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sittingon50
03-05-2018, 07:05 PM
Guess I'm pulling for SMC.

1. Less chance for bodily harm tomorrow night.

2. BYU would have fans there. SMC won't.


Hope they both beat the absolute crap out of each other tonight.

23dpg
03-05-2018, 07:08 PM
Guess I'm pulling for SMC.

1. Less chance for bodily harm tomorrow night.

2. BYU would have fans there. SMC won't.


Hope they both beat the absolute crap out of each other tonight.

Not sure who I’m rooting for. I guess SMC due to their higher ranking.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 07:12 PM
Looking forward to this game much more than Wyoming - San Jose state. Though I suppose others may disagree.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 07:13 PM
Guess I'm pulling for SMC.

1. Less chance for bodily harm tomorrow night.

2. BYU would have fans there. SMC won't.


Hope they both beat the absolute crap out of each other tonight.

SMC will have an interesting selection sunday if they lose this game.

I think it's more beneficial for us to beat the Gaels again, so I'll hope they win it.

Hoopaholic
03-05-2018, 07:15 PM
SMC will have an interesting selection sunday if they lose this game.

I think it's more beneficial for us to beat the Gaels again, so I'll hope they win it.

I don't think it will matter in the eyes of the committee

Zagceo
03-05-2018, 07:22 PM
Looking forward to this game much more than Wyoming - San Jose state. Though I suppose others may disagree.

ESPN gave no respect to Dons before game and proceeded to barely talked about the game during the game.


rumor .....Mike Roth sticking around in Vegas for games at the Thomas & Mack

ZagzKrak
03-05-2018, 07:23 PM
Guess I root for SMC....Zags only chance for another quad1 win if we beat them.

Nevada Don
03-05-2018, 07:30 PM
You guys play tonight?
WOW, again. Great performance.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 07:30 PM
ESPN gave no respect to Dons before game and proceeded to barely talked about the game during the game.


rumor .....Mike Roth sticking around in Vegas for games at the Thomas & Mack

Talking about a non zags game here.

You think it's hyped so much more if we were playing Fresno State on CBSSN?

Anyway, if Roth feels it's best for the Zags to move I'd support the move whole heartedly, hopefully others will support the decision if we stay with the WCC.

ZagNative
03-05-2018, 07:31 PM
You guys play tonight?
WOW, again. Great performance.Hey, Don! Good luck!

Live stats for SMC/BYU: http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?tournament=208

Zagceo
03-05-2018, 07:35 PM
Talking about a non zags game here.

You think it's hyped so much more if we were playing Fresno State on CBSSN?

Anyway, if Roth feels it's best for the Zags to move I'd support the move whole heartedly, hopefully others will support the decision if we stay with the WCC.

should be moved to WCC forum

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 07:38 PM
should be moved to WCC forum

Yeah, Game has no implications on the Zags at all, move all of those "other games" threads too?

:clap:

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 07:40 PM
Looking forward to this game much more than Wyoming - San Jose state. Though I suppose others may disagree.

Is that the MWC 2 vs 3 semi final?

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 07:42 PM
ESPN gave no respect to Dons before game and proceeded to barely talked about the game during the game.


rumor .....Mike Roth sticking around in Vegas for games at the Thomas & Mack

Did you make that up, or is it for real?

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 07:43 PM
Is that the MWC 2 vs 3 semi final?

Rather watch it than Boise State-New Mexico too.

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 07:43 PM
BYU has gone to Worthington 3 times on the block looking to make Landale work and put fouls on him

BYU doubling off the post defender off the Landale bounce

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 07:45 PM
Rather watch it than Boise State-New Mexico too.

Well, you're biased, your team plays the winner.

sittingon50
03-05-2018, 07:46 PM
should be moved to WCC forum


:roll:

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 07:46 PM
SMC with another slow start... gonna be tougher to deal with it this time than against pepperdine.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 07:47 PM
Well, you're biased, your team plays the winner.

...and both the WCC schools play a more exciting brand of basketball and have stronger histories.

Zagdawg
03-05-2018, 07:47 PM
Hope they go triple overtime --then we get the Gaels for a another Q1 win.

ZagsObserver
03-05-2018, 07:49 PM
Feel bad for Landale. He’s a great player, but since the gaels don’t have a lot of other consistent weapons, he gets brutalized and the gaels can’t make the opponent pay for it. Thus, Landale gets no relief.

Gonzdb8
03-05-2018, 07:51 PM
Looks like church ball man is starting to hit his 3s. Could be a long night for BYU if those start going down with regularity.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 07:52 PM
Looks like church ball man is starting to hit his 3s. Could be a long night for BYU if those start going down with regularity.

He needs to, or else everyone just doubles down on Jock.

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 07:53 PM
...and both the WCC schools play a more exciting brand of basketball and have stronger histories.

And the rest of the conference is trash. UNLV, SDSU, Nevada, New Mexico, Fresno State, Boise, etc is superior to our current conference foes. IF you're a Zags fan why would you not want them to play better opponents? I just don't understand where your fear comes from.

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 07:54 PM
SMC 6-12 with no attempts from Landale. not bad

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 07:54 PM
And the rest of the conference is trash. UNLV, SDSU, Nevada, New Mexico, Fresno State, Boise, etc is superior to our current conference foes. IF you're a Zags fan why would you not want them to play better opponents? I just don't understand where your fear comes from.

Wrong thread.

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 07:56 PM
Wrong thread.

My bad, I shouldn't have posted this:

Looking forward to this game much more than Wyoming - San Jose state. Though I suppose others may disagree.

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 07:56 PM
Landale pushes a lot defending, with 2 hands, finally whistled

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 07:59 PM
My bad, I shouldn't have posted this:

Looking forward to this game much more than Wyoming - San Jose state. Though I suppose others may disagree.

Commenting on how I was looking forward to the game.

Zagceo
03-05-2018, 07:59 PM
Wrong thread.

can dish it...but can’t take it:lmao:

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:00 PM
Landale pushes a lot defending, with 2 hands, finally whistled

I remember it took till Karno's Sr year for him to be given some leyway in that regard too.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:01 PM
can dish it...but can’t take it:lmao:

Dish what? You guys seriously are taking this far too personally. If we don't move I suspect you will be insufferable.

We have a 25 page thread to debate the conference change. Lets keep this one to this game eh?

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 08:03 PM
I remember it took till Karno's Sr year for him to be given some leyway in that regard too.

seems like Landale pushes a lot, maybe I'm just looking for it too closely, idk
Karno finally got respect, agreed

Zagceo
03-05-2018, 08:04 PM
Dish what? You guys seriously are taking this far too personally. If we don't move I suspect you will be insufferable.

fans aren’t the ones giving interviews talking about it...

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 08:05 PM
boom, another foul, for pushing off the ball

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:06 PM
fans aren’t the ones giving interviews talking about it...

I remember when we played Villanova/Creighton the talking heads discussing how there was some mutual interest between the Zags and the Big East too.

Game gonna get interesting with Jock in foul trouble

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 08:06 PM
my bad, not Landale's foul the last one, but he does get one for pushing Childs in the back rebounding

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:09 PM
BYU fans certainly louder than SMC fans.. or is that our people cheering them on too?

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 08:09 PM
Game gonna get interesting with Jock in foul trouble

back to back turnovers leads to 4 BYU points, time out Bennett

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 08:10 PM
did not wait for the under 4, burned one

DixieZag
03-05-2018, 08:10 PM
Can we have one thread that is just the game?

It's actually a pretty good game BTW.

BYU could actually win this game if not for the fact that Randy absolutely owns BYU.

If BYU hadn't ruined senior night 2-3 years running, they'd have precious little to show for their WCC experience.

Good game, though. Hope for 3 OT and 4 players on each side fouling out.

DixieZag
03-05-2018, 08:11 PM
back to back turnovers leads to 4 BYU points, time out Bennett

Appreciate your insights btw

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:12 PM
Can we have one thread that is just the game?

It's actually a pretty good game BTW.

BYU could actually win this game if not for the fact that Randy absolutely owns BYU.

If BYU hadn't ruined senior night 2-3 years running, they'd have precious little to show for their WCC experience.

Good game, though. Hope for 3 OT and 4 players on each side fouling out.

Why not a bench clearing brawl with a bunch of next game suspensions too? hah

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 08:12 PM
Dish what? You guys seriously are taking this far too personally. If we don't move I suspect you will be insufferable.

We have a 25 page thread to debate the conference change. Lets keep this one to this game eh?

The point is that you started it and then pouted like a baby when it was given back to you.

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 08:14 PM
Appreciate your insights btw

:cheers:

Bennett felt the pressure, gambled and brought Jock back in...foul #3

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:14 PM
Jock picks up his 3rd. That's huge.

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 08:14 PM
As I've said all season, SMC is horrendously unathletic. You know you're unathletic when a team of balding, married 33 year olds with 4 kids are more athletic than you

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:14 PM
The point is that you started it and then pouted like a baby when it was given back to you.

I'm not pouting, I'm trying to enjoy the game. Go back to watching Airforce.

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 08:14 PM
Jock picks up his 3rd. That's huge.

Bennett really folded there imo, in a tie game, first half, and still brings Jock back in
panicky a little?

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:15 PM
Not sure that was a charge.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:16 PM
Bennett really folded there imo, in a tie game, first half, and still brings Jock back in
panicky a little?

Yeah, I suspect he didn't like the way the momentum was shifting... disaster as a result of the kneejerk reaction though.

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 08:16 PM
I'm not pouting, I'm trying to enjoy the game. Go back to watching Airforce.

No interest in that game, we play the winner of this one

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:17 PM
Now, does Randy start Jock in the second half?

Going to have to roll the dice now right?

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 08:17 PM
*MAM beating SMC at the half























































































* Middle Aged Men

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:17 PM
No interest in that game, we play the winner of this one

I'm happy to continue the conference discussion with you in the other thread if you feel it needs to continue.

Lets keep this thread to this game.

Zagceo
03-05-2018, 08:18 PM
As I've said all season, SMC is horrendously unathletic. You know you're unathletic when a team of balding, married 33 year olds with 4 kids are more athletic than you

thats really funny

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 08:18 PM
Now, does Randy start Jock in the second half?

Going to have to roll the dice now right?

I would bet yes; if he was willing to risk it in the first half, all in for the second half. we'll see

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:20 PM
I would bet yes; if he was willing to risk it in the first half, all in for the second half. we'll see

And obviously BYU tries to slash to the rim over and over.

I still am not sure if it benefits us to play BYU at all... but it'd tough to root for SMC at all.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:21 PM
Did Jay Williams just say he thought Gonzaga had the best front court in the nation?

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 08:22 PM
And obviously BYU tries to slash to the rim over and over.

I still am not sure if it benefits us to play BYU at all... but it'd tough to root for SMC at all.

I can't root for either but BYU is top of the 'I can't stand them' list

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 08:34 PM
I'm happy to continue the conference discussion with you in the other thread if you feel it needs to continue.

Lets keep this thread to this game.

Are you daft? You told me to go watch Air Force, you did.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:36 PM
Gaels looking lost right now.

23dpg
03-05-2018, 08:37 PM
Win or lose, smc seems to be trending in the wrong direction.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:39 PM
Win or lose, smc seems to be trending in the wrong direction.

They definitely don't seem to resemble the team that beat us in Spokane.

DixieZag
03-05-2018, 08:40 PM
Did Jay Williams just say he thought Gonzaga had the best front court in the nation?

It's not that crazy a quote when they played like they did tonight. Granted, they don't all show up like they did tonight in every game. Still ....

JWIII, Rui, Tillie? That is formidable.

Damn, is BYU going to finally clip SMC?

I wonder if SMC would make the tourney if they lose to BYU? Dayton bound?

Randy just owns BYU, more than us. Bet he pulls it out.

I wonder if Jock actually fouls that much or has the reputation nowadays? He doesn't seem that wild to me, yet there he is, always.

TexasZagFan
03-05-2018, 08:40 PM
Yeah, I suspect he didn't like the way the momentum was shifting... disaster as a result of the kneejerk reaction though.

Randy’s not prone to coach like that in California.

bballbeachbum
03-05-2018, 08:41 PM
I'm out. see you all tomorrow
Go Zags

DixieZag
03-05-2018, 08:41 PM
They definitely don't seem to resemble the team that beat us in Spokane.

They are 2 different teams if they are hitting 3s. If not, Jock alone can't beat people.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:41 PM
It's not that crazy a quote when they played like they did tonight. Granted, they don't all show up like they did tonight in every game. Still ....

JWIII, Rui, Tillie? That is formidable.

Damn, is BYU going to finally clip SMC?

I wonder if SMC would make the tourney if they lose to BYU? Dayton bound?

Randy just owns BYU, more than us. Bet he pulls it out.

I wonder if Jock actually fouls that much or has the reputation nowadays? He doesn't seem that wild to me, yet there he is, always.

I suspect they dont make it if they lose tonight... Randy still won't learn to schedule tougher.

LMUZAG
03-05-2018, 08:42 PM
smc went from unbeatable after the zag victory to vulnerable in scary fashion


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Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 08:42 PM
Flava Flav a big BYU fan?

TexasZagFan
03-05-2018, 08:44 PM
It’s pretty bad when the camera pans to a washed up rapper who hasn’t been relevant since Santa Clara made the Dance.

LMUZAG
03-05-2018, 08:45 PM
Being conflicted on who I would rather see the Zags face in the finals, I find myself watching with a more neutral eye. Honestly BYU scares me more when they are hot. Never thought I would say that midway through conference.


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DixieZag
03-05-2018, 08:46 PM
Is BYU actually playing defense?

They look like it. Really running out on the 3.

DixieZag
03-05-2018, 08:47 PM
Being conflicted on who I would rather see the Zags face in the finals, I find myself watching with a more neutral eye. Honestly BYU scares me more when they are hot. Never thought I would say that midway through conference.


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Great post. I think you're right.

BYU has no fear of us, nothing to lose.

23dpg
03-05-2018, 08:47 PM
Is BYU actually playing defense?

They look like it. Really running out on the 3.

BYU plays decent defense this year.
I’m finding myself pulling for BYU. Not sure why. I think I just love the underdog.

DixieZag
03-05-2018, 08:50 PM
Damn, SMC just clawed back had it within one, and just like that BYU stretches out to probable 9 pt lead.

Maybe tonight is the night BYU FINALLY beats SMC.

Does anyone else think SMC just looks tired?? They look worn down.

TexasZagFan
03-05-2018, 08:51 PM
BYU plays decent defense this year.
I’m finding myself pulling for BYU. Not sure why. I think I just love the underdog.

I am unable to root for either team, except during the Dance.

23dpg
03-05-2018, 08:51 PM
Damn, SMC just clawed back had it within one, and just like that BYU stretches out to probable 9 pt lead.

Maybe tonight is the night BYU FINALLY beats SMC.

Does anyone else think SMC just looks tired?? They look worn down.

They haven’t looked great in a while.
Bryant is doing a good job of defending Landale.

jpn17
03-05-2018, 08:51 PM
smc went from unbeatable after the zag victory to vulnerable in scary fashion


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Gonzaga showed the WCC how to beat the Gaels last month and Saint Mary's has not been able to adapt. They haven't been close to the same team since the Gonzaga loss.

DixieZag
03-05-2018, 08:52 PM
BYU plays decent defense this year.
I’m finding myself pulling for BYU. Not sure why. I think I just love the underdog.

I see that.

The only thing that makes me hold back (bc I don't want Randy's "beat the Zags once and go to the tourney" strategy rewarded) is that I genuinely fear injury every time we play BYU, and you know they will go full out "nothing to lose" if we play them in the final, and it will be a hackfest referee game where we worry about Rui or JWIII getting clipped underneath or something.

SMC plays clean except for the pic, but no one gets hurt.

DixieZag
03-05-2018, 08:54 PM
What a STUPID foul on Jock!!

C'mon man, you're supposed to be the best player in the conf! How could you make THAT your 4th?

jpn17
03-05-2018, 08:55 PM
Hermanson can't buy a 3 in the second half.

TexasZagFan
03-05-2018, 08:56 PM
What a STUPID foul on Jock!!

C'mon man, you're supposed to be the best player in the conf! How could you make THAT your 4th?

Exhausted mentally and physically. BYU up 10, 7 to go.

willandi
03-05-2018, 08:57 PM
7 minutes left and Jock with 14 and no boards!

DixieZag
03-05-2018, 08:57 PM
Wow.

I didn't see this coming, though I guess the signs were there.

SMC has to be hoping for Dayton at this point.

Zagceo
03-05-2018, 08:57 PM
SMC lucky to get by Pepperdine....let’s see if refs help SMC get back into

zagsfanforlife
03-05-2018, 08:58 PM
Saint Marys isnt a tournament team. Got lucky and beat us.. havent beaten anyone else.. lost to some crappy teams.. dont pass the eye test. Weak.

willandi
03-05-2018, 08:58 PM
Saint Marys isnt a tournament team. Got lucky and beat us.. havent beaten anyone else.. lost to some crappy teams.. dont pass the eye test. Weak.

Just wait until NEXT year!

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 08:59 PM
Childs has the body of a retired insurance salesman but uses said body quite well.

TexasZagFan
03-05-2018, 08:59 PM
SMC lucky to get by Pepperdine....let’s see if refs help SMC get back into

Good TO by Bennett. His team is gassed, and losing composure.

Coach Crazy
03-05-2018, 08:59 PM
Gonzaga showed the WCC how to beat the Gaels last month and Saint Mary's has not been able to adapt. They haven't been close to the same team since the Gonzaga loss.

This.

zagsfanforlife
03-05-2018, 09:00 PM
NIT bound.

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 09:01 PM
A lot of respect for Caron Butler, was in juvey as a teenager for breaking into cars and turned his life around. Good for him.

zagsfanforlife
03-05-2018, 09:02 PM
A lot of respect for Caron Butler, was in juvey as a teenager for breaking into cars and turned his life around. Good for him.

He credits a lot of his turnaround on Max Good.. former LMU coach.

hooter73
03-05-2018, 09:02 PM
We exposed SMC and like in prior years, they are stinking exhausted by end of league play. They could win tonight and my money would still go to them going to the nit

23dpg
03-05-2018, 09:03 PM
If the Gaels lose this I still think they get in. But I would t want to be them on selection Sunday sweating it out.

23dpg
03-05-2018, 09:07 PM
That should have been 5 on Jock.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 09:07 PM
Lets go OT!

Coach Crazy
03-05-2018, 09:08 PM
Losers gonna lose...

DixieZag
03-05-2018, 09:09 PM
He credits a lot of his turnaround on Max Good.. former LMU coach.

Max is a great man. Everyone really liked him, including Zag fans at the Kennel.

TexasZagFan
03-05-2018, 09:09 PM
Definitely doing a watch party at Twin Peaks tomorrow night. There won’t be any BYU fans within 5 miles of the place.

TexasZagFan
03-05-2018, 09:12 PM
That should have been 5 on Jock.

Yup

23dpg
03-05-2018, 09:14 PM
Ball game

jpn17
03-05-2018, 09:15 PM
Looks like BYU is gonna pull this off. Landale should have fouled out twice now.

ZagAddict
03-05-2018, 09:15 PM
BYU showing why SMC is not a NCAA Tourney team. They just don't play a schedule to justify going to the NCAA Tournament if they don't make it to the finals of the WCC Championship Tournament. Their marquee win is on the road against GU, but New Mexico State is the only other notable win. The WCC was just not a competitive enough conference this year, and SMC didn't get any important wins out of conference. That's where I stand... I like numerous teams representing the WCC come March in the NCAA Tournament, but SMC just isn't worthy this year.

TexasZagFan
03-05-2018, 09:15 PM
Ball game

Yup

Coach Crazy
03-05-2018, 09:15 PM
Now, put the icing on the cake and announce that BYU and GU are leaving the conference. That way SMC can finally be the big man on campus.

ZagAddict
03-05-2018, 09:16 PM
+1... serious obvious fouls too.

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-05-2018, 09:16 PM
Game over, NIT for SMC... Hope the zags come out hard and remember that home loss that killed our perfect season last year.

thespywhozaggedme
03-05-2018, 09:16 PM
Childs is only 33 and already has man boobs. Man boobs or not, he's played great tonight.

mtzaga
03-05-2018, 09:16 PM
SMC is NIT bound.

jpn17
03-05-2018, 09:17 PM
BYU showing why SMC is not a NCAA Tourney team. They just don't play a schedule to justify going to the NCAA Tournament if they don't make it to the finals of the WCC Championship Tournament. Their marquee win is on the road against GU, but New Mexico State is the only other notable win. The WCC was just not a competitive enough conference this year, and SMC didn't get any important wins out of conference. That's where I stand... I like numerous teams representing the WCC come March in the NCAA Tournament, but SMC just isn't worthy this year.

They very rarely are worthy of representing the WCC. And I agree, I wouldn't put them in the tournament this year either. Bennett NEEDS to change his OOC strategy.

TexasZagFan
03-05-2018, 09:17 PM
IMHO, SMC had to win this game. There will be too many upsets in the P5 tournaments this week.

zagzilla
03-05-2018, 09:19 PM
Jock fouls out after committing his 7th

jpn17
03-05-2018, 09:20 PM
And Bennett does the patented handshake blow by to Dave Rose too.

Coach Crazy
03-05-2018, 09:20 PM
Jock fouls out after committing his 7th

Money.

TexasZagFan
03-05-2018, 09:20 PM
Bennett with the blow by...classless.

Coach Crazy
03-05-2018, 09:21 PM
And Bennett does the patented handshake blow by to Dave Rose too.

He doesn't have much time to prep for his first round NIT game. Gotta get a head start.

zagsfanforlife
03-05-2018, 09:21 PM
IMHO, SMC had to win this game. There will be too many upsets in the P5 tournaments this week.

Exactly

zagzilla
03-05-2018, 09:21 PM
Typical Randy Bennett blow by non-handshake after he loses. NIT bound

jpn17
03-05-2018, 09:25 PM
He doesn't have much time to prep for his first round NIT game. Gotta get a head start.

:roll:

surfmonkey89
03-05-2018, 09:26 PM
Tonight I drink from a chalice of sweet, sweet Gael tears.

ZagAddict
03-05-2018, 09:26 PM
They very rarely are worthy of representing the WCC. And I agree, I wouldn't put them in the tournament this year either. Bennett NEEDS to change his OOC strategy.

A close loss to BYU would have kept them in discussion for a play-in game, but a 13 point defeat in the semi-finals of a weak WCC isn't going to keep you in the final field for the NCAA Tournament. I'm sure it will provide for drama on Selection Sunday because they've been a ranked team all season, but SMC benefits from not playing anyone during the non-conference schedule and putting all their chips on the table to beat the Zags. Key loses will be their resume highlights (WSU, USF - all above 100 RPI) rather than wins (GU on the road, New Mexico State).

zagsfanforlife
03-05-2018, 09:27 PM
The tourney committee does all they can to limit the at larges from Mid Majors... St Marys was left out a few years ago with a better squad than this years team with better wins.. dont see them getting in. And after watching them a few times this past month, i am not sure they deserve to be there. Landale for a senior cant stay out of foul trouble to save his life, and when he gets doubled, the shooters cant knock down the open shot.

Very very dissapointing year from them. They lost Rahon who was a good player, but with Naar, Jock and Hermanson as seniors you would have thought they would have been lethal this year. Instead they were a decent mid major team. Underperforming.

DixieZag
03-05-2018, 09:33 PM
I'm kind of bummed mostly because the "SMC v. GU best rivalry in the west" meme is good for us, especially this year when our quality wins were kind of few and far between.

The first game in Spokane was as good a basketball game as I've seen. Of course, they were really stroking the 3s that game.

I thought they looked simply worn down in this game, tired, and that makes no sense given they've not played a taxing schedule, their bench should've gotten plenty of minutes.

No denying that SMC is going the exact wrong direction right now. I still hope they get in.

SanDiegoZag
03-05-2018, 09:36 PM
I think they should still get in, but maybe they want to reach out to every team in the Big 10, and see if they are interested in hosting the Gaels on Saturday on short notice.

ZagOD7540
03-05-2018, 09:38 PM
Saint Marys isnt a tournament team. Got lucky and beat us.. havent beaten anyone else.. lost to some crappy teams.. dont pass the eye test. Weak.


Bingo!! Laughing at Bennett’s handshake once again. I only thought he blew by Coach Few? If Nevada Don is out there, I would like that meeting that you said you could set up earlier in the season with Bennett and the team. Enjoy the NIT...go get ‘em

Zagceo
03-05-2018, 09:39 PM
Teams like SMC that lack athletic players have narrow margin for error

BYU played like a MWC team tonight ...joke for Kong

DixieZag
03-05-2018, 09:42 PM
Bingo!! Laughing at Bennett’s handshake once again. I only thought he blew by Coach Few? If Nevada Don is out there, I would like that meeting that you said you could set up earlier in the season with Bennett and the team. Enjoy the NIT...go get ‘em

The Gaels that come here are pretty good people, I don't see the value in rubbing it in or being combative.

sittingon50
03-05-2018, 09:48 PM
The Gaels that come here are pretty good people, I don't see the value in rubbing it in or being combative.

Agreed. At least they aren't bush league (exception = Randy handshakes), like the team the Zags will see tomorrow night.

zagsfanforlife
03-05-2018, 09:48 PM
The Gaels that come here are pretty good people, I don't see the value in rubbing it in or being combative.

I like SMC. Root for them in the tournament every year. Always will root for the WCC. Just dont think they look like a tournament team and have been sadly dissapointed in them for most of the year.

willandi
03-05-2018, 09:48 PM
The Gaels that come here are pretty good people, I don't see the value in rubbing it in or being combative.

Totally agree. If you aren't big enough to leave the insults at home, be man enough to not bring it up.

Ezag
03-05-2018, 09:54 PM
SMC meet the NIT

CDC84
03-05-2018, 09:55 PM
Randy's team just hasn't been the same since Gonzaga broke the big winning streak and blasted them in Moraga. The loss at USF was very revealing. I mean, think of how badly Gonzaga trashed USF tonight......

I would be surprised if SMC doesn't get in. They might get assigned one of the play in games, however.

There was no real talk of them not making the tourney tonight if they lost to BYU (to my knowledge). If they had lost to Pacific last night, it could've been a disaster.

katman50
03-05-2018, 10:00 PM
The Gaels that come here are pretty good people, I don't see the value in rubbing it in or being combative.

I agree. Was at the game tonight. I think Landale, Hermanson and Narr have all been class players. I was sorry they lost. Have always enjoyed the rivalry. And I have always liked Bennett. He could have gone and coached at a more high profile school but for some reason he has preferred to stay at St Mary's.

ZagAddict
03-05-2018, 10:00 PM
SMC loss to BYU fallout:
1) SMC drop in RPI (potentially out of the top 50) = one less win for GU against top 50 RPI team
2) GU doesn't get another opportunity to beat a top 50 RPI team to improve their NCAA Tournament resume

GU wanted to face SMC in the final to continue to pad their NCAA Tournament resume... even with a win over BYU that #5 seed may be reality.

Ezag
03-05-2018, 10:06 PM
Since we beat SMC, they have barely scrapped by against poor teams, almost lost last night to possibly the worst team in the WCC and then got blasted tonight by an average team at best, BYU. Naar appears to be hurt and if you can shut down Landale, that is about it. They are not a tourney team at this point in the season.

CDC84
03-05-2018, 10:08 PM
If GU gets a #5, which I will grant is certainly possible, a #4 seed is going to be PISSED. Gonzaga, along with MSU, is one of only 3 teams in the nation w/ offensive and defensive efficiencies in the top 20 at Pomeroy. That is not indicative of a 5 seed. I don't care what their RPI is.

Zagineer
03-05-2018, 10:54 PM
The Gaels that come here are pretty good people, I don't see the value in rubbing it in or being combative.

Agreed. And it's not just the Gaels that post on GU Boards. It's the many Gael fans that I've met at The Orleans over the years during the WCC Tournaments. Every Gael that I have spoken to (mostly people of my generation) have nothing but admiration and respect for GU. And,..... notwithstanding Omar,......... there is not a Gael that I do not respect. Many of them have been a royal pain to us on the court, but I still respect them.

basketballzag
03-06-2018, 02:27 AM
Agreed. And it's not just the Gaels that post on GU Boards. It's the many Gael fans that I've met at The Orleans over the years during the WCC Tournaments. Every Gael that I have spoken to (mostly people of my generation) have nothing but admiration and respect for GU. And,..... notwithstanding Omar,......... there is not a Gael that I do not respect. Many of them have been a royal pain to us on the court, but I still respect them.

I wonder if Few has contemplated the effects of sand bagging the conference championship to get a higher seed if we are destined for a 5. Roll the dice lose to BYU and get a 7 seed. It would totally screw up the NCAA seeding and cause some real animosity for low seeded teams who face us in the 1 and 2 rounds.

GonzagasaurusFlex
03-06-2018, 02:44 AM
Randy's team just hasn't been the same since Gonzaga broke the big winning streak and blasted them in Moraga. The loss at USF was very revealing. I mean, think of how badly Gonzaga trashed USF tonight......

I would be surprised if SMC doesn't get in. They might get assigned one of the play in games, however.

There was no real talk of them not making the tourney tonight if they lost to BYU (to my knowledge). If they had lost to Pacific last night, it could've been a disaster.

So true. Zags defeat of Gaels in Moraga not only prevented them from attaining their first Top 10 ranking in school history, it seems to have shattered their confidence. They are a shell of themselves since that game, but I’m rooting for them to get into the Dance and win a couple games. If they get in, they better use this week before the play-in games to get their mojo back.

caduceus
03-06-2018, 02:46 AM
I wonder if Few has contemplated the effects of sand bagging the conference championship to get a higher seed if we are destined for a 5. Roll the dice lose to BYU and get a 7 seed. It would totally screw up the NCAA seeding and cause some real animosity for low seeded teams who face us in the 1 and 2 rounds.

Interesting thought. I'll bet he has. Would love to see the Zags buzzsaw through the tournament with a crappy seed. Wouldn't that be something!? BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! A 16-seed that beats a 1 becomes the one-seed in the bracket!

CarolinaZagFan
03-06-2018, 04:40 AM
Would’ve been better for the Zags if SMC had won, but oh well I love seeing “Handsy” Randy Bennett lose.

75Zag
03-06-2018, 05:03 AM
Good luck to SMC. I think they will make the Tournament, but with the new emphasis on numerical ratings this year, I am not so sure.

Go Bulldogs!

Hoopaholic
03-06-2018, 05:07 AM
Would’ve been better for the Zags if SMC had won, but oh well I love seeing “Handsy” Randy Bennett lose.

Why?
A win against byu today will be a quadrant 1 win

VinnyZag
03-06-2018, 05:11 AM
If GU gets a #5, which I will grant is certainly possible, a #4 seed is going to be PISSED. Gonzaga, along with MSU, is one of only 3 teams in the nation w/ offensive and defensive efficiencies in the top 20 at Pomeroy. That is not indicative of a 5 seed. I don't care what their RPI is.

And Duke now. Their defensive efficiency is all the way down to No. 10 since committing to the zone.

GrizZAG
03-06-2018, 05:12 AM
SMC had an off night no question. Hermanson especially and Jock just wasn't himself for some reason. I think GU shutting him down so resoundingly impacted his confidence. Not the same player since.
They just looked so off.

SMC is a great rival and a class program minus Omar and the Bennet blow byes. I like their people and players.
BYU is another story.

mgadfly
03-06-2018, 05:18 AM
Why?
A win against byu today will be a quadrant 1 win

No it won't. A Quadrant 1 win is against the Top 50 RPI at a neutral site. BYU is #81. That's a Quadrant 2 win or loss today.

Hoopaholic
03-06-2018, 05:24 AM
No it won't. A Quadrant 1 win is against the Top 50 RPI at a neutral site. BYU is #81. That's a Quadrant 2 win or loss today.

Ahhh. They are 67 this morning but thanks on the q1 neutral

ZagsObserver
03-06-2018, 05:24 AM
The Gaels that come here are pretty good people, I don't see the value in rubbing it in or being combative.

Agreed. And I think they are a good team. They just didn’t quite figure it out when Landale was doubled. Feel bad for Jock, actually.

They should be in.

GoZags
03-06-2018, 05:28 AM
No it won't. A Quadrant 1 win is against the Top 50 RPI at a neutral site. BYU is #81. That's a Quadrant 2 win or loss today.

BYU jumped 14 spots and is now in Quadrant 1 at #67. That's huge as suddenly the Zags have 6 Quandrant 1 wins vs 4 Quadrant 1 wins (with a shot at #7 tonight). SMC dropped to 43 ... no big deal.

RPI wise .... last night's BYU win was the best thing that could have happened for Gonzaga.

mgadfly
03-06-2018, 05:29 AM
Ahhh. They are 67 this morning but thanks on the q1 neutral

Was just coming back here when it updated. If they beat GU, they might scratch into the top 50 and give us a Q1 loss.

willandi
03-06-2018, 05:29 AM
Lunardi has SMC as a 10 this morning.

If they get in as a 10, they could do some damage, if Jock and the others get their mojo back.

mgadfly
03-06-2018, 05:29 AM
BYU jumped 14 spots and is now in Quadrant 1 at #67. That's huge as suddenly the Zags have 6 Quandrant 1 wins vs 4 Quadrant 1 wins (with a shot at #7 tonight). SMC dropped to 43 ... no big deal.

RPI wise .... last night's BYU win was the best thing that could have happened for Gonzaga.

Only our road victory is Q1. The tourney win would still be Q2 unless losing to GU allowed them to move up another 17 spots.

thespywhozaggedme
03-06-2018, 05:31 AM
Lunardi has SMC as a 10 this morning.

If they get in as a 10, they could do some damage, if Jock and the others get their mojo back.

Disagree completely. As I've said all season they are shockingly unathletic. When a team full of balding, married 33 year old men with 4 kids is more athletic than you, you're in trouble.

gonstu
03-06-2018, 05:31 AM
BYU jumped 14 spots and is now in Quadrant 1 at #67. That's huge as suddenly the Zags have 6 Quandrant 1 wins vs 4 Quadrant 1 wins (with a shot at #7 tonight). SMC dropped to 43 ... no big deal.

RPI wise .... last night's BYU win was the best thing that could have happened for Gonzaga.

Serious question: is it better for Zags resume to LOSE tonight than to win!?!

Hoopaholic
03-06-2018, 05:39 AM
Was just coming back here when it updated. If they beat GU, they might scratch into the top 50 and give us a Q1 loss.

But q1 losses don't matter apparently but our road win at byu now gives us another q1 win. Though we could have had a q1 neutral win if we played SMC

A wash basically

ZagsObserver
03-06-2018, 05:47 AM
But q1 losses don't matter apparently but our road win at byu now gives us another q1 win. Though we could have had a q1 neutral win if we played SMC

A wash basically

Yep. That’s how i see it. However, if we lose you can play the “what if” game, and I would prefer to lose to SMC than BYU.

Zagnificent
03-06-2018, 05:51 AM
Definitely doing a watch party at Twin Peaks tomorrow night. There won’t be any BYU fans within 5 miles of the place.

This is brilliant. I have one of those near my place in Austin, TX. I didn't know what sort of restaurant it was until I walked in the door. Girlfriend was not amused.

thespywhozaggedme
03-06-2018, 06:09 AM
This is brilliant. I have one of those near my place in Austin, TX. I didn't know what sort of restaurant it was until I walked in the door. Girlfriend was not amused.

Lumberjack themed hooters with even worse food, if that's possible.

TexasZagFan
03-06-2018, 07:10 AM
Lumberjack themed hooters with even worse food, if that's possible.

The beer is ice cold, and their venison chili is quite good.

To each his own.

If your g/f wasn't amused, she'd be really unhappy during Valentines Week, when the wait staff wears lingerie the entire week. I was unaware of that, and I will admit I was taken aback. No one seemed to be complaining, though. There was one difference to the regular weeks: a couple of local policemen were at the door, just in case some guests got too fresh.

Zagnificent
03-06-2018, 07:30 AM
The beer is ice cold, and their venison chili is quite good.

To each his own.

If your g/f wasn't amused, she'd be really unhappy during Valentines Week, when the wait staff wears lingerie the entire week. I was unaware of that, and I will admit I was taken aback. No one seemed to be complaining, though. There was one difference to the regular weeks: a couple of local policemen were at the door, just in case some guests got too fresh.

I'll give them that. The beer was ice cold. Food was fine, certainly better than your local Applebee's or Chili's. Sorry to detail the conversation.

I expected St Mary's to lose last night. I really think it's a coin flip whether they dance or not. That loss to USF does not look good, and in my opinion is a counterbalance to their only good win (@Zags)

thespywhozaggedme
03-06-2018, 07:35 AM
The beer is ice cold, and their venison chili is quite good.

To each his own.

If your g/f wasn't amused, she'd be really unhappy during Valentines Week, when the wait staff wears lingerie the entire week. I was unaware of that, and I will admit I was taken aback. No one seemed to be complaining, though. There was one difference to the regular weeks: a couple of local policemen were at the door, just in case some guests got too fresh.

I think you're confusing me with zagnificient, my girlfriend has been my wife for 15 years and neither of us has ever set foot in twin Peaks.

sittingon50
03-06-2018, 10:35 AM
Serious question: is it better for Zags resume to LOSE tonight than to win!?!

Might have to give Mark Cuban a call to sort it out.

mgadfly
03-06-2018, 01:18 PM
Yep. That’s how i see it. However, if we lose you can play the “what if” game, and I would prefer to lose to SMC than BYU.

But if we beat BYU that drops them from #67 closer to #76 (reducing our win at BYU to a Quad 2 win again).

ZagsObserver
03-06-2018, 01:24 PM
But if we beat BYU that drops them from #67 closer to #76 (reducing our win at BYU to a Quad 2 win again).

I didn’t realize the drop would be that significant. Well, there goes that.

Zagceo
03-06-2018, 01:27 PM
I didn’t realize the drop would be that significant. Well, there goes that.

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sideshow06
03-06-2018, 07:07 PM
So by losing to BYU, SMC actually gained a Q1 win (over BYU in Provo earlier in the season). Gotta love statistics.

TexasZagFan
03-06-2018, 07:10 PM
So by losing to BYU, SMC actually gained a Q1 win (over BYU in Provo earlier in the season). Gotta love statistics.

As Mark Twain said,
There are 3 kinds of lies:
Lies
Damn lies,
And statistics