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zagsfanforlife
02-01-2017, 10:15 AM
Las Vegas now has the Zags as the 2nd lowest odds to win the whole dang thing--- 15 to 2 Odds. Only team ahead of them is Kentucky at 11/2. Hopefully some of you Zag Homers were like me and took advantage of them when they were 75-1. My $600 on them will be double the fun if it happens.

Go ZAGS!

B Wayne
02-01-2017, 10:20 AM
Yep I bet 20 on them over the summer..that's $1500. /But $600 would be 45K?

zagsfanforlife
02-01-2017, 10:25 AM
Yep I bet 20 on them over the summer..that's $1500. /But $600 would be 45K?

Just a young broke college kid, with big Zags dreams. One of these years my huge odds at the end of the season will pay off.

scrooner
02-01-2017, 10:33 AM
What's the source for that? This site has them at 10/1. http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/futures/

Kentucky 11/2
Kansas 13/2
Duke(!) 17/2
UCLA 17/2
Villanova 17/2
Arizona 10/1
Gonzaga 10/1
UNC 11/1

zagsfanforlife
02-01-2017, 10:38 AM
What's the source for that? This site has them at 10/1. http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/futures/

Kentucky 11/2
Kansas 13/2
Duke(!) 17/2
UCLA 17/2
Villanova 17/2
Arizona 10/1
Gonzaga 10/1
UNC 11/1

Bovada

ZagMan in Philly
02-01-2017, 10:50 AM
Las Vegas now has the Zags as the 2nd lowest odds to win the whole dang thing--- 15 to 2 Odds. Only team ahead of them is Kentucky at 11/2. Hopefully some of you Zag Homers were like me and took advantage of them when they were 75-1. My $600 on them will be double the fun if it happens.

Go ZAGS!

Best scenario for you is Zags get to the final game and as a big favorite, let say 10 points, so you could hedge a small wager against the Zags and potentially win both bets. Good luck..and Go Zags!!

B Wayne
02-01-2017, 11:43 AM
Best scenario for you is Zags get to the final game and as a big favorite, let say 10 points, so you could hedge a small wager against the Zags and potentially win both bets. Good luck..and Go Zags!!

Thanks Philly man! Great idea!

Rangerzag
02-01-2017, 12:21 PM
Bovada

https://sports.bovada.lv/basketball/college-basketball/futures-market-group

jake
02-01-2017, 12:43 PM
At some point I'd stick with my bet, but at any significant money I'd hedge with a spread or moneyline bet on the opposition.

I have a very small online account that I've agreed to not add more $ to, so it doesn't make sense to put anything but an entertainment bet of a couple dollars on a futures bet of winning the title, but I did get +6600 at the beginning of the year. My wife went to Marquette, so I have the same bet on them +25000. They did beat a #1 ranked team, so I'm not giving up hope on either bet yet. Good luck to those with real bets on the Zags.

kitzbuel
02-01-2017, 01:39 PM
Bovada
Bovada isn't in Vegas. It's an offshore site.

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zagsfanforlife
02-01-2017, 02:04 PM
Bovada isn't in Vegas. It's an offshore site.

Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk

Yes i know. I get my checks from them. Also a site ESPN references for their odds.. mods feel free to change title to "Offshore Gambling Site Likes Zags"...

ezcure17
02-01-2017, 07:26 PM
Hey all. I live in vegas and today at the southpoint casino the Zags are now down to 3-1 to win it all, as is Kansas so we are now favorites to win it all. They were 100-1 right after the tournament but i got them at 80-1. Wow, who would have ever thought we would be listed as favorites to win the whole thing! Awesome!! Go zags!

zagsfanforlife
02-01-2017, 07:50 PM
Hey all. I live in vegas and today at the southpoint casino the Zags are now down to 3-1 to win it all, as is Kansas so we are now favorites to win it all. They were 100-1 right after the tournament but i got them at 80-1. Wow, who would have ever thought we would be listed as favorites to win the whole thing! Awesome!! Go zags!

3-1? Thats ridiculous. Love the zags but i wouldnt take that. 64 teams in the tournament.. 3-1? Geez.

jake
02-01-2017, 09:16 PM
3-1? Thats ridiculous. Love the zags but i wouldnt take that. 64 teams in the tournament.. 3-1? Geez.

Agreed. Nice to be near the top, but horrible odds. Then again, when you can't bet the other side, they can offer whatever odds they want on futures bets.

DixieZag
02-01-2017, 10:05 PM
Just ...Damn. Hey, guys, I just drifted off for a sec and had this crazy dream where someone was saying the Zags were favored to win the tournament....crazy sh!t. What're y'all talking about?

zagsfanforlife
03-28-2017, 06:16 PM
Are you folks who had the Zags to win it all hedging yet???

RenoZag
03-28-2017, 06:21 PM
Just a young broke college kid, with big Zags dreams. One of these years my huge odds at the end of the season will pay off.

Don't forget your Social Security card when you go to the betting window to cash that ticket, young Jedi. Good Luck !!

ZagMan in Philly
03-28-2017, 06:50 PM
Are you folks who had the Zags to win it all hedging yet???

Not hedging, will be in Vegas this Thursday to put more on the Zags to whoop S.Carolina

OntZags
03-28-2017, 06:52 PM
Not a bloody chance. :)

Got a nice chunk in at 50-1 and I'll ride it out 'till the end, win or lose. I ain't tempting them karma gods. (although to be honest I DID bet on Oregon as well to start the season so I feel pretty good about things and inadvertently got my hedge in October lol. Nice feeling to have your two pre-season bets both in the final four. :))

USCJeremyinCali
03-28-2017, 11:13 PM
I had the Zags in the championship game in my bracket. If the Zags win, I win my office pool. The irony is I have to cheer for my school to lose to win my pool.

If you're betting on the game Saturday, just remember that Duke, Baylor, and Florida were all favored to beat South Carolina too! :cheers:

MontanaCoyote
03-29-2017, 08:31 AM
I had the Zags in the championship game in my bracket. If the Zags win, I win my office pool. The irony is I have to cheer for my school to lose to win my pool.

If you're betting on the game Saturday, just remember that Duke, Baylor, and Florida were all favored to beat South Carolina too! :cheers:

Coach Few, Please remind our boys that Duke, Baylor AND Florida were ALL favored to beat USC. The fact that we're favored to beat 'um doesn't mean diddily!

SwainZag
03-29-2017, 12:34 PM
Coach Few, Please remind our boys that Duke, Baylor AND Florida were ALL favored to beat USC. The fact that we're favored to beat 'um doesn't mean diddily!

He shouldn't have to remind them of anything, this team has been favored for every game this season, nothing new on Saturday.

Zags11
03-29-2017, 12:42 PM
I had the Zags in the championship game in my bracket. If the Zags win, I win my office pool. The irony is I have to cheer for my school to lose to win my pool.

If you're betting on the game Saturday, just remember that Duke, Baylor, and Florida were all favored to beat South Carolina too! :cheers:

Yep. And someone has to lose. And zags are also better then all those teams as well. Your team is playing great. Good luck. Well good luck in the sense that your team is eliminated but nobody is hurt.

jake
03-29-2017, 01:27 PM
Are you folks who had the Zags to win it all hedging yet???

From your previous posts, you described yourself as a young, broke college kid, who has $600 on the Zags at 75:1. Ignoring the over-sized initial bet, I would absolutely hedge your bet if Gonzaga beats South Carolina. I doubt many others that are saying they aren't hedging have $45k riding on their bet or are a broke college kid. I understand if people want to "let it ride" and are worried about mojo, but if you're young with little savings (recognizing it might be hard to find the $ to hedge), locking in something like a minimum profit of $10k to $20k could be financial condition changing event for someone just getting out of college. If your passions are that strong, let it ride, but also ask yourself when else are you going to have the chance to make that kind of money in a day?

zagsfanforlife
03-29-2017, 03:10 PM
From your previous posts, you described yourself as a young, broke college kid, who has $600 on the Zags at 75:1. Ignoring the over-sized initial bet, I would absolutely hedge your bet if Gonzaga beats South Carolina. I doubt many others that are saying they aren't hedging have $45k riding on their bet or are a broke college kid. I understand if people want to "let it ride" and are worried about mojo, but if you're young with little savings (recognizing it might be hard to find the $ to hedge), locking in something like a minimum profit of $10k to $20k could be financial condition changing event for someone just getting out of college. If your passions are that strong, let it ride, but also ask yourself when else are you going to have the chance to make that kind of money in a day?

Thanks Jake. Was definitely planning on hedging the finals (sorry guys), but moreso wondering about Saturdays game. I fully expect the Zags to win, but like you said, even 5k would be amazing in one day. Thanks again.

Zags11
03-29-2017, 03:23 PM
From your previous posts, you described yourself as a young, broke college kid, who has $600 on the Zags at 75:1. Ignoring the over-sized initial bet, I would absolutely hedge your bet if Gonzaga beats South Carolina. I doubt many others that are saying they aren't hedging have $45k riding on their bet or are a broke college kid. I understand if people want to "let it ride" and are worried about mojo, but if you're young with little savings (recognizing it might be hard to find the $ to hedge), locking in something like a minimum profit of $10k to $20k could be financial condition changing event for someone just getting out of college. If your passions are that strong, let it ride, but also ask yourself when else are you going to have the chance to make that kind of money in a day?

How do u hedge? U call them and change bet? I didn't bet but j.w. thx!

jake
03-29-2017, 04:08 PM
How do u hedge? U call them and change bet? I didn't bet but j.w. thx!
If you're only looking at the championship game, you would make a standalone bet on Gonaga's opponent. These are made up numbers, but if Gonzaga was playing North Carolina in the finals, say North Carolina was a small favorite and the odds of a bet on North Carolina to simply win the game were -120 (bet $120 to win $100). You could bet some amount, say $12,000, on North Carolina to win the game. Your outcomes in that scenario are 1) Gonzaga wins the game and you win $45k on your futures bet, but lose $12k on your North Carolina bet. Your net profit is $33k. 2) North Carolina wins the game and you win $10k on your bet on North Carolina, but lose $600 on your futures bet on Gonzaga to win the title. Your net profit is $9,400. Both are pretty good options for a $600 initial bet.

jake
03-29-2017, 05:53 PM
moreso wondering about Saturdays game. I fully expect the Zags to win, but like you said, even 5k would be amazing in one day. Thanks again.

Part of your decision is based on how much money you can round up to bet and what you're comfortable with. Given the exposure I would absolutely hedge on Saturday, but if you hedge Saturday and Gonzaga wins you have to hedge and you would want to make sure you had both hedges lined up bankroll wise prior to Saturday.

Say your bet is worth something like $14k today. If Gonzaga is a slight dog to North Carolina in the finals it's worth say $20k if Gonzaga plays Carolina and a bit more if they play Oregon.


This is all just my opinion, but I don't think you want to get complicated and take the points with South Carolina on Saturday. You might middle that and win both bets, but it significantly increases the cash you need to hedge starting in the semi finals. In my opinion you should be trying to lock in profit at this point not increase profit by hitting the middle on the semi-final game. Taking South Carolina on the moneyline cuts down quite a bit on the cash necessary if you have to hedge both games.

I would see what you can get for odds on the money line on the South Carolina game, and then assume maybe -120 or something like that on the moneyline in the final (Knowing that it would be better than that if Gonzaga wins and plays Oregon in the final) From there you can calculate how much cash you actually have access to and combine that with what you want to lock in as profit to determine how much you hedge.

You mentioned that even $5k would be amazing to win. If you assume you'll be betting -120 on North Carolina in the finals, you could lock in a $5k profit with about $11,850. Saturday bet $2,333 on South Carolina to win (assuming +240). If that loses and you have to bet -120 on North Carolina in the final you would then bet $9,520 on North Carolina -120 in the finals. In that case you guarantee $5,000 in profit, but still make a profit just over $33k if Gonzaga wins the title.

MDABE80
03-29-2017, 08:57 PM
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seacatfan
03-29-2017, 10:56 PM
Sorry guys, a dozen adorable puppies just predicted Oregon is gonna win it all on Jimmy Fallon's late night show. He almost pronounced Gonzaga correctly.

Akzag
03-30-2017, 12:39 AM
Sorry guys, a dozen adorable puppies just predicted Oregon is gonna win it all on Jimmy Fallon's late night show. He almost pronounced Gonzaga correctly.

But were the puppies, Bulldogs ... ?

Zags11
03-30-2017, 01:10 AM
If you're only looking at the championship game, you would make a standalone bet on Gonaga's opponent. These are made up numbers, but if Gonzaga was playing North Carolina in the finals, say North Carolina was a small favorite and the odds of a bet on North Carolina to simply win the game were -120 (bet $120 to win $100). You could bet some amount, say $12,000, on North Carolina to win the game. Your outcomes in that scenario are 1) Gonzaga wins the game and you win $45k on your futures bet, but lose $12k on your North Carolina bet. Your net profit is $33k. 2) North Carolina wins the game and you win $10k on your bet on North Carolina, but lose $600 on your futures bet on Gonzaga to win the title. Your net profit is $9,400. Both are pretty good options for a $600 initial bet.

Wow that's nice! Thanks for the explanation!

DixieZag
03-30-2017, 02:34 AM
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So, we're right back to our reputation of underperforming if we don't win it all?

We just can't win ....without winning the National Championship. :)

seacatfan
03-30-2017, 09:19 AM
But were the puppies, Bulldogs ... ?

golden retrievers