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Zagceo
03-23-2017, 10:23 PM
The first observation.........Xaviers crowd was loud and impressive competed with AZ fan volume.

Zagceo
03-23-2017, 10:37 PM
It was a maul ball......51 fouls...our guys fought and kept their composure

Zagceo
03-23-2017, 11:31 PM
Ronny is in town and doing exactly what you'd expect....whatever it takes. Currently helping coaches.
Asked him after the game if I'd see him in Glendale...his answer...."What do you think"?

Zagceo
03-24-2017, 07:59 AM
Worst venue for info/stats ....

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag58/Corey_Olson/IMG_1969_zpschuuh9gv.png

Zagceo
03-24-2017, 08:00 AM
Przemek loosening up the rims in pre-game

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag58/Corey_Olson/IMG_1910_zpsbsunzpab.jpg

Zagceo
03-24-2017, 08:07 AM
http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag58/Corey_Olson/IMG_1921_zpsskg0e1xn.jpg

Zagceo
03-24-2017, 08:13 AM
http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag58/Corey_Olson/IMG_1970_zpstdw2e6dk.png

ZagMan in Philly
03-24-2017, 08:35 AM
http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag58/Corey_Olson/IMG_1970_zpstdw2e6dk.png

Looked like Bill was dressed ready for an early fishing trip, we can accommodate that tomorrow.

Zagger
03-24-2017, 08:47 AM
The Spokesman-Review has some great shots:
http://www.spokesman.com/galleries/2017/mar/23/ncaa-tournament-gonzaga-vs-west-virginia-march-23/

http://media.spokesman.com/photos/2017/03/23/SRX_GU_WVU_23_DOfKs5C_t1140.jpg?abf36d44fcda22a1f7 041162086f31df6a374511

sittingon50
03-24-2017, 10:16 AM
Nice shots ceo. Thanks.

johno
03-24-2017, 11:00 AM
Anyone have an analysis of the out of bounds play on the ball that wasn't out of bounds. What's the applicable rule and was the rule followed?

TexasZagFan
03-24-2017, 11:07 AM
Anyone have an analysis of the out of bounds play on the ball that wasn't out of bounds. What's the applicable rule and was the rule followed?

It was ruled an inadvertent whistle, after pondering the issue for 6 minutes and 47 seconds.

Hoopaholic
03-24-2017, 11:37 AM
Anyone have an analysis of the out of bounds play on the ball that wasn't out of bounds. What's the applicable rule and was the rule followed?

It was clear after one rerun to see ball never went out of bounds and Adrian from WVU did not step out of bounds while saving it and it was saved to WVU

BUT the ref saw what he thought was ball out of bounds or player out of bounds blew whistle and gave clear signal zag ball


Out of bounds calls are reviewable

They made wrong call in flow of game but made right call overruling their error

Now why it took 5 plus minutes I don't know as it was clear

And find it symptomatic of referees that instead of saying admitting error they come up with BS explanation of inadvertent whistle

You blew the call. Admit it it won't change Santa Claus view on you at xmas time

Zagceo
03-24-2017, 11:42 AM
It was clear after one rerun to see ball never went out of bounds and Adrian from WVU did not step out of bounds while saving it and it was saved to WVU

BUT the ref saw what he thought was ball out of bounds or player out of bounds blew whistle and gave clear signal zag ball


Out of bounds calls are reviewable

They made wrong call in flow of game but made right call overruling their error

Now why it took 5 plus minutes I don't know as it was clear

And find it symptomatic of referees that instead of saying admitting error they come up with BS explanation of inadvertent whistle

You blew the call. Admit it it won't change Santa Claus view on you at xmas time

thanks hoop ..had no idea what happen in arena

sittingon50
03-24-2017, 11:43 AM
Call came @ 1:59, correct? Did they wind up putting time back on the clock?

kitzbuel
03-24-2017, 11:46 AM
Przemek loosening up the rims in pre-game

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag58/Corey_Olson/IMG_1910_zpsbsunzpab.jpg

That's the rim that Mathews rattled his game winning three through. Good job, Shem!

sittingon50
03-24-2017, 11:46 AM
thanks hoop ..had no idea what happen in arena

Good point ceo.

My daughter has called me several times from Mariner's games over the years when the umpires get "under the hood" & asks "Do you know what they're looking at" because nothing is said in the ballpark.

zagbeliever
03-24-2017, 11:55 AM
Ronny is in town and doing exactly what you'd expect....whatever it takes. Currently helping coaches.
Asked him after the game if I'd see him in Glendale...his answer...."What do you think"?

I love Ronny

zagbeliever
03-24-2017, 12:00 PM
The Spokesman-Review has some great shots:
http://www.spokesman.com/galleries/2017/mar/23/ncaa-tournament-gonzaga-vs-west-virginia-march-23/

http://media.spokesman.com/photos/2017/03/23/SRX_GU_WVU_23_DOfKs5C_t1140.jpg?abf36d44fcda22a1f7 041162086f31df6a374511t

his is my all time favorite Jordan picture

BayAreaZagFan
03-24-2017, 12:07 PM
Is there something special I need to do to be able to post pictures? When I click on "Upload photos", I get a popup window that says I have uploaded the maximum of 5 files, but I don't think I've ever uploaded any? Or am I just being dense about this?

Shanachie
03-24-2017, 12:32 PM
It was clear after one rerun to see ball never went out of bounds and Adrian from WVU did not step out of bounds while saving it and it was saved to WVU

BUT the ref saw what he thought was ball out of bounds or player out of bounds blew whistle and gave clear signal zag ball


Out of bounds calls are reviewable

They made wrong call in flow of game but made right call overruling their error

Now why it took 5 plus minutes I don't know as it was clear

And find it symptomatic of referees that instead of saying admitting error they come up with BS explanation of inadvertent whistle

You blew the call. Admit it it won't change Santa Claus view on you at xmas time

No, I don't think that's right. Whether the player was out of bounds is not reviewable. Remember the Syracuse game last year? The only thing that is reviewable is which player last touched the ball. Once the call was made that the play was out of bounds, by rule it cannot be undone. They could review whether Silas touched the ball (which he hadn't), but they can't review whether the player was out of bounds. There was nothing inadvertent about the whistle; the ref though he was out, and he called him out. Watch the replay; he clearly called the player out and pointed the other direction. The "inadvertent whistle" logic was made up on the spot to give them a path to the "right" outcome.

Zagceo
03-24-2017, 12:33 PM
Players just left for practice

johno
03-24-2017, 12:57 PM
It was clear after one rerun to see ball never went out of bounds and Adrian from WVU did not step out of bounds while saving it and it was saved to WVU

BUT the ref saw what he thought was ball out of bounds or player out of bounds blew whistle and gave clear signal zag ball


Out of bounds calls are reviewable


They made wrong call in flow of game but made right call overruling their error

Now why it took 5 plus minutes I don't know as it was clear

And find it symptomatic of referees that instead of saying admitting error they come up with BS explanation of inadvertent whistle

You blew the call. Admit it it won't change Santa Claus view on you at xmas time

So what does the Bilas tweet mean; "Gonzaga bailed out officials on lame "inadvertent whistle" call. If inadvertent, official knows right away. Replay is not allowed. Period." I take it to mean that because the ball never did go out of bounds the play wasn't reviewable, but that's just speculation. Yes, I know, time to move on...

Hoopaholic
03-24-2017, 01:12 PM
So what does the Bilas tweet mean; "Gonzaga bailed out officials on lame "inadvertent whistle" call. If inadvertent, official knows right away. Replay is not allowed. Period." I take it to mean that because the ball never did go out of bounds the play wasn't reviewable, but that's just speculation. Yes, I know, time to move on...

Bilas is wrong according to the NCAA rules committee

Out of bounds plays are reviewable for possession determinations

I think his tweet is what I am saying.....ref blew call step up and admit it overrule it move on....instead they try to claim inadvertent whistle......

Zags11
03-24-2017, 01:37 PM
Bilas is wrong according to the NCAA rules committee

Out of bounds plays are reviewable for possession determinations

I think his tweet is what I am saying.....ref blew call step up and admit it overrule it move on....instead they try to claim inadvertent whistle......

Believe you can review under 2minutes only.

Hoopaholic
03-24-2017, 01:43 PM
Believe you can review under 2minutes only.

Thus why came up with excuse of inadvertent whistle?

These three should not be allowed to do further tournament games

JPtheBeasta
03-24-2017, 01:51 PM
It was ruled an inadvertent whistle, after pondering the issue for 6 minutes and 47 seconds.

It seemed like a post hoc call. We checked the monitors to see who it was off of, but it wasn't off anybody, therefore we didn't actually mean to blow the whistle. An inadvertent whistle is usually an accidental stoppage play quickly followed by a switching of the possession arrow, then an inbounds. There shouldn't need to be a review of the monitor to see if a ref accidentally blew his whistle...because he would know that he accidentally blew his whistle.

JPtheBeasta
03-24-2017, 01:52 PM
So what does the Bilas tweet mean; "Gonzaga bailed out officials on lame "inadvertent whistle" call. If inadvertent, official knows right away. Replay is not allowed. Period." I take it to mean that because the ball never did go out of bounds the play wasn't reviewable, but that's just speculation. Yes, I know, time to move on...

Sorry. Just saw this. I agree with Billas.