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MDABE80
04-25-2017, 10:47 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2705750-joel-berry-ii-withdraws-name-from-2017-nba-draft-will-return-to-unc

Both Joel and Nigel are 22 yrs old.:)

ZagaZags
04-25-2017, 10:56 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2705750-joel-berry-ii-withdraws-name-from-2017-nba-draft-will-return-to-unc

Both Joel and Nigel are 22 yrs old.:)

And???

CarolinaZagFan
04-26-2017, 04:33 AM
UNC-CHeat players don't want to take the pay cut. Ridiculous that Justin Jackson was in college this year. In fact, Zach Collins gives us half the amount of one and dones UNC-CHeat has ever had. Unreal that a blue blood of their caliber has only had 2 one and dones ever and none since Brandan Wright in 2007. I'm no Sherlock Holmes but something don't add up there.

seacatfan
04-26-2017, 09:39 AM
UNC-CHeat players don't want to take the pay cut. Ridiculous that Justin Jackson was in college this year. In fact, Zach Collins gives us half the amount of one and dones UNC-CHeat has ever had. Unreal that a blue blood of their caliber has only had 2 one and dones ever and none since Brandan Wright in 2007. I'm no Sherlock Holmes but something don't add up there.

Or maybe most of the blue chip players UNC has brought in weren't deemed worthy of being one and doners. Harrison Barnes returning for his soph season was kind of a surprise. Other than him, tell me who came back that you think should've only stayed 1 year?

CarolinaZagFan
04-26-2017, 10:48 AM
Or maybe most of the blue chip players UNC has brought in weren't deemed worthy of being one and doners. Harrison Barnes returning for his soph season was kind of a surprise. Other than him, tell me who came back that you think should've only stayed 1 year?

Ty Lawson, Ed Davis, PJ Hairston, John Henson, Raymond Felton, Rashad McCants, Joe Forte, Antawn Jamison, Rasheed Wallace, Vince Carter etc. Many of those were before the one and done rule existed and should've never stepped foot on a college campus in the first place much less stayed more than one year.

seacatfan
04-26-2017, 11:28 AM
Ty Lawson, Ed Davis, PJ Hairston, John Henson, Raymond Felton, Rashad McCants, Joe Forte, Antawn Jamison, Rasheed Wallace, Vince Carter etc. Many of those were before the one and done rule existed and should've never stepped foot on a college campus in the first place much less stayed more than one year.

Well a few of those guys preceded the era of high schoolers going straight to the pros, and then a few more of them were when staying for 3 years and then declaring was considered going pro early. Of the later ones, some of them weren't even close to being ready to jump after their Fr. year. Henson was a huge project that eventually developed, but he was nothing as a Fr. Davis was pretty raw his first year. Lawson struggled as a Fr. somewhat, was good as a soph and awesome as a Jr. I don't think anybody would've taken Felton seriously as a prospect if he tried to leave after 1 year.

Surprised you don't have Jerry Stackhouse listed, but again that was a time when Fr. declaring for the draft was pretty much unheard of.

Here's a fascinating list I found of early entrants by year. '95 (Garnet) and '96 (Kobe) is when the straight out of HS era began. There are a lot of "who the hell is that?!" names on the list, and subsequently a whole bunch of guys that didn't get drafted.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj66snr6sLTAhUGr1QKHQ7VDmcQFggiMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nba.com%2Fnews%2Flottery02_ea rlyentry_history.html&usg=AFQjCNEFEcZAEjdUXs7D-0TIArvg-YnWZA