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Coach Crazy
06-30-2017, 05:54 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/thunder-trade-serge-ibaka-to-magic-for-oladipo-no-11-pick-grades-takeaways/amp/


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23dpg
06-30-2017, 05:55 PM
with VICTOR O for George. Better?

primal23
06-30-2017, 05:56 PM
Glad I can stop following the thunder!


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willandi
06-30-2017, 06:04 PM
with VICTOR O for George. Better?


Glad I can stop following the thunder!


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AMEN!!!!

Rangerzag
06-30-2017, 06:57 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19778834/paul-george-traded-indiana-pacers-oklahoma-city-thunder

Kong-Kool-Aid
06-30-2017, 07:06 PM
Is this a beneficial move for Sabonis? Seemed like the Thunder were working him along slowly but that's probably what he needed.

Coach Crazy
06-30-2017, 07:29 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19778834/paul-george-traded-indiana-pacers-oklahoma-city-thunder

Good catch lol


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stretch
06-30-2017, 07:41 PM
Is this a beneficial move for Sabonis? Seemed like the Thunder were working him along slowly but that's probably what he needed.

Yes, Sabonis was relegated to the 3 point line on offence in OKC as a clear out for Westbrook to do his magic. Sabonis should get more touches in Indiana, hopefully more iso postups and offensive boards, too.

bartruff1
06-30-2017, 07:47 PM
Free of Westbrook is always a good move...

CdAZagFan
06-30-2017, 08:10 PM
Free of Westbrook is always a good move...

Totally agree...

MDABE80
06-30-2017, 09:08 PM
Watching some talking heads on espn indicates they decided our boy wasn't going to be the mobile big who could rebound well enough now and the future. Domas will do better in Indy. George and Westbrook will score much but they don't have enough to go get the damned ball when they miss. Neither particularly accurate but they makes points on volume. Kinda rudderless down there for the staff to allow Westbrook to shoot so much. As a team, Thunder is needing lots more than George.

Jstock12
07-01-2017, 01:41 AM
I felt like Domas was put in the 'cage' when he was with the Thunder. They basically made him camp on the three-point line on the offensive end, and that's it. He didn't really show anything similar to what he was doing for Gonzaga. Him and Turner seems like a really nice, young front-court duo. Both can switch to cover the PnR.

willandi
07-01-2017, 06:55 AM
I felt like Domas was put in the 'cage' when he was with the Thunder. They basically made him camp on the three-point line on the offensive end, and that's it. He didn't really show anything similar to what he was doing for Gonzaga. Him and Turner seems like a really nice, young front-court duo. Both can switch to cover the PnR.

But I can understand why you would take a PF that shoots 60%+ and gets 7-10 boards a game, and make them a 3 pt specialist...NOT

Domas was not a fit for what the Dunder wanted, but now being a mobile PF that can step out for the 3 makes him more dangerous. It will be nice to be able to follow and also not despise the team.

webspinnre
07-01-2017, 08:27 AM
I think Indiana will run a much more traditional offense, allowing Domas to showcase his strengths, instead of sitting around outside and shooting 3s.

TexasZagFan
07-01-2017, 09:48 AM
If PG signs with the Lakers next year, as he stated, that could be a very expensive rental for OKC.

Zag365
07-01-2017, 09:49 AM
I didn't watch the Thunder much, but checked boxed scores. My perception was that Domas was treated very well at OKC in terms of development of an early draftee with potential. He started the majority of the time and wasn't over-used given that he'd just come off of two years of college ball and was not used to NBA grind. I've seen others say that he was relegated too much to 3-line and that that limited his ability to produce inside. Maybe so, but I think OKC put themselves in a bind when they lost Durant and had to play to Westbrook's game as much as possible both because of his star power and because he demanded the ball.

Now Domas will be playing for Nate McMillan, who likes team-first, old-school offense and defense. I think Domas has a great opportunity to win playing time, and keep improving. Indy fans will love his energy.

MDABE80
07-01-2017, 09:51 AM
Domas should have stayed. He'd have two NCAA crowns.:) lolol

bartruff1
07-01-2017, 12:35 PM
He made $2,550,000 last year, he will make more than that this year....you can buy a lot of trophies for 5 million....if he never plays another game of basketball he is set for life ...:D

I suspect a tiny % of those players with one or even 2 NCAA Championships can say that....

MDABE80
07-01-2017, 02:19 PM
Bart. He could done that anytime.
Now he'll founder and gonfrom team to team as trade bait.$$$$$$$$ isn't everything

seacatfan
07-01-2017, 02:29 PM
He's been traded once. That doesn't mean he's going to continue to get traded throughout his career. Anyway, many NBA players get traded at some point. There's nothing wrong with that. Would one or two more years at GU have made him a significantly different player in the NBA? Money isn't everything, but it's something.

bartruff1
07-01-2017, 02:54 PM
Bart. He could done that anytime.
Now he'll founder and gonfrom team to team as trade bait.$$$$$$$$ isn't everything

Nonsense...no one is promised tomorrow.....money isn't everything but it is a hell of a lot more useful than some ephemeral championship ... get over it....players need to seek their own self interest.....and financial security is a important part of that...they only have a dozen years or so to be able to play at that level...

IMHO he is a much better player having played 80 plus games against the best competition...

Ekrub
07-01-2017, 03:24 PM
Ivan rabb

seacatfan
07-01-2017, 03:26 PM
Exactly Ekrub. Sometimes you can lose a significant amount of money by returning to school, plus you're a year further away from the really lucrative second contract.

MDABE80
07-01-2017, 03:48 PM
You guys are too sensitive. Just saying Domas likely would have 2 crowns to savor for the rest of his life. It's a thought...........not a stupid one either. He took the money. So be it.

ZagDad84
07-01-2017, 04:01 PM
Never going to argue the decision of a kid when he is selected as a lottery pick. A lottery pick is, most likely, not going to significantly improve their draft position by staying another year. As Seacat noted above, leaving early also means the player is another year (or two or three) closer to the lucrative second contract.

That being said, all the money in the world can't buy a championship. A poster on these boards indicated that Kevin Durant gave up as much as 40 million (depends on the actual value of his next contract) to sign with the Warriors for a chance for a title. All of the 200+ million (contracts & sponsorship deals) he had earned prior to this year could not have bought that trophy and tournament MVP he won this year. While the championship was worth lots of $$$ to KD this year, it did not have the same value to him earlier in his career.

Money is a big deal to those who don't have much of it. After several years of 7 and 8-figure deals, shoe contracts, etc., to many players money becomes less of a priority and the chance to play for a championship or to play for your hometown team or live and raise your family in your choice of towns becomes a higher priority. But to have this luxury, you have to earn that first million or 50.

For myself, working 30-40 hours per week at $5.00/Hr to pay for my tuition and books at GU, gas money and some spending money (35+ years ago), I would have jumped at the chance for a 7-figure contract. These are young kids with a bright future. A serious injury could end the dream (Think Karno in Fall, 2015).

Nope, the kids got to be kids and the decision is all theirs.

ZagDad

seacatfan
07-01-2017, 04:37 PM
2 Championships? So you're suggesting he should've stuck around for his Sr. year as well? If you played the what-if game, untold dozens of players could possibly won a college Championship or two if they hung around college longer. And what if Sabonis played for GU in '16-'17? It certainly would've been a different team. No doubt JWIII, Collins and Tillie would've had different roles and probably wouldn't have developed the way they did. What if NWG and Sabonis didn't jive well on the court together? It's all moot and we'll never know, but it's hard to imagine the team being much better than they were. Adding another player, even a really talented one, could've changed the dynamic or chemistry of the team.

MDABE80
07-01-2017, 06:43 PM
Piling on much? This topic is over. Opinions expressed.

bartruff1
07-02-2017, 08:32 AM
Well gee Doc, would you be willing to give up your Marquis Card !!! :o

MDABE80
07-02-2017, 10:18 AM
I don't know what that is.

bartruff1
07-02-2017, 11:13 AM
Sabonis does..

MDABE80
07-02-2017, 11:25 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$

adoptedzag
07-02-2017, 12:48 PM
Had to look it up:

https://www.jetcards.org/pricing

http://www.forbestravelguide.com/partner/netjets/what-is-the-marquis-jet-card

TexasZagFan
07-02-2017, 01:41 PM
The money in the NBA is beyond ridiculous now. Domas will be there for a second contract, where he'll likely make over $10 million per year. Journeyman players are getting over $20 now. What made the deal work was that Oladipo is making $21 million a year, though he's been a disappointment in many NBA observers' eyes. He was there to keep the offense running when Westbrook was on the bench, and he couldn't do it.

Domas also hit the rookie "wall" in the second half of the season, as many do. It's a long season, and Indiana will benefit from DS's growing pains last year.

thebigsmoove
07-05-2017, 05:58 AM
Much has been made about Indiana not taking the Celtics offer of 3 first rounders and Jae Crowder for PG, but i think this trade will work out better for them. Oladipo played his college ball at IU and will fit right in with the Pacers, Hes not PG, but hes not a bad player by any stretch of the imagination. Then factor in the reality that Sabonis and Myles Turner will make up a very exciting young front court and i think the Pacers did fine. I really like the fit.

sittingon50
07-05-2017, 07:46 AM
Hope you're right, smoove. Domas' best asset (IMO) is his relentlessness around the rim. Don't get the impression he got to show that in Seattle Midwest.

Hope he finds a system in Indy that better suits "his talents."

CDC84
07-05-2017, 08:26 AM
Never going to argue the decision of a kid when he is selected as a lottery pick. A lottery pick is, most likely, not going to significantly improve their draft position by staying another year. As Seacat noted above, leaving early also means the player is another year (or two or three) closer to the lucrative second contract.

That being said, all the money in the world can't buy a championship. A poster on these boards indicated that Kevin Durant gave up as much as 40 million (depends on the actual value of his next contract) to sign with the Warriors for a chance for a title. All of the 200+ million (contracts & sponsorship deals) he had earned prior to this year could not have bought that trophy and tournament MVP he won this year. While the championship was worth lots of $$$ to KD this year, it did not have the same value to him earlier in his career.

Money is a big deal to those who don't have much of it. After several years of 7 and 8-figure deals, shoe contracts, etc., to many players money becomes less of a priority and the chance to play for a championship or to play for your hometown team or live and raise your family in your choice of towns becomes a higher priority. But to have this luxury, you have to earn that first million or 50.

For myself, working 30-40 hours per week at $5.00/Hr to pay for my tuition and books at GU, gas money and some spending money (35+ years ago), I would have jumped at the chance for a 7-figure contract. These are young kids with a bright future. A serious injury could end the dream (Think Karno in Fall, 2015).

Nope, the kids got to be kids and the decision is all theirs.

ZagDad

The salaries that are truly insane.........baseball. A pitcher can get paid $250 million for working every 5 days.

With the endorsement deals being as crazy as they are in the NBA, Durant isn't going to be the only guy making free agency choices based on a team's ability to win a title or at least make it deep into the playoffs. The money he makes off of salary is like chump change when you compare it to the shoe deal.

When it comes to Sabonis......what does Indiana's front court depth look like?? My main thing with Sabonis is I would like to see him get more consistent minutes and to be allowed to play through more of his mistakes. I really hope they have serious plans for developing him. I hope he wasn't a player thrown in just to sauce the deal.

SoonerZag
07-13-2017, 07:56 PM
It was really aggravating dealing with Thunder fans complaining about him. I'd chew them out at work or on twitter since they didn't follow him through college hoops. He took less three pointer shots against WCC opponents than in the NBA. He would land the occasional three pointer in college but it was more on Wiltjer. Why even draft him if he is going to be relegated hovering along the corners shooting threes? :mad: I couldn't believe what Billy D was doing with him. I never got the decision to fire Scott Brooks & hire Billy D to begin with. Was really frustrating for me since I followed his college career & been a Zags fan since the 90s when I was growing up.

Zagdawg
07-26-2017, 01:49 PM
https://twitter.com/LithuaniaBasket/status/890301339686895617

Jstock12
07-27-2017, 05:44 AM
https://twitter.com/LithuaniaBasket/status/890301339686895617

*Hits a half-court sky-hook*
*Walks off the court like nothing happened*