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sittingon50
01-31-2019, 11:33 PM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

DixieZag
02-01-2019, 05:11 AM
We're stuck on that 2 seed unless one or two of those teams above get a couple bad losses, a good loss won't hurt them bc they'll get just as many good wins.

Frustrating, bc I think we deserve a one seed were we not blown out at UNC. Had that game just been a tough fight, 3-5 point loss, I believe we're a one seed.

strikenowhere
02-01-2019, 05:14 AM
In the end, I don't think it matters all that much - this team would certainly be the strongest #2 seed by far, which I think means they'd get paired up with the weakest #1 out West. Nobody wants the Zags in their bracket.

DixieZag
02-01-2019, 05:21 AM
In the end, I don't think it matters all that much - this team would certainly be the strongest #2 seed by far, which I think means they'd get paired up with the weakest #1 out West. Nobody wants the Zags in their bracket.

Yes, you're right about that. It doesn't make a huge difference, the E8 game is usually the same, just one team wears white and one road.

But, the 2 seed can have a more difficult S16 game.


Eh, this team will likely end-up ranked number 2 or 3, if they continue to demolish the WCC. If they're ranked 2 or 3 and get a 2 seed, that might be the ideal chip on their shoulder as they enter.

gueastcoast
02-01-2019, 05:22 AM
In the end, I don't think it matters all that much - this team would certainly be the strongest #2 seed by far, which I think means they'd get paired up with the weakest #1 out West. Nobody wants the Zags in their bracket.

I have grudgingly come to this view -- my go-to is typically the Rodney Dangerfield grievance vibe, that we get no respect -- but a 2 in the West suits me fine, and may even be a benefit if the boys feel a little chip on the shoulder for being passed over for a 1 seed by a weaker team.

gueastcoast
02-01-2019, 05:24 AM
Yes, you're right about that. It doesn't make a huge difference, the E8 game is usually the same, just one team wears white and one road.

But, the 2 seed can have a more difficult S16 game.


Eh, this team will likely end-up ranked number 2 or 3, if they continue to demolish the WCC. If they're ranked 2 or 3 and get a 2 seed, that might be the ideal chip on their shoulder as they enter.

posted the same thought at the same moment! Great minds lol

Bogozags
02-01-2019, 05:34 AM
Not being named a #1 seed in the west will IMO have little effect on our psyche...this team will not have a problem being focused each and every game they play...

I am just sad that this season is on the down side of the hill...wish we still had 20+ games to play...they are such fun to watch...will miss this group more than any other in the past...

willandi
02-01-2019, 05:46 AM
I would love that bracket.

Toughest team on paper would be Michigan and then a re-match with Tennessee or UNC,

Take it in a second,

zagamatic
02-01-2019, 06:21 AM
I'd take that bracket in a heartbeat. Louisville and NC STATE, even Texas Tech are more of an issue than Michigan for us. I'm just not scared of Michigan like some people are because I don't see them being able to score more than 50 on our defense, where we can easily hit 65 on theirs

TexasZagFan
02-01-2019, 06:51 AM
I have grudgingly come to this view -- my go-to is typically the Rodney Dangerfield grievance vibe, that we get no respect -- but a 2 in the West suits me fine, and may even be a benefit if the boys feel a little chip on the shoulder for being passed over for a 1 seed by a weaker team.

Beating BYU in Provo by 30 will catch the eye of analysts and bracketologists everywhere. That cannot easily be dismissed.

thespywhozaggedme
02-01-2019, 08:05 AM
We're stuck on that 2 seed unless one or two of those teams above get a couple bad losses, a good loss won't hurt them bc they'll get just as many good wins.

Frustrating, bc I think we deserve a one seed were we not blown out at UNC. Had that game just been a tough fight, 3-5 point loss, I believe we're a one seed.

Don't worry, Michigan will lose several more games. Their offense isn't very good.

TacomaZAG
02-01-2019, 09:32 AM
Would take that bracket all day long, and twice on Sundays.............

A 2 seed, especially the top 2 seed, is no different than the final 1 seed, probably just the same two teams switching places, which changes nothing in the E8 game other than the Jersey colors, as has been noted.

I just don't want to see a middle-of- the-conference SEC team, who will want to ugly it up, turn it into a FT contest, and get into a 50-48 scrum. Other than that, it's all good.

Go ZAGS

willandi
02-01-2019, 09:36 AM
Would take that bracket all day long, and twice on Sundays.............

A 2 seed, especially the top 2 seed, is no different than the final 1 seed, probably just the same two teams switching places, which changes nothing in the E8 game other than the Jersey colors, as has been noted.

I just don't want to see a middle-of- the-conference SEC team, who will want to ugly it up, turn it into a FT contest, and get into a 50-48 scrum. Other than that, it's all good.

Go ZAGS

The one other difference is a shoulder chip. If the two seed feels slighted, they may play a little harder.

TacomaZAG
02-01-2019, 09:54 AM
The one other difference is a shoulder chip. If the two seed feels slighted, they may play a little harder.

Copy that, Will, I'll take any advantage we can get!!

Go ZAGS

raise the zag
02-01-2019, 10:00 AM
If we remain healthy, we will literally run through any team not named Duke, Virginia, or Michigan imho

Florida St too, just an awful matchup of personel and style.

Anyone else ... bring em on!

Zagceo
02-01-2019, 11:01 AM
lowest number of quality wins in top 10 and SOS will prevent a #1 seed imo

I believe Zags top 4 team based on eye test




RK
TEAM
CONF
W-L (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/desc/view/resume/sort/winpct)
SOR RK (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/desc/view/resume/sort/sorrank)
SEED (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/asc/view/resume/sort/projectedtournamentseed)
SOR S-CURVE (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/asc/view/resume/sort/projectedtournamentorder)
QUAL W-L (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/desc/view/resume/sort/qualitywinpct)
SOS RK (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/asc/view/resume/sort/sospastrank)
NON-CONF SOS RK (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/asc/view/resume/sort/sosoutofconfpastrank)


1
Virginia (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/258/virginia-cavaliers)
ACC
19-1
1
1
1
6-1
25
140


2
Michigan (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/130/michigan-wolverines)
Big Ten
20-1
2
1
2
6-1
44
188


3
Michigan State (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/127/michigan-state-spartans)
Big Ten
18-3
3
1
3
8-3
3
24


4
Duke (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/150/duke-blue-devils)
ACC
18-2
4
1
4
7-2
10
12


5
Tennessee (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2633/tennessee-volunteers)
SEC
19-1
5
2
5
4-1
57
87


6
Gonzaga (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2250/gonzaga-bulldogs)
WCC
20-2
6
2
6
3-2
83
41


7
Kansas (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2305/kansas-jayhawks)
Big 12
16-5
7
2
7
10-3
1
2


8
North Carolina (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/153/north-carolina-tar-heels)
ACC
16-4
8
2
8
4-4
7
8


9
Kentucky (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/96/kentucky-wildcats)
SEC
17-3
9
3
9
5-2
35
32


10
Marquette (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/269/marquette-golden-eagles)
Big East
19-3
10
3
10
5-3
41
57




http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/view/resume

thespywhozaggedme
02-01-2019, 03:53 PM
Don't worry, Michigan will lose several more games. Their offense isn't very good.

I may be a prophet. They're trailing at the half to Iowa by 13.

gbnyba17
02-01-2019, 04:01 PM
lowest number of quality wins in top 10 and SOS will prevent a #1 seed imo

I believe Zags top 4 team based on eye test




RK
TEAM
CONF
W-L (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/desc/view/resume/sort/winpct)
SOR RK (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/desc/view/resume/sort/sorrank)
SEED (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/asc/view/resume/sort/projectedtournamentseed)
SOR S-CURVE (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/asc/view/resume/sort/projectedtournamentorder)
QUAL W-L (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/desc/view/resume/sort/qualitywinpct)
SOS RK (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/asc/view/resume/sort/sospastrank)
NON-CONF SOS RK (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/asc/view/resume/sort/sosoutofconfpastrank)


1
Virginia (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/258/virginia-cavaliers)
ACC
19-1
1
1
1
6-1
25
140


2
Michigan (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/130/michigan-wolverines)
Big Ten
20-1
2
1
2
6-1
44
188


3
Michigan State (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/127/michigan-state-spartans)
Big Ten
18-3
3
1
3
8-3
3
24


4
Duke (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/150/duke-blue-devils)
ACC
18-2
4
1
4
7-2
10
12


5
Tennessee (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2633/tennessee-volunteers)
SEC
19-1
5
2
5
4-1
57
87


6
Gonzaga (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2250/gonzaga-bulldogs)
WCC
20-2
6
2
6
3-2
83
41


7
Kansas (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2305/kansas-jayhawks)
Big 12
16-5
7
2
7
10-3
1
2


8
North Carolina (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/153/north-carolina-tar-heels)
ACC
16-4
8
2
8
4-4
7
8


9
Kentucky (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/96/kentucky-wildcats)
SEC
17-3
9
3
9
5-2
35
32


10
Marquette (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/269/marquette-golden-eagles)
Big East
19-3
10
3
10
5-3
41
57




http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/view/resume

im sorry but i dont see how we deserve anything more than a 2 seed by looking at this. certainly not a 1 seed. shouldve beaten tennessee. bring on the 2 seed.

Zagceo
02-01-2019, 04:04 PM
im sorry but i dont see how we deserve anything more than a 2 seed by looking at this. certainly not a 1 seed. shouldve beaten tennessee. bring on the 2 seed.

the out for voting members will be Tillie excuse.

Martin Centre Mad Man
02-01-2019, 04:31 PM
I may be a prophet. They're trailing at the half to Iowa by 13.

The Wolverines just made a run to cut it to five points after trailing by 17. Iíve watched a few of their games where weaker teams have stayed with them or even lead them...and then they just flip a switch on defense and demoralize teams.

Iím sure they will lose a game or two, but not many.

thespywhozaggedme
02-01-2019, 04:41 PM
The Wolverines just made a run to cut it to five points after trailing by 17. I’ve watched a few of their games where weaker teams have stayed with them or even lead them...and then they just flip a switch on defense and demoralize teams.

I’m sure they will lose a game or two, but not many.

Back up to 17. There's nothing whatsoever that stands out about them at all. I wouldn't be shocked if they lost in the round of 32.

gueastcoast
02-01-2019, 04:59 PM
Back up to 17. There's nothing whatsoever that stands out about them at all. I wouldn't be shocked if they lost in the round of 32.

Been saying this for a few weeks. Color me unimpressed with UM.

thespywhozaggedme
02-01-2019, 05:02 PM
Been saying this for a few weeks. Color me unimpressed with UM.

Their best wins are Oregon, Nebraska and Ohio State. Michigan was the definition of overrated.

thespywhozaggedme
02-01-2019, 05:04 PM
And Michigan loses by 15 in Iowa City. They can kiss their #1 seed bye bye.

gueastcoast
02-01-2019, 05:04 PM
Their best wins are Oregon, Nebraska and Ohio State. Michigan was the definition of overrated.

Question is....does this move us up to the 1 line?

thespywhozaggedme
02-01-2019, 05:12 PM
If we remain healthy, we will literally run through any team not named Duke, Virginia, or Michigan imho

Florida St too, just an awful matchup of personel and style.

Anyone else ... bring em on!

Uh, one is not like the others

thespywhozaggedme
02-01-2019, 05:13 PM
Question is....does this move us up to the 1 line?

It's Feb. 1st. We will not lose another game until MM. Other teams will lose more than 1 game. I don't see how we don't wind up as a 1 seed eventually.

LTownZag
02-01-2019, 05:50 PM
Their best wins are Oregon, Nebraska and Ohio State. Michigan was the definition of overrated.



They smoked #9 UNC. That team that handed us our worst loss in a couple years.

23dpg
02-01-2019, 06:07 PM
They smoked #9 UNC. That team that handed us our worst loss in a couple years.

They also beat Villanova 73-46 at Villanova.

Michigan lost to a good Iowa team on the road. I don’t believe they are overrated. Maybe they peaked too soon but they’re definitely a good team.

thespywhozaggedme
02-01-2019, 07:14 PM
They also beat Villanova 73-46 at Villanova.

Michigan lost to a good Iowa team on the road. I don’t believe they are overrated. Maybe they peaked too soon but they’re definitely a good team.

My alma mater, Furman beat Villanova at Villanova.

zagamatic
02-01-2019, 07:21 PM
BOTH of Michigan's losses are worse than our worst loss. And our win over Duke carries more weight IMO than wins over UNC or Villanova (individually, but I'll concede probably not together). Plus, Michigan is beginning to show the vulnerability of not being able to put up points on teams they should. This will harken back to last year's Virginia team who became the first #1 seed to lose to a 16 BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T SCORE

23dpg
02-01-2019, 08:08 PM
My alma mater, Furman beat Villanova at Villanova.

You’re arguing that Oregon, Nebraska and Ohio State are better wins than North Carolina (by 17) and Nova (27)?

maynard g krebs
02-02-2019, 11:09 AM
Nova had almost a completely new team at the beginning of the season. Those guys now have a few months with the best coach in CBB. Results of those games would be different now.

And Oregon didn't play Michigan, unless you're talking about the women. Oregon did lose to Iowa.