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GLJake
05-20-2019, 06:26 PM
One can hope that one of the other connected recruiting board members will pick up the flag and soldier on.

JPtheBeasta
05-20-2019, 06:49 PM
One can hope that one of the other connected recruiting board members will pick up the flag and soldier on.

And for the time being, it will be The “Stuff I Saw in Twitter” Box

webspinnre
05-20-2019, 08:49 PM
Give it some time - sounds like Caldwell may return at some point, and maybe the board admins can come up with someone else to moderate so that all he has to do is provide awesome information.

MDABE80
05-20-2019, 08:50 PM
Where’d he go?

willandi
05-20-2019, 08:58 PM
Where’d he go?

Taking a hiatus because of the bickering and off topic snark.

zagfan1
05-20-2019, 10:00 PM
One can hope that one of the other connected recruiting board members will pick up the flag and soldier on.

It’s the quiet before the storm. Next week we should hear some news.

MDABE80
05-20-2019, 10:23 PM
Somebody besides him is missing. He did a Good job. Hope we get him back.

GonzagasaurusFlex
05-21-2019, 02:21 AM
It’s the quiet before the storm. Next week we should hear some news.

Why next week? At this point, I assume no new news until after NBA draft.

jazzdelmar
05-21-2019, 04:01 AM
Maybe Caldy and Suggsy will emerge, signed and sealed, at the same time......

strikenowhere
05-21-2019, 04:49 AM
Maybe Caldy and Suggsy will emerge, signed and sealed, at the same time......

Fingers crossed

Bogozags
05-21-2019, 06:39 AM
Jazz, I hope for his sake, he isn't reading anything on this site...

EEzag
05-21-2019, 07:42 AM
Jazz, I hope for his sake, he isn't reading anything on this site...

I would like to see a Caldwell only topic where it is only posts from Caldwell. Really, that's why a lot of us are here and would be nice not to have to swim through the rest. No moderating needed.

zagssuperfan
05-21-2019, 09:06 AM
I would like to see a Caldwell only topic where it is only posts from Caldwell. Really, that's why a lot of us are here and would be nice not to have to swim through the rest. No moderating needed.

+1. Then we don't have to worry about the arguing.

strikenowhere
05-21-2019, 09:16 AM
I would like to see a Caldwell only topic where it is only posts from Caldwell. Really, that's why a lot of us are here and would be nice not to have to swim through the rest. No moderating needed.

Of course that won't stop other people from arguing about whatever he posts in a separate thread, but the idea is nice - I miss seeing all the recruiting nuggets that he was providing!

willandi
05-21-2019, 09:40 AM
There are many to point fingers at and I am sure that some have been pointed at me, but just to remind folks, no matter how good your intentions are, it takes two (or more) to participate in an argument.

sittingon50
05-21-2019, 10:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk-kQSz-Qv0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzd8utz2tts

NotoriousZ
05-21-2019, 10:43 AM
I would serve as an admin but I’d have a very short leash for the annoying posters here. We’re talking a Few on Arop leash.

doctorzag
05-21-2019, 12:19 PM
Somebody besides him is missing. He did a Good job. Hope we get him back.

I hope we get both of them back. Spy added a lot of flavor to the board.

Mr Vulture
05-21-2019, 02:43 PM
I would like to see a Caldwell only topic where it is only posts from Caldwell. Really, that's why a lot of us are here and would be nice not to have to swim through the rest. No moderating needed.

They could call it Caldwell's Corner. Whenever there was a new thread or post it would be must read information! :cheers:

willandi
05-21-2019, 02:47 PM
I would serve as an admin but I’d have a very short leash for the annoying posters here. We’re talking a Few on Arop leash.

This would be the reason that you would not be a good mod.

If you can't handle annoying posters, that is YOUR problem. It is when it goes beyond annoying that action needs to be taken, and slowly, MODerately at first.

Ladyzag12
05-21-2019, 03:39 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/JsW80l8iGJc9NDcEGy/giphy.gif

zagmeister
05-21-2019, 04:43 PM
After reading this Forum for about a decade, this is my very first post. I decided to post in this thread because I believe that I can relate to Caldwell's frustration and why he left... I would do the same. But the #1 reason I signed up is so I could use the "Ignore" feature to block those who I feel are way too negative and dysfunctional... so far I only have 3 on my list, because IMHO they are way beyond annoying. They too frequently bring super BAD to this amazing Forum for Gonzaga basketball and the GOOD it has brought us fans for many years. Go Zags!

TexasZagFan
05-22-2019, 03:47 AM
After reading this Forum for about a decade, this is my very first post. I decided to post in this thread because I believe that I can relate to Caldwell's frustration and why he left... I would do the same. But the #1 reason I signed up is so I could use the "Ignore" feature to block those who I feel are way too negative and dysfunctional... so far I only have 3 on my list, because IMHO they are way beyond annoying. They too frequently bring super BAD to this amazing Forum for Gonzaga basketball and the GOOD it has brought us fans for many years. Go Zags!

Wilkommen, Herr ZagMeister!

Allow me to offer my solution to those obsessed with being "objective", to the point where it's obvious that objectivity requires pointing out the shortcomings of our players.

Take a few days out of your summer, and put your son, nephew, grandson in a Zag hoops camp. If they're old enough, let them be full time campers for the camp. I had the best of both worlds, as my then 15 YO son was a camper...he had a few days respite from Mom and Dad, while our 6 YO grandson had a few days alone with Nana and Opa.

He had a pretty good time with us, as he's gotten used to Opa's predilection to searching out his next favorite winery. He is outgoing and a knack for making new friends.

What you will find with these camps is the unbelievable accessibility to the players there for the summer. They volunteer their time at these camps, and make themselves available for pictures, autographs, and friendly conversations. Corey took time out from his evening workout to give personal instruction to my grandson. Josh played my son in a game of one on one, and Jesse Wade's brother invited Big D to join him on the court while the Wade family was shooting hoops.

For me, it was all capped off by seeing Eric McClellan shooting free throws at about 10 PM, long after the campers had departed for the day. We had a brief but friendly conversation. He told me he was back at GU for personal reasons, and to "get his head right." As one who had not been on campus for 16 years, I completely understood his point of view.

We weren't even close to winning a mythical award for campers who traveled the farthest, and we drove up from Texas. My DFW alumni chapter shirt drew a few remarks, but there were kids from the East Coast, and I heard there were a few foreigners in attendance.


I try not to wear rose colored glasses, and I admit my objectivity may be a bit clouded. However, spend a few days around them, and see if it doesn't change your attitude about the Zag way of doing things, and how we're members of an ever growing Zag family.


Then, when all else fails, feel free to employ the Ignore feature on those who just can't get the message. :lmao:

jazzdelmar
05-22-2019, 05:00 AM
This belong here?

Top 10 prep star Jaden McDaniels picks ... Washington

Jaden McDaniels was never your typical high school basketball superstar, and his recruitment was not your typical recruitment. There was never going to be a grand announcement live on ESPN, picking from a row of hats on a table while America waited breathlessly.

Instead, with no hint or warning, McDaniels quietly posted a picture on social media Tuesday at 10:03 p.m. of him in a purple Washington jersey with the message: “I’m staying home.” That’s it.

McDaniels’ other four finalists, named back in September, were Kentucky, UCLA, Texas and San Diego State – where his older brother, Jalen, spent three years before turning pro earlier this spring. UCLA, Texas and SDSU essentially stopped recruiting him weeks ago, according to several sources, leaving Kentucky and Washington to battle for the 6-foot-10 McDonald’s all-American from the Seattle suburb of Federal Way.

At Washington, McDaniels will join fellow top 10 prep prospect Isaiah Stewart, a 6-9, 245-pound power forward, and four-star guard RaeQuan Battle. The Huskies also will add Kentucky transfer guard Quade Green.

Bogozags
05-22-2019, 07:03 AM
Wilkommen, Herr ZagMeister!

Allow me to offer my solution to those obsessed with being "objective", to the point where it's obvious that objectivity requires pointing out the shortcomings of our players.

Take a few days out of your summer, and put your son, nephew, grandson in a Zag hoops camp. If they're old enough, let them be full time campers for the camp. I had the best of both worlds, as my then 15 YO son was a camper...he had a few days respite from Mom and Dad, while our 6 YO grandson had a few days alone with Nana and Opa.

He had a pretty good time with us, as he's gotten used to Opa's predilection to searching out his next favorite winery. He is outgoing and a knack for making new friends.

What you will find with these camps is the unbelievable accessibility to the players there for the summer. They volunteer their time at these camps, and make themselves available for pictures, autographs, and friendly conversations. Corey took time out from his evening workout to give personal instruction to my grandson. Josh played my son in a game of one on one, and Jesse Wade's brother invited Big D to join him on the court while the Wade family was shooting hoops.

For me, it was all capped off by seeing Eric McClellan shooting free throws at about 10 PM, long after the campers had departed for the day. We had a brief but friendly conversation. He told me he was back at GU for personal reasons, and to "get his head right." As one who had not been on campus for 16 years, I completely understood his point of view.

We weren't even close to winning a mythical award for campers who traveled the farthest, and we drove up from Texas. My DFW alumni chapter shirt drew a few remarks, but there were kids from the East Coast, and I heard there were a few foreigners in attendance.


I try not to wear rose colored glasses, and I admit my objectivity may be a bit clouded. However, spend a few days around them, and see if it doesn't change your attitude about the Zag way of doing things, and how we're members of an ever growing Zag family.


Then, when all else fails, feel free to employ the Ignore feature on those who just can't get the message. :lmao:


TZF another excellent post in helping us keep our perspective about those that play for GU...it is a special place, with special people and I envy you and others that were able to be educated at GU and are willing to share their experiences, WHICH imo allows us to feel "closer" to the players and the school itself...THANKS!

JPtheBeasta
05-22-2019, 08:33 AM
After reading this Forum for about a decade, this is my very first post. I decided to post in this thread because I believe that I can relate to Caldwell's frustration and why he left... I would do the same. But the #1 reason I signed up is so I could use the "Ignore" feature to block those who I feel are way too negative and dysfunctional... so far I only have 3 on my list, because IMHO they are way beyond annoying. They too frequently bring super BAD to this amazing Forum for Gonzaga basketball and the GOOD it has brought us fans for many years. Go Zags!

Thanks for taking the time to post your perspective— assuming I’m not on your ignore list :)

MDABE80
05-22-2019, 08:56 AM
This belong here?

Top 10 prep star Jaden McDaniels picks ... Washington

Jaden McDaniels was never your typical high school basketball superstar, and his recruitment was not your typical recruitment. There was never going to be a grand announcement live on ESPN, picking from a row of hats on a table while America waited breathlessly.

Instead, with no hint or warning, McDaniels quietly posted a picture on social media Tuesday at 10:03 p.m. of him in a purple Washington jersey with the message: “I’m staying home.” That’s it.

McDaniels’ other four finalists, named back in September, were Kentucky, UCLA, Texas and San Diego State – where his older brother, Jalen, spent three years before turning pro earlier this spring. UCLA, Texas and SDSU essentially stopped recruiting him weeks ago, according to several sources, leaving Kentucky and Washington to battle for the 6-foot-10 McDonald’s all-American from the Seattle suburb of Federal Way.

At Washington, McDaniels will join fellow top 10 prep prospect Isaiah Stewart, a 6-9, 245-pound power forward, and four-star guard RaeQuan Battle. The Huskies also will add Kentucky transfer guard Quade Green.

Coach is doing a nice job in Seattle. UW will be tough for years to come. I suspect this is only the beginning.

zagmeister
05-22-2019, 06:54 PM
Wilkommen, Herr ZagMeister!

Allow me to offer my solution to those obsessed with being "objective", to the point where it's obvious that objectivity requires pointing out the shortcomings of our players.

Take a few days out of your summer, and put your son, nephew, grandson in a Zag hoops camp. If they're old enough, let them be full time campers for the camp. I had the best of both worlds, as my then 15 YO son was a camper...he had a few days respite from Mom and Dad, while our 6 YO grandson had a few days alone with Nana and Opa.

He had a pretty good time with us, as he's gotten used to Opa's predilection to searching out his next favorite winery. He is outgoing and a knack for making new friends.

What you will find with these camps is the unbelievable accessibility to the players there for the summer. They volunteer their time at these camps, and make themselves available for pictures, autographs, and friendly conversations. Corey took time out from his evening workout to give personal instruction to my grandson. Josh played my son in a game of one on one, and Jesse Wade's brother invited Big D to join him on the court while the Wade family was shooting hoops.

For me, it was all capped off by seeing Eric McClellan shooting free throws at about 10 PM, long after the campers had departed for the day. We had a brief but friendly conversation. He told me he was back at GU for personal reasons, and to "get his head right." As one who had not been on campus for 16 years, I completely understood his point of view.

We weren't even close to winning a mythical award for campers who traveled the farthest, and we drove up from Texas. My DFW alumni chapter shirt drew a few remarks, but there were kids from the East Coast, and I heard there were a few foreigners in attendance.

I try not to wear rose colored glasses, and I admit my objectivity may be a bit clouded. However, spend a few days around them, and see if it doesn't change your attitude about the Zag way of doing things, and how we're members of an ever growing Zag family.

Then, when all else fails, feel free to employ the Ignore feature on those who just can't get the message. :lmao:


Thank you for the welcome advice, TZF!

The amazing thing is that I've done exactly what you suggested. Over 15 years ago, for a 5-year span, my son and I attended the father-son Zags hoops camps. Some years we camped in the dorms at GU, even though we lived nearby. And the Zag we both probably remember the most? Ronny Turiaf!!

So... I've personally experienced the spectacular, positive and caring energy that many of the Zag players possess and warmly share with others. That's why it's so painful for me to read the negative, cutting, caustic, arrogant, and non-caring words from some on this Board. IMHO there is no place on this Board for the sensationalized negativity that some throw out there. Yes, it comes at us from many sides, from all sorts of media, but Life is too short to waste it in that short-sighted and insensitive manner. Go Zags!

MDABE80
05-22-2019, 11:46 PM
My opinion is that I wouldn't sacrifice a welcome contributor for a big Pain in the a** who distorts or interrupts most threads just to interrupt for personal reasons. Reviewing the posts, it looks like most would agree. Caldwell has done a very nice job producing information we might otherwise not get. As far as I'm concerned his value far outweighs insignificant obstructions or arguments. We have 6 full months till we tip. It's a long stretch without fresh information. Just my opinion.

northsidezagfan
05-23-2019, 01:22 AM
My opinion is that I wouldn't sacrifice a welcome contributor for a big Pain in the a** who distorts or interrupts most threads just to interrupt for personal reasons. Reviewing the posts, it looks like most would agree. Caldwell has done a very nice job producing information we might otherwise not get. As far as I'm concerned his value far outweighs insignificant obstructions or arguments. We have 6 full months till we tip. It's a long stretch without fresh information. Just my opinion.

Agreed

jazzdelmar
05-23-2019, 02:38 AM
My opinion is that I wouldn't sacrifice a welcome contributor for a big Pain in the a** who distorts or interrupts most threads just to interrupt for personal reasons. Reviewing the posts, it looks like most would agree. Caldwell has done a very nice job producing information we might otherwise not get. As far as I'm concerned his value far outweighs insignificant obstructions or arguments. We have 6 full months till we tip. It's a long stretch without fresh information. Just my opinion.

But there’s no new info. Much ado about nothing per new post that Nix is staying 2020, for example

northsidezagfan
05-23-2019, 02:49 AM
But there’s no new info. Much ado about nothing per new post that Nix is staying 2020, for example

I think that’s the point. We have many who act time they are “insiders” but nobody who actually posts anything of value. Doesn’t necessarily make Suggs, Nix etc any less likely, just less reassurance from Caldwell and argument from others along the way.

jazzdelmar
05-23-2019, 04:34 AM
I think that’s the point. We have many who act time they are “insiders” but nobody who actually posts anything of value. Doesn’t necessarily make Suggs, Nix etc any less likely, just less reassurance from Caldwell and argument from others along the way.

Doesn't make it more likely. Jenkins signed w/LV, Nix staying a 2020, Thornton in the wind, and Suggs eyeing football......not inspiring.

ZagBlue
05-23-2019, 05:36 AM
Doesn't make it more likely. Jenkins signed w/LV, Nix staying a 2020, Thornton in the wind, and Suggs eyeing football......not inspiring.
Don’t be so down Jazz (let me clarify your post :))
Jenkins signed with UNLV because we didn’t want him.
Nix is probably staying in 2020 as was always expected although not hoped for.
The wind Thornton is in seems to be blowing him to Spokane. He is just doing his normal due dilligence and hopefully getting some free visits.
There is no evidence Suggs is eyeing football. Caldwell always said “June” for his commitment and truthfully, I never expected it to happen quite that soon.
The world has not collapsed yet. We have signed two top 40 type recruits already for 2020 with more on the way.

jazzdelmar
05-23-2019, 05:41 AM
Don’t be so down Jazz (let me clarify your post :))
Jenkins signed with UNLV because we didn’t want him.
Nix is probably staying in 2020 as was always expected although not hoped for.
The wind Thornton is in seems to be blowing him to Spokane. He is just doing his normal due dilligence and hopefully getting some free visits.
There is no evidence Suggs is eyeing football. Caldwell always said “June” for his commitment and truthfully, I never expected it to happen quite that soon.
The world has not collapsed yet. We have signed two top 40 type recruits already for 2020 with more on the way.

It still walks like a duck, but thanks anyway, Blue.

EEzag
05-23-2019, 06:45 AM
lol, feels like we need a Debbie Downer soundbyte after some of the posts these days.

Gonzagit
05-23-2019, 07:08 AM
It still walks like a duck, but thanks anyway, Blue.

15 of the Top 100 from 2020 have even committed, and two of them are to the Zags. Love that the negative thing is your shtick here, but it's old.

TexasZagFan
05-23-2019, 07:22 AM
lol, feels like we need a Debbie Downer soundbyte after some of the posts these days.

No thanks, I get enough of that from my better half on a daily basis. Funny thing is, she caught Zag fever during our visit to Spokane two summers ago. Apparently she's recovered, as she thinks I should quit spending so much time on GU Boards.

I predict she'll have a relapse in December, when the Zags play Texas A&M in College Station.

willandi
05-23-2019, 07:48 AM
No thanks, I get enough of that from my better half on a daily basis. Funny thing is, she caught Zag fever during our visit to Spokane two summers ago. Apparently she's recovered, as she thinks I should quit spending so much time on GU Boards.

I predict she'll have a relapse in December, when the Zags play Texas A&M in College Station.

Which way will the fever go? Isn't she an A&M fan?

bigblahla
05-23-2019, 12:27 PM
Doesn't make it more likely. Jenkins signed w/LV, Nix staying a 2020, Thornton in the wind, and Suggs eyeing football......not inspiring.

Suggs will not play football in college... he knows where his bread will be buttered.... the unknown keeps the interest growing and that is part of the fun about being a recruit, along with the trips... Suggs is a Zag... he just hasn't shared it with the rest of us yet...

Go!! Zags!!!

MDABE80
05-23-2019, 12:56 PM
I agree Blah. After spending some time on his videos, I do believe he's among the most talented kids we've had at the PG slot. Plus with Dom and Strawther romancing him to join us, I doubt he'll go elsewhere. It's just such a good fit.

bigblahla
05-23-2019, 01:15 PM
I agree Blah. After spending some time on his videos, I do believe he's among the most talented kids we've had at the PG slot. Plus with Dom and Strawther romancing him to join us, I doubt he'll go elsewhere. It's just such a good fit.

Agree Doc, Dom and Straw and all the bigs he gets to feed the ball to.... and Ravet... unlike some folks here Suggs knows first hand Ravet can ball... the potential is unreal.... just have to wait patiently.... it's time for Coach and staff to get their first Natty.... and that's a team that can deliver it...

Go!! Zags!!!

raise the zag
05-24-2019, 09:00 AM
Imagining a trio of Suggs, Harris, & Strawther is amazing.

Combined with guys like Timme, Ballo, Watson, et al is spectacular. Although at least a few of these guys will be gone after Year 2.

Lightning in a bottle for at least a season, and if they do something special, they may want to stick around longer, who knows.

IowaSERE
05-24-2019, 10:10 AM
I cant even imagine that group as a group of soph guards and jr bigs. I wonder if there is a prop bet out there yet for the 2021 NCAA National Champions.