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scrooner
04-04-2019, 05:36 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26415034/twenty-years-later-uconn-upset-duke-reverberates

GoZags
04-04-2019, 05:58 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26415034/twenty-years-later-uconn-upset-duke-reverberates

Zags were 33 seconds and a possession away from the Final Four in '99. What an awesome start to this "cute little run"

It's so hard to get to a Final Four .... one of the premier programs of the last half decade or so (Virginia) is going to their first Final Four in 35 years. 35 years.

Zags will be back ... I'm confident.

But it won't be easy.

TexasZagFan
04-04-2019, 06:18 AM
Zags were 33 seconds and a possession away from the Final Four in '99. What an awesome start to this "cute little run"

It's so hard to get to a Final Four .... one of the premier programs of the last half decade or so (Virginia) is going to their first Final Four in 35 years. 35 years.

Zags will be back ... I'm confident.

But it won't be easy.

No, it won't be easy. I expect next year to be transitional, but I'm looking to 2021-2022 to be the next deep run in the Dance. Very few teams make the Final Four with a freshman PG, and Dominick Harris will be a freshman in 2020-2021.

My mind could be changed tomorrow, if we have players returning that I'm expecting to leave early. I just think that Rui, Brandon, and Killian have played their last game as Zags.

LTownZag
04-04-2019, 06:30 AM
Zags were 33 seconds and a possession away from the Final Four in '99. What an awesome start to this "cute little run"

It's so hard to get to a Final Four .... one of the premier programs of the last half decade or so (Virginia) is going to their first Final Four in 35 years. 35 years.

Zags will be back ... I'm confident.

But it won't be easy.

If you watched them against Oregon in the S16, let alone the 1-in-a-million circus shot against Purdue in the E8, you'd know that they required some huge luck to make it this year.

jazzdelmar
04-04-2019, 07:04 AM
Yet, Izzo has 9. And do not think he's coached too many NBA HOFers....

12 Mike Krzyzewski 1986, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2010, 2015 Duke
12 John Wooden 1962, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975 UCLA
11 Dean Smith 1967, 1968, 1969, 1972, 1977, 1981, 1982, 1991, 1993, 1995, 1997 North Carolina
9 Roy Williams 1991, 1993, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2008, 2009, 2016, 2017 Kansas (4), North Carolina (5)
8 Tom Izzo 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2009, 2010, 2015, 2019 Michigan State
6 Denny Crum 1972, 1975, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1986 Louisville
6 Adolph Rupp 1942, 1948, 1949, 1951, 1958, 1966 Kentucky
5 Rick Pitino 1987, 1993, 1996, 1997, 2005, 2012*, 2013* Providence (1), Kentucky (3), Louisville (1)
5 Jim Boeheim 1987, 1996, 2003, 2013, 2016

gonzagafan62
04-04-2019, 07:07 AM
If you watched them against Oregon in the S16, let alone the 1-in-a-million circus shot against Purdue in the E8, you'd know that they required some huge luck to make it this year.

Yeah we were on the ropes in 2017 to be honest..: if it wasn’t for a non goaltending call vs NW, or a blocked shot from Josh Perkins or the crazy foul NWG drew from WVU player down 3 to get the game within 1 a few plays after Javon Carter buried a triple we may have been sent home relatively early as well. Everything takes luck. That’s why it’s almost a crapshoot

gonzagafan62
04-04-2019, 07:16 AM
Yet, Izzo has 9. And do not think he's coached too many NBA HOFers....

12 Mike Krzyzewski 1986, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2010, 2015 Duke
12 John Wooden 1962, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975 UCLA
11 Dean Smith 1967, 1968, 1969, 1972, 1977, 1981, 1982, 1991, 1993, 1995, 1997 North Carolina
9 Roy Williams 1991, 1993, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2008, 2009, 2016, 2017 Kansas (4), North Carolina (5)
8 Tom Izzo 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2009, 2010, 2015, 2019 Michigan State
6 Denny Crum 1972, 1975, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1986 Louisville
6 Adolph Rupp 1942, 1948, 1949, 1951, 1958, 1966 Kentucky
5 Rick Pitino 1987, 1993, 1996, 1997, 2005, 2012*, 2013* Providence (1), Kentucky (3), Louisville (1)
5 Jim Boeheim 1987, 1996, 2003, 2013, 2016

Yup, exactly Jazz, but there’s an overwhelming difference. Izzy every single time has had a top 30 Defense, and there’s not many times in the last 20 years that he hasn’t ... maybe just once or twice. Our first top 30 Defense (since 2002) was 2009. 2009! Lol and half the time it didn’t crack the top 70. Morrison’s team was well above 120.

Top 30 defenses for Gonzaga:

2009, 2013 (at #30), 2014, 2015, 2017 (#1), 2018, 2019

We’ve had it seven times over 20 some years now. And it all just started recently. Some of those teams had no shot like 2014... lol. 2009 we killed our seed ourselves losing to PSU AND other bad games. You can see the difference in our tourney runs since Defense has been made a priority

Sweet Sixteens with a Top 30 Defense 5/7 Times Elite Eights came with defenses ranked inside top 16 (2015, 2017, and 2019. #1, #12, and #16 respectively)

Lesson is get a defense or don’t make it very far (at least consistently, to give yourself a great shot, there’s always outliers but those are few and far between)

Bouldin4Prez
04-04-2019, 10:28 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26415034/twenty-years-later-uconn-upset-duke-reverberates

UCONN players and coaches say that Gonzaga was their toughest opponent in the '99 NCAA tournament that started the streak. UCONN went on to beat Duke in the championship, but they felt the championship was in the Elite 8 vs the Zags. Thought it was kind of a cool tribute to how good that team was and we may underrate them at this point since it's been so long.

gonstu
04-04-2019, 10:55 AM
Been to Elite Eight 3 out of past 5 seasons? Keep that up and zags will get back to the F4. I think Few's got a good recipe going.

Schedule decently tough ooc, win some of those games, dominate conference, get in the tournament, win a couple games (and a couple more in some years), land high level recruits and grad transfers, rinse and repeat.

Getting to the F4 is tough. Who knows if they'll ever get back. But the pattern looks good right now.

scrooner
04-04-2019, 11:25 AM
That's not really a fair comparison, IMO. For one thing, Izzo makes almost 2.5x as much as Few. Michigan St has 8 players currently in the NBA compared to our 4, and since the 2000 draft class their former players have logged 5658 games in the NBA, compared to our 2549. We've only had 2 players play more than 300 NBA games (Olynyk & Turiaf), whereas they've had 8.

jazzdelmar
04-04-2019, 12:31 PM
That's not really a fair comparison, IMO. For one thing, Izzo makes almost 2.5x as much as Few. Michigan St has 8 players currently in the NBA compared to our 4, and since the 2000 draft class their former players have logged 5658 games in the NBA, compared to our 2549. We've only had 2 players play more than 300 NBA games (Olynyk & Turiaf), whereas they've had 8.

Huh? I wasn't comparing apples and oranges. Besides, it's 9-1, so your ire is unfounded.

CDC84
04-04-2019, 02:28 PM
Interestingly, the Duke/UConn title game took place at the last final four or NCAA tournament game to be held at the Tropicana Dome in St. Petersburg, FL. I understand the dome is in a crummy area of St. Pete, but I am surprised that the final four has never returned there. The NCAA cannot use the "There are no hotels or restaurants around there" excuse because NRG Stadium in Houston has the same problem. It's way away from downtown.

CDC84
04-04-2019, 02:38 PM
The lesson from all this: The NCAA Tournament is crazy.