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adoptedzag
03-12-2017, 04:01 PM
This is only the top half of the bracket. Please add any that you find:

SDSU (Credit RenoZag):
http://www.gojacks.com/index.aspx?path=mbball
http://sdsufans.com/board/forumdisplay.php?50-Jackrabbit-Men-s-Basketball&

Vandy:
http://www.scout.com/college/vanderbilt/forums/2200-vanderbilt-men-s-basketball
http://www.14powers.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=3

Northwestern:
http://northwestern.247sports.com/Board/Northwestern-Wildcats-Message-Board-Forum-59466
https://northwestern.forums.rivals.com/forums/wildcat-basketball-board.18/

Notre Dame:
https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=main&forumid=3
http://www.ndnation.com/boards/index.php?thepit
https://notredame.forums.rivals.com/forums/under-the-dome.8/

Princeton:
http://boards.basketball-u.com/showforum.php?fid/44/

West Virginia:
http://www.scout.com/college/west-virginia/forums/2509-bgn-basketball
https://westvirginia.forums.rivals.com/forums/mountaineer-message-board.28/

Bucknell:
http://boards.basketball-u.com/showforum.php?fid/53/

Added an additional Vandy mb, thanks Goshzagit!

hooter73
03-13-2017, 11:20 AM
Anyone checked out GIAG yet to see how SMC is feeling about Arizona? I think the have VCU in the bag but AZ is a 60/40 game that they could pull out the win on if they don't play like they did against us. Hmm come to think of it, they only played like that against us, a higher rated team. If they lay down against AZ, I'd say the WCC and crap scheduling strikes again...

sittingon50
03-13-2017, 11:49 AM
They don't seem to be getting ahead of themselves. Concerned with that 1st one.

I think they win. VCU will get picked on a lot of brackets, but not sure if they've seen anyone with SMC's style. Think VCU could get picked apart.

gonzagafan62
03-16-2017, 08:54 PM
Spike - the bulldog of course!

gonzagafan62
03-16-2017, 09:10 PM
Some Northwestern fan talked about the cupcake WCC.

Don't think the big ten was very good this year lol

DixieZag
03-16-2017, 09:15 PM
Some Northwestern fan talked about the cupcake WCC.

Don't think the big ten was very good this year lol

The more Northwestern thinks and acts like Iowa 2 years ago, the better.

gonzagafan62
03-16-2017, 09:49 PM
The more Northwestern thinks and acts like Iowa 2 years ago, the better.

That's exactly what me and another poster were saying about 45 mins ago.

Also said we were the best team we would face in months. I mean according to seed SMC is better...

At least we get to decide this thing on the court.

LongIslandZagFan
03-17-2017, 04:32 AM
Yeah... some Northwestern fans seem to think Zags are a bit of a joke to them.

CarolinaZagFan
03-17-2017, 04:49 AM
Yeah... some Northwestern fans seem to think Zags are a bit of a joke to them.

Make one NCAA tournament and I guess you get a little big for your britches. I just hope the boys come out playing loose.

LongIslandZagFan
03-17-2017, 05:55 AM
Coming from a team that has not had a winning conference record since the 1960s, including this year, to be touting the old "conference" adage is a bit rich.

TexasZagFan
03-17-2017, 06:10 AM
Coming from a team that has not had a winning conference record since the 1960s, including this year, to be touting the old "conference" adage is a bit rich.

I'm waiting for the old "we'd dominate if we played in the WCC"...

Birddog
03-17-2017, 06:12 AM
Everybody should go over there and talk up a lot of smack, maybe suggest that they are mentally weak because of their dearth of NCAA Tournament experience. Be sure to remind them of the intentional foul gift they received.

SWZag
03-17-2017, 07:48 AM
They aren't quite as bad as St. John's a few years ago, but they are a bit out of touch. They went 10-8 in league....

gobroncsgozags
03-17-2017, 08:22 AM
They don't seem to be too bad overall. Some are really drinking the kool-aid that their Cinderella story means they are anything more than a mediocre team.

Zagceo
03-17-2017, 09:05 AM
my fav so far....NU board


How many schools have had a Nobel Laureate and State governor in prison in the last ten years?

DixieZag
03-17-2017, 09:13 AM
But for one real boneheaded play and a team settling for a 30 ft jump shot with 3 seconds to go, they'd be done.

TexasZagFan
03-17-2017, 09:20 AM
my fav so far....NU board

The opportunities are far greater with an undergraduate student body of 21K vs. 5K.

I'll give them credit, though. I'll bet that most of them could find Spokane on a map.

They'll be introduced to Messrs. Karnowski, Williams-Goss, and others in about 28 hours. I'm sure they'll remember it in the years to come.

Zagceo
03-17-2017, 09:23 AM
The opportunities are far greater with an undergraduate student body of 21K vs. 5K.

I'll give them credit, though. I'll bet that most of them could find Spokane on a map.

agree

that same Gov in prison received his JD from Pepperdine....just saying

TexasZagFan
03-17-2017, 09:26 AM
agree

that same Gov in prison received his JD from Pepperdine....just saying

Ken Starr worked there, too, before taking over at Baylor...ouch! And to think he was the pious one that went after Bill Clinton. Or as they say, be careful what you wish for.

zagmantis2001
03-17-2017, 09:27 AM
The opportunities are far greater with an undergraduate student body of 21K vs. 5K.

I'll give them credit, though. I'll bet that most of them could find Spokane on a map.

They'll be introduced to Messrs. Karnowski, Williams-Goss, and others in about 28 hours. I'm sure they'll remember it in the years to come.

Meh. They seem like good fans to me. They are just excited for their team got in the tournament--like we all did when GU got in 1999 and had success. I remember being totally jacked that GU was even in the top 25 in the final poll after the tournament was over-and actually getting to see games on TV the next season. We have been spoiled for 18 years. Think we can beat them, but can't fault NW fans for being excited and hopeful.

Zagceo
03-17-2017, 09:31 AM
Meh. They seem like good fans to me. They are just excited for their team got in the tournament--like we all did when GU got in 1999 and had success. I remember being totally jacked that GU was even in the top 25 in the final poll after the tournament was over-and actually getting to see games on TV the next season. We have been spoiled for 18 years. Think we can beat them, but can't fault NW fans for being excited and hopeful.

I don't see anybody here faulting their excitement....like jazz posted...looks genuine.

zagmantis2001
03-17-2017, 09:41 AM
I don't see anybody here faulting their excitement....like jazz posted...looks genuine.

Read the other posts in the thread.

SWZag
03-17-2017, 10:05 AM
Meh. They seem like good fans to me. They are just excited for their team got in the tournament--like we all did when GU got in 1999 and had success. I remember being totally jacked that GU was even in the top 25 in the final poll after the tournament was over-and actually getting to see games on TV the next season. We have been spoiled for 18 years. Think we can beat them, but can't fault NW fans for being excited and hopeful.

One must recognize the difference between excitement and putting the other team down (weak league, etc, etc). Two different things.

TexasZagFan
03-17-2017, 10:51 AM
One must recognize the difference between excitement and putting the other team down (weak league, etc, etc). Two different things.

The "WCC is a crap conference" meme is as flat as an open coke can left at the I-10 rest stop near Van Horn, TX during July.

LongIslandZagFan
03-17-2017, 10:53 AM
The "WCC is a crap conference" meme is as flat as an open coke can left at the I-10 rest stop near Van Horn, TX during July.

Oddly specific. ;)

TexasZagFan
03-17-2017, 10:57 AM
Oddly specific. ;)

In your honor, I should have come up with an I-35 reference...not much difference in July. Van Horn is usually our last stop on our trips to El Paso. There's a Mexican restaurant that's in the John Madden Hall of Fame. It's good, but HOF? To each his own.

BTW, did you stop in West? There's a Czech bakery off I-35 that's incredible.

zagmantis2001
03-17-2017, 11:09 AM
One must recognize the difference between excitement and putting the other team down (weak league, etc, etc). Two different things.

I realize that sometimes tone is lost when you aren't communicating with someone face to face, but frankly, this comes off as snotty and condescending. I'm entitled to an opinion, don't really need a lecture.

SWZag
03-17-2017, 11:13 AM
I realize that sometimes tone is lost when you aren't communicating with someone face to face, but frankly, this comes off as snotty and condescending. I'm entitled to an opinion, don't really need a lecture.
My apologies, no lecturing here. My comment stems from your comment about how jacked you were. That is because GU was doing well. I'm not sure you were talking trash about the other team. What I've read on the NU board is talking trash about GU's schedule, league, etc. There is a difference between being jacked up and excited vs. down talking your opponent. The latter doesn't mean you're excited. :)

MickMick
03-17-2017, 11:38 AM
It is a great story. Their eventual fall will be hard for them to take. Sort of like your first time falling in love. You always remember the first one vividly.

I hope they build a consistent contender. Their enthusiastic fan base deserves it.

Martin Centre Mad Man
03-17-2017, 11:42 AM
Some Northwestern fan talked about the cupcake WCC.

Don't think the big ten was very good this year lol

FWIW they played the same number of games against RPI Top 25 teams as Gonzaga did. They went 1-5 in those games with a 2 point home win over No. 25 Michigan as their best win of the season.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/teams/rpi/NWEST/northwestern-wildcats

Gonzaga went 6-0 against RPI Top 25 competition.

thespywhozaggedme
03-17-2017, 11:44 AM
Oddly specific. ;)

Those exact words were in a scene of Superstore when an attractive female guest star was hitting on the lead male and said, "You're so sexy, you're like a Jewish Kennedy" and his exact response was, "that's oddly specific" and I lol'd when he said it, and again when you typed it. :roll:

SWZag
03-18-2017, 12:53 PM
bump

gonzagafan62
03-18-2017, 01:06 PM
WVU hasn't learned their lesson yet.

If we beat northwestern we just need to pound them again

http://www.scout.com/college/west-virginia/forums/2509-bgn-basketball/15464266-gonzaga-will-be-tough-to-get-points-in-the-paint

Zagceo
03-20-2017, 01:08 AM
fav from WV board


. He would pick East Tennesee Bible and Cosmetology College over the Zags if he could. I wouldn't read too much into it.

in reference to Dakich picking WV over GU


Yep, first positive thing I've ever heard from him. It doesn't have me concerned. The guy is a complete basketball idiot.. too stupid to pull off the reverse jinx

SWZag
03-20-2017, 09:29 AM
West Virginia:
http://www.scout.com/college/west-virginia/forums/2509-bgn-basketball
https://westvirginia.forums.rivals.com/forums/mountaineer-message-board.28/


The typical is happening on the WVU board. Very uneducated fans on GU or most anything really.

Goshzagit
03-20-2017, 11:26 AM
From WVU board:

[QUOTETheir guards are experienced, athletic and can attack the rim once they beat the press. They also shoot the ball well but have struggled lately.[/QUOTE]

They have noticed!

LongIslandZagFan
03-20-2017, 01:23 PM
The cherry pick stats to make themselves feel better about their chances. Not saying 100% GU wins... but when you start talking about ball handlers and include JW3... ummm... you don't know the Zags.

adoptedzag
03-20-2017, 01:40 PM
fav from WV board



in reference to Dakich picking WV over GU

HAH! That was me! Glad I made someone chuckle :)

tinfoilzag
03-20-2017, 01:55 PM
http://www.scout.com/college/west-virginia/forums/2509-bgn-basketball/15469343-gonzaga-scout-page

Gonzaga has a scout page?
Spokane is a college town?

Akzag
03-23-2017, 08:46 PM
Elite Eight Bump

Akzag
03-23-2017, 08:58 PM
this looks like the most active ... http://www.xavierhoops.com/forumdisplay.php?54-Men-s-Basketball

Akzag
03-23-2017, 08:58 PM
musketeermadness.com

Ezag
03-23-2017, 09:18 PM
this looks like the most active ... http://www.xavierhoops.com/forumdisplay.php?54-Men-s-Basketball

What a bunch of a-holes on that board

Alum08
03-23-2017, 09:37 PM
What a bunch of a-holes on that board

To be fair, XUBREW makes a spot on description of our tourney history: http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?31893-Gonzaga&p=586615&viewfull=1#post586615

bartruff1
03-23-2017, 09:43 PM
What a bunch of a-holes on that board

My least favorite team and coach...as classy as WV and Coach Huggins is.....Mack and the " Zip them up " bunch will be the opposite.

I lost all respect for them and their school for the brawl and the way the school handled it..

kitzbuel
03-23-2017, 09:45 PM
To be fair, XUBREW makes a spot on description of our tourney history: http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?31893-Gonzaga&p=586615&viewfull=1#post586615

He used to come around here quite a bit.

Ezag
03-23-2017, 09:47 PM
To be fair, XUBREW makes a spot on description of our tourney history: http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?31893-Gonzaga&p=586615&viewfull=1#post586615

A couple of ok/decent posts but most regurgitating the same old anti-Zag rhetoric. We need to dispatch them with haste

krozman
03-23-2017, 09:48 PM
A couple of ok/decent posts but most regurgitating the same old anti-Zag rhetoric. We need to dispatch them with haste

My guess it that it will take 40 minutes.

Alum08
03-23-2017, 09:50 PM
My guess it that it will take 40 minutes.

More like 3 hours if we have the same officiating crew.

ZagsGoZags
03-23-2017, 10:18 PM
I read this post from their board. Makes me laugh, and the more we win the more I laugh:


Hell no F**k the Zags. Every year they get this inflated ranking then do well in a conference that is awful. Then comes tournament time they #### the bed. That program is a fraud and after we beat desert raccoon I hope we face them. For any of you who root for that fraudulent team you are either in your 70's or in college, F**K the Zags

adoptedzag
03-23-2017, 11:09 PM
Wow, bunch of internet tough guys over there. LOL Ah well, it'll all be settled in 48 hours anyway.

ZagsGoZags
03-24-2017, 06:55 AM
yes, they talk real tough,
some of the general east coast disgust with GU I just cannot comprehend ...
the only way to answer that stuff is what we are doing, win again

adoptedzag
03-25-2017, 08:34 PM
Florida:
http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/
http://florida.247sports.com/Board/Florida-Gators-Message-Board-Forum-14
https://florida.forums.rivals.com/forums/gator-sports-forum.14/
http://www.scout.com/college/florida/forums

South Carolina:
https://southcarolina.forums.rivals.com/forums/fighting-gamecocks-forum.10/
http://www.cockytalk.com/
http://southcarolina.247sports.com/Board/South-Carolina-Gamecocks-Message-Board-Forum-44
http://www.secrant.com/rant/gamecock-sports/

sittingon50
03-26-2017, 06:13 PM
Looks like the other USC is already advancing to the Title Game. Zags aren't even mentioned by name in that particular thread.

tinfoilzag
03-26-2017, 07:06 PM
Not surprising the USC fans on the forums are "Cocky".

It's the same ol' stuff: they are more athletic than GU, GU plays in a weak conference and hasn't seen anything like USC's defense, the teams they already beat are better than GU. It's like there are only 10 posters on these big conference forums and they just move from forum to forum posting the same cliches.

Oh well, let them have their week to feel invincible , they earned it. I know our guys will not underestimate them.

kitzbuel
03-26-2017, 07:56 PM
Not surprising the USC fans on the forums are "Cocky".

It's the same ol' stuff: they are more athletic than GU, GU plays in a weak conference and hasn't seen anything like USC's defense, the teams they already beat are better than GU. It's like there are only 10 posters on these big conference forums and they just move from forum to forum posting the same cliches.

Oh well, let them have their week to feel invincible , they earned it. I know our guys will not underestimate them.

Good Lord, I wonder if they pay any attention to college basketball. At a minimum they need to look at the WVU Gonzaga box score.

gonzagafan62
03-26-2017, 08:24 PM
They say on their boards that we haven't faced a defense like theirs...... HA! Bunch of goons

We've already beaten #4 and #5 in defense.... might as well take down #2.

Oh and we are #1 in defense. Let's see how they like a rock fight

ZagLawGrad
03-26-2017, 08:25 PM
They say on their boards that we haven't faced a defense like theirs...... HA! Bunch of goons

We've already beaten #4 and #5 in defense.... might as well take down #2.

Oh and we are #1 in defense. Let's see how they like a rock fight

:cheers::cheers:

zagsfanforlife
03-26-2017, 08:37 PM
Welp... i guess ill tell my dad i am cancelling the trip to Phoenix. According to the SC board, we have zero chance against the mighty defense they will impose against us. No sense in showing up to what is surely going to be a South Carolina throttling--- they have this defense that is unlike anything we have ever seen before. Our overrated Zags cant possibly score against the #2 defense in all of the land-- something we clearly have never seen anything like.

After reading their board, i am expecting the Monstars to show up on Friday--- the 1st half Monstars.

Ezag
03-26-2017, 08:47 PM
Not surprising the USC fans on the forums are "Cocky".

It's the same ol' stuff: they are more athletic than GU, GU plays in a weak conference and hasn't seen anything like USC's defense, the teams they already beat are better than GU. It's like there are only 10 posters on these big conference forums and they just move from forum to forum posting the same cliches.

Oh well, let them have their week to feel invincible , they earned it. I know our guys will not underestimate them.

Only way to shut them up is to keep winning.

zag buddy
03-26-2017, 09:04 PM
Found this
https://southcarolina.forums.rivals.com/forums/fighting-gamecocks-forum.10/
I don't know if there is another.

Zags11
03-26-2017, 09:29 PM
You realize opponent's probably think the same as we do? Homerism is at its finest. If we both play our A game's its a 10 point win for us and not being biased at all....

SWZag
03-28-2017, 06:33 AM
Bump




South Carolina:
https://southcarolina.forums.rivals.com/forums/fighting-gamecocks-forum.10/
http://www.cockytalk.com/
http://southcarolina.247sports.com/Board/South-Carolina-Gamecocks-Message-Board-Forum-44
http://www.secrant.com/rant/gamecock-sports/

gueastcoast
03-28-2017, 07:36 AM
You realize opponent's probably think the same as we do? Homerism is at its finest. If we both play our A game's its a 10 point win for us and not being biased at all....

I'm totally ok with homerism. Check out LIZF's standard thread on "what you want to see/predict the score", and it's fairly (and expectedly) unanimous. It's the power conference "they haven't played anyone, never seen anyone like us, yada yada" stuff that grates.

CanadianZagsFan
03-28-2017, 04:46 PM
They say on their boards that we haven't faced a defense like theirs...... HA! Bunch of goons

We've already beaten #4 and #5 in defense.... might as well take down #2.

Oh and we are #1 in defense. Let's see how they like a rock fight

Hell ya! I'm Canadian though. This Gonzaga version fits my personality/coaching style with improved D. I think we have ideal guards with bigs inside to match up blow for blow if it turns into dirty gritty game.

I hope Few learned a lot this year that this is the exact type of team needed moving forward. You want to fight us in the alley? GU can play that style too. I think we need 8th-9th-10th man next year that exemplifies that trait , not smallish type point guard taking up roster spot at end of rotation.

ZagaZags
03-28-2017, 08:24 PM
South Carolina:
https://southcarolina.forums.rivals.com/forums/fighting-gamecocks-forum.10/
http://www.cockytalk.com/
http://southcarolina.247sports.com/Board/South-Carolina-Gamecocks-Message-Board-Forum-44
http://www.secrant.com/rant/gamecock-sports/[/QUOTE]

Damn, that's a ton of Cocks.

zagsfanforlife
03-28-2017, 09:01 PM
SC is good but position for position, is there anyone but Thornwell (maybe) that you would take position by position on SC's side:

Dozier vs NWG
Notice vs Perkins
Thornwell vs Mathews
Kotsar vs JW3
Silva vs Karnowski

Our bench is a significant upgrade over theirs as well.

It's march so anything can happen, but...I like our chances.

Zagceo
03-28-2017, 09:10 PM
Silva 6-9 223 against Przemek.....that could be a problem

rennis
03-28-2017, 09:23 PM
Silva 6-9 223 against Przemek.....that could be a problem

Yes. For Frank Martin.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

caduceus
03-29-2017, 04:05 AM
Every team's board we played made precisely this argument, but failed to remember the nuance that the defensive ratings are adjusted for the opponents' offensive efficiency.

I'll add to that. Based on the best evidence we have (KenPom and actual games), if the Zags were to play every team in the SEC, predicted outcomes would be (neutral court):

Zags over South Carolina: 72-63 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=South%20Carolina&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Kentucky: 78-74 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Kentucky&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Florida: 77-72 (actual result; predicted 74-70 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Florida&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true))
Zags over Arkansas: 82-70 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Arkansas&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Vanderbilt: 75-64 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Vanderbilt&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Georgia: 76-62 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Georgia&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Ole Miss: 85-68 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Mississippi&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Alabama: 71-58 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Alabama&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Tennessee: 86-76 (actual result; predicted 80-65 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Tennessee&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true))

The remaining dregs of the SEC all have losing records....shall I go on?

MJ777
03-29-2017, 04:42 AM
I'll add to that. Based on the best evidence we have (KenPom and actual games), if the Zags were to play every team in the SEC, predicted outcomes would be (neutral court):

Zags over South Carolina: 72-63 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=South%20Carolina&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Kentucky: 78-74 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Kentucky&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Florida: 77-72 (actual result; predicted 74-70 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Florida&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true))
Zags over Arkansas: 82-70 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Arkansas&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Vanderbilt: 75-64 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Vanderbilt&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Georgia: 76-62 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Georgia&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Ole Miss: 85-68 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Mississippi&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Alabama: 71-58 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Alabama&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true)
Zags over Tennessee: 86-76 (actual result; predicted 80-65 (http://gamepredict.us/kenpom?team_a=Tennessee&team_b=Gonzaga&neutral=true))

The remaining dregs of the SEC all have losing records....shall I go on?

Thanks for posting this cad, SeCJeremy.... almost had me convinced that GU should stay in Spokane and have their FF Participant ribbons mailed to them. Saturday's game should be a tough defensive contest. I can see the game causing a multitude of Maalox moments with the final score being in the 60s like the GU-WVU game.

So. Carolina is a Hot team and in 1 game the better team doesn't always win so the GCocks could certainly win. I'm feeling pretty good about my pick (Not Reborn good, but good) on the Homerism prediction thread. I picked 71-64 without knowing the KenPom predicted score.

Go Zags!

TexasZagFan
03-29-2017, 05:10 AM
Thanks for posting this cad, SeCJeremy.... almost had me convinced that GU should stay in Spokane and have their FF Participant ribbons mailed to them. Saturday's game should be a tough defensive contest. I can see the game causing a multitude of Maalox moments with the final score being in the 60s like the GU-WVU game.

So. Carolina is a Hot team and in 1 game the better team doesn't always win so the GCocks could certainly win. I'm feeling pretty good about my pick (Not Reborn good, but good) on the Homerism prediction thread. I picked 71-64 without knowing the KenPom predicted score.

Go Zags!

Duke was undoubtedly the hottest team entering the Dance floor. That kind of heat is tough to sustain.

All of this talk about how tough the Gamecocks' defense is may serve to stoke our flames on defense. That's ok, we're used to it. Just consider the points we've allowed by half during our four games:

SDSU: 22/24
NW: 20/53
WVU: 30/28
XAV: 39/20

In six of eight halves, the opponent scored 30 or fewer points. In the second half of the Xavier game, they scored 6 points in final ten minutes.

Is past performance a guarantee of future results? Of course not, but I like our chances.

As to toughness, allow me this memory of Shem standing over a Tennessee player after the poor guy just bounced off the big fellow. Shem roared, "hit the weight room!"

To our friends in South Carolina, you can't practice/gameplan for one of the best passing big men in the country.

sittingon50
03-29-2017, 09:27 AM
[QUOTE=MJ777;1309769].... almost had me convinced that GU should stay in Spokane and have their FF Participant ribbons mailed to them.

QUOTE]

And miss out on the cookies & juice boxes? No way!!

TexasZagFan
03-29-2017, 09:49 AM
And the offenses you played were far worse than the offenses we played. Hence, the reason why you were opponents didn't score as much. Not saying our defenses aren't good but their offenses being bad was indeed a factor in the number of points they scored.

Saturday can't get here soon enough...lol.

https://lh6.ggpht.com/lCkT1fTySWeZV1ED7WlrgGlrqCF5V6ATeu9jtXQsPZW7qAMzTS my0_j_KTBW50mQdA=h900

team6
03-29-2017, 09:59 AM
Go see the closed thread if you aren't sure what I'm talking about as far as offenses our teams have played in the tournament. You can look at the numbers alone and believe what you see. However, putting those numbers in context tells a different story.

And yes, when Saturday comes all the talk is for naught. I'm a pretty busy guy so while I've been on here a bit the last day or so, I won't be on as much the rest of the week.

You should go back to that thread and look at the post were I point that fg % D is far far more important that ppg D. And as the numbers look zags should shoot 48% and sc should shoot 32%. And you guys haven't held the other offense that much under their fg % save for baylor.

kitzbuel
03-29-2017, 10:00 AM
We do look at the WVU box score. If their defense can hold you to 61, be within 3 with a shot to tie at the end of the game, and shut down some of your scorers, why can't we?

You look at that game as a negative. I see it as a positive. If they did that to you, why can't we?
If Alabama can hang 90 on you, we have a shot.

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DixieZag
03-29-2017, 10:20 AM
If Alabama can hang 90 on you, we have a shot.

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That's not really fair. There are some NFL teams that would probably have a tough time defending Alabama's ....

Oh, wait, the basketball team scored 90?

bartruff1
03-29-2017, 10:35 AM
It will all come down to who can make some shots in that stadium.....and who can make their free throws....

TexasZagFan
03-29-2017, 10:37 AM
That's not really fair. There are some NFL teams that would probably have a tough time defending Alabama's ....

Oh, wait, the basketball team scored 90?

LOL. Avery Johnson's a good coach. I think he's better for college hoops, than NBA. His kind of discipline wears off after a few years with the pros, a timeline perfect for college players.

northsidezagfan
03-29-2017, 10:50 AM
That's not really fair. There are some NFL teams that would probably have a tough time defending Alabama's ....

Oh, wait, the basketball team scored 90?

Nicely done!

USCJeremyinCali
03-29-2017, 10:59 AM
If Alabama can hang 90 on you, we have a shot.

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If BYU can hang 85 on you and San Francisco can hang 80, we have a shot too.

See, two can play this game!

You do realize that game went to 4 OTs right???!! Alabama had 57 points at the end of regulation.

Seriously, if you're going to talk smack please pay closer attention! You guys are really showing your ignorance right now.

CarolinaZagFan
03-29-2017, 10:59 AM
If Alabama can hang 90 on you, we have a shot.

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:roll:

USCJeremyinCali
03-29-2017, 11:07 AM
:roll:

Shhhh!!! You need to pay closer attention to. See above.

gozagswoohoo
03-29-2017, 11:12 AM
Shhhh!!! You need to pay closer attention to. See above.

Listen, you guys had a fantastic season, it's nothing to be ashamed of! Be happy and proud that they exceeded expectations! That's seriously super good.

Congrats on a wonderful season (that ends on Saturday). :cheers:

LongIslandZagFan
03-29-2017, 11:15 AM
If BYU can hang 85 on you and San Francisco can hang 80, we have a shot too.

See, two can play this game!

You do realize that game went to 4 OTs right???!! Alabama had 57 points at the end of regulation.

Seriously, if you're going to talk smack please pay closer attention! You guys are really showing your ignorance right now.

We also realize you lost to Bama... twice. A team that went to the NIT and lost in the first round. OT or not.

USCJeremyinCali
03-29-2017, 11:15 AM
Listen, you guys had a fantastic season, it's nothing to be ashamed of! Be happy and proud that they exceeded expectations! That's seriously super good.

Congrats on a wonderful season (that ends on Saturday). :cheers:

Thanks. You are right on all accounts. We have exceeded expectations. If we lose on Saturday, we will be disappointed but are ecstatic we are where we are.

For you guys, it's about time. For us, it's "what the hell just happened?!"

USCJeremyinCali
03-29-2017, 11:19 AM
We also realize you lost to Bama... twice. A team that went to the NIT and lost in the first round. OT or not.

And you lost to BYU. And Kentucky lost to UT. And Kansas lost to TCU. And they had better records. We are still playing. They aren't. And on and on we can go. It's basketball. It happens. Teams don't go undefeated. Every team has bad losses.

But the attempt to bring up Alabama and talk smack that they scored 90 is weak and ignorant.

CarolinaZagFan
03-29-2017, 11:28 AM
Shhhh!!! You need to pay closer attention to. See above.

Ok Sherlock if you're going to hate on people's investigating skills at least get yours right. We never gave up 85 to BYU. The WCC isn't the cakewalk P5 schools think it is. It isn't easy going on the road and playing in a high school gym that is packed to the rafters for the only time all season. With the players and fans hyped out of their minds embracing their only chance to rush the floor all season. Speaking of which, has anyone ever rushed the floor after beating the Gamecocks?

LongIslandZagFan
03-29-2017, 11:30 AM
And you lost to BYU. And Kentucky lost to UT. And Kansas lost to TCU. And they had better records. We are still playing. They aren't. And on and on we can go. It's basketball. It happens. Teams don't go undefeated. Every team has bad losses.

But the attempt to bring up Alabama and talk smack that they scored 90 is weak and ignorant.

But you did lose, twice, to that very team... no? They have a top 10 ranked D... how did you do against it?

USCJeremyinCali
03-29-2017, 11:33 AM
Ok Sherlock if you're going to hate on people's investigating skills at least get yours right. We never gave up 85 to BYU. The WCC isn't the cakewalk P5 schools think it is. It isn't easy going on the road and playing in a high school gym that is packed to the rafters for the only time all season. With the players and fans hyped out of their minds embracing their only chance to rush the floor all season. Speaking of which, has anyone ever rushed the floor after beating the Gamecocks?

Sorry my bad. You gave up 79 and 75 points to BYU.

We all know our basketball history. No one has to tell us. And while you hate being looked down upon as a school since you're not P5, don't you think your success the last few years has made a few of you start looking down on us? We've never been as successful as the Zags but doesn't make us any less worthy of being in the Final 4. Nor does it guarantee you will beat us, we have no shot, our defense can't stop your offense, etc and all the other claims some on here are making.

I've never dismissed the Zags success or accomplishments. But it seems like some of you don't want to take what we've accomplished seriously. Think about that. Your guys more than anyone should know how that feels.

USCJeremyinCali
03-29-2017, 11:40 AM
But you did lose, twice, to that very team... no? They have a top 10 ranked D... how did you do against it?

Their D is ranked 28th in scoring defense. And yeah, we lost. Every team has bad games.

Now that all the Zags are experts on our losses to Alabama, I guess we shouldn't have even made the tournament huh? Does our 4 OT loss give you any more insight as to how we will play on Saturday? After all, losing twice to Bama must mean we are due to lose again right? You haven't lost to BYU in a while. Maybe you're due to?

Did I mention we were in the Final 4? Because it seems like our two losses to Alabama are the only things that matter and can be used to predict anything right now.

LongIslandZagFan
03-29-2017, 11:55 AM
Their D is ranked 28th in scoring defense. And yeah, we lost. Every team has bad games.

Now that all the Zags are experts on our losses to Alabama, I guess we shouldn't have even made the tournament huh? Does our 4 OT loss give you any more insight as to how we will play on Saturday? After all, losing twice to Bama must mean we are due to lose again right? You haven't lost to BYU in a while. Maybe you're due to?

Did I mention we were in the Final 4? Because it seems like our two losses to Alabama are the only things that matter and can be used to predict anything right now.

KenPom has their adjusted D at 10.

BTW... you keep bringing up BYU... but two loses to Bama is off limits... bad games (plural).

former1dog
03-29-2017, 11:56 AM
Their D is ranked 28th in scoring defense. And yeah, we lost. Every team has bad games.

Now that all the Zags are experts on our losses to Alabama, I guess we shouldn't have even made the tournament huh? Does our 4 OT loss give you any more insight as to how we will play on Saturday? After all, losing twice to Bama must mean we are due to lose again right? You haven't lost to BYU in a while. Maybe you're due to?

Did I mention we were in the Final 4? Because it seems like our two losses to Alabama are the only things that matter and can be used to predict anything right now.

The game come down to how the teams respond and play on that day. Here's some scenarios and who wins in each:

GU plays best game of season; USC plays best game of the season - GU Win
GU plays average game; USC plays best game of the season - GU Win (barely)
GU plays below average; USC plays best game of the season - USC Wins comfortably
GU plays best game of season; USC plays average - GU Wins comfortably
GU plays best game of season; USC plays below average - GU Wins by large margin
GU plays average; USC plays average - GU Wins comfortably

So on and so forth.

I think GU has to play a couple levels below its best game for USC to win.

The good news for you I think is that USC has been playing at its best for the whole tournament and GU hasn't. I would say first half of SDSU GU played two levels below best and average in the second half. Reverse that for the Northwestern game, where I think GU played horribly in the second half. GU was average, I thought against WVU. The played good, if not their best against Xavier.

Zags11
03-29-2017, 12:37 PM
I don't like down playing teams. I am always nervous watching games. If we both play our A game's, its a zag victory by 10+. This isn't homerism at all either. Its called we are 36-1 and its not a "soft" record. We knocked off Cinderella northwestern and Xavier. We beat wvu who was scary good at D

MJ777
03-29-2017, 09:46 PM
I expect a close tough game. I hope i am wrong and that the Zags win by 10 plus.

ZagsToRiches
03-29-2017, 09:51 PM
First of all, the Gamecocks have been playing great basketball. Much respect to them for getting to this point. They're super fun to watch, and I respect their game a lot. Aside, am I the only one who notices that they play in the style of their mascot? They look like a bunch of birds running around on defense with their wings spread, flapping attentively. They practically create a wall of arms, fingers nearly touching their teammates'. That's a compliment to their coaching staff; it's extremely difficult to maintain that kind of effort for an entire basketball game. They have flat-out outclassed their opponents in the tourney to get to where they are, and they deserve it. Marquette, Duke, Baylor, Florida. All great teams. But are you seeing a recurring trend? Where are the strong bigs? And by strong, I mean 7'1" 300 lb. strong. 7'0" All American strong. Baylor is big-ish, but something was missing from the second half of their season.

In an attempt to put this matchup into perspective, I would like to highlight another team who was having a fabulous tournament run. Xavier. They beat Maryland, FSU, and Arizona. Woah, that's kind of scary right? And they were able to pull it off for many of the same reasons that SC has done so well. I'm sure their fans were just as certain that we "weren't taking them seriously." "Look at our shooting percentage, they said!" "Bluiett can't be stopped!" It's true, they were putting together much better offensive (and defensive) performances than they had during the regular season. But that didn't pan out against the Zags.

This Zags team has challenged the modern notion that a a bunch of large, athletic shooting guards and versatile power forwards are greater than a classic center-led offense. Is our offense as flashy as those teams? Not exactly. Does our big man strategy win games though? Yes. Especially in the NCAA. This isn't the NBA, featuring teams loaded with guards who can punish you from the 3 point line with dazzling efficiency. College teams just can't fill their rosters with that kind of shooting talent. There aren't enough developed players to go around. They're teenagers! The Zags, however, were built to win games in the NCAA. People have forgotten why this style of basketball was so effective for so long. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we can't shoot the 3 ball, but our perimeter offense is generated because of our dominance in the paint. 83.2 ppg! That seems pretty exciting to me.

I saw some ESPN article that predicted SC is one team in the tournament that could be "built to beat Gonzaga." I'm sure that article was written to get all of the SEC fans pumped up, but I'm sorry, SC is not built to beat Gonzaga. Nobody is. No team in the nation has what we have. If we run our standard offensive scheme, passing inside to our bigs, you're going to have to put your best guys in a position to get into foul trouble. Kotsar and Silva are going to need help. Sindarius, Notice, Dozier, or whoever else is on the wing will need to collapse and help. And they're bound to pick up some ticky-tac fouls in the process. You're going to need depth to go two halves with the Zags. Are you going to double or triple Karnowski? That leaves someone open for a three, and all of our guards can hit (even Collins and JWIII hit on occasion). Or you give up a baseline jam, courtesy of the aforementioned. And if you don't double Shem, if he gets so much as one foot near the paint, his left handed hook is about as automatic as I've ever seen. And Collins, he's just dangerous in so many different ways.

Then there's the challenge with our depth. Gonzaga utilizes a 9 man rotation that, frankly, has little to no drop-off in talent. It's like choosing between the Ferrari, Bentley, Hummer, or B-52 bomber. They're all good options with different strengths. And it's confusing for defenses. Every time one of our bench players checks in, I get excited! Normally, substitution time is a liiiitttle sketchy. But not with this team. Collins is a 7'0" future NBA lottery pick who adds an athletic dynamic to our game on offense, but especially on defense as a rim and paint protector. And man, can he run the floor. Tillie, another future top ten NBA lottery pick (don't believe me, check it out: http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft) who absolutely doesn't care how hard he has to work, because he's not going to play enough minutes to foul out or get tired anyway. I don't know how a man of his size moves so well. Oh, and he can shoot jumpers, passes like Sabonis, rebounds with passion, and actually makes free throws. He just gets the job done, and gets better every game. Melson is one of our best defensive players, and one of our most underestimated offensive threats. And that guy can jump! Or Rui, a 6' 8" raw, athletic, genetic freak who is still growing. Another future top-10 NBA lottery pick. He seems better every time he graces the court, and leaves you wishing he could play more minutes, casually hitting threes, or driving to the lane for powerful finishes above the rim. I am so excited to see him play next season. Our depth is probably one of our most important assets. But most importantly, we are rarely in foul trouble.

I know it's been mentioned, and even SC fans seem cognizant of this fact, but I'm going to vent a little bit. I'm really sick and tired of people taking our defense for granted. Gonzaga is the #1 defensive team in the country! Not West Virginia, not South Carolina. Gonzaga is #1. We're not afraid of your defense as much as you should be afraid of ours. My guess is that we're so balanced that our defense has become a backstory for this team. But, it's the reason we're here! SC fans seem so adamant about their amazing offensive output during tournament play, repeatedly proclaiming that their team has finally reached its true form! So you can officially throw their regular season numbers out of the window. Fair enough, let's do that. Congratulations, you're an elite offensive team. Guess what, it doesn't matter! Again, you're playing the best defensive team in the country, and our offense is still better than yours. As sure as you are that we can't handle your defense, that we haven't seen anything like it, I'm more confident that you can't handle ours. As far as I'm concerned, the game is over, based on our defense alone; I don't even need to get into our offensive capabilities. Our defense wins games (see WV slug-fest). I think there is a strong likelihood that they would have been in the final four, potentially final game if they beat us. Even when we have a hard time scoring in the half court, it's still a close game that we likely win, because that's what this team does. They find a way to win. If we do end up scoring, it's a blowout. The reason opponents are absolutely shaken by us is because our bigs are so effective defending the paint and the rim. Our guards are able to play extremely tight perimeter defense, because they know that our bigs have their back. This forces some turnovers, but most importantly "it contests shots." We have shut down other teams' best players over and over. SDSU's 2nd leading scorer IN THE NATION, "Daum-inator", nada. Xavier's red-hot Bluiett, nada. JWIII is the key here. A 6'9" athletic power forward who can extend to defend large shooting guards. *Cough Sindarius* Seriously though, Sindarius will likely get his points. He's a future NBA star; but I like our odds of slowing him down.

The biggest factor that helps me to sleep at night, is that your team has played to their maximum potential to get to this point. We have been playing well below ours. Let's be honest, the Zags had been playing ugly up until the Xavier game. That was the first full game since our loss to BYU that we actually put all of the pieces back together. But that's the great thing about this team. They don't have to play 40 minutes of great basketball to win games. SC will have to have a great game against us. My guess is that just like with Xavier, SC crash-lands back to regular season form, and we win by a lot. Otherwise, it will be closer, but we still grind past them with our depth.

And again, our record is 36-1. I don't care what conference we play in, that is not an easy task. Every conference team we play sees us as their own personal Duke, Kansas, North Carolina, or Kentucky - one win against us is all it takes to validate their entire season. Reading some BYU blogs, it is painfully apparent that they're perfectly content with their abysmal season, simply because they beat us at The Kennel and ruined our chance at a perfect season. If we win it all, they get to be remembered as the one team that has slain the giant. Can you show me another "weak" conference in America with a team who has had a one or two loss season in recent history? Wichita State did it, and they damn-near/should have won the entire tournament. If it was as easy as everyone seems to think, it would be happening a lot more often. This team is special, and you can't deny that. Which brings me to my last point.

I'm hearing a lot of talk about SC being a team of "destiny." As far as I'm concerned Gonzaga is THE team of destiny in this year's tournament. Too many Gonzaga teams have been seconds away from making deeper runs into the tournament; a final four should have happened sooner, and I'm so glad that they finally broke through. But this is much more than a final four team. It is OUR destiny to win this entire thing. Maybe it doesn't happen; maybe we get upset by SC, or NC, or Oregon. But, I like our chances more than anyone else left in this tournament to win it all.

Best of luck in the game SC. Obviously, it is my opinion that they will need it :) But, they call it March "Madness" for a reason! I can't wait for the game.

maynard g krebs
03-29-2017, 10:22 PM
Has anyone actually clicked on this "cockytalk"? Sounds vaguely like a gay porn site. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

northsidezagfan
03-30-2017, 04:59 AM
Has anyone actually clicked on this "cockytalk"? Sounds vaguely like a gay porn site. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I have, pretty much once big circle jerk about their defense, so I guess you aren't too far off?

northsidezagfan
03-30-2017, 05:00 AM
ZagsToRiches that's a hell of a first post! Go Zags!

TexasZagFan
03-30-2017, 05:07 AM
ZagsToRiches that's a hell of a first post! Go Zags!

Agreed, though we really go with an 8 man rotation, not nine. Rui was brought in against WVU because of foul trouble to our bigs. Other than that, the post is "aces" (Oceans 13 reference).

Zag_Dad
03-30-2017, 07:42 AM
Sorry my bad. You gave up 79 and 75 points to BYU.

We all know our basketball history. No one has to tell us. And while you hate being looked down upon as a school since you're not P5, don't you think your success the last few years has made a few of you start looking down on us? We've never been as successful as the Zags but doesn't make us any less worthy of being in the Final 4. Nor does it guarantee you will beat us, we have no shot, our defense can't stop your offense, etc and all the other claims some on here are making.

I've never dismissed the Zags success or accomplishments. But it seems like some of you don't want to take what we've accomplished seriously. Think about that. Your guys more than anyone should know how that feels.

Jeremy ... your posts are exhausting. You frequently remind everyone that you picked GU in your bracket and that you are on the west coast and watch a lot of GU games then go on to nit pick about how GU sucks (our numbers are inflated, we don't play anyone, we've never seen a defense like SC) all the while claiming that you think we're great. It's soooo passive aggressive. I would respect you more if you just came out and said you believe your team is better and that you believe they will win. Instead you carry on about how GU fans don't respect SC and are blind to how GREAT they really are. You bait people into defending GU then use that as evidence how we don't recognize how good SC is. C'mon man... man up. Pick a side.

As for me, there is no equivocation. I believe Gonzaga is the better team. I believe SC defense is tough but not as good as Gonzaga's. I believe ANY team that makes the Final Four is playing exceptional basketball and one of the best teams in the country.

I BELIEVE GONZAGA WILL WIN

team6
03-30-2017, 09:27 AM
Jeremy ... your posts are exhausting. You frequently remind everyone that you picked GU in your bracket and that you are on the west coast and watch a lot of GU games then go on to nit pick about how GU sucks (our numbers are inflated, we don't play anyone, we've never seen a defense like SC) all the while claiming that you think we're great. It's soooo passive aggressive. I would respect you more if you just came out and said you believe your team is better and that you believe they will win. Instead you carry on about how GU fans don't respect SC and are blind to how GREAT they really are. You bait people into defending GU then use that as evidence how we don't recognize how good SC is. C'mon man... man up. Pick a side.

As for me, there is no equivocation. I believe Gonzaga is the better team. I believe SC defense is tough but not as good as Gonzaga's. I believe ANY team that makes the Final Four is playing exceptional basketball and one of the best teams in the country.

I BELIEVE GONZAGA WILL WIN

I agree, I don't mind some fan/alum from another school giving there opinion. But gosh this Jeremy guy needs to go away, he gets offended if anyone says sc doesn't have the best defense in the history of everything, and that we have to take them seriously because we play in the wcc and we padded our defense there. It's tiring and annoying. Dude you're on the gonzaga fan board not a sc fan board, go away.

TexasZagFan
03-30-2017, 09:38 AM
I agree, I don't mind some fan/alum from another school giving there opinion. But gosh this Jeremy guy needs to go away, he gets offended if anyone says sc doesn't have the best defense in the history of everything, and that we have to take them seriously because we play in the wcc and we padded our defense there. It's tiring and annoying. Dude you're on the gonzaga fan board not a sc fan board, go away.

Jeremy's cracking me up. He passes off his remarks on "cockytalk" as an inside joke, a "joke" I found as humorous as the Xavier coach joking about the monkey.

He's already had one thread closed, perhaps he's trying for a double. On many other boards, he would've been escorted off long ago. Zags board is exceptional, in that regard.

bartruff1
03-30-2017, 09:39 AM
You are not required to read anyone's posts.....if you find him annoying, don't read his posts...pretty simple..

mgadfly
03-30-2017, 09:39 AM
Jeremy's cracking me up. He passes off his remarks on "cockytalk" as an inside joke, a "joke" I found as humorous as the Xavier coach joking about the monkey.

He's already had one thread closed, perhaps he's trying for a double. On many other boards, he would've been escorted off long ago. Zags board is exceptional, in that regard.

He posted over there that he is going to try to layoff a little now so that he doesn't get banned, just in case USC wins Saturday. So, he is a troll with a plan at least.

team6
03-30-2017, 09:45 AM
You are not required to read anyone's posts.....if you find him annoying, don't read his posts...pretty simple..

You're right, and I agree with you. But he did post this on cocky talk

"I'll cool off a bit on their board soon. If we win, want to make sure I'm not banned."

He just wants to cause trouble, that's literally his only desire. Don't get why he should be allowed to post.

team6
03-30-2017, 09:48 AM
He posted over there that he is going to try to layoff a little now so that he doesn't get banned, just in case USC wins Saturday. So, he is a troll with a plan at least.
+1
Beat me too it.

katman50
03-30-2017, 09:49 AM
You are not required to read anyone's posts.....if you find him annoying, don't read his posts...pretty simple..

I rather enjoy Jeremy coming over here and posting his thoughts about the game. Sure, he is a homer, who is defending his team (as are we). Don't find his analysis or comments over the top. Nothing better than good natured smack talk.

former1dog
03-30-2017, 09:51 AM
I rather enjoy Jeremy coming over here and posting his thoughts about the game. Sure, he is a homer, who is defending his team (as are we). Don't find his analysis or comments over the top. Nothing better than good natured smack talk.

Agreed. Not sure what we are supposed to expect from an opposing teams fans.

I haven't read a lot of his posts, but none of it seems abusive or out of line. Sure, it might be passive aggressive, but so what.

bartruff1
03-30-2017, 10:14 AM
The idea of banning someone for posting a opinion you don't share is nonsense...

Zag_Dad
03-30-2017, 10:35 AM
I rather enjoy Jeremy coming over here and posting his thoughts about the game. Sure, he is a homer, who is defending his team (as are we). Don't find his analysis or comments over the top. Nothing better than good natured smack talk.

I have no issue with fans from opposing teams coming here to weigh in and banter. I just tire of his passive aggressive approach. He constantly wants to bait fans then act like any response is "ignorant" or out of line (because, after all, he picked GU in his bracket and has seen more GU games than anyone on this board has seen).

True, I don't have to read his posts but he is one of the more prolific posters on this site in the past few days. It would be difficult to read a thread without coming across his comments.

Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting we ban the guy. I would just prefer he quit with the BS passive aggressive stuff. Step up and tell everyone that you believe your team will win. I respect that. He wants it both ways... if GU wins, he will say "see, I knew they would win, I picked them to win." If SC wins... "see, I told you that you GU fans were underestimating SC and had no idea how good our defense is."

kitzbuel
03-30-2017, 10:46 AM
You're right, and I agree with you. But he did post this on cocky talk

"I'll cool off a bit on their board soon. If we win, want to make sure I'm not banned."

He just wants to cause trouble, that's literally his only desire. Don't get why he should be allowed to post.
I would hope that he aggressively represent his team. He is a fan. I don't have problems with anything he says. He is of course unfortunate and misguided in his choice to not root for the Zags.

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gueastcoast
03-30-2017, 10:56 AM
Just watch out for when he starts talking about "my buddy" whose family is well-connected in Spokane.

Zagdawg
03-30-2017, 10:58 AM
Not him again.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJDg2g1COyc

team6
03-30-2017, 11:35 AM
I would hope that he aggressively represent his team. He is a fan. I don't have problems with anything he says. He is of course unfortunate and misguided in his choice to not root for the Zags.

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You're right, I did overact to it all. I want Saturday to get here already!

former1dog
03-30-2017, 11:38 AM
He is of course unfortunate and misguided in his choice to not root for the Zags.



LOL

TexasZagFan
03-30-2017, 12:10 PM
Just watch out for when he starts talking about "my buddy" whose family is well-connected in Spokane.

Sure has been quiet on the "Mark Few to the NBA" front lately...:drool:

DixieZag
03-30-2017, 01:33 PM
I rather enjoy Jeremy coming over here and posting his thoughts about the game. Sure, he is a homer, who is defending his team (as are we). Don't find his analysis or comments over the top. Nothing better than good natured smack talk.

Agree.

I think it's been good.

GrizZAG
03-30-2017, 01:41 PM
Wow nice post Zags to Riches. Sums up the whole shebang pretty well IMO. Good job!

RenoZag
03-30-2017, 02:09 PM
He posted over there that he is going to try to layoff a little now so that he doesn't get banned, just in case USC wins Saturday. So, he is a troll with a plan at least.

If SC wins Saturday and he insists on posting here, he'll be on a very short leash.

Zag_Dad
03-30-2017, 02:13 PM
If SC wins Saturday and he insists on posting here, he'll be on a very short leash.

No matter the outcome, he will post here with "I told you so"

RenoZag
03-30-2017, 02:14 PM
No matter the outcome, he will post here with "I told you so"


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Only once. . .

BlufftonGamecock
03-30-2017, 02:56 PM
OK, I would like to start by saying that not all Gamecock fans are stupid rednecks. I have no idea why some people get there kicks by talking trash on an opponents message board. You guys seem to be a very sensible fan base unlike the Clemson fans we are used to dealing with (those people make Jeremy look like a saint). Anyways looking forward to a great game against ya'll. I think our defense will keep us in the game but our two bigs need to stay out of foul trouble if we are going to have a chance.

former1dog
03-30-2017, 03:06 PM
our two bigs need to stay out of foul trouble if we are going to have a chance.

I think this is an excellent point.

Like most teams that play Gonzaga, USC will have to pick its poison. Pack it inside and hope the Zags shoot like they did in the first half versus South Dakota, or play it straight up and have Karnowski shooting 60% plus for two's or playing point-center, getting hockey assists.

When the big guys gets tired, in comes Collins... Also shooting over 60% and scoring double figures a game despite only playing an average of 17 minutes a game.

Then there is Tillie, who I think is a great weapon against zone defenses. Great feel for the game, he's a reliable shooter and he's 6'10" and can jump out of the gym. Few likes to bring him in, plant him at the free throw line and let him go to work against zones.

caduceus
03-30-2017, 03:12 PM
Fun fact: Silva is #1 in the nation in personal fouls committed (https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/player/chris-silva/stats). He has fouled out 10 times this season, and earned four fouls in another 16 games.

MTZag03
03-30-2017, 03:13 PM
I enjoyed Jeremy's posts at first. But yeah it did start to wear. The whole not understanding Kenpom adjusting for SoS just devolved into far too many posts. At this point, both teams are in the FF. Neither team's fans should feel dissed. I think USC falls down to earth on Saturday but there's no shame if the Zags are sent home. Saturday can't get here fast enough.

BlufftonGamecock
03-30-2017, 03:15 PM
The one thing that has impressed me has been our second half adjustments. We were down by 7 against both Duke and Florida and made the right adjustments to control the second half for convincing wins. I also think we will be the best defense you will have faced this year and visa versa.

former1dog
03-30-2017, 03:22 PM
The one thing that has impressed me has been our second half adjustments. We were down by 7 against both Duke and Florida and made the right adjustments to control the second half for convincing wins. I also think we will be the best defense you will have faced this year and visa versa.


Agreed on all points. I think the counter thought to your point is that Xavier was riding a similar wave, albeit with more offense in their wave of success and Gonzaga was ready.

The major difference is that USC has had the full week to prepare for Gonzaga, where Xavier did not have that advantage.

DixieZag
03-30-2017, 03:57 PM
Saturday can't get here fast enough.

I always thought the longest period of time was that between the U.S. Open golf tournament and the first college football game, I am now learning that there is a longer period, that being the week between winning the E8 and the first game in a Final Four.

Dunk Master
03-30-2017, 03:58 PM
I don't look down on SC at all Frank Martin is a helluva coach but this is Gonzaga's year and Mark Few will not be denied. I like the Zags 71-58 in a game in which they lead the entire way. Plus I heard one of their players is really sick in Phoenix so they might be a little undermanned and out matched.

SWZag
04-03-2017, 06:59 AM
I'm sure there's more...

Scout (http://www.scout.com/college/north-carolina/forums/1410-unc-basketball)

Tar Heel Illustrated - Four Corners (https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/forums/four-corners.22/)

Tar Heel Illustrated - Radar (https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/forums/tar-heel-radar.24/)