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caduceus
12-01-2017, 05:27 AM
Zags got the defense, Creighton's got the offense. KenPom Predictor suggests an 84-77 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Creighton&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=false) win for the good guys. Three of the Four Factors goes to the visitors, but it's close.



Summary:
https://i.imgur.com/YWeWMjo.png



Nitty Gritty:
https://i.imgur.com/bZU2w4B.png


Efficiency Stats:
https://i.imgur.com/eZOxPhf.png


source: teamrankings.com (https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/matchup/bluejays-bulldogs-2017-12-01)

Zagdawg
12-01-2017, 05:44 AM
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Rumor is that Gonzaga has a good student section.
Cool! We have a good basketball team.
I wonder who’ll score more points...

willandi
12-01-2017, 05:47 AM
I don't begin to understand what all of that means, but thank you for putting it together.

One thing I don't see is a total number of turnovers. Creighton has the advantage there, but with Tillie and J3 each having 6 in one game, that has to skew the statistics some.

I expect a good, hard fought game. Zags probably open a bit of margin and the Jays make it closer at the end.

I still expect the Zags to win.

GonzagasaurusFlex
12-01-2017, 06:40 AM
Thanks caduceus. My takeaway keys to a Zags W:
- attack the glass for offensive rebounds (no dumb over the back fouls though please)
- minimize turnovers!

...and of course continue the fantastic defensive intensity and unselfish ball movement!!

zagdontzig
12-01-2017, 06:46 AM
I don't begin to understand what all of that means, but thank you for putting it together.

One thing I don't see is a total number of turnovers. Creighton has the advantage there, but with Tillie and J3 each having 6 in one game, that has to skew the statistics some.

I expect a good, hard fought game. Zags probably open a bit of margin and the Jays make it closer at the end.

I still expect the Zags to win.

Not only do they have less turnovers, but somehow manage to do it with more assists. That's a little scary, and that while our defensive FG% is better, our defensive rebounds are worse. Seems like we're giving up second change points.

I guess what I'm saying is, the sky *maybe falling.

Zagdawg
12-01-2017, 06:57 AM
3. Creighton at Gonzaga: Love this game. Love. Love. If the Gonzaga administration could have its pick of any conference, it would play in the Big East in men’s basketball. The Zags fit the profile. The only problem is something called geography. But Gonzaga would love to show Big East commissioner Val Ackerman this week that the Zags can be a player in this conference by playing Creighton (the closest team in the Big East to Spokane, which is still hours away by air) and then Villanova Tuesday in New York at the Jimmy V Classic at MSG. The odds are incredibly slim it would ever happen (a move to the Mountain West as a non-football member would be the most likely if it ever would happen that Gonzaga would change leagues). Still, it’s something to ponder. As for this game, the Zags and Bluejays will get out and run. Marcus Foster will be a tough matchup, but so too, will Josh Perkins for the Bluejays. Creighton’s Khryi Thomas has been a big-time scorer this season, but so has Gonzaga’s Johnathan Williams. The hope here is that this is a game played in the 80s or 90s and down to the final possession.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-12-01/college-basketball-today-big-ten-starts-conference-play

willandi
12-01-2017, 07:15 AM
Not only do they have less turnovers, but somehow manage to do it with more assists. That's a little scary, and that while our defensive FG% is better, our defensive rebounds are worse. Seems like we're giving up second change points.

I guess what I'm saying is, the sky *maybe falling.

True, but how much are the turnover numbers skewed by the anomaly of 12 TO's in one game by J3 and Tillie?

Zag365
12-01-2017, 11:19 AM
Not only do we share similar stats, records, top-25 ranking, Jesuit education, we also share the same colors. Fortunately our nickname and mascot give us an edge.

caduceus
12-01-2017, 10:12 PM
Plus-minus for the game:

Melson: +15
Williams: +10
Perkins: +17
Norvell: +21
Tillie: +23
Larsen: +5
Hachimura: -2
Jones: -2