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BobZag
12-03-2017, 10:38 AM
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12-05-2017, 11:16 AM
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ZagNative
12-05-2017, 01:07 PM
Listening to Meehan-Blanchette pregame show on KGA Radio 1510. Cannot wait for this game!

RenoZag
12-05-2017, 02:46 PM
The College Game Day crew are on-hand. . .pre-game has been a Nova love fest so far, along with a focus on Jimmy V fund raising

GonzagasaurusFlex
12-05-2017, 02:50 PM
The College Game Day crew are on-hand.

So annoyed by their pregame coverage. Lengthy discussion about how great Villanova is, particularly Brunson, followed by a very brief discussion of Gonzaga and likelihood of Nova turning them over with their press and double teams.

Please shut up the talking heads and win this game Zags!!!

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 02:55 PM
It would be cool if we win!

I am really really tired of hearing how great Nova is.

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 03:10 PM
How was that a foul on Tillie?

dan71w
12-05-2017, 03:11 PM
has it started?

Martin Centre Mad Man
12-05-2017, 03:13 PM
Norvell is growing up before our eyes.

Hoopaholic
12-05-2017, 03:13 PM
How was that a foul on Tillie?

Contact inside the defensive floor ring

RenoZag
12-05-2017, 03:13 PM
has it started?

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400986882

Yep. First media TO. . .

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 03:14 PM
has it started?

9-9 after first TV time out

And we should be leading. A missed travel on one Nova basket, questionable foul on Tillie

dan71w
12-05-2017, 03:14 PM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400986882

Yep. First media TO. . .

tyvm

23dpg
12-05-2017, 03:15 PM
Nova is one of my favorite teams. I believe Jay Wright does it right.

That said, Go Zags!!

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 03:15 PM
Zags switching ball screens with JIII getting tried out there often and early, got caught inside on Nova's 3

opportunities to score against the Nova pressure so far

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 03:18 PM
Nova loving the catch and shoot 3s

dan71w
12-05-2017, 03:18 PM
nice he should be our for rest of first half

Zagdawg
12-05-2017, 03:19 PM
Hachimura a liability early --missing Kispert.

Ekrub
12-05-2017, 03:19 PM
We are getting lucky with the calls. Need to capitalize

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 03:20 PM
Wow, we are not ourselves today

Nice JW

RenoZag
12-05-2017, 03:21 PM
Rui needs to grab some pine. . .take a breath. . .gets his feces amalgamated. . .

Too many turnovers, Zags. Sheesh

Ekrub
12-05-2017, 03:21 PM
Turnovers killing us

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 03:22 PM
We look "off"- and not just "playing against a good team" off.

We're not running, moving the ball quickly, all those things that made me think we were "good" when we played Florida

U Zig, I Zag
12-05-2017, 03:23 PM
TO’s are doomsday for this team. Gotta play precise.

Hoopaholic
12-05-2017, 03:23 PM
Outrebounding them
Out shooting them

To killing us so far and it is everyone but
Melson

gonzagafan62
12-05-2017, 03:24 PM
Turnovers.... can we please not turn the bball over??? Please????

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 03:24 PM
Zags dug over the top og the screen with Silas for the first time, don't know if that's his matchup or team wide will now do that

Rui had some creases, hope he can finsish next time

Sarenyon
12-05-2017, 03:25 PM
Just some bad, sloppy play.

U Zig, I Zag
12-05-2017, 03:25 PM
My goodness.

U Zig, I Zag
12-05-2017, 03:26 PM
Nice movement.

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 03:27 PM
Lets go Jacob! That;s our mismatch tonight.

mtzaga
12-05-2017, 03:28 PM
Larsen has good hands.

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 03:28 PM
Uhg, ticky tack calls.

mtzaga
12-05-2017, 03:29 PM
Bilasí bias is showing.

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 03:29 PM
They can go over the back on the rebound... but we get these ticky tack calls against?

U Zig, I Zag
12-05-2017, 03:30 PM
Danger zone here.

jazzdelmar
12-05-2017, 03:30 PM
Many of these guys played in a NC gm. You’d never know it

Hoopaholic
12-05-2017, 03:30 PM
They can go over the back on the rebound... but we get these ticky tack calls against?

Big no call momentum shift

NEC26
12-05-2017, 03:31 PM
Lots of whistles

katman50
12-05-2017, 03:31 PM
Bilas’ bias is showing.

I have it muted. Can't take it.

Zagdawg
12-05-2017, 03:31 PM
When the real Zag team shows up----please direct them to the arena.

We have gotten the benefit from a number of fouls also-- just need to work on taking care of the ball.

Zerogame
12-05-2017, 03:32 PM
Ha there been a big man for the Zags with better hands than Larson in the past 10 or 12 years?

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 03:32 PM
Oh man, that's some terrible officiating.

U Zig, I Zag
12-05-2017, 03:33 PM
This is going to go south fast.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 03:33 PM
tough stretch for JP there on both ends all of the sudden, maybe needs a blow

Zagdawg
12-05-2017, 03:35 PM
Give Wade a shot--he cant be worse than the current options.

Saxon_zag
12-05-2017, 03:35 PM
Our guards are scared puppies... but my dog takes care of the ball better.

katman50
12-05-2017, 03:35 PM
Hard to watch.

jpn17
12-05-2017, 03:35 PM
Easily the worst Gonzaga has played this year. Nothing Villanova is doing, GU just not playing well.

Saxon_zag
12-05-2017, 03:36 PM
We suck lol biting on every ball fake. Not ready for MSG or a top 5 team. Reality freaking check.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 03:36 PM
Why am I craving apple turnovers? Who knows?

Hoopaholic
12-05-2017, 03:36 PM
Easily the worst Gonzaga has played this year. Nothing Villanova is doing, GU just not playing well.

Agree. No spark no intensity. Silly passes. Lack communication in defensive assignments

CarolinaZagFan
12-05-2017, 03:36 PM
Wow playing like a High School team out there. Please get it together.

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 03:36 PM
We've had rough starts before, there is a disproportionate number of offensive fouls though. Going to have to adjust to these refs on the fly. Bang hard on the rebounds other wise be aware of the little stuff getting called.

Take care of the ball and start getting it inside and we will be fine.

katman50
12-05-2017, 03:37 PM
Nothing Villanova is doing, GU just not playing well.

I beg to differ. Nova is playing lights out.

gonzagafan62
12-05-2017, 03:37 PM
Turnovers.... can we please not turn the bball over??? Please????

Guess not

Birddog
12-05-2017, 03:37 PM
School is in session and the Zags are in attendance!

jazzdelmar
12-05-2017, 03:37 PM
Zags shooting 54%. Amazing what sloppy balhandling can cost.

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 03:37 PM
We suck lol biting on every ball fake. Not ready for MSG or a top 5 team. Reality freaking check.

A lot of game left.

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 03:37 PM
Sad. We are looking exactly as bad as the villanova message boards say we are.

They arent looking great... we just look pathetic out there. Do we really miss Kispert this much?

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 03:37 PM
I have said all year that we're not a top 8 team and this affirms everything that worried me.

It's not helping that ticky tack fouls have put us in "No Defense" mode already, nor is it helping that Few recognized it way too late and went to the zone way too late.

But, we're not even looking like we want to compete. This is shades of Zags versus Memphis and other great outtings in which we looked like we didn't belong on the same floor.

gonzagafan62
12-05-2017, 03:37 PM
I beg to differ. Nova is playing lights out.

Yes but we are buying on everything and making terrible decisions, almost to the point of playing scared

jazzdelmar
12-05-2017, 03:38 PM
Why am I craving apple turnovers? Who knows?

Glad you said it first. Big Apple turnovers.

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 03:38 PM
I beg to differ. Nova is playing lights out.

They really aren't though.

demian
12-05-2017, 03:38 PM
These first 12 minutes of this game have been pathetic. I could list the numerous reasons for this statement but I’m sure you all know the reasons and don’t need me to point them out. I don’t mean to be overly critical of the team but it is what it is. Guys gotta dig in and battle or it’s gonna be an embarrassing loss.

bigblahla
12-05-2017, 03:38 PM
Zags just like a deer in the headlights....Sad to watch..

Go!! Zags!!!

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 03:39 PM
We are getting good looks when we don't turn it over.

Saxon_zag
12-05-2017, 03:39 PM
Norvells a chuckerrrrrr

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 03:39 PM
sloppy ball handling and the freshmen Zach and Rui are really playing like freshmen so far

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 03:40 PM
Norvell back to missing WIDE OPEN THREES

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 03:41 PM
Norvells a chuckerrrrrr

You are brutal, seriously the most annoying person on this board by far. A cancer.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 03:41 PM
We are getting good looks when we don't turn it over.

yep, but missing

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 03:41 PM
####ing rebound!!!

Saxon_zag
12-05-2017, 03:42 PM
Your point guard "pure shooter" missing the front end... This is a lovely half

zagfan24
12-05-2017, 03:42 PM
Need to stop shooting behind NBA line.

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 03:42 PM
Embarrassing ourselves on the biggest stage

ZagsObserver
12-05-2017, 03:43 PM
Nova has a 90 percent win probability already. Nothing to lose, guys, just play hard and smart.

jazzdelmar
12-05-2017, 03:44 PM
Is “bad” Josh back to stay

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 03:44 PM
This could easily be a lot worse. As bad as the Zags look 'Nova is not exactly running away with the game. If they can limp into halftime down around 10, plenty of game left to regroup. They were down 7 at the break against Creighton and thrashed them in the 2nd half.

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 03:45 PM
Is “bad” Josh back to stay

Did the Monstars steal his shooting ability?

23dpg
12-05-2017, 03:45 PM
Zags had 10 turnovers before the 10 minute mark. Either they clean that up and get competitive or maybe set some kind of NCAA record.

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 03:45 PM
These game threads are funny, all this Chicken Littles running around like we have the worst team ever anytime there is any adversity. This is a team of young guys who are going to go through their lows as well as their highs, they arn't going undefeated this season and there is a whole lot of game left, one run and we are back in the game. Once we adjust to their size we will turn it over left and this will end up a competitive game.

And if it doesn't?

It's one game, and a learning experience that will only make us better as the season rolls along.

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 03:45 PM
Nova has a 90 percent win probability already. Nothing to lose, guys, just play hard and smart.

They don't look like they're having any fun out there at all. No fire

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 03:46 PM
Nova has a 90 percent win probability already. Nothing to lose, guys, just play hard and smart.

they 're getting looks but they're all sped up, hopefully they can adjust to this tempo and hit some of these good looks as the game wears on

Zagdawg
12-05-2017, 03:46 PM
Our bigs left their hops at home--gotta be dunking at 2 feet.

Saxon_zag
12-05-2017, 03:47 PM
You are brutal, seriously the most annoying person on this board by far. A cancer.

Sorry, Norvells jumper looks great this game.

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 03:47 PM
OK, now it's got a lot worse.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 03:47 PM
These game threads are funny, all this Chicken Littles running around like we have the worst team ever anytime there is any adversity. This is a team of young guys who are going to go through their lows as well as their highs, they arn't going undefeated this season and there is a whole lot of game left, one run and we are back in the game. Once we adjust to their size we will turn it over left and this will end up a competitive game.

And if it doesn't?

It's one game, and a learning experience that will only make us better as the season rolls along.

it's true but you get to see who everyone really is under duress like this, revealing imo

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 03:49 PM
Make your 3 free throws and we cut this lead down...

23dpg
12-05-2017, 03:49 PM
Get it down to single digits!

Saxon_zag
12-05-2017, 03:53 PM
These game threads are funny, all this Chicken Littles running around like we have the worst team ever anytime there is any adversity. This is a team of young guys who are going to go through their lows as well as their highs, they arn't going undefeated this season and there is a whole lot of game left, one run and we are back in the game. Once we adjust to their size we will turn it over left and this will end up a competitive game.

And if it doesn't?

It's one game, and a learning experience that will only make us better as the season rolls along.

Games threads always go with the flow of the game. Sorry Norvell missed 3 open jumpers in a row and took a bad charge and Perkins last good half was the 1st half of the Texas game. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

Ekrub
12-05-2017, 03:53 PM
Think our rim is a little stiffer. Maybe some of these shots will fall on the other end

Zagger14
12-05-2017, 03:53 PM
What I was scared of.. Team has holes this year and teams like Nova are going to smack them around.

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 03:54 PM
Well, they have their work cut out for them. Finally cut down on the TO's the last few minutes of the half. Gotta limit the O boards for Nova in the 2nd half.

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 03:55 PM
12 Turnovers, down 13... we have a good enough Offense to make those points up in a hurry.
Lets clean it up and have some fun and real them in.

The Slipper Still Fits baby.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 03:55 PM
More turnovers than baskets.
Nothing more needs to be said.

jpn17
12-05-2017, 03:55 PM
Not a good first half obviously. Here's hoping they have a run in them. They might not be better than Villanova, but they are better than how they played in the first 20 mins.

Club Prez
12-05-2017, 03:56 PM
These game threads are funny, all this Chicken Littles running around like we have the worst team ever anytime there is any adversity. This is a team of young guys who are going to go through their lows as well as their highs, they arn't going undefeated this season and there is a whole lot of game left, one run and we are back in the game. Once we adjust to their size we will turn it over left and this will end up a competitive game.

And if it doesn't?

It's one game, and a learning experience that will only make us better as the season rolls along.

I agree with all the above and ZN needs to learn what a good shot is.

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 03:56 PM
11 fgs made, 12 turnovers.. yikes.

It reminds me of the GU vs Duke game years back when i was excited about GU's team.

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 03:56 PM
Norvell missed some open 3's, but had a couple nice drives. Larsen had a fairly strong showing.

Hoopaholic
12-05-2017, 03:57 PM
Tillie with zero. Need him become active

Norvell defensive angles and assignments needs to be addressed

Birddog
12-05-2017, 03:59 PM
I agree with all the above and ZN needs to learn what a good shot is.

He took one a little too early in the clock but he has been wide open for the most part, he's just missing 'em.

sittingon50
12-05-2017, 03:59 PM
Larsen earning himself a lot more minutes down the road, methinks.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 03:59 PM
Well, they have their work cut out for them. Finally cut down on the TO's the last few minutes of the half. Gotta limit the O boards for Nova in the 2nd half.

the o boards popped up big when Zags went zone but maybe the Zags have adjusted to the tempo a bit. we'll see right away second half

dan71w
12-05-2017, 03:59 PM
for me, i have never liked playing back east, it feels like either officiating, or media bias always against us.
*edit, at least when we play back there. just my tin hat

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:00 PM
Tillie, Perkins and Williams --- where you guys at???

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 04:00 PM
it's true but you get to see who everyone really is under duress like this, revealing imo

I would just throw out there that this isn't the type of "under duress" that reveals much, other than obsessive "fanatics." As long as personal attacks don't start popping up.

Jazz is right, though. Nova is one hell of a smart team. Each mistake we made, they were right there to capitalize on it. They are making it look awfully easy, like barely breaking a sweat.

Goshzagit
12-05-2017, 04:00 PM
Just had deja vu of Illinois circa 2002.

But at least we played with some energy/life that game.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 04:01 PM
for me, i have never liked playing back east, it feels like either officiating, or media bias always against us.

The only thing against them in this game is the basketball.

jazzdelmar
12-05-2017, 04:01 PM
Should cool all the NBA talk for a while. At least until they play the dwarves and rain points.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:01 PM
Zags with 5 different players with 2 turnovers each
some great looks both inside and out with dimes being dropped with no finish, that has got to change with JIII and Tillie a combined 3 shots

RenoZag
12-05-2017, 04:02 PM
At some point, there was a mention during the broadcast ( pregame?) on ESPN that GU had lost 8 consecutive match-ups vs. Top 5 teams. . .looks like number 9 is unfolding in the world's greatest arena tonight.

Can't see many glimmers of hope in that first half performance. Larsen and Norvell the Zags leading scorers, 7 points each.

Stats: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400986882

We'll see if they have a second half run in them. Too bad Kispert can't go. Missing his presence.

azzagfan
12-05-2017, 04:02 PM
Wright has a great game plan. Apply pressure smartly. Double down on baseline when Tillie and J3 catch as they are prone to turnovers. They've got 12 more shot attempts based on O rebounds and TO differential. Tough to lose if you're taking 12 more shots than your opponent.

Definitely need Tillie and J3 to pick up the intensity and emotion in 2nd half.

TacomaZAG
12-05-2017, 04:02 PM
Hard to post while holding my nose..........

Still have 20 minutes to make it OK. First 5 minutes of the second half will tell the tale. Get it down to 7 or less and we got a game.

Go ZAGS

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 04:02 PM
The Good News is that Creighton made us look almost just as bad in the first half!!

:)

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:02 PM
I would just throw out there that this isn't the type of "under duress" that reveals much, other than obsessive "fanatics." As long as personal attacks don't start popping up.

Jazz is right, though. Nova is one hell of a smart team. Each mistake we made, they were right there to capitalize on it. They are making it look awfully easy, like barely breaking a sweat.

don't get your panties all in a huff...do you like that?

tinfoilzag
12-05-2017, 04:03 PM
Villinova's game is such a bad product, similar to the NBA.

Dibble 10 seconds into the offense, ISO, chuck up something, crash boards. No flow, no passing outside of a kickout.

Also similar to NBA - shuffling feet, carrying the ball, coming over the top on rebounds, all allowed.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:03 PM
the tough guy behind the keypboard stuff that was going on is revealing and not necessary imo, but I get some can't help themselves

scrooner
12-05-2017, 04:04 PM
Has the game started? First half just looks like we're playing warm-up speed.

CarolinaZagFan
12-05-2017, 04:04 PM
Jason Williams just made a great point about not having anyone that makes the game easier for everybody else. Honestly I think Kispert has a lot of that in him. Sure could use him tonight.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 04:04 PM
Villinova's game is such a bad product, similar to the NBA.

Dibble 10 seconds into the offense, ISO, chuck up something, crash boards. No flow, no passing outside of a kickout.

Also similar to NBA - shuffling feet, carrying the ball, coming over the top on rebounds, all allowed.

Huh? You and I see the game differently.

whatazag
12-05-2017, 04:05 PM
We don't look prepared. I don't blame the coaches in the case, even the broadcasters knew that Few tried to put in place a good game plan for Nova (like don't bite every single time on shot fakes), but its clear that once they get on the floor, a lot of the coaching is going out the window.

MontanaCoyote
12-05-2017, 04:06 PM
A ways to go, but this is the first time this season I've felt that last year's team would be in much better shape at this point in the game. Hoping for needed adjustments. Team just needs to settle down, I think.

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 04:07 PM
don't get your panties all in a huff...do you like that?

No, I didn't like that, not at all. I am not defending him, and his response to you demonstrated as much as the talk before.

I was referring to the "general fan" - including myself, is not best judged whilst his team gets his ass kicked.

I appreciate your in-game notes.

Perhaps Few has a speech and game plan like the one he delivered on Friday night.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:08 PM
We don't look prepared. I don't blame the coaches in the case, even the broadcasters knew that Few tried to put in place a good game plan for Nova (like don't bite every single time on shot fakes), but its clear that once they get on the floor, a lot of the coaching is going out the window.

how do you simulate that tempo in practice? hard to do. hopefully the boys have adjusted. seems like Zach did, played better. JP had a few more dimes if the finishing was better.

gonzagafan62
12-05-2017, 04:08 PM
Villinova's game is such a bad product, similar to the NBA.

Dibble 10 seconds into the offense, ISO, chuck up something, crash boards. No flow, no passing outside of a kickout.

Also similar to NBA - shuffling feet, carrying the ball, coming over the top on rebounds, all allowed.

Yeah this isn't accurate at all

Stache
12-05-2017, 04:08 PM
We always cough up a clunker around finals. Just too bad it’s on a big stage. The value of a single steadying influence like Nigel can’t be under estimated.

scrooner
12-05-2017, 04:08 PM
Ha there been a big man for the Zags with better hands than Larson in the past 10 or 12 years?

No doubt. Makes catches in a crowd, while JWIII missing passes while all by himself.

Outraged
12-05-2017, 04:10 PM
When our shots go in all these problems are immaterial.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:10 PM
No, I didn't like that, not at all. I am not defending him, and his response to you demonstrated as much as the talk before.

I was referring to the "general fan" - including myself, is not best judged whilst his team gets his ass kicked.

I appreciate your in-game notes.

Perhaps Few has a speech and game plan like the one he delivered on Friday night.

right on, I hear you Dixie :cheers:

hope you're right about the halftime speech and adjustements

tinfoilzag
12-05-2017, 04:11 PM
Yeah this isn't accurate at all

You think it is fun to watch? Which part is inaccurate?

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:11 PM
Probably not a good sign that Nova did that while missing Brunson for most of the 1st half.

Malastein
12-05-2017, 04:11 PM
Hard to win with an offense that isn’t on the same page and a team not working hard on the boards.

Bogozags
12-05-2017, 04:11 PM
We are just so young and are making freshman mistakes...Rui sure isnít showing he is ready for prime time and Zach just doesnít yet know how to play against pressure fefence

RenoZag
12-05-2017, 04:12 PM
JWIII's ball-handling brings back (bad) memories of when Sacre used to bring the ball down below his waist

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:13 PM
Great. JW turns it over again and gets his 3 foul

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:13 PM
Nova pressures which is gambling. Can the Zags collectively make them pay for it?

FuManShoes
12-05-2017, 04:13 PM
These first 12 minutes of this game have been pathetic. I could list the numerous reasons for this statement but Iím sure you all know the reasons and donít need me to point them out. I donít mean to be overly critical of the team but it is what it is. Guys gotta dig in and battle or itís gonna be an embarrassing loss.

Pathetic is a very good word for this. What are they doing? Where's the leadership from anyone? Show some heart.

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 04:13 PM
How is that a foul!?

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:13 PM
Wow, Williams picked up #4. Might be better off w/ Larsen tonight though.

mtzaga
12-05-2017, 04:13 PM
Bad call.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:13 PM
Great. JW turns it over again and gets his 3 foul

brutal

Stache
12-05-2017, 04:13 PM
JW and Tillie assert in first 5 mins and there’s a chance....

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 04:14 PM
Ok - that's a joke. That call on JWIII was ridiculous. And there was all kinds of harm he did on it from the floor

Thanks, refs.

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:14 PM
Great pass by Larsen in to Tillie for a bucket. I really like Jakob!

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:14 PM
JW out for most of this game

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:16 PM
single digits, game not over yet!

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:16 PM
Can we please hit a wide open three? we have missed about 10

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 04:16 PM
Single digits! Lets go!

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:17 PM
Tillie coming to life

RenoZag
12-05-2017, 04:18 PM
If "signs of life" is the best thing the announcer can say about your team, it's not a compliment

Hoopaholic
12-05-2017, 04:18 PM
Ok - that's a joke. That call on JWIII was ridiculous. And there was all kinds of harm he did on it from the floor

Thanks, refs.
Once again any contact inside the defensive circle no matter who initiates is a defensive foul

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:19 PM
Bridges hurting us...

At least there is a little glimmer of life from the zags this half.

NEC26
12-05-2017, 04:20 PM
Larson has been substantially better then JW3 in this game.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 04:20 PM
Once again any contact inside the defensive circle no matter who initiates is a defensive foul

Is that true? I don’t think that’s accurate.

demian
12-05-2017, 04:20 PM
Pathetic is a very good word for this. What are they doing? Where's the leadership from anyone? Show some heart.

Finally showing a bit of a pulse now as we are only down 10 with 16 minutes to go. Each player Really needs to identify the difference of intensity level that nova is giving at all times vs what we are giving. Iím not trying to be critical but each guy needs to match the level of intensity that there counterpart is giving and then we will be able to make this competitive. Itís a good lesson for our players to learn

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:21 PM
Zags with the pieces inside to control tempo as long as they convert at high ratio to slow Nova down.
better so far but the pressing teams are looking for those spurts, can't let them have even one this half

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:23 PM
Cant effin fall asleep on defense.

MontanaCoyote
12-05-2017, 04:25 PM
Brunson is Goss

23dpg
12-05-2017, 04:25 PM
Good things that happen when JP drives inside......give me a minute.

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:25 PM
News Flash-- our bigs cant dribble the basketball.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 04:27 PM
Guys, as bad as we’re playing, it’s only 9 points.

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 04:27 PM
Single digits, still over 10 to play.... if Josh can heat up from 3... we got a shot!

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 04:28 PM
Once again any contact inside the defensive circle no matter who initiates is a defensive foul

Not buying it. At best it's a no call. The guy was dribbling him down and then jumped right into him. Both players were already standing in the lane. You can tell me it's not a foul to jump into JWIII, you can't tell me (and have me believe it) that it's a foul on JWIII to happen to be standing there when the guy jumps straight into him.

Hoopaholic
12-05-2017, 04:28 PM
Is that true? I donít think thatís accurate.

Yep unless flagrant offense gets free movement in that zone

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:28 PM
Booth doesn't jump out at you but he's a good ball player. I think he, Bridges and Brunson are the only contributors from the '16 Championship left for Nova.

jazzdelmar
12-05-2017, 04:28 PM
Brunson is Goss

Not as good. But close.

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 04:29 PM
Yep unless flagrant offense gets free movement in that zone

So you've got to affirmatively get out of his way when he jumps into you?

Hoopaholic
12-05-2017, 04:29 PM
Not buying it. At best it's a no call. The guy was dribbling him down and then jumped right into him. Both players were already standing in the lane. You can tell me it's not a foul to jump into JWIII, you can't tell me (and have me believe it) that it's a foul on JWIII to happen to be standing there when the guy jumps straight into him.

Ok feel free to ignore the freedom of movement for offense rule when out in 3 years ago I said it will impact good defense

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:31 PM
Zags staying out of the zone and Larsen showing quick feet along with those great hands in M2M

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:31 PM
Tillie and Larsen are really playing well together tonight. Leave JWIII on the bench the rest of the way.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 04:32 PM
Ok feel free to ignore the freedom of movement for offense rule when out in 3 years ago I said it will impact good defense

I thought the line was for help defense, not the primary defender.

Hoopaholic
12-05-2017, 04:32 PM
So you've got to affirmatively get out of his way when he jumps into you?

If inside arc yes contact outside flagrant impacting offenses freedom of movement is a foul. Stupid rule IMO

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:32 PM
toughness test the rest of the way

turn up the toughness meter

RenoZag
12-05-2017, 04:33 PM
Nova guards will seal the deal.

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:33 PM
Huge non rebound there on Brunsons second miss

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 04:33 PM
Have we had a free throw this half?

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:34 PM
HUGE HUGE HUGE non rebound. Get the damn rebound--- leads to a 3 point play

Saxon_zag
12-05-2017, 04:34 PM
Glad we didn't fade this half.. Need some more stops. Larsen giving good minutes

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:34 PM
wow Brunson ay be Goss but Nigel didn't get those breathing fouls in the championship game!

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:34 PM
That hurt. Bridges making a huge impact on this game.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 04:35 PM
The area is officially known as the "restricted area" (RA) in the NBA, the "restricted area arc" in the NCAA and the "no-charge semicircles" in FIBA. Its purpose is to stop secondary defenders from taking a position under the basket in an attempt to draw the offensive foul when a player is driving to the basket.

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 04:35 PM
Sorry, but there was a lot of hand on that swat against Tillie.

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:35 PM
Bridges killing us on both ends. Back to 12

Ekrub
12-05-2017, 04:36 PM
Tillie playing horribly.

Ekrub
12-05-2017, 04:38 PM
BTW I'd be perfectly happy never playing in the garden again

Stache
12-05-2017, 04:39 PM
Tillie, Rui, Larsen and our 6’ 8” transfer will be great next year!!!!

demian
12-05-2017, 04:39 PM
One team gave the intensity needed for a real basketball game matching two of the top 12 teams in the country and the other team gave the intensity in this game like it was an AAU losers round consolation game on a late Sunday afternoon

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:40 PM
Either we make the dumbest fouls in the world or these refs are blind

Zagdawg
12-05-2017, 04:41 PM
On a positive note--- with all of the scouts in attendance--we get to keep Tillie and Rui for a while longer.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 04:41 PM
JP made that harder than he needed it to be.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:41 PM
why no replays on all these fouls? when a duke player commits a foul it's reviewed from every angle to confirm or deny it's veracity

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 04:42 PM
Hope we have another run in us.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:42 PM
then boom close one on Nova instanly replayed

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:43 PM
Refs have asserted their will, now zero flow to this game.

Zagger
12-05-2017, 04:44 PM
Well, I'm liking the contributions Larsen is making.

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:44 PM
Whats sad is i dont even think Nova looks that good. But we have 50 points in 32 minutes of play..

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:45 PM
For all the talk about Rui's potential w/ his length and athleticism...Bridges has been awesome this game. Don't know if Rui's ceiling is similar, but he has a LONG way to go to get there.

Zagdawg
12-05-2017, 04:45 PM
Bridges making the scouts take note.

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 04:45 PM
We've looked intimidated from the opening jump. No urgency.

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 04:46 PM
Bridges is the best player on the floor bar none.

Sarenyon
12-05-2017, 04:46 PM
Bridges playing great. Too bad we are not.

jazzdelmar
12-05-2017, 04:46 PM
If Larsen isn’t starting next game, something’s fishy in Denmark.

MDABE80
12-05-2017, 04:46 PM
Worst game management of the season. I'm not talking about Few either.

Skimhvn
12-05-2017, 04:46 PM
Boring game.

FuManShoes
12-05-2017, 04:47 PM
The difference is Bridges knows how to play basketball.

gonzagafan62
12-05-2017, 04:47 PM
If Larsen isn’t starting next game, something’s fishy in Denmark.

This

jazzdelmar
12-05-2017, 04:47 PM
For all the talk about Rui's potential w/ his length and athleticism...Bridges has been awesome this game. Don't know if Rui's ceiling is similar, but he has a LONG way to go to get there.

Bridges is a ball PLAYER.

Hoopaholic
12-05-2017, 04:47 PM
Youth has raised its head today

demian
12-05-2017, 04:48 PM
Good for that Mikel Bridges guy. Itís honestly pretty cool to see a player play with that kind of fire burning inside him and making it a personal mission to humiliate anybody in an opposing jersey color. I like it.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 04:49 PM
Youth has raised its head today

quite, and getting schooled for it

Zagceo
12-05-2017, 04:49 PM
Perkins needs to sit.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 04:50 PM
Bills is correct about nova causing the discord. That play was not a good example though. Unforced TO. Bad pass.

bigblahla
12-05-2017, 04:50 PM
Perkins needs to sit.

+1

Zagceo
12-05-2017, 04:51 PM
Williams needs to sit.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 04:53 PM
Perkins is far from perfect but who could handle the Nova pressure on the Zags bench?

23dpg
12-05-2017, 04:56 PM
Turning into a tweetfest.

demian
12-05-2017, 04:56 PM
Good job Melson, Norvell and Larson tonight. You are the only three that looked like you belonged on that floor tonight and looked like you actually were interested in battling

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:56 PM
A bit surprising Zags are only down 12, as bad as they've looked much of the night. Moral victory?

raise the zag
12-05-2017, 04:56 PM
This is precisely the type of game/opponent where NWG is sorely missed.

I'll leave it at that and won't mention it again.

I also question leadership on the floor with this squad. Some of our young guys have the ability, just not ready.

I think Kispert is missed for more than the obvious reasons, such as depth and offense, but rather how smart and controlled he plays with the ball and with the team.

He is the grease in the wheel in half-court sets.

At this point, the game is over, I say put in Rui, Larsen, Norvell and let them log some mins in this environment. See what sticks and what doesn't.

At least we know for certain Perkins is returning next season. Tillie should. Rui absolutely should.

Meanwhille, Zags get hyped, yet Nova hasn't had an early entrant since what, Lowry?

Zagceo
12-05-2017, 04:56 PM
These refs can’t let a game happen...

Zagceo
12-05-2017, 04:57 PM
Good

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:57 PM
Not JWIII's night, better off having Larsen out there.

Sarenyon
12-05-2017, 04:57 PM
Ridiculous

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:58 PM
OK, I've never seen a bump set in a basketball game before.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 04:58 PM
Williams is with 5 points isnít good. But zero rebounds?

Saxon_zag
12-05-2017, 04:58 PM
How many pump fakes can make us look bad? J3 needs to be more heady out there.. Why are you jumping with 4?

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 04:58 PM
Jeez, last 4 1/2 minutes is gonna take about 20 minutes at this rate.

gonzagafan62
12-05-2017, 04:59 PM
I didn't pay to watch the officials

DixieZag
12-05-2017, 04:59 PM
Good job Melson, Norvell and Larson tonight. You are the only three that looked like you belonged on that floor tonight and looked like you actually were interested in battling

This was the real problem with the game.

We looked too afraid to really play with them. The opposite of Florida.

That, no energy, and some really quick whistles at the beginning of the game.

AGainst a much better team.

raise the zag
12-05-2017, 05:00 PM
A bit surprising Zags are only down 12, as bad as they've looked much of the night. Moral victory?

if they get within single digits, sure, why not.

Otherwise, this was embarrasing for our program, the players, recruits, and our national brand/perception/identity.

This team doesn't belong on the court tonight. Not mentally ready, nor in it to win it. Zero toughness save for a few. Just tired, listless, and overwhelmed. No true leader, yet.

If the Committee is watching, this game cost us a line or two, because no matter what we do in WCC, these are the moments that matter for us.

Just terrible performance. Larsen gets credit, Norvell for some aggression, and Melson on defense. Otherwise, crap.

Take long, hot showers, wash off the gross game. SLEEP for goodness sake. Get ready for Washington, who is chomping at the bit.

Haven't been this dissappointed since Illinois game over 15 yrs ago.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 05:01 PM
Good job Melson, Norvell and Larson tonight. You are the only three that looked like you belonged on that floor tonight and looked like you actually were interested in battling

JP battling too come on

raise the zag
12-05-2017, 05:01 PM
Williams is with 5 points isn’t good. But zero rebounds?

did not show up. no one was really ready. were the coaches even?

Larsen, norvell, Melson trying to play catch up.

Can't even watch. Had to turn it off.

bballbeachbum
12-05-2017, 05:01 PM
Silas got screwed on a coupe of calls tonight down the stretch here

Saxon_zag
12-05-2017, 05:02 PM
Perkins lolollol

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 05:02 PM
Really Josh?

gonzagafan62
12-05-2017, 05:02 PM
Idk that Duke game where we scored like 44 or something was much worse. That one killed me for weeks

JAGzag
12-05-2017, 05:03 PM
Perkins! What. The. Hell....was that?!

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 05:03 PM
I'll live w/ Norvell's mistakes a growing pains. He's a baller.

Saxon_zag
12-05-2017, 05:03 PM
Go up on the other side of the rim he can't block both sides... Our pg plays scared and is prone to bone headed plays...

bigblahla
12-05-2017, 05:03 PM
Cant' beat good teams without a floor general....what the hell kind of play was that?


Go!! Zags!!

Zagdawg
12-05-2017, 05:03 PM
Hope they give Bridges a block on the "scare" TO of Perkins.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 05:03 PM
Silas got screwed on a coupe of calls tonight down the stretch here

Yeah, most of the calls were ok but Silas did seem to get penalized for playing good D. The reason he went flying and Brunson didn’t was that he initiated the contact.

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 05:03 PM
That perkins "layup" was pretty indicative of the game.

Zagceo
12-05-2017, 05:03 PM
Perkins gassed.....will Few take him out?

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 05:04 PM
Perkins! What. The. Hell....was that?!

I didn't know there were turf monsters on basketball courts, but looks like one reached out and got him.

23dpg
12-05-2017, 05:05 PM
That perkins "layup" was pretty indicative of the game.

Shot attempt or turnover? Hard to say.

Kong-Kool-Aid
12-05-2017, 05:06 PM
We deserved to lose clearly but these refs completely ruined this game.

Lets learn from this and adjust and get better, lots of games left and I like our odds to win the vast majority of them.

zagsfanforlife
12-05-2017, 05:06 PM
Wow we got our ARSE kicked

seacatfan
12-05-2017, 05:06 PM
Idk that Duke game where we scored like 44 or something was much worse. That one killed me for weeks

Yeah, that one was a stinker. Looked like they thought they had no chance of winning, before the game even started.