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strikenowhere
10-22-2018, 08:09 AM
https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll

1. Kansas (37)
2. Kentucky (19)
3. Gonzaga (1)
4. Duke (4)
5. Virginia (2)

EDIT: And apparently somehow St. Mary's is 22nd ?!?!?!

gonstu
10-22-2018, 08:14 AM
Depending on how maui shakes out - zags could play #'s: 4, 6, 8 11.

Here's to hoping those teams on our schedule are as good as they're supposed to be. Seems like in years past we've had teams on our schedule that were supposed to be good but then fizzled out.

Sandpointzagsfan
10-22-2018, 08:14 AM
How is Wichita state ranked in the top 10? They lost everyone and are predicted to finish 6th I think in the anerican

Sandpointzagsfan
10-22-2018, 08:34 AM
They fixed it. When it first came out it had Wichita at 7 and saint Mary’s at 22 ������

jazzdelmar
10-22-2018, 08:42 AM
How is Wichita state ranked in the top 10? They lost everyone and are predicted to finish 6th I think in the anerican

Top 5 coach. As despicable as he is, Greggggg can coach.

gonstu
10-22-2018, 08:59 AM
Do you get bonus points in the AP voting if your program is mentioned in the current ncaa trial?

Zagceo
10-22-2018, 12:41 PM
The games haven’t even started yet but Gonzaga has gone where no Gonzaga team has gone before.

another milestone achieved

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/oct/22/loaded-gonzaga-nabs-no-3-spot-in-ap-top-25-preseas/

23dpg
10-22-2018, 12:41 PM
Always fun to see who voted where.

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/

Zagceo
10-22-2018, 01:00 PM
Voters established a clear top tier: Kansas, Kentucky, No. 3 Gonzaga (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2250/gonzaga-bulldogs) and No. 4 Duke (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/150/duke-blue-devils). Those four teams appeared in some combination at the top of nearly half the ballots (32 of 65).

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25053949/kansas-leads-kentucky-ap-preseason-college-hoops-poll

thespywhozaggedme
10-22-2018, 01:02 PM
I'm sure the staff made sure that Timme was made aware of this

MDABE80
10-22-2018, 02:50 PM
A #3 and 1 seed should get every recruit's attention. A line would be at the door at GU. More so if we got a title. For the upcoming season, Few should get a very rich harvest.

DixieZag
10-22-2018, 04:05 PM
Very impressive.

I actually think early polls matter, not significantly, but still matter.

Sets up expectations.

Sets up confidence in the team.

If you begin year high, seems like you get more benefit of the doubt later on if a couple losses come in.

Few and team should be proud, they've earned this level of respect.

sittingon50
10-22-2018, 04:59 PM
Always fun to see who voted where.

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/

The lowest vote from the Ohio St. guy. Guess 2 L's last year just weren't enough to convince him.

TexasZagFan
10-22-2018, 05:54 PM
The lowest vote from the Ohio St. guy. Guess 2 L's last year just weren't enough to convince him.

Still mad that we bounced them in the Dance last year.

The football team losing last weekend to Purdue had to have put him in an even fouler state of mind.

GoZags
10-22-2018, 06:07 PM
The lowest vote from the Ohio St. guy. Guess 2 L's last year just weren't enough to convince him.

Those games were MUCH closer than the 33 point combined margin of victories .... nail biters ...

DixieZag
10-23-2018, 05:51 AM
The lowest vote from the Ohio St. guy. Guess 2 L's last year just weren't enough to convince him.

Well done.

Gave me a needed chuckle.

zagdontzig
10-23-2018, 12:02 PM
They fixed it. When it first came out it had Wichita at 7 and saint Mary’s at 22 ������

And they entered the NIT a Top 25 team last year.

Zagdawg
10-24-2018, 09:20 AM
No. 3 Gonzaga: Is this version of the Zags better than the team that reached the title game?

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2018/10/24/no-3-gonzaga-is-this-version-of-the-zags-better-than-the-team-that-reached-the-title-game/

Zagceo
10-24-2018, 09:32 AM
Rob Dauster as well written as any I've seen so far.

Zagdawg
10-24-2018, 09:38 AM
College basketball rankings 1-353: From Kansas to No. 353 and an interesting fact on every team

2. Gonzaga
It's going to be 20 straight NCAA Tournament appearances for Mark Few and the Bulldogs this season. WOW. To do this coming out of the WCC is astounding. The Zags have four (Rui Hachimura, Josh Perkins, Killian Tillie, Zach Norvell) of the 50 best players in the sport -- and that's not accounting for freak transfer Brandon Clarke and grad transfer Geno Crandall. The Bulldogs are only two seasons removed from losing in a close national title game to North Carolina. This team looks better than that one.


https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-1-353-from-kansas-to-no-353-and-an-interesting-fact-on-every-team/

jazzdelmar
10-24-2018, 10:32 AM
Next year's frontline of Clark (hope so), Petrusev and Watson will be even better.

Goshzagit
10-24-2018, 12:00 PM
College basketball rankings 1-353: From Kansas to No. 353 and an interesting fact on every team

2. Gonzaga
It's going to be 20 straight NCAA Tournament appearances for Mark Few and the Bulldogs this season. WOW. To do this coming out of the WCC is astounding. The Zags have four (Rui Hachimura, Josh Perkins, Killian Tillie, Zach Norvell) of the 50 best players in the sport -- and that's not accounting for freak transfer Brandon Clarke and grad transfer Geno Crandall. The Bulldogs are only two seasons removed from losing in a close national title game to North Carolina. This team looks better than that one.


https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-1-353-from-kansas-to-no-353-and-an-interesting-fact-on-every-team/

I keep seeing that [bolded] sentence mentioned by many, and I keep disagreeing with it.

This team is more talented, yet unproven and more glaring weaknesses (defense, rebounding, & lack of size) imho.

'16-'-17 was uniquely balanced -- size, talent, proven leadership, toughness, size, and defensive minded.

We actually featured a true center, heck, two centers on that team. This year's team has none. Not one. For defense or offense or rebounding. Not saying its the end all, but a luxury. A go-to, settles offense, protects rim/lane, grinds, a bail out on both ends, an intimidation factor, etc.

I like this year's squad but not at clear-cut, roles and positions still being defined. '16-'17 every player fit their role and position perfectly -- to a T. This team has tweeners, some wanting, or not wanting to play certain positions but required to, etc.

I am curious about the consistency factor. the top-to-bottom toughness factor. the lack of defensive size factor. even the grit it out and rebound factor.

Time will tell, and I expect big things, yet I just don't see us as better than 2 yrs ago. Maybe more flash, star power, and talent on paper, but lacks many areas needed for consistent results.

maynard g krebs
10-24-2018, 12:12 PM
I thought Dauster seriously undervalued the Zags' backcourt.

MDABE80
10-24-2018, 12:46 PM
Instead of 2 7 footers, we have 2 6 11 kids who are more athletic. We'll miss Karno's bulk and his passing ( maybe) but Pertrusev is a very very good passer. Throw in Clark and Rui, it just doesn't seem we're lacking to much.
We do not have Nigel who ran that FF team and seemed to lift everyone. But Josh will be better and Crandall and Norvell surely will be more than adequate.
It's always hard to be exact when we haven't seen this unit play together. It'
ll be a coaching gem that get us to the FF and maybe a title.

DixieZag
10-24-2018, 03:25 PM
I keep seeing that [bolded] sentence mentioned by many, and I keep disagreeing with it.

This team is more talented, yet unproven and more glaring weaknesses (defense, rebounding, & lack of size) imho.

'16-'-17 was uniquely balanced -- size, talent, proven leadership, toughness, size, and defensive minded.

We actually featured a true center, heck, two centers on that team. This year's team has none. Not one. For defense or offense or rebounding. Not saying its the end all, but a luxury. A go-to, settles offense, protects rim/lane, grinds, a bail out on both ends, an intimidation factor, etc.

I like this year's squad but not at clear-cut, roles and positions still being defined. '16-'17 every player fit their role and position perfectly -- to a T. This team has tweeners, some wanting, or not wanting to play certain positions but required to, etc.

I am curious about the consistency factor. the top-to-bottom toughness factor. the lack of defensive size factor. even the grit it out and rebound factor.

Time will tell, and I expect big things, yet I just don't see us as better than 2 yrs ago. Maybe more flash, star power, and talent on paper, but lacks many areas needed for consistent results.

Yes, it is hard to declare a team better than a one seed NCAA final team.

It seems to me that pundits look almost solely at offensive capability, and in that sense this team looks more explosive with more weapons.

But as you note, so many other factors.