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GonzagasaurusFlex
03-27-2019, 03:46 AM
Is it just me or have there been relatively few articles about this game to date other than from Spokesman Review?

Here are a couple I found this morning. Please add more here so we can all partake!:

https://www.slipperstillfits.com/2019/3/26/18281958/film-room-scouting-florida-state

https://www.tomahawknation.com/2019/3/26/18282353/ncaa-tournament-scouting-preview-gonzaga-bulldogs-fsu-basketball-florida-state-seminoles-sweet-16

https://bustingbrackets.com/2019/03/26/gonzaga-vs-florida-state-2019-ncaa-tournament-game-preview-tv-schedule/

Zagceo
03-27-2019, 04:43 AM
Nothing new but local OC newspaper ran story about Few & Monson

https://www.ocregister.com/2019/03/26/alexander-two-decades-later-lbsus-dan-monson-still-considered-part-of-gonzaga-family/

Zagger
03-27-2019, 05:32 AM
Here are 3 more ....

Good one on Clarke:
https://www.deadspin.com/brandon-clarkes-numbers-shouldnt-be-possible-1833578744/amp

Another reseeding of the 16 by SI:
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/03/26/march-madness-ncaa-tournament-sweet-16-rankings

And another by the Noles:
https://www.tomahawknation.com/platform/amp/2019/3/27/18282217/florida-state-basketball-football-recruiting-news-fsu-gonzaga-face-off-second-year-noles-seminoles

gonzagafan62
03-27-2019, 06:36 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/march-madness/2019/3/27/18283362/gonzaga-bulldogs-mark-few-ncaa-tournament-cinderella-blueblood

RenoZag
03-27-2019, 06:37 AM
Clarke Feature article:

https://theundefeated.com/features/how-gonzaga-brandon-clarke-went-from-underdog-to-lead-bulldog/


“He was with us all last year, so we knew he was a real talent, what he was capable of doing,” said Gonzaga coach Mark Few. “I’m pleasantly surprised with how consistent he’s been and how he’s been able to deliver not just on the defensive end but on offense as well.”

That steady play all season, along with that standout effort March 23, is the reason Clarke has been soaring up NBA draft boards.

Ojanen, who is now the assistant athletic director of men’s basketball at Saint Mary’s College of California, said a number of NBA teams have asked him about Clarke, who’s been compared to high-energy players such as former Phoenix Suns forward Shawn Marion and Houston Rockets forward Kenneth Faried.

jazzdelmar
03-27-2019, 06:44 AM
Is it just me or have there been relatively few articles about this game to date other than from Spokesman Review?

Here are a couple I found this morning. Please add more here so we can all partake!:

https://www.slipperstillfits.com/2019/3/26/18281958/film-room-scouting-florida-state

https://www.tomahawknation.com/2019/3/26/18282353/ncaa-tournament-scouting-preview-gonzaga-bulldogs-fsu-basketball-florida-state-seminoles-sweet-16

https://bustingbrackets.com/2019/03/26/gonzaga-vs-florida-state-2019-ncaa-tournament-game-preview-tv-schedule/

When you follow the team on a molecular level, as most here do, none of these "stories" shed any significant light on the Zags. More likely, they infuriate with wrong information.

jazzdelmar
03-27-2019, 06:45 AM
When you follow the team on a molecular level, as most here do, none of these "stories" shed any significant light on the Zags. More likely, they infuriate with wrong information.

jazzdelmar
03-27-2019, 07:20 AM
62, I don't get your personal irritation w my comment. I was speaking for myself, and for many here, not for the great unwashed. Sure, nice public service to trot out all the lore ... and nice public service for you to kudos the effort.

gonzagafan62
03-27-2019, 07:22 AM
62, I don't get your personal irritation w my comment. I was speaking for myself, and for many here, not for the great unwashed. Sure, nice public service to trot out all the lore ... and nice public service for you to kudos the effort.

I wasn’t really harping on you either, I think I misunderstood your comment jazz, and that’s why when I reread your comment I immediately deleted my comment. My bad jazz.

jazzdelmar
03-27-2019, 07:23 AM
I wasn’t really harping on you either, I think I misunderstood your comment jazz, and that’s why when I reread your comment I immediately deleted my comment. My bad jazz.

Not a prob. Beat freaking FSU!!!!!

Markburn1
03-27-2019, 07:25 AM
Have read this story many times over the years. Nothing new.

Always fun for me to have a reminder of where the Zags were and how they got here.

Thanks 62

Zags_Fanatic
03-27-2019, 07:29 AM
Man, FSU fans are really great. Would be so easy for them to be elitist considering their conference and last yearís result but the comment section after the Q&A is fantastic. I hope Zags win the game but if they donít Iíll be 100% in for Hamilton, Phil and their fans.


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willandi
03-27-2019, 07:41 AM
Clarke Feature article:

https://theundefeated.com/features/how-gonzaga-brandon-clarke-went-from-underdog-to-lead-bulldog/

I don't remember where (what thread), but I liked the statement by Few, on Clarke, that last year they had to stop letting him guard J3 in practice because it was demoralizing for J3.

paraphrased from my memory.

zagfan24
03-27-2019, 07:50 AM
Thanks for sharing '62. I actually liked the article, and while it offered nothing new, I didn't expect it to. This wasn't a local writer like Withers or Blanchette offering pearls of inside info; so I enjoy reading it from the outsider perspective and appreciating that more college basketball fans at a national level can recognize the accomplishments of the Gonzaga program.

I also think the article serves as a great reminder of the history of this program. A history that helps with my anxiety building up to Thursday, because while a national title will be a great capstone to this program's journey, the "story" of Zag basketball is not about a little engine that could making a great run or two in March. This is where the Gonzaga program has differentiated itself from Butler, Wichita St, VCU, etc in my opinion. The pattern of sustained excellence over the past 20 years is truly remarkable and quite possibly not replicable. The stunning number of factors that have, in confluence, contributed to this run would be hard to duplicate; from Few and Roth to the wonderful young men that have put on the Zag uniform, and including but not limited to the GU administration, boosters, community, students, and fans that have all been a part of this run.

LongIslandZagFan
03-27-2019, 08:23 AM
Thanks for posting it 62.

Gotta ask, was it really necessary to attack the article? How about, if you didn't appreciate it then don't say anything.

Radbooks
03-27-2019, 08:38 AM
Thanks for posting it 62.

Gotta ask, was it really necessary to attack the article? How about, if you didn't appreciate it then don't say anything.

Amen! I often find articles that I enjoy but I've stopped sharing them here because of the way some people react.

LongIslandZagFan
03-27-2019, 08:48 AM
with a headline like "Great Ringer article MUST READ" with its own thread as Zag fan on this board I expect new info call me stuffy.

I am not saying you have to like the article. Just saying that there wasn't a need to say anything at all. What it does is discourage people from posting anything for fear of this exact reaction. Didn't your parents teach you that if you don't have anything nice to say... then say nothing? Is civility a lost art on the internet? Does it have to be?

Robzagnut
03-27-2019, 08:54 AM
with a headline like "Great Ringer article MUST READ" with its own thread as Zag fan on this board I expect new info call me stuffy.


Stuffy is not the word I would use when you discourage people from posting excellent articles on popular national sites that do nothing but expand the Gonzaga brand, but I don't want to be banned right in the middle of another Final Four run. Ever think that some of us enjoy reading those articles?

raise the zag
03-27-2019, 10:12 AM
Man, FSU fans are really great. Would be so easy for them to be elitist considering their conference and last year’s result but the comment section after the Q&A is fantastic. I hope Zags win the game but if they don’t I’ll be 100% in for Hamilton, Phil and their fans.


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Noticed this as well.

Very humble, pragmatic, respectful fan base, esp considering their conference affiliation.

Ive browsed all of their 3 message boards and each have been open minded, honest, objective.

Haven't seen that in some time from a Power 6 school.

Impressed.

jazzdelmar
03-27-2019, 10:17 AM
Thanks for posting it 62.

Gotta ask, was it really necessary to attack the article? How about, if you didn't appreciate it then don't say anything.

Right back atcha. Why it always necessary to attack my personal POV? Last I looked, you're not the lunchroom monitor here.

Zagger
03-27-2019, 10:21 AM
I don't remember where (what thread), but I liked the statement by Few, on Clarke, that last year they had to stop letting him guard J3 in practice because it was demoralizing for J3.

paraphrased from my memory.

Pretty sure it’s in this one (likely others stories as well) that I linked above.
https://www.deadspin.com/brandon-clarkes-numbers-shouldnt-be-possible-1833578744/amp

gonzagafan62
03-27-2019, 10:22 AM
Not a prob. Beat freaking FSU!!!!!

That’s what I’m hoping for!!! Go zags!

sittingon50
03-27-2019, 10:28 AM
Enjoyed it, 62.

Section 116
03-27-2019, 11:46 AM
I , for one, enjoy this. I can't get enough of it even if it is a rehash of stuff I already know! Thanks "62"!

CDC84
03-27-2019, 12:31 PM
This is a wonderful article that really captures the Gonzaga rise to power so well. But I have one small quibble.

This is just my view, but however amazing Gonzaga's story has been, and how many outstanding achievements the team has achieved, we still have a ways to go until we get the "Blue Blood" tag. That's probably going to require multiple final fours, 2 or 3 national titles, and proof that the program can continue to thrive and survive and succeed after Coach Few retires, which, as I have said all along, I predict will be sooner than later. I also feel it takes more than a 20 year reign of power to achieve "Blue Blood" status. While I don't let the opinion of BCS homers influence my thinking, I do feel that some of the anti-Zag sentiment that continues to exist on message forums and comment sections has to do with various media people grouping Gonzaga with a category of teams that includes Kentucky, Kansas, Duke and North Carolina. It takes years and years of big time, huge success across multiple coaches in order to do what those programs have done.

I feel where Gonzaga is at the moment is at that next level below the Blue Bloods. And honestly, this year more than any other, I have seen less anti-Zag sentiment if the media person identifies Gonzaga as being where it truly stands in the pecking order of college basketball. The days of BCS homers believing that Penn State, Ole Miss, TCU and ASU could do exactly what Gonzaga has done in the WCC are over. Making 5 straight sweet 16's or better (an incredibly rare achievement in the expanded bracket era), combined with the national title game appearance and Gonzaga's consistent presence in the top 10 at kenpom.com (and the massive improvement in the program's defensive prowess) has led to a new view towards the Zags by outside people. When several media people mentioned on Saturday that we had just made our 5th straight sweet 16 or better, BCS homers said things like "Gonzaga is a great program that is just stuck in a trash conference." While I would object to the fact that the WCC is a "trash" conference, I cannot tell you enough what a change of attitude there has been. Even the people who objected to GU landing a #1 seed (which sort of lessened after some of the big boys started dropping games early in the league tourneys) still felt that Gonzaga was capable of winning a national title. They just felt they didn't deserve a one seed for this or that reason.

So things are improving......slowly. But I really wish that certain media members would cool down this talk about GU being a "Blue Blood" program. They still have a ways to go before they achieve that. But that just really reflects what MY view of what a "Blue Blood" program is. If it isn't your view or the writer's view, I can understand the difference of opinion. But I think when anti-Zag folks, or shall I say, former anti-Zag folks who are "coming around," see Gonzaga identified as a Blue Blood team by a media entity, its gets their blood boiling. Partly, because honestly, I think they are correct. Gonzaga still has more to do to achieve that.

zagnut2012
03-27-2019, 01:14 PM
Nice read on ZN.

Go Zags! Beat FSU!

Link.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/gonzaga-guard-zach-norvell-jr-chasing-basketball-dream-his-father-couldnt/ar-BBVj3h5?ocid=ientp

Zagceo
03-27-2019, 01:17 PM
great article ...thanks

DixieZag
03-27-2019, 01:46 PM
NIce pic of dad in there. Still looks like he can play.

LongIslandZagFan
03-27-2019, 01:48 PM
Great read... thanks for posting it.

MJ777
03-27-2019, 02:15 PM
Thanks for sharing '62. I actually liked the article, and while it offered nothing new, I didn't expect it to. This wasn't a local writer like Withers or Blanchette offering pearls of inside info; so I enjoy reading it from the outsider perspective and appreciating that more college basketball fans at a national level can recognize the accomplishments of the Gonzaga program.

I also think the article serves as a great reminder of the history of this program. A history that helps with my anxiety building up to Thursday, because while a national title will be a great capstone to this program's journey, the "story" of Zag basketball is not about a little engine that could making a great run or two in March. This is where the Gonzaga program has differentiated itself from Butler, Wichita St, VCU, etc in my opinion. The pattern of sustained excellence over the past 20 years is truly remarkable and quite possibly not replicable. The stunning number of factors that have, in confluence, contributed to this run would be hard to duplicate; from Few and Roth to the wonderful young men that have put on the Zag uniform, and including but not limited to the GU administration, boosters, community, students, and fans that have all been a part of this run.

I liked the article myself. One factor that I feel gets overlooked in this run of greatness is the school’s name - it just looks and sounds cool. Would this discussion board and the tourney streak exist if the school was named Spokane University?

zagnut2012
03-27-2019, 02:23 PM
Nice article on BC:

Link:

https://theundefeated.com/features/how-gonzaga-brandon-clarke-went-from-underdog-to-lead-bulldog/

Gonzagit
03-27-2019, 02:30 PM
I have a feeling Snacks could get hot and shoot us right to Minneapolis. He's ready to go nuts.

gon2mt
03-27-2019, 02:34 PM
I have been so impressed with Zack's commitment to defense and his growth in passing. He has gone way beyond just being a shooter.

Club Prez
03-27-2019, 02:37 PM
When you follow the team on a molecular level, as most here do, none of these "stories" shed any significant light on the Zags. More likely, they infuriate with wrong information.

These stories aren't what infuriates me. It is the negative response to the efforts of a board member to provide information so each of us can make our own determination as to its value. So sad.

Thanks GF62.

maynard g krebs
03-27-2019, 02:38 PM
Nothing new, but a nice trip down memory lane. Thanks.

sittingon50
03-27-2019, 02:50 PM
Thanks nut.

gonstu
03-27-2019, 02:59 PM
I have a feeling Snacks could get hot and shoot us right to Minneapolis. He's ready to go nuts.

Yes, aren't we due for a 7 for 9 from 3 shooting day from him? I would not mind if that was tomorrow night!

webspinnre
03-27-2019, 03:12 PM
For anyone having issues accessing the story, here's a better link:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2019/03/27/march-madness-gonzaga-guard-zach-norvell-key-ncaa-tournament-run/3284251002/

zagzilla
03-27-2019, 04:10 PM
If you believe in things like regression to the mean, then Zach is "due" for an above average shooting performance. Going on a 4 game "heater" would just about balance out his averages over the past 5 games.

He has 3PFG of 30% over the past 5 games vs and very steady career average of 37%.

gonzagafan62
03-27-2019, 04:20 PM
Love it thanks

raise the zag
03-27-2019, 05:13 PM
Pre Game Press Conference: Florida St & Gonzaga

https://youtu.be/9P0RqemVKf0

ZagNative
03-27-2019, 06:14 PM
Thanks so much for posting this link, PTZ! Good stuff!


Pre Game Press Conference: Florida St & Gonzaga

https://youtu.be/9P0RqemVKf0

DixieZag
03-27-2019, 06:18 PM
Pre Game Press Conference: Florida St & Gonzaga

https://youtu.be/9P0RqemVKf0

The more I listen to Leonard Hamilton the more I like him.

raise the zag
03-27-2019, 06:54 PM
The more I listen to Leonard Hamilton the more I like him.

I really like their Coach. Seems like a great guy/leader/father figure. Enjoy tuning into his radio & tv appearances, one cool cat, practical, straight fwd, honest, kind hearted.

Been following/listening to him all week, endearing guy.

RenoZag
03-27-2019, 07:32 PM
Mark Few's 'Top 20" ( from Jim Meehan )

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/mar/26/mark-few-maintains-2020-vision-throughout-gonzagas/


But the locker-room revelry is trumped by one scene from the 2017 Final Four that linked the program’s past to the present. Following a film session at the team hotel, Few had dozens of former Zags enter the room, greeted by a standing ovation from the 2017 team.

“I’d guess there were 75 former players,” Few said. “That’s really a special deal that will last with you the rest of your life. We had an event a day or two before with their wives and families and people connected with us, and there were several hundred people.”

“That was really cool to see how many generations of Zags were there in one place,” Lloyd added. “Some of other groups were fighting to be relevant, and we were fighting for a national championship.”