How can you tell if someone is a grad transfer?

[thespywhozaggedme]

I honestly am not surer how to figure out the criteria. For example, this kid is from Federal Way, Washington. This is his 3rd season, but it says that he's a senior. So would he be eligible to be a grad transfer? if so, I wouldn't mind him filling in for ZN for a year if Zach comes out this year.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4067714/trey-burch-manning

[Marcus]

https://goyotes.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=9469

Looks like he played at a Jr College his freshman year and this is his 3rd at UofSD, so no he wouldn't be eligible. Players are usually listed as RS Jr if they would be eligible for a grad transfer but there is no way of knowing if they have earned enough credits to graduate or intend too graduate and transfer without they themselves announcing it or making it public knowledge.

[MileHigh]

I honestly am not surer how to figure out the criteria. For example, this kid is from Federal Way, Washington. This is his 3rd season, but it says that he's a senior. So would he be eligible to be a grad transfer? if so, I wouldn't mind him filling in for ZN for a year if Zach comes out this year.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...-burch-manning

The "class"on college basketball rosters generally means where they stand eligibility wise, not school wise. The kid you mentioned played one year of JUCO and 3 years at USD. Hes done after this season.
Look for kids that are listed as "RS Junior" to be candidates for a grad transfer

[seacatfan]

RS Jr. is usually a good place to start, but wouldn't have identified someone like Jordan Mathews who earned his undergrad degree in 3 years.

Quite frankly, barring injury, it's not a good idea to RS players anymore. I know GU has used it very effectively for years, but now it just means you risk losing a player as a grad transfer.

[thespywhozaggedme]

Thanks guys for the replies. Does it actually say "redshirt junior" on ESPN under the players class?

[ZagzKrak]

Thanks guys for the replies. Does it actually say "redshirt junior" on ESPN under the players class?

check ZN's to see if it shows RS So.

edit: I looked and it doesn't look like they show RS on their site

[Zagceo]

https://gozags.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=2529

Redshirt Sophomore

[thespywhozaggedme]

https://gozags.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=2529

Redshirt Sophomore

Thank you. But I was specifically talking about ESPN and how to find out who grad transfers would be. I'm trying to figure out a way to decipher who could potential he be a grad transfer for next year at the point

[maynard g krebs]

Quite frankly, barring injury, it's not a good idea to RS players anymore. I know GU has used it very effectively for years, but now it just means you risk losing a player as a grad transfer.

Seems to me that GU losing a significant player to grad trans is unlikely. Those guys are usually moving up, like Geno, or laterally, if they're good. The players GU has lost as grad transfers went to Long Beach and Portland State, and neither were key players for the Zags.

As to redshirting, I think the issue is with redshirting a guy who won't be there for 5 years anyway (Rui). In that sense, Norvell's RS may turn out to be a waste.

To me, the issue w/ grad transfers is that it hurts low/mid majors who put time and effort into developing under the radar guys and lose them as seniors.

[Zagdawg]

Little early with this one ---Probably a better shot towards the end of the school year -- as there will be a ton more options/announcements from players leaving their programs.

[thespywhozaggedme]

Little early with this one ---Probably a better shot towards the end of the school year -- as there will be a ton more options/announcements from players leaving their programs.

No, I agree. I was just wondering if there was a way to determine who would be eligible if they so choose. But I don't think there is.

[Zagdawg]

Try this -- not sure how up to date it is

https://gradtransfertracker.com/potential-transfers-1/

[DZ]

Seems to me that GU losing a significant player to grad trans is unlikely. Those guys are usually moving up, like Geno, or laterally, if they're good. The players GU has lost as grad transfers went to Long Beach and Portland State, and neither were key players for the Zags.

As to redshirting, I think the issue is with redshirting a guy who won't be there for 5 years anyway (Rui). In that sense, Norvell's RS may turn out to be a waste.

To me, the issue w/ grad transfers is that it hurts low/mid majors who put time and effort into developing under the radar guys and lose them as seniors.

Yes, it does seem to impact the small to mids' more, and especially those programs that do a great job developing kids.

Yet, it is one of the few "ace in the hole's" that players have to get into a better situation, and to me, given the coaches' mobility, I wouldn't want them to lose that privilege.

To me, a kid fulfills his requirement by showing up and graduating in 3-4 years. If he has a year of eligibility and wants to attend a different grad school, let them go, as harmful as it is to some programs. I would also think that the programs that got our guys w/ transfers are likely happy.

[seacatfan]

I was referring to the practice of RS in general, not just at GU. I mentioned GU specifically because they used to RS quite a few players, but seems like they've had much fewer voluntary RS in recent years.

[White lightning]

They are usually not from Kentucky.

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