Ditch the mix tape moves

[AzZag]

Perkins was awful.
Plays no defense.
Gets beat off the dribble causing others to leave their man
and we give up an uncontested 3.

Turnover machine. Dribble Dribble Dribble and goes nowhere.
Shooting terrible. Missing free throws. Fouling at bad times.

I was trying to figure which was worse
1. The officiating
2. Perkins game tonight.

Sadly I have to go with Perkins.
Ditch the And 1 mix tape moves and play the game right.

That team was not better than us. Not even close.

Kell chewed up Perkins all night long.

Let J Will run the point and bench Perkins

[Zags11]

Perkins was awful.
Plays no defense.
Gets beat off the dribble causing others to leave their man
and we give up an uncontested 3.

Turnover machine. Dribble Dribble Dribble and goes nowhere.
Shooting terrible. Missing free throws. Fouling at bad times.

I was trying to figure which was worse
1. The officiating
2. Perkins game tonight.

Sadly I have to go with Perkins.
Ditch the And 1 mix tape moves and play the game right.

That team was not better than us. Not even close.

Kell chewed up Perkins all night long.

Let J Will run the point and bench Perkins

Kick rocks

[Zagricultural]

Pure hyperbole.

[Saxon_zag]

Let J Will run the point and bench Perkins

um what? lol


Silly thread title but he's been pretty bad ever since the 2nd half of the Texas game where he was atrocious. His jump shot bails him out sometimes but the Point Guard skills are meh. Does anyone really trust him with the ball like you did Nigel? Half as much? Clanks 2 free throws to end the game tonight. He's in his own head bad... No killer instinct and short memory (see Norvell)

[Zags11]

um what? lol


Silly thread title but he's been pretty bad ever since the 2nd half of the Texas game where he was atrocious. His jump shot bails him out sometimes but the Point Guard skills are meh. Does anyone really trust him with the ball like you did Nigel? Half as much? Clanks 2 free throws to end the game tonight. He's in his own head bad... No killer instinct and short memory (see Norvell)

Goss and Perkins turnovers are nearly identical. Ppg too. Do I think he is better then goss? No.

But the over exaggeration on Perkins is old.

[CDC84]

And he has no one to back him up. I have been harping on this all season. Melson can't run the offense, and Wade is injured and has been away from organized ball for too long. So when Perkins has a game like hell, Few can't sit him for five minutes to get his head straight. He has to stick with him.

[Zags11]

And he has no one to back him up. I have been harping on this all season. Melson can't run the offense, and Wade is injured and has been away from organized ball for too long. So when Perkins has a game like hell, Few can't sit him for five minutes to get his head straight. He has to stick with him.

We are going to live or die with him. He isn't as bad as ppl like to talk on here. However when he isn't having a good game, we can't survive without him.

[Saxon_zag]

Goss and Perkins turnovers are nearly identical. Ppg too. Do I think he is better then goss? No.

But the over exaggeration on Perkins is old.

Come on man. He was horrible tonight. He was horrible in the Texas game and made a play that JV high school point guards know not to make at the end of a game to give Texas the shot to tie. He doesn't deserve personal attacks but people can make the observation that his play is not what you would call "heady" from a PG at all and his bad play seems to snowball.

Free Jesse Wade for 10-15 mins a game and you can even let Perkins play the off guard he seemed more comfortable at IMO.

[CDC84]

Keep in mind his stats before this game. 2 for 1 A/T ratio. High shooting percentages from three and from the field. But I worry about him come late February. He's going to end up playing a ton of minutes.

[Zags11]

Come on man. He was horrible tonight. He was horrible in the Texas game and made a play that JV high school point guards know not to make at the end of a game to give Texas the shot to tie. He doesn't deserve personal attacks but people can make the observation that his play is not what you would call "heady" from a PG at all and his bad play seems to snowball.

Free Jesse Wade for 10-15 mins a game and you can even let Perkins play the off guard he seemed more comfortable at IMO.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/cbk/players.asp?id=122297

I see about 4-5 more losses and a sw16 exit if goss had this team instead of last yrs team. Some bad games. However he had the squad to back it up. Perkins doesn't.

[Zags11]

Keep in mind his stats before this game. 2 for 1 A/T ratio. High shooting percentages from three and from the field. But I worry about him come late February. He's going to end up playing a ton of minutes.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/cbk/players.asp?id=122297

[Zags11]

Lose to wvu in sw16 if he Perkins.
10pts. 2-10 shooting. 5 turnovers and 2 assists.

4pts. 2-9 shooting vs Portland. 3 ass and 1 to.

9pts. 4-13 shooting vs SDSU

15pts. 5-17 shooting vs NC

9pts. 3-12 shooting vs SDSU on 2nd game of yr. 3 assists and 4 turnovers.

15pts. 3-11 shooting vs Portland at home.

20pts. 6-19 shooting vs NW.

11.7ppg on 27.4% shooting.

Team record 6-1. If you think we go 6-1 with Perkins doing that? Your high. Probably 2-5.

[CDC84]

I don't think some folks are aware that Jesse still isn't well physically. That is part of the reason he isn't getting much run. That and the fact that he has not played much organized ball since the Civil War.

[gonwick]

Rough stretch for zags and Josh. I can't remember fast forwarding as many games as I have in a row. Painful to watch. I think some of the frustration re Josh vs Nigel, despite some stats similar, is that it feels like Josh's errors are unforced, while Nigel's came from forcing things. Josh is good for 1 to 2 turnovers per game thst involve loose handles, needless no look passes to nowhere, silly post entry passes, etc. Nigel made some of these too, but not as many. This team is in desperate need of a point guard for back up minutes. I am worried for next year. Ayayi, wade, and the kid whose other offer was smc, and Josh as a 5th year sr. Not sure how that will go. Josh, as always, needs to make the simple plays. I'd be happy if he'd just stop dribbling off himself and looking away for EVERY pass. Seems like a nice kid, hard to watch.

[zagsfanforlife]

I think as a whole that was one of the worst games i have ever seen since i started following in 1998. Absolutely pathetic effort against a really really bad team.