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Reborn
01-11-2018, 08:10 PM
I LOVED IT!!! HAHAHA

Gonzaga 103
Portland 57

For many, I suppose a boring game. For others like me, FANTASTIC. I mean, Melson who has been in a shooting slump from behind the arc hit 7-11. He also led the team with 23 points. If it wasn't Melson from the outside it was Rui Hachimura from the inside, Rui, displaying every twisting and turning move humanly possible, scored 20. He dribbled the full length of the court twice for twisting layups and Iceman's finger rolls. Or was he Julius Irving? These are reasons why I call Game Day the best day of the week. Like I said a few days ago, the beauty of this team is that you are not going to know who is going to lead the team in scoring.

Zags knock down 13 three's, shoot 52% from the field, grabbed 50 rebounds (may be a team high for the year against a good rebounding team), and only had 6 turnovers (season low I believe), and 22 assists.

The key for me was keeping the pedal to the metal. The team never let up. Portland made some nice three pointers, but they always have a good three- point shooting team. Portland is a rising young team in conference who just recently lost to San Diego by only two points. I'd say this victory by the Zags tonight is a statement. They now get ready to go into San Francisco to play the Dons. This is always a tough game for GU.

Perkins had 13 and Tillie 15.

Skimhvn
01-11-2018, 08:17 PM
I envy the ACC, BE, P12 etc, even A10, MWC games..

Birddog
01-11-2018, 08:19 PM
I can't remember a more complete domination of a team in quite a while. Every Zag on the active roster scores, team scores 103 pts, hauls down 50 RB's, gets 22 A's vs just 6 TO's. Throw in 6 blocks and 9 steals, just amazing! Oh, and Rui was just amazing too.

Zagceo
01-11-2018, 08:20 PM
Just keep pouring it on and celebrating 46 point victories capped by former team manager getting couple rebs and first basket and Zags may be told to leave WCC...we can hope:p

Ezag
01-11-2018, 08:25 PM
Just keep pouring it on and celebrating 46 point victories capped by former team manager getting couple rebs and first basket and Zags may be told to leave WCC...we can hope:p

If these first few games are an indication, it might happen!

JPtheBeasta
01-11-2018, 08:26 PM
-Maybe that dribble drive for Wade will help take the lid off the basket.
-Larsen had 10 rebounds in limited minutes.
-Rui looks like he is running in slow motion when he has the ball, but the other time is running in even slower motion. He looks so comfortable out there and is a truly unique player who is a matchup nightmare. He appears to be very comfortable and confident, and could probably finger roll a bucket over this Portland defense while reading the morning paper and drinking a cup of coffee. I can’t wait until he starts moving full speed :)
-Perkins showed a really good handle against these guys and got anywhere he wanted to go on the court. I wish I knew what he said to Coach Few on his way out that caused him to crack such a big smile.
-Kispert’s 3’s were all very close and he’s going to be the next Zag to hit 7 in a game.
-Tillie had the dunk of the night.

Hoopaholic
01-11-2018, 08:35 PM
-Maybe that dribble drive for Wade will help take the lid off the basket.
-Larsen had 10 rebounds in limited minutes.
-Rui looks like he is running in slow motion when he has the ball, but the other time is running in even slower motion. He looks so comfortable out there and is a truly unique player who is a matchup nightmare. He appears to be very comfortable and confident, and could probably finger roll a bucket over this Portland defense while reading the morning paper and drinking a cup of coffee. I can’t wait until he starts moving full speed :)
-Perkins showed a really good handle against these guys and got anywhere he wanted to go on the court. I wish I knew what he said to Coach Few on his way out that caused him to crack such a big smile.
-Kispert’s 3’s were all very close and he’s going to be the next Zag to hit 7 in a game.
-Tillie had the dunk of the night.

Larsen played almost as many minutes as J3...17 minutes logged tonight very good run for him

Perkins with 7 assist in less than 20 minutes of play. Wow

Defense and rebounding was incredible

I thought he gave coach few a kiss on cheek

Zagceo
01-11-2018, 08:43 PM
Perkins fouls out playing 19 min....and my wife said he kissed Few going to the bench after fouling out...I didn't see it...anybody?

Hoopaholic
01-11-2018, 08:49 PM
Perkins fouls out playing 19 min....and my wife said he kissed Few going to the bench after fouling out...I didn't see it...anybody?

Agree with your wife I thought he kissed the coach

JPtheBeasta
01-11-2018, 08:50 PM
Sounds like we have two votes for kiss on the cheek. I deleted the game already so I can’t rewatch...

Eta: 3 votes. First the leopard print robe, now this. Perkins’ is making his mark in more ways than one :)

Section 116
01-11-2018, 09:01 PM
Sorry about no post game radio, I had to come home and shovel and snow blow about 6 inches of fresh snow, hahaha. I do recall Michaelson saying the Zags put up 78 shots tonight which he thought might be a record. Also noted Melson was noted as a shooter and a scorer coming out of high school so everyone knew he could have this kind of night which I believe was a record high. Morrison noted Tillie is much more athletic than he thought. He noted the little "shot put" shot from the lane in not an easy shot and Tillie seems to have mastered it. Also was complimentary of Tillie's dunk which he can definitely do but rarely does. Morrison noted Rui's points per minute is off the charts which Morrison says is something tracked very closely in the NBA. And his GU leading WCC scoring is being accomplished in not a lot of minutes. Michaelson said the WCC schedule is what it is and they absolutely had to go 5-0 in this stretch which will not get significantly tougher beginning at USF on Saturday, followed by SMC and then back on the road the following Saturday. He also said J3 could have returned if GU really needed him tonight but they elected to sit him and get him ready for Saturday. That's about all I recall.

SWZag
01-11-2018, 09:49 PM
Sorry about no post game radio, I had to come home and shovel and snow blow about 6 inches of fresh snow, hahaha. I do recall Michaelson saying the Zags put up 78 shots tonight which he thought might be a record. Also noted Melson was noted as a shooter and a scorer coming out of high school so everyone knew he could have this kind of night which I believe was a record high. Morrison noted Tillie is much more athletic than he thought. He noted the little "shot put" shot from the lane in not an easy shot and Tillie seems to have mastered it. Also was complimentary of Tillie's dunk which he can definitely do but rarely does. Morrison noted Rui's points per minute is off the charts which Morrison says is something tracked very closely in the NBA. And his GU leading WCC scoring is being accomplished in not a lot of minutes. Michaelson said the WCC schedule is what it is and they absolutely had to go 5-0 in this stretch which will not get significantly tougher beginning at USF on Saturday, followed by SMC and then back on the road the following Saturday. He also said J3 could have returned if GU really needed him tonight but they elected to sit him and get him ready for Saturday. That's about all I recall.

Was looking for the post game radio thread! Found it! Thanks! Good luck with the snow!

hooter73
01-11-2018, 10:04 PM
I saw it. Few smiled, then I smiled.

Sound Voltex
01-11-2018, 10:04 PM
We are monkey butt suck.

I know, I know, trust the process, young guys, learning experience, growing pains...but weh.

See you on ESPN in two weeks!

jazzdelmar
01-12-2018, 04:32 AM
Snoozers........but it's always thrilling to watch Rui grow.

Bogozags
01-12-2018, 05:36 AM
Snoozers........but it's always thrilling to watch Rui grow.

Absolutely...he has so much talent and he now plays within himself...

Next for him is feeling comfortable in taking his open 3's...when he starts hitting those, then "A" line drives open up for him, which will drive his defender and coaches nuts...

Just another thought...if those extremely open 3's would have hit, we could have scored at least 120pts!

GonzagasaurusFlex
01-12-2018, 05:39 AM
Highlight of the game for me was the team’s celebration when the manager turned walk-on, Pete, knocked down a midrange baseline jumper to score his first career points. Seeing such unbridled joy and enthusiasm in support of a teammate is why Zags truly are a “close knit team...like family”. Many programs like to describe themselves as such but I really think Zags are unique in the degree to which that is in fact their reality.

Love seeing Silas stroke it w confidence and Rui’s continued improvement. Everyone looked great (except for Kispert from 3), but not sure if Zags are improving as a team vs such over-matched opponents. I worry about bad habits / over-confidence. For example, that play when Rui and Tillie were like 2 feet from one another, Rui just hands Killian the ball who then scores it. Terrible spacing that ain’t gonna fly vs tourney teams.

zag67
01-12-2018, 05:57 AM
I agree on the bench. That was one of the most fantastic sights I have seen at GU. It again shows the GU unity and expression of excitement that we have. Go Zags.

Zagger
01-12-2018, 06:06 AM
Highlight of the game for me was the team’s celebration when the manager turned walk-on, Pete, knocked down a midrange baseline jumper to score his first career points. Seeing such unbridled joy and enthusiasm in support of a teammate is why Zags truly are a “close knit team...like family”. Many programs like to describe themselves as such but I really think Zags are unique in the degree to which that is in fact their reality.

Love seeing Silas stroke it w confidence and Rui’s continued improvement. Everyone looked great (except for Kispert from 3), but not sure if Zags are improving as a team vs such over-matched opponents. I worry about bad habits / over-confidence. For example, that play when Rui and Tillie were like 2 feet from one another, Rui just hands Killian the ball who then scores it. Terrible spacing that ain’t gonna fly vs tourney teams.

That was fun. Just another reason why one ought never leave a Zags game early :)

I saw a smiling Few a couple times when Rui was doing his stuff. I sure hope we can keep Rui for awhile! At least another season.

I hope J3 is OK. Not seeing him on the floor after 1/2 time was worrying. I was so glad when he finally came out of the tunnel dressed to play.

Melson :) :) :) He looked pretty comfy last night.

WallaWallaZag
01-12-2018, 06:41 AM
Snoozers........but it's always thrilling to watch Rui grow.

no doubt...rui must have been watching ko tape, cuz that spin move was from the olynyk klynyk...too bad he missed the shot...a little too much momentum...ko never had that problem, ha.

strikenowhere
01-12-2018, 06:52 AM
Its going to be a system shock more than usual when they hit the NCAA tournament and play against some quality competition. This league is pathetic.

jazzdelmar
01-12-2018, 07:15 AM
Its going to be a system shock more than usual when they hit the NCAA tournament and play against some quality competition. This league is pathetic.

Gotta agree with this........Lulled into complacency more than ever before. Just human nature. Can't see Tillie and Rui floating around the key unfettered against a real team. And Josh will be pressed.

bballbeachbum
01-12-2018, 07:38 AM
Its going to be a system shock more than usual when they hit the NCAA tournament and play against some quality competition. This league is pathetic.

agree with this although there are still some potential turds to step in from the WCC ahead

hooter73
01-12-2018, 07:46 AM
Its going to be a system shock more than usual when they hit the NCAA tournament and play against some quality competition. This league is pathetic.
Wcc does nothing but hurt us. Our rpi, our players, our level prep for March...

former1dog
01-12-2018, 07:51 AM
Wcc does nothing but hurt us. Our rpi, our players, our level prep for March...

Imagine what we could do if we weren't in the WCC...

Maybe we could win a game in 9 consecutive NCAA appearances, or win 2 games in the NCAA's in 3 consecutive appearances, or maybe even make the championship game. I mean, that would be a dream come true, don't you think! Maybe we could get a couple of 1 seeds! Just imagine!

Nah, just a pipe dream. We could never accomplish all of that, better than all but a couple of programs in all of college basketball, coming out of the WCC. :(

willandi
01-12-2018, 08:16 AM
Imagine what we could do if we weren't in the WCC...

Maybe we could win a game in 9 consecutive NCAA appearances, or win 2 games in the NCAA's in 3 consecutive appearances, or maybe even make the championship game. I mean, that would be a dream come true, don't you think! Maybe we could get a couple of 1 seeds! Just imagine!

Nah, just a pipe dream. We could never accomplish all of that, better than all but a couple of programs in all of college basketball, coming out of the WCC. :(

HAHA!!! Love it!


The Zags leaving the WCC has been covered ad naseum. There has to be a place for them to go, and all the other programs have to have a place as well.

Continued griping about the WCC does no one any good. It is what it is, and the Zags will do what the Zags do. If you want to watch ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12 sports...feel free. This is Gonzaga in the WCC, at least until all the needs can be met to affect a change.

bballbeachbum
01-12-2018, 08:21 AM
HAHA!!! Love it!


The Zags leaving the WCC has been covered ad naseum. There has to be a place for them to go, and all the other programs have to have a place as well.

Continued griping about the WCC does no one any good. It is what it is, and the Zags will do what the Zags do. If you want to watch ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12 sports...feel free. This is Gonzaga in the WCC, at least until all the needs can be met to affect a change.

the Zags can still overcome the WCC and have proven it, yes! I love them for it.

doesn't change the fact the league is a basketball donkey pretty much year after year. you disagree with that and think the league, not the Zags or SMC, but the overall basketball league is a good basketball league?

former1dog
01-12-2018, 08:39 AM
the Zags can still overcome the WCC and have proven it, yes! I love them for it.

doesn't change the fact the league is a basketball donkey pretty much year after year. you disagree with that and think the league, not the Zags or SMC, but the overall basketball league is a good basketball league?


What is your interest? What is your end goal?

Is your interest what is best for Gonzaga basketball and GU Athletics generally? Or is your interest the quality of conference opponents?

If it is the former, while not ideal, the WCC remains the best fit for Gonzaga. And as I sarcastically attempted to demonstrate, it has not hurt Gonzaga's Basketball team in the least. Only 1 team has a longer current streak of winning at least one NCAA tournament game, Kansas with 11 versus Gonzaga at 9. Only one team has a longer current streak of winning at least 2 NCAA tournament games with Wisconsin at 4, versus Gonzaga at 3. We have had multiple 1 seeds awarded and other top 4 seeds as well. The WCC isn't the best basketball conference, but it is not hold Gonzaga basketball back even a little bit.

If your interest is a better basketball conference, why?

JPtheBeasta
01-12-2018, 09:12 AM
HAHA!!! Love it!


The Zags leaving the WCC has been covered ad naseum. There has to be a place for them to go, and all the other programs have to have a place as well.

Continued griping about the WCC does no one any good. It is what it is, and the Zags will do what the Zags do. If you want to watch ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12 sports...feel free. This is Gonzaga in the WCC, at least until all the needs can be met to affect a change.

It seems that perhaps some of the justification for moving to another conference is fueled by boredom and the desire to see the Zags play more interesting opponents.

WallaWallaZag
01-12-2018, 09:16 AM
It seems that perhaps some of the justification for moving to another conference is fueled by boredom and the desire to see the Zags play more interesting opponents.

obviously, but imo it has been well-established that currently, such a scenario doesn't exist...so it seems pointless to constantly refer back to it.

bballbeachbum
01-12-2018, 09:25 AM
What is your interest? What is your end goal?

Is your interest what is best for Gonzaga basketball and GU Athletics generally? Or is your interest the quality of conference opponents?

If it is the former, while not ideal, the WCC remains the best fit for Gonzaga. And as I sarcastically attempted to demonstrate, it has not hurt Gonzaga's Basketball team in the least. Only 1 team has a longer current streak of winning at least one NCAA tournament game, Kansas with 11 versus Gonzaga at 9. Only one team has a longer current streak of winning at least 2 NCAA tournament games with Wisconsin at 4, versus Gonzaga at 3. We have had multiple 1 seeds awarded and other top 4 seeds as well. The WCC isn't the best basketball conference, but it is not hold Gonzaga basketball back even a little bit.

If your interest is a better basketball conference, why?

thanks for your passionate reply.

My goal? My interest? To root for and observe the Zags basketball team and Mark Few. That's why I'm here. Few is my favorite coach for many reasons, and I look to emulate his family approach and laying down roots approach and not following the next flashiest opportunity approach, but instead to build a life with your community through your expressions as a coach over a long time.

That is what I am into, who I am, and why Few is, to me, the MAN. That's why I follow this team and root for their success. It's not an alumni thing, it's about something else for me.

Anyway, I could argue that the level of the WCC over the years helped create that ceiling of Few 32 and all that, and it took many years for the Zags to overcome and adjust to it...that's what I think happened WHICH IS AWESOME btw!!!

along with getting Shem who ultimately led the best front court in the country last year imo with the best Zag backcourt ever imo led by the best Zag year ever in the uniform by a player not named Morrison.

but that doesn't deny that the WCC, as a basketball conference, isn't very good...I thought it was self evident frankly. And while Few is incredible at overcoming the need for normal convention, this year's WCC drek is quite drekky so I agreed with the original premise.

all that said, I LOVE following every game and the development of the players...every game, root for them all hard, love watching the development

Birddog
01-12-2018, 10:05 AM
At this juncture, it appears as though the bottom 5 WCC teams are totally inept. The top 4 teams appear to be adequate or better and Pacific may be on the rise. Until the first round is over we won't know who is really good and who the pretenders are. The bottom half does appear to be far worse than normal however. The GU/SMC game should tell us a lot but it doesn't take a genius to figure this out.

TexasZagFan
01-12-2018, 10:11 AM
At this juncture, it appears as though the bottom 5 WCC teams are totally inept. The top 4 teams appear to be adequate or better and Pacific may be on the rise. Until the first round is over we won't know who is really good and who the pretenders are. The bottom half does appear to be far worse than normal however. The GU/SMC game should tell us a lot but it doesn't take a genius to figure this out.

The bottom 3 teams are 1-14, the only win being LMU last night. I see Portland improving with Porter as the head coach. Pepperdine IMO is officially a lost cause, the way the administration backed down on improving facilities was telling.

Zags and Gaels are both 5-0, five teams are 3-2 or 2-3, LMU is 1-4, and two are 0-5. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

sittingon50
01-12-2018, 10:29 AM
WCC RPI (per KenPom) is currently 11 (of 32).

Same source, since 2002:

16,12,12,11,12,14,14,13,14,11,11,10,9,8,14,11,11.

There are certain variables that effect the #'s such as the changing # of teams in the WCC & other conference realignments.

Be that as it may, I count 9 yrs. where the # is worse, 4 yrs. where it's the same & 3 where it's better.

A little perspective. Hope it helps.

bballbeachbum
01-12-2018, 10:36 AM
WCC RPI (per KenPom) is currently 11 (of 32).

Same source, since 2002:

16,12,12,11,12,14,14,13,14,11,11,10,9,8,14,11,11.

There are certain variables that effect the #'s such as the changing # of teams in the WCC & other conference realignments.

Be that as it may, I count 9 yrs. where the # is worse, 4 yrs. where it's the same & 3 where it's better.

A little perspective. Hope it helps.

it does, thank you. 6 down from the Power 5 but 20 up on the rest
but I've never advocated leaving the WCC

dhozagfan08
01-12-2018, 10:47 AM
Was anyone else as excited as me to see kispert at SG?! I haven't watched all of the blowouts, so they may have done it before and I missed it. I love the size that lineup brings with CK at SG and RH at SF. Great for rebounding, they had two offensive rebounds in a row. That's a lot of length in a zone defense as well. I was thinking about that possibility already in regards to the log jam up front for next year. If kispert plays some at SG and rui gets 20 min a game at SF, that kind of takes care of the issue.

strikenowhere
01-12-2018, 10:58 AM
WCC RPI (per KenPom) is currently 11 (of 32).

Same source, since 2002:

16,12,12,11,12,14,14,13,14,11,11,10,9,8,14,11,11.

There are certain variables that effect the #'s such as the changing # of teams in the WCC & other conference realignments.

Be that as it may, I count 9 yrs. where the # is worse, 4 yrs. where it's the same & 3 where it's better.

A little perspective. Hope it helps.

I wonder what those rankings would be if the Zags were removed from the equation.

MileHigh
01-12-2018, 11:07 AM
I wonder what those rankings would be if the Zags were removed from the equation.

this. I would love to see an rpi where you remove the rpi of the best 2 teams from each league, then rerank the league. It would be interesting to see which leagues have more top to bottom balance and which leagues are being propped up by one or two teams

GoZags
01-12-2018, 11:24 AM
Imagine what we could do if we weren't in the WCC...

Maybe we could win a game in 9 consecutive NCAA appearances, or win 2 games in the NCAA's in 3 consecutive appearances, or maybe even make the championship game. I mean, that would be a dream come true, don't you think! Maybe we could get a couple of 1 seeds! Just imagine!

Nah, just a pipe dream. We could never accomplish all of that, better than all but a couple of programs in all of college basketball, coming out of the WCC. :(

I'll have what he's having.

Skimhvn
01-12-2018, 12:43 PM
I worry about bad habits / over-confidence. For example, that play when Rui and Tillie were like 2 feet from one another, Rui just hands Killian the ball who then scores it. Terrible spacing that ain’t gonna fly vs tourney teams.

Yes, that spacing was allowed just because the opponent was Portland.

Zagceo
01-12-2018, 12:51 PM
think how bad it could have been if they called all the fouls Portland really committed.

http://www.spokesman.com/galleries/2018/jan/11/gonzaga-vs-portland-jan-11/#/6

http://media.spokesman.com/photos/2018/01/11/SRX_GU_PORTLAND_4_t1860.jpg?e376738356dfb157a06634 95e736cc1da8d5d967

dan71w
01-12-2018, 01:28 PM
Imagine what we could do if we weren't in the WCC...

Maybe we could win a game in 9 consecutive NCAA appearances, or win 2 games in the NCAA's in 3 consecutive appearances, or maybe even make the championship game. I mean, that would be a dream come true, don't you think! Maybe we could get a couple of 1 seeds! Just imagine!

Nah, just a pipe dream. We could never accomplish all of that, better than all but a couple of programs in all of college basketball, coming out of the WCC. :(

perfect!!!! thank you, and i agree
getting tired of the Debby downers, makes these boards depressing to read half the time

Bogozags
01-12-2018, 01:59 PM
At this juncture, it appears as though the bottom 5 WCC teams are totally inept. The top 4 teams appear to be adequate or better and Pacific may be on the rise. Until the first round is over we won't know who is really good and who the pretenders are. The bottom half does appear to be far worse than normal however. The GU/SMC game should tell us a lot but it doesn't take a genius to figure this out.

I agree after the first round is complete we really won't know how strong the top four are going to be; however, from having seen every team play at least one, I think WCC can get three teams into the dance...GU, SMC and USD...

SMC has already beaten BYU on the road and USD at home in a close game. If USD can beat SMC at home and beat BYU twice, I think USD has a better than average chance of making the dance this year. If by chance they beat the Zags at home, then I think they would be a lock...conference is stronger this year than the last couple of years...

In addition, I don't think playing in the WCC has truly "hurt" the Zag's opportunities regarding the Dance...barring any strange catastrophe GU will be playing in its 20th consecutive NCAA tournament...I'm not sure any Big East team can say the same...

MileHigh
01-12-2018, 02:33 PM
I agree after the first round is complete we really won't know how strong the top four are going to be; however, from having seen every team play at least one, I think WCC can get three teams into the dance...GU, SMC and USD...

SMC has already beaten BYU on the road and USD at home in a close game. If USD can beat SMC at home and beat BYU twice, I think USD has a better than average chance of making the dance this year. If by chance they beat the Zags at home, then I think they would be a lock...conference is stronger this year than the last couple of years...

In addition, I don't think playing in the WCC has truly "hurt" the Zag's opportunities regarding the Dance...barring any strange catastrophe GU will be playing in its 20th consecutive NCAA tournament...I'm not sure any Big East team can say the same...

San Diego is currently at an RPI (Espn) of 113. Unless they win the conf. tourney they will not be in the ncaa tourney

gonstu
01-12-2018, 04:11 PM
San Diego is currently at an RPI (Espn) of 113. Unless they win the conf. tourney they will not be in the ncaa tourney

Not saying it will happen, BUT. If USD wins out except for a Loss in Spokane, their RPI is projected to be 40. That is not including WCC tourney outcomes.

Used RPI wizard http://www.rpiforecast.com/cgi-bin/rpiwizard.cgi

gonstu
01-12-2018, 04:15 PM
Not saying it will happen, BUT. If USD wins out except for a Loss in Spokane, their RPI is projected to be 40. That is not including WCC tourney outcomes.

Used RPI wizard http://www.rpiforecast.com/cgi-bin/rpiwizard.cgi

Just saw that Pacific beat USD last night. Never mind. Seems to be a problem with any one outside of GU-SMC. No one else takes care of the bottom of the league like they're 'supposed' to.

75Zag
01-12-2018, 04:42 PM
It seems unwise to dump shame and disdain onto the WCC as long as GU remains a member of that conference. Regardless of what may or may not happen in the future, as of today the WCC is our conference and I celebrate their greatness.

Go Bulldogs!

Bogozags
01-12-2018, 07:29 PM
Just saw that Pacific beat USD last night. Never mind. Seems to be a problem with any one outside of GU-SMC. No one else takes care of the bottom of the league like they're 'supposed' to.

Wow! USD must have been down from losing that SMC game...I think GU has really tough road games - except for Portland as I think that is a “sure” win (?)...UOP has beaten BYU and USD back-to-back at home...don’t see GU with 30-40 point victories at USF, SCU, UOP, USD, BYU or SMC...I hope we are able to stay focused and execute the game plan.

sittingon50
01-12-2018, 09:32 PM
I wonder what those rankings would be if the Zags were removed from the equation.

Another variable perhaps, strike. And one that I am waaaaay to lazy to figure out!!