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thespywhozaggedme
10-21-2018, 03:51 PM
They won by 20. Pretty shocking results, even if it is an exhibition.

https://www.mwcboard.com/index.php?/topic/79074-nevada-vs-washington-exhibition/&page=2

Zagsker
10-21-2018, 03:55 PM
When do we play MSU?

GonzagasaurusFlex
10-21-2018, 03:56 PM
When do we play MSU?

Next Saturday 10/27

Zagsker
10-21-2018, 03:58 PM
Next Saturday 10/27

But I want gratification NOW!!!!

jazzdelmar
10-21-2018, 04:25 PM
Will there be similar reports?

kclubfounder
10-21-2018, 04:31 PM
Shocking result. Now that Romar is gone I'm totally OK with the Dawgs getting good again. I'd LOVE the UW/Zags game to become one of the huge national early-season games on an annual basis.

Radbooks
10-21-2018, 04:43 PM
Will there be similar reports?

This was an actual exhibition game with money going to charity, not a scrimmage.

OntZags
10-21-2018, 04:50 PM
Will there be similar reports?

Very doubtful. This was a charity exhibition.

Will probably hear some details ala the SMC/Stanford tweet (eg. "SMC beats stanford fairly easily") but there wont be any boxscores or anything of that sort.

ZagNative
10-21-2018, 05:00 PM
From Twitter:


Percy Allen
‏Verified account @percyallen
53m53 minutes ago

Behind a big second-half rally, @UW_MBB captures a 91-73 exhibition win at Nevada. Jaylen Nowell finished with 26 points on 12-of-15 shooting. David Crisp added 20, Matisse Thybulle 17 and Dominic Green 12. Noah Dickerson did not play.

maynard g krebs
10-21-2018, 05:40 PM
Not that shocking really. Washington returns their entire team, while Nevada has a ton of new guys. It's gonna take them a while to integrate and get on the same page.

Zagdawg
10-21-2018, 06:20 PM
Washington was missing Dickerson (2nd leading scorer) and leading rebounder for them. They are going to be a handful.

MDABE80
10-21-2018, 07:08 PM
Washington’s always had very good talent but they had a lousy coach who recruited well. Now UW has a good coach who teaches good defense . They won’t be a walkover as in prior years. Nowell is a very talented guard.

thespywhozaggedme
10-21-2018, 07:11 PM
Not that shocking really. Washington returns their entire team, while Nevada has a ton of new guys. It's gonna take them a while to integrate and get on the same page.

I know playing the contrarian is kind of your thing but yes it was shocking because not only was the game in Reno but Washington beat them by 20 points and Nevada is a top 10 preseason team. In Seattle and a three or four point victory for Washington, not shocking. A 20 point blowout in Reno, shocking. Plus Noah Dickerson didn't even play, which makes it even more shocking.

kclubfounder
10-21-2018, 07:57 PM
I know playing the contrarian is kind of your thing but yes it was shocking because not only was the game in Reno but Washington beat them by 20 points and Nevada is a top 10 preseason team. In Seattle and a three or four point victory for Washington, not shocking. A 20 point blowout in Reno, shocking. Plus Noah Dickerson didn't even play, which makes it even more shocking.

Yep. Particularly if it was more than a glorified scrimmage - and it sounds like it was.

bartruff1
10-22-2018, 12:34 AM
Shocked me.... based upon the pre season hype....especially at home..... and giving up that many points....not good..

Zagger
10-22-2018, 02:25 AM
Shocked me.... based upon the pre season hype....especially at home..... and giving up that many points....not good..

Respectfully disagree. If any of GU's year to year competition is going to get better I'd prefer it to be the WA teams we play. UW torching Nevada by 20 is good news in my book. I'd like to see GU play a better Cougar team too. We'll be playing Central WA a week from Thursday. It'd be fun if that game was competitive as well.

Reborn
10-22-2018, 06:34 AM
Respectfully disagree. If any of GU's year to year competition is going to get better I'd prefer it to be the WA teams we play. UW torching Nevada by 20 is good news in my book. I'd like to see GU play a better Cougar team too. We'll be playing Central WA a week from Thursday. It'd be fun if that game was competitive as well.

Exactly how I feel.

Zagceo
10-22-2018, 06:37 AM
Pepperdine is doooooomed.

bartruff1
10-22-2018, 07:38 AM
Respectfully disagree. If any of GU's year to year competition is going to get better I'd prefer it to be the WA teams we play. UW torching Nevada by 20 is good news in my book. I'd like to see GU play a better Cougar team too. We'll be playing Central WA a week from Thursday. It'd be fun if that game was competitive as well.

I said I was shocked, not disappointed ...in fact I am pleased....of course it is good news...

Zag365
10-22-2018, 07:54 AM
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/uw-huskies-crushes-nevada-in-second-half-for-91-73-exhibition-road-win/

zagamatic
10-22-2018, 09:24 AM
IIRC, isn't the new UW coach a branch off the Jim Boehime / Syracuse Zone coaching tree? Experienced teams have a hard time playing against that zone at the end of the season when everything is clicking. I'm not putting too much into a team that's never played together except a few weeks of practice getting drubbed

White lightning
10-22-2018, 10:06 AM
I mentioned Washington being a force to be reckoned with this season and most blew it off as another Pac 12 NIT level team. Teams may have a tough time with the zone but what about the offense they show. Putting up 90 isn't easy when slowing down the game with the zone.
IIRC, isn't the new UW coach a branch off the Jim Boehime / Syracuse Zone coaching tree? Experienced teams have a hard time playing against that zone at the end of the season when everything is clicking. I'm not putting too much into a team that's never played together except a few weeks of practice getting drubbed

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maynard g krebs
10-23-2018, 12:01 AM
I know playing the contrarian is kind of your thing but yes it was shocking because not only was the game in Reno but Washington beat them by 20 points and Nevada is a top 10 preseason team. In Seattle and a three or four point victory for Washington, not shocking. A 20 point blowout in Reno, shocking. Plus Noah Dickerson didn't even play, which makes it even more shocking.

At the time I posted, I wasn't aware of Dickerson, so that certainly makes it more surprising.

I wasn't trying to "play the contrarian". Just pointing out that Nevada is integrating six new players, while Washington returns their team intact. And they've had what, a week of practice? My point was that it often takes time for a bunch of new players to mesh. Washington is probably a lot closer to their ceiling at this point in the year than Nevada is.

Another factor is that a lot of teams struggle w/ that 2-3 zone, and more so w/ little practice time. UW beat Kansas at Kansas last year in the nonconference, and Kansas looked really befuddled.

Washington also, per today's paper, made 11 of 22 3's in that game, something they won't do often.
A little hot shooting w/ the easy 3 pt line can turn almost any game into a blowout.

DixieZag
10-23-2018, 05:48 AM
I mentioned Washington being a force to be reckoned with this season and most blew it off as another Pac 12 NIT level team. Teams may have a tough time with the zone but what about the offense they show. Putting up 90 isn't easy when slowing down the game with the zone.

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My sense is that most people here understand that UW will be much improved and competitive against us.

IMO the better the WA schools, the more benefit to us. Makes our schedule better and creates buzz.

It makes perfect sense that Nevada would struggle a couple weeks in with all the new faces. But, as noted, this Nevada team has projected to have FF talent.

Speaks to how well coached the UW is.

CDC84
10-23-2018, 08:33 AM
Andy Katz thinks UW is going to win the Pac 12. I expect them to be a NCAA tournament team.

I have always felt that Nevada is a bit overrated. Cincinnati was a better team who played like they hadn't played in the NCAA tournament and had any kind of success in it the past 2 gazillion years. I am a bit mistrustful of teams who make a living out of staging comebacks.

Zagceo
10-23-2018, 08:38 AM
I mentioned Washington being a force to be reckoned with this season and most blew it off as another Pac 12 NIT level team. Teams may have a tough time with the zone but what about the offense they show. Putting up 90 isn't easy when slowing down the game with the zone.

and funny how Zags put up 97 against UW in Seattle last year. )

White lightning
10-23-2018, 09:29 AM
and funny how Zags put up 97 against UW in Seattle last year. )Definitely not the same team as last year. Much more experience working with the zone and the 2nd year for Hopkins finding ways to utilize the talent on the team. I think the zags have the team to beat the zone but can't be cold shooting the three and taking quick shots. Rui and Tillie and Clarke are the key to breaking the zone.

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willandi
10-23-2018, 11:41 AM
While each coach wants to win in these secret scrimmages, we don't know what the coaches were working on. To proclaim the final score as the sole factor in deciding which team is better, that disregards the rest of the scrimmage.

I don't doubt UW will be a good team, probably better than last year and it COULD be a tough game for Gonzaga. We will have to see them in an actual game against a quality opponent before being able to make any true determination.

Reno also will be a tough opponent, but likewise, until they actually play in a real game against a legitimate opponent, no one will really know. As has been pointed out, Reno brought back the nucleus of last years team and added 6 (?) transfers, all of them the leading scorers off of their teams last year. That would be hard to integrate into a cohesive team right there. I suspect that is what they were focusing on.

bartruff1
10-23-2018, 11:46 AM
Will, I don't believe this was a secret scrimmage....it was a exhibition game and you can bet both teams were trying to win….Nevada got it handed to them... period ….no excuses..... for a team projected to be in the top ten...and giving up 52 points in the second half to a team without their best player...not good..

primal23
10-23-2018, 12:07 PM
Nevada has one of the worst defenses last year.


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willandi
10-23-2018, 12:59 PM
Will, I don't believe this was a secret scrimmage....it was a exhibition game and you can bet both teams were trying to win….Nevada got it handed to them... period ….no excuses..... for a team projected to be in the top ten...and giving up 52 points in the second half to a team without their best player...not good..

My bad. I just didn't expect an exhibition from 2 name schools this early.

LongIslandZagFan
10-23-2018, 01:02 PM
JMHO... I take all of the "Exhibition"/Secret Scrimmages with a grain of salt... big big grains of salt. Don't think it is a good assessment of either Nevada nor UW.

bartruff1
10-23-2018, 02:16 PM
I do...you can bet that if a top ten Gonzaga mbb team was playing a top 25 school from a power conference in the Kennel in front of a home crowd....they would be playing to win...exhibition or not....and if they had lost by 25 there would be a lot of shocked fans and media...

I suspect the poll voters will consider this the next time they vote...

IowaSERE
10-23-2018, 02:27 PM
I do...you can bet that if a top ten Gonzaga mbb team was playing a top 25 school from a power conference in the Kennel in front of a home crowd....they would be playing to win...exhibition or not....and if they had lost by 25 there would be a lot of shocked fans and media...

I suspect the poll voters will consider this the next time they vote...

I just don't see it.

If this was GU and Few wanted to see how Crandel can run the point, or Snacks, then that is what these are for. Play with the lineups. Did you see the part where the Nevada coach barely played his starters in the 2nd half and UW kept theirs in? Nevada didn't play this game to win. They have so many new pieces that they got a good sample of what works and what doesnt. UW pretty much knows what it has at this point, thus leaving in the starters.

ZagsGoZags
10-23-2018, 05:05 PM
Because I live in Seattle, since Romar left I have been following Hopkins and the Husky mens basketball. He was coach of the year in the Pac12 last season for a reason.
I will admit I think I warned the game with UW could find them surprisingly tough, and that warning turned out a false alarm. But they are back with same best players (like us except for Williams) , some recruiting to their style of play, and will be much more familiar with the complex defense Hopkins likes. I expect the game will be competitive, this year, and root for them when they don't play the zags.

LongIslandZagFan
10-23-2018, 05:41 PM
I just don't see it.

If this was GU and Few wanted to see how Crandel can run the point, or Snacks, then that is what these are for. Play with the lineups. Did you see the part where the Nevada coach barely played his starters in the 2nd half and UW kept theirs in? Nevada didn't play this game to win. They have so many new pieces that they got a good sample of what works and what doesnt. UW pretty much knows what it has at this point, thus leaving in the starters.

This.

GonzagasaurusFlex
10-23-2018, 05:49 PM
Because I live in Seattle, since Romar left I have been following Hopkins and the Husky mens basketball. He was coach of the year in the Pac12 last season for a reason.
I will admit I think I warned the game with UW could find them surprisingly tough, and that warning turned out a false alarm. But they are back with same best players (like us except for Williams) , some recruiting to their style of play, and will be much more familiar with the complex defense Hopkins likes. I expect the game will be competitive, this year, and root for them when they don't play the zags.

I’m a Hopkins fan since being born and raised in Syracuse NY and following his career as a player and assistant coach then coach in waiting there under Boeheim. Thrilled he is having success in his first head coaching gig and agree Huskies will be much better this year. Having said that, this year’s Zags are particularly well suited to crack the code on the 2-3 zone:
1) Great outside shooting (Perkins, Norvell, Tillie, Kispert, Crandall)
2) Athletic, quick, lengthy bigs who can take advantage of a zone’s Achilles heel: offensive boards (Clarke, Tillie, Rui)

RenoZag
10-23-2018, 06:34 PM
“I thought it was the worst home performance, whether it’s an exhibition or any form of competition, that we’ve played since I’ve been here,” Musselman said. “We have a lot of work to do between now and (the regular-season opener vs. BYU).

“Last year, we played an entire season where we did not lose by double-digits until the conference tournament; tonight, we lose by 18 at home and it’s the first time they’ve ever put a uniform on.”

“We might play zone,” said Musselman, whose teams are known for doing pretty much the opposite of that. “We just can’t guard anybody … we can’t guard people; we’re really bad, defensively. So it’s our job as a coaching staff to try to figure it out. Because our defense is abysmal.

“To me, I’ve got to go home and talk to my dog and ask him how we should play defense; maybe we’ll play a zone.”


How do you really feel, Coach ?

bartruff1
10-23-2018, 06:57 PM
How do you really feel, Coach ?

This...at least he found out what doesn't work....the offense …..the defense.....but it doesn't matter...his dog was happy to see him..

BYU must be looking forward to the game in Reno...Tuesday, Nov. 6th 8:00 PST on CBS...

Zagceo
10-23-2018, 07:01 PM
How do you really feel, Coach ?

expectorate everywhere

GonzagasaurusFlex
10-24-2018, 02:07 AM
How do you really feel, Coach ?

Love this quote from Musselman; itís funny and pretty sure the exhibition served itís purpose for him. He now has his team full of talent, preseason hype, high expectations and new players exactly where he needs them: humbled and receptive to coaching. Pretty sure they will be ready for BYU, very ready.

DixieZag
10-24-2018, 03:41 AM
This...at least he found out what doesn't work....the offense …..the defense.....but it doesn't matter...his dog was happy to see him..

BYU must be looking forward to the game in Reno...Tuesday, Nov. 6th 8:00 PST on CBS...


Can pretty much guarantee the dog will give him a look regarding should he zone; "Oh come on. Your guys just couldn't be bothered. Not my problem."

RenoZag
10-24-2018, 06:56 PM
Rex Walters arrival on the UNR staff is duly noted. . .

CDC84
10-25-2018, 10:41 AM
Some folks like Norlander are somehow forgetting that Nevada finished #108 in defensive efficiency last season at kenpom.com, and that was after the NCAA tournament run. Cincinnati's inept offense played a big part in allowing NV to make the 2nd round. In the words of one of Norlander's colleagues, "Nevada doesn't have one sure fire NBA player. To rank them as a preseason #1 team would be historically unprecedented." That was in reference to Norlander saying that Nevada was barely behind Kansas and GU in his preseason poll.

JoeysZag
10-26-2018, 08:23 AM
Not sure how Nevada will fare, but UW is flush with very good players who seem to love playing for their hyper-energetic and successful coach. The UW-GU game promises to be college basketball at its best.