranked research institution with the #2 medical school in the country, you're saying Gonzaga is on par with that?

Thereís a lot more that goes into those rankings than rigor in the classroom. Mostly theyíre about dollars spent per student. Iíd bet the average GU student has a more rigorous classroom experience than an average UW student. For one thing, GU undergrads will get much more personal attention (and therefore accountability) than with the UW warehouse-classroom approach. Speaking as a current college professor.

23dpg
01-22-2020, 05:27 PM
Banchero?

sittingon50
01-22-2020, 05:50 PM
Banchero?

Kinda' rings a bell?

zagssuperfan
01-22-2020, 07:50 PM
Banchero?

I felt guilty for a second because it drives me crazy when people derail a thread about a recruit and I thought I was apart of that. But this is not the Banchero thread, there is a whole other thread about him specifically. This is a discussion about the showing/lack of showing of the kennel club during his visit, not Banchero specifically.