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IdahoTJR
02-25-2017, 07:07 AM
Does Coach Few start Rem tonight for his last game in the Kennel?

VinnyZag
02-25-2017, 07:30 AM
I sure hope so.

willandi
02-25-2017, 07:37 AM
I would expect it. I hope so too!

Hoopaholic
02-25-2017, 07:53 AM
If we truly believe in family, integrity, rewarding hard work and providing recognition for those who stay the long haul with a program I would expect him to get his recognition moment tonight

5 years of steadfast investment in the program should get the bright lights of recognition

willandi
02-25-2017, 08:10 AM
I think he starts instead of Perkins. It can't be Shem or Mathews, I don't think it will be J3 or NGW...so process of elimination.

Zagceo
02-25-2017, 08:13 AM
My guess.......he gets put in with the first bench subs with less than 5:00 to play.

gonzagafan62
02-25-2017, 08:25 AM
Yes he starts. Over Perkins

cggonzaga
02-25-2017, 08:41 AM
I wouldn't with a perfect season on the line. I don't think Rem would want to either. If we build up big lead then I give him all the time he wants.

whatazag
02-25-2017, 09:07 AM
Whether he starts or not, hope he gets a shot or two off. No field goals on the year.

Zagger
02-25-2017, 09:11 AM
I hope Rem starts but I'm sure he'll be on the court enough to get some points - even if hoisted up by Karnowski (is that an assist?).

rennis
02-25-2017, 09:24 AM
I wouldn't with a perfect season on the line. I don't think Rem would want to either. If we build up big lead then I give him all the time he wants.

I feel the same

ZAG 4 LIFE
02-25-2017, 09:34 AM
100% he starts... the kid was MVP of his High School
League And has 5 years in the program... he's not a stiff.

thespywhozaggedme
02-25-2017, 09:39 AM
Is it not a tradition that all seniors start on senior night? If so, then I don't understand the discussion.

Ekrub
02-25-2017, 09:54 AM
Is it not a tradition that all seniors start on senior night? If so, then I don't understand the discussion.

When we used to play a cupcake for the last game, yeah. Byu is a good team, don't screw around.

thespywhozaggedme
02-25-2017, 09:55 AM
When we used to play a cupcake for the last game, yeah. Byu is a good team, don't screw around.

No they're not. Plus, either all seniors are appreciated or the rule is conditional. On a side note, isn't Dustin a senior also?

BBzag
02-25-2017, 09:59 AM
No they're not. Plus, either all seniors are appreciated or the rule is conditional. On a side note, isn't Dustin a senior also?

Listed as redshirt junior.

hooter73
02-25-2017, 10:14 AM
No. Not a cupcake game like days of old.

Hoopaholic
02-25-2017, 10:20 AM
I wouldn't with a perfect season on the line. I don't think Rem would want to either. If we build up big lead then I give him all the time he wants.

If. Three minutes of play is going to keep us from winning then we would not deserve to win

If a single player is going to have such an insurmountable obstacle in a team game we don't deserve to win

If we are willing to set aside a players 5 year dedication for a win that will not impact the rest of the season our program is built on faulty values

NumberCruncher
02-25-2017, 10:24 AM
Start him. Look for Shem to kick it out to him. If it goes bad, have him foul to stop the clock.

gonzagafan62
02-25-2017, 10:40 AM
SSF is saying rem could play till first official TV timeout. I honk that sounds about right. We willl see

VaBeachZAG
02-25-2017, 10:43 AM
If. Three minutes of play is going to keep us from winning then we would not deserve to win

If a single player is going to have such an insurmountable obstacle in a team game we don't deserve to win

If we are willing to set aside a players 5 year dedication for a win that will not impact the rest of the season our program is built on faulty values

So totally agree with starting Rem. I am basically neutral on the guy but completely respect his long term dedication to the program. Just start him; if things start going bad in the first 30 seconds of the game he can always be pulled. Only meaningful cost would be a lost time out or early foul to stop the clock.

ZagsObserver
02-25-2017, 10:47 AM
Just about no chance of it. Not against BYU.

cggonzaga
02-25-2017, 10:52 AM
If. Three minutes of play is going to keep us from winning then we would not deserve to win

If a single player is going to have such an insurmountable obstacle in a team game we don't deserve to win

If we are willing to set aside a players 5 year dedication for a win that will not impact the rest of the season our program is built on faulty values

Do you risk an historic season that the whole team worked for so a kid that never plays gets 3 minutes? You may not think that could impact a game but it certainly could.

My guess is he starts though.

Hoopaholic
02-25-2017, 10:52 AM
Just about no chance of it. Not against BYU.

Why

Hoopaholic
02-25-2017, 10:54 AM
Do you risk an historic season that the whole team worked for so a kid that never plays gets 3 minutes? You may not think that could impact a game but it certainly could.

My guess is he starts though.

I can't fathom how the first three minutes could lead to a collapse the rest of the 37 minutes unless one thinks this team is on par skill wise with BYU. And I dont

Hoopaholic
02-25-2017, 10:55 AM
Do you risk an historic season that the whole team worked for so a kid that never plays gets 3 minutes? You may not think that could impact a game but it certainly could.

My guess is he starts though.

I suspect the vast majority of his teammates would support starting and getting a small recognition for his dedication to the team over the last 5 years

gonzagafan62
02-25-2017, 10:56 AM
For the record we are favored by 20.5 lol

cggonzaga
02-25-2017, 11:34 AM
I can't fathom how the first three minutes could lead to a collapse the rest of the 37 minutes unless one thinks this team is on par skill wise with BYU. And I dont

Nor do I. I also don't believe we're unbeatable. If BYU put together a complete game and played their best game of the year, they could certainly give us a game.

gonzagafan62
02-25-2017, 11:35 AM
Nor do I. I also don't believe we're unbeatable. If BYU put together a complete game and played their best game of the year, they could certainly give us a game.

I agree ... we haven't beaten BYU in Spokane since 2014

willandi
02-25-2017, 11:39 AM
...and yet, we win the tip, swing it around to Rem, he shoots and gives a foul to the player coming up the floor. 30 sec, no FT's and he started as a senior. To me, it's a no brainer. To not start him, when all the seniors start, is an insult.

cggonzaga
02-25-2017, 11:43 AM
...and yet, we win the tip, swing it around to Rem, he shoots and gives a foul to the player coming up the floor. 30 sec, no FT's and he started as a senior. To me, it's a no brainer. To not start him, when all the seniors start, is an insult.

Playing 30 seconds and committing a foul isn't an insult just so he can say he started a game?

MontanaZag
02-25-2017, 12:19 PM
...and yet, we win the tip, swing it around to Rem, he shoots and gives a foul to the player coming up the floor. 30 sec, no FT's and he started as a senior. To me, it's a no brainer. To not start him, when all the seniors start, is an insult.

Couldn't agree more, sneaky important to the run of great chemistry the program has enjoyed. Great kid, great Gonzaga family!

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Hoopaholic
02-25-2017, 12:25 PM
Playing 30 seconds and committing a foul isn't an insult just so he can say he started a game?

Something tells me 25 years from now if the team ends up running the table it will mean something to him....a cherry on top of the ice cream that embodies his work ethic and dedication over a five year period

jake
02-25-2017, 12:31 PM
One of our 5 regular starters could play poorly the first 3 minutes too. I say start him, but no need to feed him the ball for 3s like you might at the end of a blowout. I think you're looking at a minuscule chance that Rem getting a couple of minutes influences the end of the game outcome. If you're super worried, take BYU +12.5 in the first half.

BBzag
02-25-2017, 01:16 PM
...and yet, we win the tip, swing it around to Rem, he shoots and gives a foul to the player coming up the floor. 30 sec, no FT's and he started as a senior. To me, it's a no brainer. To not start him, when all the seniors start, is an insult.

We probably wouldn't get to see it on TV anyway, UCLA/Arizona likely will run over their allotted two hours.

SWZag
02-25-2017, 01:16 PM
I just wonder if Bill can make it. That's Rem's dad who still coaches Mark Morris High. They play at Central against Selah at 4:00p.

thespywhozaggedme
02-25-2017, 01:40 PM
Do you risk an historic season that the whole team worked for so a kid that never plays gets 3 minutes? You may not think that could impact a game but it certainly could.

My guess is he starts though.

Nonsense. It's not like you or I are going out there, he's on a D1 team, and walk on or not, he'll be fine for three minutes. You're overreacting.

Mantua
02-25-2017, 01:57 PM
Rem should start.

ZagsObserver
02-25-2017, 02:14 PM
...and yet, we win the tip, swing it around to Rem, he shoots and gives a foul to the player coming up the floor. 30 sec, no FT's and he started as a senior. To me, it's a no brainer. To not start him, when all the seniors start, is an insult.

Short memories. I can't remember who exactly, but Few has not started seniors before on senior night. This would not be unprecedented.

BBzag
02-25-2017, 02:17 PM
Short memories. I can't remember who exactly, but Few has not started seniors before on senior night. This would not be unprecedented.

Brian Baskhar in 2014, for one.

willandi
02-25-2017, 02:25 PM
I bet we found out Few's intentions in less than four hours!

Either way I'm good. Just beat BYU!

ZaGranny
02-25-2017, 02:26 PM
Brian Baskhar in 2014, for one.

If I remember correctly, (and I might not) Brian was offered the chance to start, but declined it.

ZaGranny

MickMick
02-25-2017, 02:33 PM
deleted. wrong thread

team6
02-25-2017, 02:35 PM
I think and hope he stars and gets a few minutes. I hope he gets a shot up too.

maynard g krebs
02-25-2017, 04:16 PM
Schools in power 5 leagues start seniors all the time. This shouldn't even be a question. Play him till the first time out unless things start going bad; pull him if necessary sooner, but I doubt it will be. Doing the right thing always comes first.

ZagsObserver
02-25-2017, 05:25 PM
Brian Baskhar in 2014, for one.

Not who I was thinking of. It's happened several times.

BBzag
02-25-2017, 05:27 PM
Not who I was thinking of. It's happened several times.

I checked back to 2009 and Bhaskar was the only one I could find.

caduceus
02-25-2017, 06:10 PM
Starting lineup:

f 03 WILLIAMS, Johnathan JR
g 04 MATHEWS, Jordan SR
g 05 WILLIAMS-GOSS, Nigel JR
g 15 BAKAMUS, Rem SR
c 24 KARNOWSKI, Przemek SR

spike_jr
02-25-2017, 06:12 PM
15 years n the starting line up! Good for him and the team!!

thespywhozaggedme
02-25-2017, 06:24 PM
Starting lineup:

f 03 WILLIAMS, Johnathan JR
g 04 MATHEWS, Jordan SR
g 05 WILLIAMS-GOSS, Nigel JR
g 15 BAKAMUS, Rem SR
c 24 KARNOWSKI, Przemek SR

Excellent!

gonzagafan62
02-25-2017, 06:29 PM
Rem left with a 7-0 lead.

thespywhozaggedme
02-25-2017, 06:31 PM
Do you risk an historic season that the whole team worked for so a kid that never plays gets 3 minutes? You may not think that could impact a game but it certainly could.

My guess is he starts though.
We took a seven to nothing lead with Rem starting. Feel better now?

Zagceo
02-25-2017, 06:34 PM
Few just paid big props to the Remister....good on you Coach Few!

Hoopaholic
02-25-2017, 07:23 PM
Thank you Coach Few rewarding hard work and dedication to the program

ProVeeZag
02-25-2017, 09:23 PM
We took a seven to nothing lead with Rem starting. Feel better now?

Rem leaves the floor and we get outscored 79 to 64 over the remainder of the game. A cynic might say he should have stayed in much longer.

cggonzaga
02-25-2017, 09:36 PM
We took a seven to nothing lead with Rem starting. Feel better now?

I wasn't going to comment on this but since you want to be a smart guy about it...

First, in no way am I blaming the loss on starting Rem. My whole point however was that you mess with karma, aura, whatever you want to call it when you do something like that. The first 5 minutes were great. The last 35, not so much.

Hoopaholic
02-25-2017, 09:58 PM
I wasn't going to comment on this but since you want to be a smart guy about it...

First, in no way am I blaming the loss on starting Rem. My whole point however was that you mess with karma, aura, whatever you want to call it when you do something like that. The first 5 minutes were great. The last 35, not so much.

Can we be factual at least. With 9 minutes go in first half we were up by 12. So the first 11 minutes we played great and if you think karma waits for second half so be it

cggonzaga
02-25-2017, 10:13 PM
If you want to be factual hoop, we were up 16 after 5 minutes. Meaning we were outscored by 4 over the next 6 minutes let alone the rest of the game.