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Reborn
11-05-2019, 10:10 PM
Thanks for waiting for me. I recorded the game but can not watch it. I found out I never signed up for DVR. I'm getting old and losing my memory. So sorry. I'll get that fixed by next game. I am really curious how the game went. Please fill me in,

Thanks

Go Zags!!!

Reborn
11-05-2019, 10:31 PM
Gonzaga wins 95-64. Looks like it was a good game,
Kispert led the Zags with 28 points, and was 5-6 from beyond the 3 pt line. So much for Kispert not being able to shoot. Way to go Corey. Way to shut up a lot of back biting fans. Petrusive was next with 15 and Gilder and Timme had 11 each. Watson only scored 7. Ayayi led the team in rebounds with 7 and assists with 7, and with 3 steals. He played 22 minutes and did score 4 points. He did hit a 3 plus one FT. He only shot 1-4.

Zags shot 50% from beyond the 3 pt line. As a team they shot 10-20. Besides Kispert's 5, Gilder made 2, Woolridge 1, Ayayi 1 and Lang 1. For the night they shot 56% from the field but only 63% from the line. Not good. Timme shot 4-6 from the field and 3-4 from the line. Good stats. He played 26 minutes off the bench. He and Ayayi were the two main subs. Few really only played 7 guys until it became "clean-up" time. Overall it looks like a good game. I think I would have liked to have seen more from Petrusive. He shot 5-8 which is good, but only shot one 3 and missed it. The definitely needs Tille.

Go Zags!!!

mgadfly
11-05-2019, 10:43 PM
Gonzaga wins 95-64. Looks like it was a good game,
Kispert led the Zags with 28 points, and was 5-6 from beyond the 3 pt line. So much for Kispert not being able to shoot. Way to go Corey. Way to shut up a lot of back biting fans. Petrusive was next with 15 and Gilder and Timme had 11 each. Watson only scored 7. Ayayi led the team in rebounds with 7 and assists with 7, and with 3 steals. He played 22 minutes and did score 4 points. He did hit a 3 plus one FT. He only shot 1-4.

Zags shot 50% from beyond the 3 pt line. As a team they shot 10-20. Besides Kispert's 5, Gilder made 2, Woolridge 1, Ayayi 1 and Lang 1. For the night they shot 56% from the field but only 63% from the line. Not good. Timme shot 4-6 from the field and 3-4 from the line. Good stats. He played 26 minutes off the bench. He and Ayayi were the two main subs. Few really only played 7 guys until it became "clean-up" time. Overall it looks like a good game. I think I would have liked to have seen more from Petrusive. He shot 5-8 which is good, but only shot one 3 and missed it. The definitely needs Tille.

Go Zags!!!

Petrusev rolled his ankle and went to the locker room for a bit. So the minutes were impacted a little there. I'd have sat him down the rest of the way, but he returned and played pretty well. Hopefully it feels fine in the morning.

I personally thought the team looked really young at times, especially in the first half, but loved the way they ended up going from a single digit lead to up 24 in the blink of an eye.

Positives:
The team has a lot of talent
The guards and bigs moved the ball up the court really fast
Woolridge is fun to watch with his driving and soft finishes
Gilder's dunk - wow!
Kispert - he was really good tonight. He isn't going to lead like some of our past guys have, but he is big and strong and showed quickness like he did early his freshman year. The shooting was there and he made good decisions. It was nice to see him leading the bench after he left the game and having a good time. He is going to lead in his own way, and I think that's fine. I worry about him creating his own shot if other teams key on him after we rely too heavily on him.

Negatives:
We lost focus in the first half like young teams tend to do and went from 17 up to 9 up.
Petrusev rolling his ankle
Depth - it is a 7 man rotation right now, and when Petrusev went down it became a six man rotation. The other guys got in at the end.

After seeing that game (not the end result but the lapse in the first half) I think there will be a lot of learning this season and some will be upset when we drop a game or two to teams that aren't as talented. But I think it is going to be really fun to watch. I love watching Ayayi, he has incredible size and ran the point late in the game. He rebounds for a guard. I still think his upside is really good. Timme and Watson are both fantastic too.

Overall, in my opinion, it was inconsistent at times but with a lot to like. Really different than most seasons with so little returning. Can't wait for Tillie to be back.

Reborn
11-05-2019, 11:54 PM
Petrusev rolled his ankle and went to the locker room for a bit. So the minutes were impacted a little there. I'd have sat him down the rest of the way, but he returned and played pretty well. Hopefully it feels fine in the morning.

I personally thought the team looked really young at times, especially in the first half, but loved the way they ended up going from a single digit lead to up 24 in the blink of an eye.

Positives:
The team has a lot of talent
The guards and bigs moved the ball up the court really fast
Woolridge is fun to watch with his driving and soft finishes
Gilder's dunk - wow!
Kispert - he was really good tonight. He isn't going to lead like some of our past guys have, but he is big and strong and showed quickness like he did early his freshman year. The shooting was there and he made good decisions. It was nice to see him leading the bench after he left the game and having a good time. He is going to lead in his own way, and I think that's fine. I worry about him creating his own shot if other teams key on him after we rely too heavily on him.

Negatives:
We lost focus in the first half like young teams tend to do and went from 17 up to 9 up.
Petrusev rolling his ankle
Depth - it is a 7 man rotation right now, and when Petrusev went down it became a six man rotation. The other guys got in at the end.

After seeing that game (not the end result but the lapse in the first half) I think there will be a lot of learning this season and some will be upset when we drop a game or two to teams that aren't as talented. But I think it is going to be really fun to watch. I love watching Ayayi, he has incredible size and ran the point late in the game. He rebounds for a guard. I still think his upside is really good. Timme and Watson are both fantastic too.

Overall, in my opinion, it was inconsistent at times but with a lot to like. Really different than most seasons with so little returning. Can't wait for Tillie to be back.

Thanks for the report.

GonzagasaurusFlex
11-06-2019, 03:47 AM
My biggest impression from this game was how great it was seeing Kispert shine; he has such a great shooting stroke , strong, athletic yet in past seasons never seemed to put it all together for an entire game..just in spurts. Now he gets to be a #1 or #2 scoring option and so just great to see him kickstart the season by embracing that and performing so well.

Overall, my expectations for this team are trending downward. Only 3 guards now so no room for foul trouble or injury. Gilder didn’t really impact the game as much as I expect him to. Woolridge has great pace and love his drives and floaters, but man that right leg of his just looks off to me...like it’s dangling and he is willing it along for the ride. That sounds weird, I know, but that is the impression I got.

Clearly I’ve been spoiled by the more finely tuned versions of past early season Zag squads. I think this team will lose 3-5 games in the early OOC schedule and face a win WCC tourney or sweat out the bubble type season. More like a top 50 team but not top 10. Sorry, just my thoughts after first game. Hopefully Zags will improve by leaps and bounds and I will look the fool for reacting so negatively after just 1 game.

I hope Watson will be given some minutes at the 2 just to see how he can do there in a pinch and be an insurance player as a little if Woolridge, Gilder or Ayayi get into foul trouble.

FloridaZagFan
11-06-2019, 04:26 AM
You have to be happy with that game. Offensively, who you expected to show up did and then some. Kispert was very agressive as was Pet. Everyone else seemed solid , played within themselves and did what their skill set allows. Free throws were scary and because of that A.St. had a much stronger heartbeat, when in reality they should have been on life support after the first half.
Defensively, i thought the guards were really good at keeping players in front of them and not allowing them to get downhill. Sure there must have been some mistakes because of the wide open 3's but fortunately for us they knocked them down as better teams will do.
Besides the free throws (dreadful) with for new starters and a bech that averaged about 5min of playing time last year you have to be happy. It looks like there is enough talent to maybe get us through some of the growing pains early on. The very best teams go through this every year.

zagnut2012
11-06-2019, 05:28 AM
My thoughts...I liked what I saw from Woolridge, both offense and defense. Guilder's 3 point shot will come as his confidence grows. Ayayi has grown, and I was impressed with his handles. Petrusev and Timme have the skills to give many teams problems down low. Corey had a "Thunder Dan Majerle" game. I love the confidence and aggressive offensive play. As a team, I believe the upside is tremendous. For a first time out is was a great start. Go Zags!

GrizZAG
11-06-2019, 05:37 AM
Nice accurate assessments, thanks.
With a very small look, I think Zakharov has a look of intensity that caught my attention. My gut says this guy is a real sleeper and great things are to come from him. He was very aggressive in the minutes he was in and made one really nice play. Arlauskus looked like me out there and that is not a good look..LOL

Goshzagit
11-06-2019, 05:43 AM
My thoughts...I liked what I saw from Woolridge, both offense and defense. Guilder's 3 point shot will come as his confidence grows. Ayayi has grown, and I was impressed with his handles. Petrusev and Timme have the skills to give many teams problems down low. Corey had a "Thunder Dan Majerle" game. I love the confidence and aggressive offensive play. As a team, I believe the upside is tremendous. For a first time out is was a great start. Go Zags!

Woolridge is a triple double waiting to happen.

Such a spark plug for this team. Can lead a fast break or finish one.

Has quick hands, good handles, quick release, finishes great in traffic, always ready, & nice energy.

Had an all around impact vs MSU, in exhibition, in the game last night. Might be our most important piece right now, which is why I'm concerned about that right leg.

After watching the replay, he avoids that leg at all cost. His euro step was one legged but somehow pulled it off, his drives to the hoop, or fast break finishes were spectacular, yet extra effort to stay off that leg. He had patella fixation this Spring. He currently has screws & wires wrapped around his kneecap.

I just hope it's not something constantly nagging him and/or holding him back.

He has played great, yet would feel awful if hes always playing through pain, discomfort, or less than capable.

Patella hardware often causes discomfort until removed or adjusted, and really hope it's not the case for Ryan.

zagamatic
11-06-2019, 05:43 AM
Not to be lost in all of the post game stuff is the fact that Arlauskas and Zakharov played. Which, unless the rules have changed, means that neither will redshirt barring medical qualifications. Also, the same can be said of Matthew Lang. I'm really happy for him that he hit the last 3 of the game. Especially considering I believe he was the one who went down to injury at the end of Kraziness in the Kennel and had to be helped off the court.

JPtheBeasta
11-06-2019, 05:53 AM
This team doesn't have the high fliers like last year. They are going to have to be tough, fundamentally sound, and take care of the basketball to win at a high level. Josh Perkins is hard to replace, but Woolridge did a fine job and I like his ability to attack the rim. Gilder has a compact stroke and should be a consistent shooter, but I was least impressed by the game he played; at least he got it going at the end, which should help with his confidence. Anton took a bit of a step back but I'm not worried about him. Ayayi is looking like that stat filler I was hoping for in the mold of Dranginis and others. Ayayi has a very consistent, calm stroke from outside and I think he will likely be a pretty good shooter from 3 this year. With Clarke and Rui gone, it is easier for me to see the athletic talent that we have in Tillie. I hope he gets back soon. He will be a real difference maker.

ZagsObserver
11-06-2019, 05:59 AM
It will be fun to watch this team develop. The young blood will certainly mature as the year progresses.

As far as taking a current pulse of the team, I do not believe they are the 8th best team. They might be in the 15-19 range.

GrizZAG
11-06-2019, 06:07 AM
This team doesn't have the high fliers like last year. They are going to have to be tough, fundamentally sound, and take care of the basketball to win at a high level. Josh Perkins is hard to replace, but Woolridge did a fine job and I like his ability to attack the rim. Gilder has a compact stroke and should be a consistent shooter, but I was least impressed by the game he played; at least he got it going at the end, which should help with his confidence. Anton took a bit of a step back but I'm not worried about him. Ayayi is looking like that stat filler I was hoping for in the mold of Dranginis and others. Ayayi has a very consistent, calm stroke from outside and I think he will likely be a pretty good shooter from 3 this year. With Clarke and Rui gone, it is easier for me to see the athletic talent that we have in Tillie. I hope he gets back soon. He will be a real difference maker.

Good assessment. I would add that it is concerning that Ayayi was our top rebounder. We have all these BIG guys that were getting beat on the boards by smaller guys. That needs to be addressed. Also Woolridge's free throw shot is haphazard and not careful, hopefully they work on that too.

FloridaZagFan
11-06-2019, 06:16 AM
Zackarov is going to be a beast and a half as he starts to fill out. Scary to think about he and Ballo next year! Tremendous upside!

Zagdawg
11-06-2019, 06:34 AM
Liked that Tillie was out shooting in warmups --- hitting 3's like old times.

SorenTodd45
11-06-2019, 06:36 AM
Reborn, the game is available to watch on the WCC website, in the "on demand" section. I plan on watching parts of it again later today.

RenoZag
11-06-2019, 07:04 AM
From John Blanchette:

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/nov/05/john-blanchette-gonzagas-quiet-cast-must-learn-to-/


But of all the teaching that must be one with a largely untested cast, communication might be job one.

“The hardest thing for us, quite frankly, is getting these guys to talk,” Few acknowledged, “and just talking to some of my buddies in the profession, it’s almost a generational thing.

“They’re just quiet, and it’s hard to even get them to call out ball screens so they don’t get their heads taken off. And we switch our coverages a lot, so it’s really important.”

This was driven home frequently against the Hornets, a game Southwestern Athletic Conference outfit and mostly unremarkable, except perhaps for an ability to shoot the ball spectacularly when open. Which they were often enough, notably when the Zags doubled the post and were unable to recover.

zag67
11-06-2019, 07:15 AM
I also believe that Kispert and Ayayi had great games. Kispert shot super from the outside but his attacking the basket really impressed me. He had a good defensive game. Ayayi plays great defense,rebounds well and moved the ball. Yes we will have some downsize games but I think we will be there in the end. Tillies return is only going to make them solid all around. Good passer, rebounder and defender.

JPtheBeasta
11-06-2019, 07:16 AM
Not to be lost in all of the post game stuff is the fact that Arlauskas and Zakharov played. Which, unless the rules have changed, means that neither will redshirt barring medical qualifications. Also, the same can be said of Matthew Lang. I'm really happy for him that he hit the last 3 of the game. Especially considering I believe he was the one who went down to injury at the end of Kraziness in the Kennel and had to be helped off the court.

Few had a long conversation with the other coach in the handshake line. I imagined the conversation going something like, “Sorry for the 3 at the end, but tacos...”

Zagger
11-06-2019, 07:18 AM
Good assessment. I would add that it is concerning that Ayayi was our top rebounder. We have all these BIG guys that were getting beat on the boards by smaller guys. That needs to be addressed. Also Woolridge's free throw shot is haphazard and not careful, hopefully they work on that too.

Ayayi seems to have arms/hands that can immediately extend and contract. Kinda like lizard tongues. There was stuff I don't know how else he grabbed them. He's got a great 6th sense for where the ball's going. At least he did last night. He put on a display of really nice ball handling. The kid's quick.

webspinnre
11-06-2019, 07:55 AM
Few had a long conversation with the other coach in the handshake line. I imagined the conversation going something like, “Sorry for the 3 at the end, but tacos...”

:roll: For real. It was hilarious hearing the applause with that last 3.

FlyZag
11-06-2019, 08:14 AM
My takeaway: Great start for a young / new team. We knew there would be growing pains. Defense was not quite where this team wants to be. Understandable being so young. Also, FT shooting will be our achilles heel. Our starting PG shoots FTs worse than Karnowski. That can't bode well for end of game situations. I believe Few will have a plan to appropriately sub for those end of game situations to keep the ball in the propper hands.. but. It could bite us. Hopefully every game will be a 30 point margin and it won't matter.

On the good side: I loved the way CK led the team. He was vocal and his body language told me he was the leader of this young team. Good to see someone taking charge. He has a lot of experience starting on teams that went deep into the tournament. I trust him to lead these men on the court. I think Ayayi was spectacular. What a jump from last year. He led the team in rebounds (7). Crazy for a kid coming off the bench playing the guard position and given our size advantage up front. He shot amazingly well. I felt he just played outstanding overall. Petrusev missed some shots but I really liked the way he kept battling and the way he was aggressive.

I found it interesting that we didn't play any (that I can remember) of the 1-2-2 press that was so effective against LCSC. Maybe we did play it and it just wasn't getting the results so it's not sticking in my mind. I'll have to rewatch the game.

Birddog
11-06-2019, 08:16 AM
Heister said he thought it was Lang's first ever appearance but I'm almost positive he dropped a trey on the Pilots in Portland last season. His family and friends all had pre-made signs.

LongIslandZagFan
11-06-2019, 08:20 AM
Heister said he thought it was Lang's first ever appearance but I'm almost positive he dropped a trey on the Pilots in Portland last season. His family and friends all had pre-made signs.

Most definitely played versus Portland last year.

CPkZagFan
11-06-2019, 08:24 AM
I am a big fan of who Kispert is on and off the court so it was great to see him play such a great game last night. Although we did not look like a #8 team last night, keep in mind that our best player, Tillie, was not even on the floor. When he gets into the rotation, things will look much better. With the ability for Killie and Kispert and hopefully Gilder to spread the floor with 3 point shooting, it will open up the for our bigs down low and our guards cutting to the basket. I was very impressed with Timme's ball handling skills. One possession after a rebound, he brought the ball up court. I do not think we will have to hold our breath for an at-large bid in case we did not win the tourney.

However, I want to say this now before multiple wins open a few eyes, don't sleep on Santa Clara. They have five players listed at 6-9 or above, they have 3 freshman that will surprise and DJ Mitchell from Wake Forest is now eligible. He is 6-8 and shoots from all 3 spots and is quick. I would not be surprised to see them as a major contender in WCC. St Mary's beat Wisconsin but Jordan Ford had to play every minute, including 5 mins in overtime. Menzies played a total of 1 min.. Except for their starting 5, they are pretty thin. BYU is so short handed at the post, they need to light it up from 3 but that remains to be seen. Pepperdine let Cal shoot 70% and lost by double digits.

FuManShoes
11-06-2019, 08:27 AM
Nice accurate assessments, thanks.
With a very small look, I think Zakharov has a look of intensity that caught my attention. My gut says this guy is a real sleeper and great things are to come from him. He was very aggressive in the minutes he was in and made one really nice play. Arlauskus looked like me out there and that is not a good look..LOL

He also appears to have a really solid base that’s usually lacking in freshman bigs. Could speed his development.

FloridaZagFan
11-06-2019, 08:41 AM
I am a big fan of who Kispert is on and off the court so it was great to see him play such a great game last night. Although we did not look like a #8 team last night, keep in mind that our best player, Tillie, was not even on the floor. When he gets into the rotation, things will look much better. With the ability for Killie and Kispert and hopefully Gilder to spread the floor with 3 point shooting, it will open up the for our bigs down low and our guards cutting to the basket. I was very impressed with Timme's ball handling skills. One possession after a rebound, he brought the ball up court. I do not think we will have to hold our breath for an at-large bid in case we did not win the tourney.

However, I want to say this now before multiple wins open a few eyes, don't sleep on Santa Clara. They have five players listed at 6-9 or above, they have 3 freshman that will surprise and DJ Mitchell from Wake Forest is now eligible. He is 6-8 and shoots from all 3 spots and is quick. I would not be surprised to see them as a major contender in WCC. St Mary's beat Wisconsin but Jordan Ford had to play every minute, including 5 mins in overtime. Menzies played a total of 1 min.. Except for their starting 5, they are pretty thin. BYU is so short handed at the post, they need to light it up from 3 but that remains to be seen. Pepperdine let Cal shoot 70% and lost by double digits.
Santa Clara definitely not helpless. The had a tall but thin Italian kid who looked pretty skilled last year as a freshman.

LongIslandZagFan
11-06-2019, 08:43 AM
The defense really needs to tighten up quite a bit. I really thought they would have come out stronger on the defensive end in the second half... but alas... ASU shot nearly 50%. More distressing is the nearly 55% 3 pt shooting in the second half.

Some of that is youth, some is first game sloppiness. Really hope Few gets them dialed in on the defensive side next game.

Offensively, I was quite happy. I mean, a bunch of missed bunnies, but that is just an issue of shaking a bit of rust out. That being said, Filip has some really great post moves as does Timme. I really like that rotation of Timme and Petrusev... similar skill sets but different types of motors and good way to keep teams off balance. When Tillie is back, this team will be a tough matchup for most teams. Corey is showing flashes of brilliance... his name just might start showing up on a few lists by the end of the season. CK is definitely ready to be the team leader.

Bouldin4Prez
11-06-2019, 09:04 AM
Timme looked like the game was moving way too fast for him last night. Hope he gets up to speed as he gets a few more games under his belt, we need some of his playmaking.

Mantua
11-06-2019, 09:13 AM
He also appears to have a really solid base that’s usually lacking in freshman bigs. Could speed his development.

I hope he gets enough minutes. He looks very strong.

Shanachie
11-06-2019, 09:42 AM
Heister said he thought it was Lang's first ever appearance but I'm almost positive he dropped a trey on the Pilots in Portland last season. His family and friends all had pre-made signs.

I believe he also hit the taco-clinching shot in the New Year's Eve game at home last year.

Vanzagger
11-06-2019, 10:05 AM
Great analysis!

RenoZag
11-06-2019, 10:22 AM
However, I want to say this now before multiple wins open a few eyes, don't sleep on Santa Clara. They have five players listed at 6-9 or above, they have 3 freshman that will surprise and DJ Mitchell from Wake Forest is now eligible. He is 6-8 and shoots from all 3 spots and is quick. I would not be surprised to see them as a major contender in WCC. St Mary's beat Wisconsin but Jordan Ford had to play every minute, including 5 mins in overtime. Menzies played a total of 1 min.. Except for their starting 5, they are pretty thin. BYU is so short handed at the post, they need to light it up from 3 but that remains to be seen. Pepperdine let Cal shoot 70% and lost by double digits.

SCU's bench had 47 of their 97 points last night vs. the Banana Slugs. Mitchell with 18 pts, 7 boards.

LMU might be a better "sleeper" than Pepperdine; we'll see if they can knock down three's against better foes as the OOC schedule moves along. Last night they went 12 - 18 on the way to putting up 105 points vs. NAIA Westcliff.

FWIW: Very happy to have college hoops back. Great distraction from the day after day "news." I think the WCC will be a better conference to follow this season.

zagzilla
11-06-2019, 10:27 AM
Great posts already.

Several other things....

1. Kispert's rim rattling dunks were a nice surprise. If he can hit from deep and also play above the rim, he is going to have a great season. The sophomore to junior year leap is something we have seem from other 4 year players and Corey seems like the latest to do so.
2. Timme doesn't look that athletic but that is deceptive. His spin moves to the baseline needed more lift as 2-3 of his layups didn't get above the rim and should have either been dunks or makes. He is raw but I liked what I saw.
3. In garbage time it was tough to tell much about Zakharov and Arlauskas but it appears neither will redshirt which is a minor surprise to me. Both looked like they are behind the rest of the group developmentally.
4. Filip's footwork is much better and he seems stronger with his hands on the ball than last time we saw him
5. Our guards look shaky at the stripe which is a concern if the trend continues. We have gotten used to our guards being nearly automatic when shooting FT's
6. Ballo is huge. Seeing him standing next to Tillie and Filip during timeouts, he just looks bigger. He must be a load in practice. Hard to believe he is 17. Can't wait to see him next season.

Great win Zags. So excited for the season to be here at last.

ZZ

GonzaGAW
11-06-2019, 10:52 AM
- saw the same as most, defense not so good, woolridge looks smooth, one game in and ayayi looks to be more than capable to be the 3rd guard.

- I think f.t. will be an issue, our 3 guards historically as simply okay to below average at the free throw line. hopefully most of our fouls will come from our big men who have a stronger track record at the line.

- thin at guard, this is going to be a recurring theme I can see..........but let's not forget last year we went with a 3 guard rotation all year long. ayayi and foster only saw playing time at mop up time last year.
- that is not to say it would be great to have a fourth strong contributor, but currently we have arluaskas listed as a guard and walk on lang as our mop up guards. I'd like to see arlauskas get as many minutes as possible at the 2 spot.

CPkZagFan
11-06-2019, 11:14 AM
SCU's bench had 47 of their 97 points last night vs. the Banana Slugs. Mitchell with 18 pts, 7 boards.

LMU might be a better "sleeper" than Pepperdine; we'll see if they can knock down three's against better foes as the OOC schedule moves along. Last night they went 12 - 18 on the way to putting up 105 points vs. NAIA Westcliff.

FWIW: Very happy to have college hoops back. Great distraction from the day after day "news." I think the WCC will be a better conference to follow this season.


Thanks for a great reply. Even in this age of "political correctness", why would any school name their team the Banana Slugs? It is a California school however, that might explain it.

gon2mt
11-06-2019, 11:37 AM
I thought Ayayi was so smooth, under control, and his size is impressive in rebounding and defense. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets more and more minutes as the season goes along. Petrusev is much improved both offensively and defensively. He still needs to body up more on defense down low. I thought he was a little more tentative after the ankle sprain in the second half which is understandable. It was nice seeing Zakharov and Arlauskas. I thought they looked pretty good and might be pretty important if the Zags get in foul trouble. One random comment about the announcers. Heister at one point had to my thinking an inappropriate comment in talking with Fox about music and Alabama State alumni.

sonuvazag
11-06-2019, 11:42 AM
Thanks for a great reply. Even in this age of "political correctness", why would any school name their team the Banana Slugs? It is a California school however, that might explain it.
It is the preeminent pot-smoking hippie granola school in California, and their brand was memorialized by Quentin Tarantino in Pulp Fiction.

http://filmgarb.com/wp-content/uploads/film-pulp_fiction-1994-vincent_vega-john_travolta-tshirts-uc_santa_cruz_banana_slugs_shirt-595x335.jpg

FlyZag
11-06-2019, 11:51 AM
It is the preeminent pot-smoking hippie granola school in California, and their brand was memorialized by Quentin Tarantino in Pulp Fiction.

http://filmgarb.com/wp-content/uploads/film-pulp_fiction-1994-vincent_vega-john_travolta-tshirts-uc_santa_cruz_banana_slugs_shirt-595x335.jpg

It's a beautiful campus. In the hills of Santa cruz right on the Monterey bay.

sonuvazag
11-06-2019, 11:59 AM
It's a beautiful campus. In the hills of Santa cruz right on the Monterey bay.
Agreed.

billyberu
11-06-2019, 12:03 PM
From John Blanchette:

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/nov/05/john-blanchette-gonzagas-quiet-cast-must-learn-to-/

Rarely has it been said that they can walk the walk, but not talk the talk.

zagamatic
11-06-2019, 12:11 PM
For those who are concerned about free throw percentages right now, ask yourself how much emphasis is being put on free throws in practice right now considering how much this year's Zags need to learn the coaching concepts and gel with respect to the level of the opponents in the last few days? I'm not worried about free throw percentage until at least the A & M game, realistically the Atlantis tournament.
Also, with respect to Ayayi, he swooped in and grabbed at least a few rebounds that should have gone to the bigs who were blocking out . Can't fault Ayayi for the hustle.

zagzilla
11-06-2019, 12:28 PM
Ayayi looks like a plus rebounder. Much like Norvell last year who rebounded his position better than most 2's.

ZZ

Goshzagit
11-06-2019, 12:51 PM
Ayayi looks like a plus rebounder. Much like Norvell last year who rebounded his position better than most 2's.

ZZ

That's one type of player we could use this year.

Talkative, vocal, energetic on sidelines and in practice.

Not a woulda coulda shoulda post about Norvell, rather about these guys filling the void he left behind.

A guy who talks, not afraid to say and do what the team needs.

Coach Few keeps saying, "this team is too quiet, they need to talk, be more vocal on and off the court".

They say Drew Timme is that one guy, but hes still so young/new/inexperienced.

scrooner
11-06-2019, 12:57 PM
Zags free throw percentage in the first game vs their season average:

2014-15 0.650 0.691
2015-16 0.647 0.758
2016-17 0.600 0.717
2017-18 0.565 0.708
2018-19 0.692 0.761
2019-20 0.630

TheBunnieRancher
11-06-2019, 01:02 PM
Lang is a redshirt sophomore. He took his redshirt year last year which is why Heister thinks he is a newbie this year. He did hit a three pointer in Portland in front of family and friends his freshman year. He only played in maybe 8 games and scored like 6 points.

ProVeeZag
11-06-2019, 01:05 PM
Corey had a "Thunder Dan Majerle" game. Great analogy...!!

SageOfZagville
11-06-2019, 01:21 PM
Did you notice how long it took Heister and Fox to notice Petrusev was back in the game. I saw him at the scorers table and said cool, it must not have been to bad. Then he was in the game for at least a minute before they said anything. Heisters powers of observation are legendary .

ProVeeZag
11-06-2019, 01:43 PM
Yes I did notice. On the plus side, having just Heister with Fox opened up the mics a bit. I did not hear, was Dichau assigned to another game last night? Anyhow, I did not miss him!

SLOZag
11-06-2019, 01:55 PM
Thanks for a great reply. Even in this age of "political correctness", why would any school name their team the Banana Slugs? It is a California school however, that might explain it.

Yup, those California folks sure are wacky. Why do they resist the good-old-fashioned, traditional, manly, not-weird mascots that are so popular around the rest of the country ... like the Syracuse Orange (First adopted in 2004, after the term "Orangemen" -- so-named because of their dominant uniform color -- was abandoned. But the uniform colors did not change.), the Dartmouth Big Green (when they got rid of "The Indians" as a mascot the unofficial mascot became not a character named Greenman nor Greenie, but a beer keg named ... Keggy), The Richmond Spiders (the only spiders in Division 1), the Arkansas Boll Weevils (a 6mm long insect that reportedly terrified cotton plantation owners), the Virginia Tech Hokies (it's sort of a turkey), the Wichita State Wheat Shockers (No relation to something shocking, a "wheat shocker" in agricultural parlance is a wheat harvester. His harvested wheat bundle is apparently called a wheat shock.), the Williams College Ephs (Short for Ephraims, but the mascot looks less like an Ephraim than a purple cow.), the Saint Louis University Billikens (A charm doll created decades ago by Florence Pretz of Kansas City, Missouri, who is said to have created it after seeing the mysterious figure in a dream.), the Ohio State Buckeyes (It's a local nut.), the Evergreen State Geoducks (It's a local mollusk.), the Delta State Fighting Okra (Is it a local MMA vegetable?), the Campbell University Fighting Camels (Is it a local MMA dromedary?), the Akron Zips (Shorthand for zippers.), and the Nebraska Cornhuskers (its ... someone who prepares corn for a meal?)?.

My personal favorite good-old-fashioned, traditional, manly, not-weird mascots are found at the Rhode Island School of Design. "As might be considered fitting for an arts school [that has been around for 142 years], the symbolism [i.e. mascoting, or "team naming"] used for the [RISD] teams is unique. The hockey team is called the "Nads", and their cheer is "Go Nads!" ... The basketball team is known simply as the "Balls", and their slogan is, "When the heat is on, the Balls stick together.""
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhode_Island_School_of_Design

So in conclusion, CPkZagFan, I agree -- if you want to take a swipe at a state because you find a unique school mascot name there, then you certainly can choose California for your target. And if you, CPkZagFan, are in fact a grad of the Rhode Island School of Design, that might help to explain your choice!

ps: If you're wondering which is the least unique choice of mascot, “Bulldogs” is the most frequently used nickname/mascot in NCAA Division One athletics." -- 14 teams use it at last count.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/650132-college-football-the-18-most-frequently-used-mascot-names-in-ncaa-division-one#slide18

jazzdelmar
11-06-2019, 02:19 PM
Best fight song ever. Norfolk. We don’t drink, we don’t smoke, norrrrrrrrr-folk.




Yup, those California folks sure are wacky. Why do they resist the good-old-fashioned, traditional, manly, not-weird mascots that are so popular around the rest of the country ... like the Syracuse Orange (First adopted in 2004, after the term "Orangemen" -- so-named because of their dominant uniform color -- was abandoned. But the uniform colors did not change.), the Dartmouth Big Green (when they got rid of "The Indians" as a mascot the unofficial mascot became not a character named Greenman nor Greenie, but a beer keg named ... Keggy), The Richmond Spiders (the only spiders in Division 1), the Arkansas Boll Weevils (a 6mm long insect that reportedly terrified cotton plantation owners), the Virginia Tech Hokies (it's sort of a turkey), the Wichita State Wheat Shockers (No relation to something shocking, a "wheat shocker" in agricultural parlance is a wheat harvester. His harvested wheat bundle is apparently called a wheat shock.), the Williams College Ephs (Short for Ephraims, but the mascot looks less like an Ephraim than a purple cow.), the Saint Louis University Billikens (A charm doll created decades ago by Florence Pretz of Kansas City, Missouri, who is said to have created it after seeing the mysterious figure in a dream.), the Ohio State Buckeyes (It's a local nut.), the Evergreen State Geoducks (It's a local mollusk.), the Delta State Fighting Okra (Is it a local MMA vegetable?), the Campbell University Fighting Camels (Is it a local MMA dromedary?), the Akron Zips (Shorthand for zippers.), and the Nebraska Cornhuskers (its ... someone who prepares corn for a meal?)?.

My personal favorite good-old-fashioned, traditional, manly, not-weird mascots are found at the Rhode Island School of Design. "As might be considered fitting for an arts school [that has been around for 142 years], the symbolism [i.e. mascoting, or "team naming"] used for the [RISD] teams is unique. The hockey team is called the "Nads", and their cheer is "Go Nads!" ... The basketball team is known simply as the "Balls", and their slogan is, "When the heat is on, the Balls stick together.""
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhode_Island_School_of_Design

So in conclusion, CPkZagFan, I agree -- if you want to take a swipe at a state because you find a unique school mascot name there, then you certainly can choose California for your target. And if you, CPkZagFan, are in fact a grad of the Rhode Island School of Design, that might help to explain your choice!

ps: If you're wondering which is the least unique choice of mascot, “Bulldogs” is the most frequently used nickname/mascot in NCAA Division One athletics." -- 14 teams use it at last count.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/650132-college-football-the-18-most-frequently-used-mascot-names-in-ncaa-division-one#slide18

scrooner
11-06-2019, 02:24 PM
Missionaries, Missionaries, we're on top!

Note: Whitman is now the Blues, not the Missionaries.

gon2mt
11-06-2019, 02:29 PM
Went to UC Irvine long time ago. At that time it was a brand new school and wanted to get in on the we're different idea. Mascot the Anteater and the rallying cry ZOT!!!

zagnut2012
11-06-2019, 03:17 PM
Yup, those California folks sure are wacky. Why do they resist the good-old-fashioned, traditional, manly, not-weird mascots that are so popular around the rest of the country ... like the Syracuse Orange (First adopted in 2004, after the term "Orangemen" -- so-named because of their dominant uniform color -- was abandoned. But the uniform colors did not change.), the Dartmouth Big Green (when they got rid of "The Indians" as a mascot the unofficial mascot became not a character named Greenman nor Greenie, but a beer keg named ... Keggy), The Richmond Spiders (the only spiders in Division 1), the Arkansas Boll Weevils (a 6mm long insect that reportedly terrified cotton plantation owners), the Virginia Tech Hokies (it's sort of a turkey), the Wichita State Wheat Shockers (No relation to something shocking, a "wheat shocker" in agricultural parlance is a wheat harvester. His harvested wheat bundle is apparently called a wheat shock.), the Williams College Ephs (Short for Ephraims, but the mascot looks less like an Ephraim than a purple cow.), the Saint Louis University Billikens (A charm doll created decades ago by Florence Pretz of Kansas City, Missouri, who is said to have created it after seeing the mysterious figure in a dream.), the Ohio State Buckeyes (It's a local nut.), the Evergreen State Geoducks (It's a local mollusk.), the Delta State Fighting Okra (Is it a local MMA vegetable?), the Campbell University Fighting Camels (Is it a local MMA dromedary?), the Akron Zips (Shorthand for zippers.), and the Nebraska Cornhuskers (its ... someone who prepares corn for a meal?)?.

My personal favorite good-old-fashioned, traditional, manly, not-weird mascots are found at the Rhode Island School of Design. "As might be considered fitting for an arts school [that has been around for 142 years], the symbolism [i.e. mascoting, or "team naming"] used for the [RISD] teams is unique. The hockey team is called the "Nads", and their cheer is "Go Nads!" ... The basketball team is known simply as the "Balls", and their slogan is, "When the heat is on, the Balls stick together.""
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhode_Island_School_of_Design

So in conclusion, CPkZagFan, I agree -- if you want to take a swipe at a state because you find a unique school mascot name there, then you certainly can choose California for your target. And if you, CPkZagFan, are in fact a grad of the Rhode Island School of Design, that might help to explain your choice!

ps: If you're wondering which is the least unique choice of mascot, “Bulldogs” is the most frequently used nickname/mascot in NCAA Division One athletics." -- 14 teams use it at last count.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/650132-college-football-the-18-most-frequently-used-mascot-names-in-ncaa-division-one#slide18

This made me laugh....:roll:....Awesome post...:clap:

Section 116
11-06-2019, 04:02 PM
Brian Michaelson said on post game radio last evening rebounding and the failure to close out on the threes were his early takeaway from the game. He mentioned Few's second half timeout to clean up the the three point shooting but as game stats indicated there is work to do. Part of this is not communicating and there is a link to John Blanchette's column elsewhere here addressing that issue. Michaelson also noted now that the season has officially started there are nine games to be played in the month of November, including opponents much better than Alabama St. I haven't checked but Michaelson said even North Dakota could present some serious problems as they have a lot back (this could be coach speak, I have not checked) In any event Michaelson said the youngsters are going to have to grow up in a hurry.

RenoZag
11-06-2019, 04:22 PM
Yes I did notice. On the plus side, having just Heister with Fox opened up the mics a bit. I did not hear, was Dichau assigned to another game last night? Anyhow, I did not miss him!

Dan D. was doing color for CBSSN on the UNR vs. Utah game.