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caduceus
03-22-2017, 10:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Ip3cr06.png


Efficiency Stats:

http://i.imgur.com/kT6HIHp.png

source: teamrankings.com (https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/matchup/mountaineers-bulldogs-2017-03-24)

MDABE80
03-22-2017, 11:25 PM
Good post Cad! At the end of the season you've found a comparison! lol...In the data though, ESPN says WVU has 75.5 ppg scored against it. Yours says 67 ppg against. Why would there be such a big difference? Any ideas?


82.1--------> 75.5<------- 45.9 37.3 16.7 4.7 10.2 W2
83.9 59.5 51.2 40.6 15.6 4.6 7.1 W5

caduceus
03-22-2017, 11:52 PM
Well, I added up WVU's numbers myself.

Regular season and B12 Tourney: 2218 points against / 34 games = 65.23 ppg against.

Add in NCAA Tournament: 2369 points against / 36 games = 65.81 ppg against.

So, both are wrong, but TeamRankings is off by just 1% (unless I made a mistake in my quick calculation).

As for ESPN, that's apparently a postseason stat. Bucknell scored 80 on them. Notre Dame got 71. Add those up, divided by two, and you get.....75.5.


Edit: So I checked sports-reference.com, which is (to me) the gold-standard. Their numbers match TeamRankings' exactly. So, screw ESPN as well as my own calculations.

MDABE80
03-23-2017, 12:22 AM
OK thanks!

caduceus
03-23-2017, 12:40 AM
Actual WVU total points against was 2406, so oppPts (divided by 36) = 66.833.

Looks like I missed a game or something.

Anyway, numbers-wise, the Zags look very good against WVU. It's mostly a matter of playing our game true to what the stats indicate. If they do, it's E8. If Bucknell (RPI #63) can drop 80 on them in a loss, geez, we ought to do better.

SWZag
03-23-2017, 06:39 AM
WVU Offensive rebound percentage: 36.9%

This brings with it some concern.

willandi
03-23-2017, 07:11 AM
WVU Offensive rebound percentage: 36.9%

This brings with it some concern.

Yeah! They miss a lot of shots!

DukeSilver
03-23-2017, 07:35 AM
WVU Offensive rebound percentage: 36.9%

This brings with it some concern.

Teams got a lot of offensive rebounds against us at the beginning of the season, but it really hasn't been much of a problem as of late. Not something that I would be overly concerned about, at this point.

sittingon50
03-23-2017, 09:02 AM
Teams got a lot of offensive rebounds against us at the beginning of the season, but it really hasn't been much of a problem as of late. Not something that I would be overly concerned about, at this point.

Agreed.

caduceus
03-23-2017, 02:09 PM
WVU having to face the #1 defensively efficient team in the nation is going to (hopefully greatly) diminish the effect and chances they get to use the press. Not to mention ALSO having to face the #1 team in the nation in defensive rebounding.

After watching the WVU/Notre Dame game again, I feel better about our chances. Notre Dame played against their press HORRIBLY, with tons of long balls and almost never having a player under WVU's basket in transition. ND settled for a TON of early 3's instead. The Zags will most definitely NOT play in this ridiculous fashion.

That said, WVU's guys have very, very active hands. I'd be most concerned about this aspect.