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BobZag
06-07-2017, 03:43 PM
GU distance runner Troy Fraley competes tonight in the NCAA track meet in the semi-finals in the steeplechase. Fraley, who holds the fastest collegiate steeplechase time in the country this year, is the favorite to win the event. He's the first GU male athlete to run in the NCAA championships. The race is at 5:02 this evening, live on ESPNU and ESPN3.

gonzagafan62
06-07-2017, 04:25 PM
Made the finals

ZaginLaw
06-07-2017, 07:34 PM
Sorry BZ, as a former T&F athlete, T&F is never OT...

Go Fraley!

MDABE80
06-07-2017, 08:41 PM
Long distance kid doing it on his own. THAT must be a lonely but disciplined athlete. Best of luck to him.

jazzdelmar
06-08-2017, 01:10 AM
Memories of Pre.

LongIslandZagFan
06-08-2017, 05:55 AM
Sorry BZ, as a former T&F athlete, T&F is never OT...

Go Fraley!

In fairness.... this IS a basketball portion of the forum. I think, and it seems BZ thinks, that it is important enough to be here on the basketball part of the forum.

former1dog
06-08-2017, 06:36 AM
Some of you know that I ran XC and Track for Gonzaga, so for me this is bigger than the Final 4!

I'm also a Montana native like Troy, so I'm doubly proud of him.

Overall this was inevitable. Legendary coach Pat Tyson, formerly the roommate of Steve Prefontaine at Oregon and the coach of roughly 10 state championship teams while at Mead High School, has steadily but surely built up my beloved program to a regional power in distance running. Despite having no track facility!

Watch out for sophomore to be Jake Perrin, also from Montana, to be the next Zag to get national notice. He set the freshman 5000 meter record at 14:04 earlier this spring. That's just stupid fast!!

Along with some other alums, I've been trying to help the program in a small way. My good friend and former teammate endowed a small but permanent scholarship for the program 2 years ago. Now he is going for a second endowment and is looking for help. If the spirit moves you and you have the means ($$$$), send me an email and I can explain how you can help - rob.boulds@gmail.com

former1dog
06-08-2017, 06:44 AM
Long distance kid doing it on his own. THAT must be a lonely but disciplined athlete. Best of luck to him.

Abe,

As in any individual sport, Troy gets a lot of credit for his talent and work ethic. Believe me though, he's got a fantastic coach and talented teammates helping him every step of the way. In fact at least 15 of his teammates paid thei own way to watch and support Troy in Eugene as he sets program history.

I must admit also that I get a kick out of the fact that in most interviews that Troy says he's running for all his GU brothers past and present!

23dpg
06-08-2017, 07:07 AM
Any info on the race today? Network and time?

former1dog
06-08-2017, 07:19 AM
Any info on the race today? Network and time?

The final is on Friday at 5:45 pacific time, televised on ESPN. Although Troy did have the top time in the nation earlier in the season, several athletes ran faster in the east regional NCAA qualifying meet. A Kenyan athlete running for Louisville is the favorite to win in the final.

Troy is going to have to have his best race ever to get on the podium, but he's in the race so he has a shot!

Rangerzag
06-08-2017, 07:26 AM
http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2017_DIOTF_Schedule_FINAL_20160202.pdf

BoZarth
06-08-2017, 07:59 AM
Gotta love the Montanans!

Where does our Track Team practice and is there anything in the works to build a track on our campus? Seems like a reasonable addition for many reasons.

Go Zags!!!! Go Troy!!!

former1dog
06-08-2017, 08:11 AM
Gotta love the Montanans!
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Where does our Track Team practice and is there anything in the works to build a track on our campus? Seems like a reasonable addition for many reasons.

Go Zags!!!! Go Troy!!!

Bozarth,

We used to utilize the Gonzaga Prep track years ago. I think they go to either SCC or SFCC nowadays, though.

I've been lucky enough to start a friendship with Coach Tyson over the past several years and based on the information I've gotten from him there are zero plans currently to build a track on campus.

If I were king for a day, though, I would put a track facility on campus as priority number 2. The first priority would be to fully fund scholarships for the athletes so that Coach Tyson's considerable talent for recruiting would have the backing of actual $$$ to help those athletes he targets to have an easy decision.

The limit for men's scholarships is 12.6 and for women 18. The team currently is operating on 4.05 for the men and 4.05 for women ( The extra .1 scholarship is thanks to my friend I mentioned above)

See above in how you might help with that effort.

A track would be great too!!

sittingon50
06-08-2017, 10:26 AM
I used to Coach HS Cross Country & my team's ran in some of Pat's Invites. Really a nice man.

I'm with you, former; a 1st class Coach playing against an uneven field (Portland has lot's of schollies, I assume BYU does as well). Spokane has been a virtual hotbed of distance talent for decades but GU can't keep them home.

OregonZag5
06-08-2017, 11:57 AM
We were in the stands waiving our "Go Zags" signs- made the Duck wife waive one. So everyone around us got into it and was cheering for him. Had been in the other heat he would have come in first. We will be cheering him on at the finals.

jazzdelmar
06-08-2017, 02:33 PM
Bozarth,

We used to utilize the Gonzaga Prep track years ago. I think they go to either SCC or SFCC nowadays, though.

I've been lucky enough to start a friendship with Coach Tyson over the past several years and based on the information I've gotten from him there are zero plans currently to build a track on campus.

If I were king for a day, though, I would put a track facility on campus as priority number 2. The first priority would be to fully fund scholarships for the athletes so that Coach Tyson's considerable talent for recruiting would have the backing of actual $$$ to help those athletes he targets to have an easy decision.

The limit for men's scholarships is 12.6 and for women 18. The team currently is operating on 4.05 for the men and 4.05 for women ( The extra .1 scholarship is thanks to my friend I mentioned above)

See above in how you might help with that effort.

A track would be great too!!

Dog, are those schollies for all 3 seasons -- XC, indoor and outdoor -- and field as well? Why the M-F discrepancy? I went to Manhattan when it was along w Villanova the powers in the east.

ZagsObserver
06-08-2017, 02:38 PM
Dog, are those schollies for all 3 seasons -- XC, indoor and outdoor -- and field as well? Why the M-F discrepancy? I went to Manhattan when it was along w Villanova the powers in the east.

Yes, for all 3. Back when I was there, it was the same runners on the xc team as the track team. I think there may have been 1 scholarship, or maybe just a half scholarship for the entire team, when I was there.

former1dog
06-08-2017, 02:56 PM
Dog, are those schollies for all 3 seasons -- XC, indoor and outdoor -- and field as well? Why the M-F discrepancy? I went to Manhattan when it was along w Villanova the powers in the east.

Yes, all 3 seasons are covered by the same scholarship pool. The teams are almost exclusively distance runners now. When I competed we had a really good triple jumper, a high jumper and some sprinters. Most of us, though, were 3 season distance runners.

The scholarship pool was limited to room waivers when I was on the team. I walked onto the team and I already had an ROTC scholarship. By sophomore year running XC and track, I had done well enough(top 5 XC as a frosh) that I was offered a room waiver but it was duplicative of ROTC funds I was already getting.

I think Title IX is responsible for the discrepancy in the maximum number of scholarships allowed, but don't quote me on that.

The men's and women's teams at Gonzaga have the same number of schollies.

former1dog
06-08-2017, 03:01 PM
Yes, for all 3. Back when I was there, it was the same runners on the xc team as the track team. I think there may have been 1 scholarship, or maybe just a half scholarship for the entire team, when I was there.

Did we run together? I'm Rob Boulds and I was there from 1988 to 1992.

Norwester
06-08-2017, 03:09 PM
Dog, are those schollies for all 3 seasons -- XC, indoor and outdoor -- and field as well? Why the M-F discrepancy? I went to Manhattan when it was along w Villanova the powers in the east.

It's for Title IX purposes. It's for the same reason as WBB has 15 scholarships and MBB has 13.

jazzdelmar
06-08-2017, 03:23 PM
It's for Title IX purposes. It's for the same reason as WBB has 15 scholarships and MBB has 13.

I thought such M-F discrepancies in hoops and Olympic sports schollies were only at big time FB schools with no female comparison sport.

Bogozags
06-08-2017, 05:45 PM
Watch out for sophomore to be Jake Perrin, also from Montana, to be the next Zag to get national notice. He set the freshman 5000 meter record at 14:04 earlier this spring. That's just stupid fast!!



That is fast! I could run 4:40's but to run three of them back to back is PDQ...

I wonder what kind of speed he has...it would be interesting if he can run a sub 50 quarter...

The kid seems to maybe have a super future if his mind and body are willing...Pre ran a 13:52 his senior year in HS

former1dog
06-08-2017, 05:53 PM
That is fast! I could run 4:40's but to run three of them back to back is PDQ...

I wonder what kind of speed he has...it would be interesting if he can run a sub 50 quarter...

The kid seems to maybe have a super future if his mind and body are willing...Pre ran a 13:52 his senior year in HS

Perrin has good genetics (his brother is an All American runner for Colorado) and he is relatively new to the sport, not taking up running until 10th grade. He made up for lost time though and is the state championship record holder (all time best) in both the 1600 (4:12) and 3200 (9:02) for Montana. He ran those times at altitude by the way.

Anyway, he's the best recruit ever for GU and he didn't disappoint anyone as a frosh!

Fraley will be back this fall for XC, so I'm so excited to see those two push each other to new levels!

asoc
06-08-2017, 06:55 PM
Thats good to hear. I grew up in the Mead School District, played soccer, and had friends who were distance runners at Mead and Mt. Spokane. Great to see Tyson doing good things at GU. Would be great for Spokane to keep more of these kids at home once they graduate high school.

sittingon50
06-08-2017, 07:49 PM
Slightly OT, but a USF Woman (from England) won the 10,000 tonight, the 1st ever Track & Field Champion from USF (if Dwight Stones is to be believed).

kitzbuel
06-09-2017, 03:35 AM
Yes, all 3 seasons are covered by the same scholarship pool. The teams are almost exclusively distance runners now. When I competed we had a really good triple jumper, a high jumper and some sprinters. Most of us, though, were 3 season distance runners.

The scholarship pool was limited to room waivers when I was on the team. I walked onto the team and I already had an ROTC scholarship. By sophomore year running XC and track, I had done well enough(top 5 XC as a frosh) that I was offered a room waiver but it was duplicative of ROTC funds I was already getting.

I think Title IX is responsible for the discrepancy in the maximum number of scholarships allowed, but don't quote me on that.

The men's and women's teams at Gonzaga have the same number of schollies.
GU will likely never be a track school since we have no football program. Top track schools leverage the speed and strength of their football players for the sprint and field events. They also have the training facilities needed for the specialized strength training and various types of conditioning.

No reason GU can't be a solid distance school, though. Lots of roads and a strong community tradition surrounding​ Bloomsday.

I personally hated track. I did one 10,000 meter race, lost track of laps quickly, became numb after all those laps and just went back to road races in the spring.

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ZaginLaw
06-09-2017, 06:05 AM
In was in good humor. We never think we are off topic in any form...😜

former1dog
06-09-2017, 05:19 PM
So proud of Troy Fraley! On the biggest stage he runs his best with a personal best time beating his previous best by 4 seconds. That was good for 7th place and history as Gonzaga's first ever All American for men's track!

Congratulations Troy!!!

sittingon50
06-09-2017, 07:28 PM
:clap:

Reborn
06-10-2017, 07:59 AM
So proud of Troy Fraley! On the biggest stage he runs his best with a personal best time beating his previous best by 4 seconds. That was good for 7th place and history as Gonzaga's first ever All American for men's track!

Congratulations Troy!!!

Congratulations Troy! Great job. Way to bring it.