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adoptedzag
12-14-2017, 08:52 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21738209/south-dakota-state-mike-daum-decision-make-future

Looks like he has a decision to make. He looked pretty good against us in the tournament. Seems like a good kid, heck of a player. I don't think he'd come here, but it would be an interesting get.

ZagsObserver
12-14-2017, 09:05 AM
Assuming the jackrabbits win their conference tournament, I could see them as a dangerous 12 or 13 seed.

As for your transfer dream, I hope he stays right where he’s at.

jazzdelmar
12-14-2017, 09:09 AM
Not a good fit, IMO. Too much of a throwback.

TexasZagFan
12-14-2017, 09:16 AM
Not a good fit, IMO. Too much of a throwback.

He seemed pretty adamant about staying there.

Jazz, with Filip & Brandon Clarke playing next year, where would he fit?

Bogozags
12-14-2017, 11:24 AM
Not a good fit, IMO. Too much of a throwback.

Do you mean a "throwback" to a PK post player...

I think he could start with us as I believe that Tillie will make the jump this year so his big body and old school play would fit in nicely...imo

Goshzagit
12-14-2017, 11:35 AM
IF Tillie returns, we'd have Larsen, Filip, & Clarke (occasionally Rui) up front.

Not enough room or mins to go around for Daum.

I do love his game though.

speaking of IF those Rui and Tillie return, we are going to be REALLY good next season.

Add another guard to the mix (Ayayi?), and that frontcourt, along with Kispert, Norvell, Rui development, another F4 contender in the making.

This year is a Sweet 16 squad at best, imho, but ya never know with the right match-ups.

MDABE80
12-14-2017, 11:36 AM
Amen to that my friend. When we'll have Larsen, Tillie (hoping he stays and gets better this year with his fouling and PPG output), Clarke, Rui ( he's going nowhere till he rectifies certain things)and Filip.we'll be more than fine. Parenthetically I love throwbacks. We should be quite shocking in the front court.

To be sure, we have a different type of basketball this year i.e.high flyers to be sure with first option an alley oop or an emphatic dunk. Me? I'd rather see a fine lay up due to pinpoint passing and some good strong defense....but that's just me. I hope we'll have both as the season wears on.

Goshzagit
12-14-2017, 11:51 AM
To be sure, we have a different type of basketball this year i.e.high flyers to be sure with first option an alley oop or an emphatic dunk. Me? I'd rather see a fine lay up due to pinpoint passing and some good strong defense....but that's just me. I hope we'll have both as the season wears on.

Its the only reason I see us hitting a wall in 2nd Rd or S16, as our defense has been porous in critical moments, especially end of games.

For instance, this year's team wouldn't be able to sustain the blows, fouls, banging, and defensive dog fight we had vs West Virginia last season in S16.

Teams are desperate, Refs are tight, and shots are off more than not, thus defense wins the game. We funneled dribble drive guards to our bigs last year, b/c we knew Karno or Collins (or J3 on weakside help), could clean it up. We also defended in crunch time better with a fresh Silas and Collins off the bench, both really good defensive players.

Our bench, save Jeremy Jones, probably hurts our defensive scheme more than helps, whether its Kispert, Norvell, Rui, et al.

Not that we're not equally talented, I believe we are, its just Tourney time is about defense. and toughness. and fresh legs as well.

Its the difference b/w this year and next, or last year and this year.

While our overall Def % is good, its the last 5 or 6 mins of games, or when a team goes at us, or tough on boards, which worries me and precisely what we'll see after Rd 1 in NCAA's.

Zagdawg
12-14-2017, 12:00 PM
We have seen the Zags give up leads this year and not do as well as they could be doing -- but we have also seen the Zags perform well defensively for streaks. I think of the Texas game where we gave up the lead-- but turned on the D in the overtime period forcing 3 turnovers and 4 missed shots -- Texas scored on a dunk and 2 FTs - total of 4 points in the entire overtime period.

VaBeachZAG
12-14-2017, 12:19 PM
IF Tillie returns, we'd have Larsen, Filip, & Clarke (occasionally Rui) up front.

Not enough room or mins to go around for Daum.

I do love his game though.

speaking of IF those Rui and Tillie return, we are going to be REALLY good next season.

Add another guard to the mix (Ayayi?), and that frontcourt, along with Kispert, Norvell, Rui development, another F4 contender in the making.

This year is a Sweet 16 squad at best, imho, but ya never know with the right match-ups.

Absolutely no doubt in my mind, if all eligible to return do so next year along with the newcomers, this will be a one seed/final four threat. An elite guard to accompany Perkins would seal the deal for sure (maybe that elite guard is waiting to emerge from the current roster or maybe he comes in the form of a grad transfer, who knows).

WyoZag
12-14-2017, 12:32 PM
Tillie (hoping he stays and gets better this year with his fouling and PPG output) . . .

How is it that you evaluate players? Advanced statistics actually favor Tillie's current ten game sample over what Wiltjer and Sabonis put out per 100 possessions. And let's be real, there are going to plenty of opportunities to boost those numbers as we head into WCC play.

Just curious after the continuous criticism of Perkins' play.

TexasZagFan
12-14-2017, 01:00 PM
How is it that you evaluate players? Advanced statistics actually favor Tillie's current ten game sample over what Wiltjer and Sabonis put out per 100 possessions. And let's be real, there are going to plenty of opportunities to boost those numbers as we head into WCC play.

Just curious after the continuous criticism of Perkins' play.

I'm a big fan of Mark Twain, who said "there are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."

thespywhozaggedme
12-14-2017, 04:07 PM
I read that article this morning and I thought it was really disrespectful to South Dakota State.

cggonzaga
12-14-2017, 06:26 PM
IF Tillie returns, we'd have Larsen, Filip, & Clarke (occasionally Rui) up front.

Not enough room or mins to go around for Daum.

I do love his game though.

speaking of IF those Rui and Tillie return, we are going to be REALLY good next season.

Add another guard to the mix (Ayayi?), and that frontcourt, along with Kispert, Norvell, Rui development, another F4 contender in the making.

This year is a Sweet 16 squad at best, imho, but ya never know with the right match-ups.

Agreed not enough minutes to go around but if Daum wanted to come he would certainly battle (and probably win) for a starting spot alongside Tillie. He’d certainly play over Larsen and Filip. The kid is an AA for a reason.

willandi
12-14-2017, 07:29 PM
Isn't every Grad with a year of eligibility a potential grad transfer?

He has stated that he doesn't want to transfer, so how potential is he>

Bogozags
12-15-2017, 05:40 PM
Agreed not enough minutes to go around but if Daum wanted to come he would certainly battle (and probably win) for a starting spot alongside Tillie. He’d certainly play over Larsen and Filip. The kid is an AA for a reason.

Sure it’s all speculation and I hope he stays and plays there BUT he would an incredible add to a team that will be in the serious fight for an NC...that might be reason enough for him to look at GU “IF” he were to transfer...

jazzdelmar
12-16-2017, 03:38 AM
Sounds like Greggg at WSU is already buttering him up.....

Bogozags
12-16-2017, 04:24 AM
Sounds like Greggg at WSU is already buttering him up.....

Choice between staying or going to Wazzu...i’m Staying put

jazzdelmar
12-16-2017, 04:42 AM
Choice between staying or going to Wazzu...i’m Staying put

No, Wichita State Greggg.....offered high praise of Daum after their game.....

Bogozags
12-16-2017, 05:14 AM
No, Wichita State Greggg.....offered high praise of Daum after their game.....

Ah, yes now that would be a good move but would rather have him come here as we play for the NC next year...

thespywhozaggedme
12-16-2017, 05:37 AM
Ah, yes now that would be a good move but would rather have him come here as we play for the NC next year...

Again, this is extremely insensitive and offensive towards South Dakota State. He has shown no inclination whatsoever that he is going to transfer. You guys sound like a bunch of vultures.

DixieZag
12-16-2017, 06:36 AM
There is a very well-informed poster with an NSA bug in Few's mind and earlier this year he said to expect a BCS "blue book" elite transfer mid-season (obviously not eligible this season). if that's still the case, and the poster is rarely here much these days, then there's probably not room for a kid like this.

TexasZagFan
12-16-2017, 06:36 AM
Again, this is extremely insensitive and offensive towards South Dakota State. He has shown no inclination whatsoever that he is going to transfer. You guys sound like a bunch of vultures.

Joining the roster next year are Brandon Clarke and Filip Petrusev. Power forward is not a need.

Bogozags
12-16-2017, 07:03 AM
Again, this is extremely insensitive and offensive towards South Dakota State. He has shown no inclination whatsoever that he is going to transfer. You guys sound like a bunch of vultures.

Read post #16 of this thread...

GonzagasaurusFlex
12-16-2017, 08:14 AM
There is a very well-informed poster with an NSA bug in Few's mind and earlier this year he said to expect a BCS "blue book" elite transfer mid-season (obviously not eligible this season). if that's still the case, and the poster is rarely here much these days, then there's probably not room for a kid like this.

My guess is that BobZag is the poster you’re referring to but I’ve no idea who the transfer may be. If true, I guess we will learn who it is within the next Few weeks as 1st semester wraps up this week for every D1 school, if it hasn’t already.

thespywhozaggedme
12-16-2017, 09:10 AM
Read post #16 of this thread...

I did and I actually read the article itself yesterday morning. The entire article was extremely disrespectful to South Dakota State. It's almost as if Myron Medcalf is trying to persuade him to transfer with that article.

MontanaCoyote
12-16-2017, 09:33 AM
Forget it! This kid will either stay where he is or go NBA (.!)

seacatfan
12-16-2017, 10:33 AM
Daum dropped 37 points and added 12 rebounds in a 2OT loss to Colorado Friday night.

I agree w/ Spy, I don't like conjecturing about a player who has given no indication he intends to transfer. I'm absolutely convinced there is tampering that goes on in major college sports w/ regards to transfers. Until a player says he wants to transfer, nobody, be it fans, media, representatives of schools, has any business talking about that player perhaps going to another school. That's my opinion anyway (although I've probably been guilty of it myself--the fan part--so I guess I'm a hypocrite).

sittingon50
12-16-2017, 11:55 AM
--so I guess I'm a hypocrite).

It's a pretty big club that we're all a member of, cat.

Bogozags
12-16-2017, 02:07 PM
I did and I actually read the article itself yesterday morning. The entire article was extremely disrespectful to South Dakota State. It's almost as if Myron Medcalf is trying to persuade him to transfer with that article.

The article was as long as a book too!

Yes, it sure seemed as though Medcalf was attempting to persuade him to test the waters...if the kid is happy and as good as they say, then staying at SDSU would be the right thing to do...

There are a lot of graduating transfers that for one reason or another leave but to put those thoughts in a kid's head just isn't right...imo