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adoptedzag
02-22-2018, 02:35 PM
Just got a notification on my phone from theScore - can't find it on ESPN... yet.

gonstu
02-22-2018, 02:36 PM
WOW

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ncaab/ua/2018/02/22/arizona-wildcats-allonzo-trier-ruled-ineligible-ncaa/365350002/

basketballzag
02-22-2018, 02:36 PM
WOW

https://247sports.com/college/oregon/Bolt/Oregon-will-not-have-to-face-one-of-the-top-players-in-the-Pac-12-when-they-face-Arizona-on-Saturday-115439121

Trier was suspended for the first 20 games a year ago for a field drug screening. He returned in late January to guide Wildcats to a Pac-12 Tournament championship and a Sweet 16 appearance.

adoptedzag
02-22-2018, 02:37 PM
Just got a notification on my phone from theScore - can't find it on ESPN... yet.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ncaab/ua/2018/02/22/arizona-wildcats-allonzo-trier-ruled-ineligible-ncaa/365350002/

jazzdelmar
02-22-2018, 02:40 PM
Good job, two time loser. Another ding for Seannie.

Markburn1
02-22-2018, 02:49 PM
Good job, two time loser. Another ding for Seannie.

Remember when you and I discussed Trier as being the real deal after the Zags played the Cats in his freshman year? I think we were the only two that recognized it. This turn of events is just sad.

jazzdelmar
02-22-2018, 02:50 PM
Remember when you and I discussed Trier as being the real deal after the Zags played the Cats in his freshman year? I think we were the only two that recognized it. This turn of events is just sad.

I do, Mark. Terrific player. Something is fishy, either the NCAA is overreaching or Zona is ultra enabling. Pick your poison.

"The amount detected was miniscule by scientific standards and appears to be a remnant of a substance, which the NCAA agreed, Allonzo had unknowingly ingested in 2016," the school said.

A year ago, Trier tested positive for the PED in the preseason and wasn't cleared until Jan. 21 -- when tests showed that all traces of the substance had left his system. Trier said that he never "knowingly" took the banned substance.

gonstu
02-22-2018, 02:56 PM
So can the substance be completely out of the system and then come back without ingesting more?

Markburn1
02-22-2018, 02:58 PM
I do, Mark. Terrific player. Something is fishy, either the NCAA is overreaching or Zona is ultra enabling. Pick your poison.

"The amount detected was miniscule by scientific standards and appears to be a remnant of a substance, which the NCAA agreed, Allonzo had unknowingly ingested in 2016," the school said.

A year ago, Trier tested positive for the PED in the preseason and wasn't cleared until Jan. 21 -- when tests showed that all traces of the substance had left his system. Trier said that he never "knowingly" took the banned substance.

I'm a little confused. Are they saying the trace amounts are from the ingestion in 2016? That seems a stretch.

jazzdelmar
02-22-2018, 03:00 PM
I'm a little confused. Are they saying the trace amounts are from the ingestion in 2016? That seems a stretch.

Sure does. Why was he reinstated then? No, the school is saying this — wishing on a star — not the NCAA. Some pr flack worded it to confuse.

basketballzag
02-22-2018, 03:21 PM
NCAA doesn't want Arizona advancing on to the NCAA Tournament is what this is all about.

sittingon50
02-22-2018, 03:22 PM
Crummy news. Have always liked this kid.

raise the zag
02-22-2018, 03:29 PM
Looks and sounds like this will be short-lived.

Apparently, new type of screening which picked up "trace" and/or "miniscule" amounts of the SAME substance he tested positive for a year ago.

Certain PED's can stay in system up to a year or more, thus its most likely a more sensitive test discovering the same substance from a year ago.

I expect they'll win this appeal, yet hope its in time for NCAA play.

Arizona is a sneaky National Championship contender, as long as their defense shows up. Dual 7-footers, Trier (most underrated SG in NCAA and will be a terror in NBA), Rawle, etc.

Hoopaholic
02-22-2018, 03:31 PM
Big question is games he played in are they impacted?

Hoopaholic
02-22-2018, 03:32 PM
Looks and sounds like this will be short-lived.

Apparently, new type of screening which picked up "trace" and/or "miniscule" amounts of the SAME substance he tested positive for a year ago.

Certain PED's can stay in system up to a year or more, thus its most likely a more sensitive test discovering the same substance from a year ago.

I expect they'll win this appeal, yet hope its in time for NCAA play.

Arizona is a sneaky National Championship contender, as long as their defense shows up. Dual 7-footers, Trier (most underrated SG in NCAA and will be a terror in NBA), Rawle, etc.

Except the same test administered found none n system which cleared him to play

kitzbuel
02-22-2018, 03:32 PM
It will be interesting to see wha the NCAA officially announces. Hard to say one way or the other right now. The school obviously has its own interests and for now they are behind the player.

thespywhozaggedme
02-22-2018, 03:39 PM
So can the substance be completely out of the system and then come back without ingesting more?

Immaculate ingestion

Hoopaholic
02-22-2018, 03:40 PM
And let's not forget the original use of the banned substance was in 2016 and he was tested every 7-10 days and only when the test showed zero substance in his system was he released to play that was over a year ago
His test 2 weeks ago was unannounced test that discovered it in his system

So you had tests that showed there was none in his system only to have it discovered a year later.....I personally find it hard to believe he is innocent on taking a banned substance and he got caught

Hoopaholic
02-22-2018, 03:40 PM
Immaculate ingestion

Classic

gonstu
02-22-2018, 03:48 PM
Immaculate ingestion

:clap:

jazzdelmar
02-22-2018, 03:54 PM
One online comment.

Justin Belcher Nephrologist at Yale University School of Medicine

Lots of foolish comment here. There is nothing he could have taken that would lead to a PED ban in 2016 that would still be detectable now, even ignoring that he tested clean in the interim. They aren’t testing for lead or mercury. Fat soluble doesn’t cut it either, the detection thresholds would account for that.

Hoopaholic
02-22-2018, 03:57 PM
One online comment.

Justin Belcher Nephrologist at Yale University School of Medicine

Lots of foolish comment here. There is nothing he could have taken that would lead to a PED ban in 2016 that would still be detectable now, even ignoring that he tested clean in the interim. They arenít testing for lead or mercury. Fat soluble doesnít cut it either, the detection thresholds would account for that.

Correct. Wasn't it a Georgia lineman who had to have surgery to remove fatty deposits that held his ped in order to get a clean test?

raise the zag
02-22-2018, 04:20 PM
Hmmm....gotta wonder if this is Adderall or something similar.

Just doesn't make sense for him to inject the SAME substance, which they say it is, for PED use.

I wonder if there is something else going on. Adderall stays in system for around 2 days, at most, yet trace amts could be picked up within a few days.

Adderral is an amphetamine and can be addictive, but gives a boost of energy, or helps to focus, or stay awake, etc etc.

Very popular in academic circles, and imagine athletic on some level.

Don't want to start a rumor, as I have NO IDEA what said substance is, yet makes me wonder....

I just highly doubt this is a steroid of some type, no way he's that dumb

jazzdelmar
02-22-2018, 04:24 PM
Hmmm...

I just highly doubt this is a steroid of some type, no way he's that dumb

He’s not? It’s U OF A, not Stanford.

thespywhozaggedme
02-22-2018, 04:49 PM
Classic

I'm good for about one year

thespywhozaggedme
02-22-2018, 04:50 PM
:clap:

Aww shucks

jazzdelmar
02-22-2018, 04:51 PM
Whereís seacatfan?

btzag
02-22-2018, 05:04 PM
Simply unbelievable that the U of A is appealing the ruling that way. Every scandal that comes their way is dealt with in this fashion! Deny, deflect, make excuses, etc. Pitino would fit in there perfectly.

TexasZagFan
02-22-2018, 06:06 PM
I'm good for about one year

Not me, I use the shotgun approach, call me a volume shooter. Your results are still better.

basketballzag
02-22-2018, 06:08 PM
Trier has Ostarine in his system

zagsfanforlife
02-22-2018, 06:21 PM
holy #### how many missed layups are we going to miss

thespywhozaggedme
02-22-2018, 07:17 PM
holy #### how many missed layups are we going to miss

wrong thread, like not even close to the right thread. lol

Zona up in OT

willandi
02-22-2018, 07:30 PM
holy #### how many missed layups are we going to miss


wrong thread, like not even close to the right thread. lol

Zona up in OT

Maybe it was good that we missed the layup with Trier!

gonstu
02-22-2018, 09:09 PM
holy #### how many missed layups are we going to miss

I give this a vote for post of the year.

ZagOD7540
02-22-2018, 09:19 PM
Something is strange with the Trier story. Why hasn’t this issue popped up with other players around the country? Must be something really impressive for it to stay in your system for 2 years!

CDC84
02-22-2018, 11:47 PM
https://twitter.com/jessebritches/status/966831953059102720

TSN article: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/allonzo-trier-ruled-ineligible-ncaa-arizona-wildcats-drug-test-ncaa-pac-12/mt67kbw9sqhp1x78h23ys247l?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Hoopaholic
02-23-2018, 05:59 AM
https://twitter.com/jessebritches/status/966831953059102720

TSN article: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/allonzo-trier-ruled-ineligible-ncaa-arizona-wildcats-drug-test-ncaa-pac-12/mt67kbw9sqhp1x78h23ys247l?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
That tsn article makes no sense

Find illegal substance in athlete and NCAA should ignore it because player says he didnít take it. Yea ok

JPtheBeasta
02-23-2018, 08:28 AM
I give this a vote for post of the year.

If you miss a missed layup, is that a made layup?

TexasZagFan
02-23-2018, 09:45 AM
Something is strange with the Trier story. Why hasn’t this issue popped up with other players around the country? Must be something really impressive for it to stay in your system for 2 years!

Damn, wish that was around 20 years ago...I didn't like getting shot in the rear every three weeks when my T count was low, contributed to the 13 year spread between middle child and youngest child.

CDC84
02-23-2018, 01:22 PM
https://twitter.com/jessebritches/status/966831953059102720

Whatever Trier took is clearly not something that builds muscle by the looks of this photo. It might enhance endurance or something.

If what Trier says is true, you would think there is some concoction you could drink or inject that would just wipe your system clean of the substance. Why didn't he do it during his suspension? Then again, I am not a doctor....I have no idea if such a concoction exists.

btzag
02-23-2018, 08:01 PM
After all the news that dropped today about UA anybody still believe the defense floated out there by Trier and the staff??