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OZZY
07-17-2016, 07:41 PM
As most would know during NBA Summer league (where he was starting point guard for the Hawks entry, and playing well) it was announced that Kevin had signed on with Zalgiris in the Lithuanian LKL. A high level team for decades(Domas' dad played for them in the 80s) many on this board believe this is the next step for KP in his quest for the NBA.

Along with the Domestic competition (which they have won 6 years in arrow) Zalgiris also participates in the best basketball competition on the planet not named the NBA, The EuroLeague. This year restricted to 16 teams playing a 30 game regular season schedule....

Given the continuing interest in Kevin by Zag fans, I thought that there should be a separate thread for his time there.

Here are a couple of English language sites that will provide information on the team and its EuroLeague season

http://zalgiris.lt/en/basketball/

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteam?clubcode=ZAL

As Jstock12 is over the moon that KP will be playing in his home country I am sure we will also get expert (well, perhaps a bit biased) first-hand commentary on how he is playing.

The young guard group in particular should prove particularly interesting to follow....

Feel free to post any scores, articles, photos and videos on this thread.

OZZY
07-17-2016, 07:51 PM
Was reading the EuroLeague site and noticed that a very promising young German (mentioned a few times on the GU boards) Isaiah Hartenstein is also part of the Zalgiris system and will most likely play this year with Kevin.

Hartenstien's Father played for Oregon with Luke Ridenour. Isaiah had looked at GU and had said that of all the College teams (he decided to go down the professional route) the Zags played closest to what he liked.

Mojo13
07-18-2016, 10:36 AM
I think this is a great move for KP.
I believe he is slated as the top PG on Zalgiris...I don't think much of their other PGs, and that was an area they struggled with last season. Much better choice than Panthiakos in Greece (who KP was also offered by) as I think he would have been the 3rd PG after Nick Calthas and Mike James..

He is going to get major minutes at Zalgiris and can learn from one of the all time greats as no other than legendary Sarunas Jasikevicius is the coach.


Also a better choice than being the 4th PG and 15th man for Atlanta going up and down to the D-league, which is what he would have been looking at if he stuck with ATL.

Mojo13
09-15-2016, 08:38 AM
Here is a run down on the Zalgiris roster with some attention on Pangos.
http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/79nsvus6mx57ygyp/roster-rundown-zalgiris-kaunas

He has already had a couple good games in their pre-season so far.

ZagNative
09-16-2016, 10:12 AM
Thanks, Mojo! Appreciate the heads up!

OZZY
09-25-2016, 05:51 PM
The Lithuanian to league (LKL) kicked off last weekend with Zalgiris playing it's fist two league games.

Looking at the first one it appears that perhaps Kevin might have been injured as he only played 11 minutes with 2 assist and a steel and missing his only shot. The team went down to Eurocup team Lietkabelis 90-86.

In the second game on Sunday Kevin exploded for 22 points, 3 assists and a steal to lead them in an emphatic win over Juventus 90-70.

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Lithuania/2016/0924_183_9212.asp

With so many new players and new coaches it may take some time for the team to gel and sort out combinations, it looks like Leo Westermann and KP didn't play that much together, but from a rankings perspective they where the two best Zalgiris players.

The first Euroleague game is roughly in two weeks, Zalgiris will have 3 more league games before meeting Panathinaikos in Athens.

Once the next three league games are completed (two against strong Lithuanian teams Siauliai and Lietuvos rytas) it will get hectic as they will be playing both LKL and an additional 7 games per month in the EuroLeague.

From what I have seen in the past, The EuroLeague starters get limited minutes in most of the LKL games.

Mojo13
09-26-2016, 10:30 AM
The Lithuanian to league (LKL) kicked off last weekend with Zalgiris playing it's fist two league games.

Looking at the first one it appears that perhaps Kevin might have been injured as he only played 11 minutes with 2 assist and a steel and missing his only shot. The team went down to Eurocup team Lietkabelis 90-86.

In the second game on Sunday Kevin exploded for 22 points, 3 assists and a steal to lead them in an emphatic win over Juventus 90-70.

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Lithuania/2016/0924_183_9212.asp

With so many new players and new coaches it may take some time for the team to gel and sort out combinations, it looks like Leo Westermann and KP didn't play that much together, but from a rankings perspective they where the two best Zalgiris players.

The first Euroleague game is roughly in two weeks, Zalgiris will have 3 more league games before meeting Panathinaikos in Athens.

Once the next three league games are completed (two against strong Lithuanian teams Siauliai and Lietuvos rytas) it will get hectic as they will be playing both LKL and an additional 7 games per month in the EuroLeague.

From what I have seen in the past, The EuroLeague starters get limited minutes in most of the LKL games.

I have heard that allot too. There seems to be so much disparity in the domestic leagues that the better teams will outright sit their star players against crappy domestic league teams to rest them or to get younger guys developmental time.

I have also heard Europe can be very different in "starter" vs "bench" philosophy and that the best players can often come off the bench to to balance the team better or take advantage of match ups. European teams can be much more balanced in that manner. You need to look at minutes played more than who starts or not.

OZZY
10-09-2016, 10:29 PM
6 games in, Kevin has had a reasonable lead up to his first EuroLeague game.

Zalgiris played the other Lithuanian powerhouse (and Eurocup team) Lietuvos Rita's at home on the weekend and won 74-66 paced by Kevin's 16 points (in 18 minutes).

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Lithuania/2016/1008_683_183.asp

Kevin shares the team lead in scoring (10.2 in 18 mpg) and is shooting 38% from the 3. His apg (2.5) and assist/TO rate (1.5) are a bit lower than typical KP numbers so it will be interesting to see how he fares against EuroLeague teams.

Westermann and Pangos are finding their feet with the team and having 6 (they are 5-1) games under their belt in the domestic competition should really prove beneficial entering the hectic EuroLeague period.

October 14th is the teams first EuroLeague game for 2016/2017 against Panathinaikos.

Panathinaikos is a step up and features 8 players with US nationality including the Calathes brothers and K.C. Rivers. The experienced Greek centres Fotsis and Bourousis are synonymous with hard-nosed basketball and it will be interesting to see if Kevin will drive to the basket or play more of a distributor / shooting guard when he is out there.

6'6" starting PG Nick Calathes has NBA experience and might be a better match up for Westermann when he is on the floor. As Panathinaikos back up PG Mike James is out for 2 months due to injury, KP might matchup better with their less experienced guards.

The only real advantage they have right now is the 6 games they have played while their opponents have played only once in their domestic competition.

ZagNative
10-09-2016, 11:37 PM
Ozzy, thank you so much for the excellent heads up!

Mojo13
10-12-2016, 01:26 PM
As mentioned the playing time is suspect early on as the Euro League teams will sit their better players or play them limited minutes against the bad domestic league teams (sortof like preseason NBA games). Pangos should be judged on his games against top competition in the EL or the domestic league best teams like Lietuvos Rita. He played really well in that game with heavy praise from his coach.


Panathinaikos will likely smoke Zalgiris but it will be an excellent test for KP. Zalgiris is one of the bottom feeders of the EL. A likely bottom two team (of 16).

Mojo13
10-14-2016, 01:17 PM
As mentioned the playing time is suspect early on as the Euro League teams will sit their better players or play them limited minutes against the bad domestic league teams (sortof like preseason NBA games). Pangos should be judged on his games against top competition in the EL or the domestic league best teams like Lietuvos Rita. He played really well in that game with heavy praise from his coach.


Panathinaikos will likely smoke Zalgiris but it will be an excellent test for KP. Zalgiris is one of the bottom feeders of the EL. A likely bottom two team (of 16).

Not a good first EuroLeague game by KP. 3 points (1/7), 3 assists, 3 TOs in 18 minutes as a starter. Didn't watch the game but the the opposing guards seem to lead their team in scoring.

OZZY
10-14-2016, 04:51 PM
Both Kevin and Westermann struggled in the first EuroLeague game (away against Panathinaikos).

http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=7&seasoncode=E2016#!boxscore

Looks like Westermann started and was up against Nick Calathes.

KP hit only 1/5 from the deep and both guards had 3 TO. If it wasn't for Lekavicius the guards would been a complete flop.

A bit of work to do for Zalgiris coming up, it is not going to get any easier....

ZagNative
10-21-2016, 04:08 AM
Okay, I'm finally starting to get up to speed on what's up with Kevin and Zalgris. Bear with me while I collect my wits and please forgive any repetition of info you have posted above. (Ozzy and Mojo have to be two of the smartest basketball guys on guboards!)

Kevin's team plays its second Euroleague game today at 10:00 am PST, so I took the time to refresh my memory.

Euroleague: Zalgris plays in Euroleague, and game stats can be found here: http://www.euroleague.net/.


Zagris' team page on the Euroleague site is here: http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteam?clubcode=ZAL&seasoncode=E2016.

The team's Euroleague photo gallery can be found here: http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteam?clubcode=ZAL&seasoncode=E2016#!photos.

the team's Euroleague game higlight videos can be viewed here: http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteam?clubcode=ZAL&seasoncode=E2016#!videos

[Lithuanian Basketball League (LKL]: Zalgris plays in the Lithuanian Basketball League, whose site can be found here: http://www.lkl.lt/


The team's LKL schedule can be found here. http://www.lkl.lt/komanda/10923/#mbt:73-200$t&0=2

Kevin's profile page, including his stats, can be found here: http://www.lkl.lt/zaidejas/2405809/


As of today, before today's game, it looks like this:

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Zalgris Home Site: Pretty cool and user-friendly site: http://zalgiris.lt/

ZagNative
10-21-2016, 04:22 AM
Euroleague: http://www.euroleague.net/

LKL: http://www.lkl.lt/

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSt32ezPJgu2tyYRrt0vON_Gnnv2MktGehqdgjnGzxel_N-TqfCbii1NAIAY0rl7PO5gc8Pbr5rQQYtahbx5iuXaeGudIfU1G b7-PgM82hoY-sYuREF1reD9PCvOxu0YPt_kqf8P6WjMYaHQ68St2EqF3Y1LcuJ 2Yq4yiXiY2o9WjED1JNH5h5fhzdJQSIUBIjob2B9O-PdSmG7GGHW5QOm-Yu9-gXzWifYCNjdhR4Jx7A6bkR1JPk7h25LBzU-HTp5ZiJOiV6S8Y-PLI_50S18masgZpFe6wlLa6xi15M1NY_FmXQIl82XPrq81mz58 kEsKHq_-Dcbcitmpoq4uM0k4tar2zBd7qAcv5SR6RCEn0Ivg3cZeV2SKee k4UG6CmbVCpZd2xw2909_A-YrMp9np3AFhTai2dNvUOq6WnOmyrklYhsDLCO97dbJLq8jDJAC nd8FgZg2ibGPNlpm-EGB3odo9Wtg2mZW1o-yLWezPTvtCOS7pY5S7c9dvO2Qf0qqTX2cnNsS0Zyg_4sfeOpcO sgK0m-AuTFGuSU9olRASUja_Hed3h4p2LUK1OBbK_KulKkSZyMcCjG_z VcBHZ2p7AUZP7QFq4njgmyfdYqUkkgt1Lg=w460-h800-no

ZagNative
10-21-2016, 11:42 AM
Zalgris beats Baskonia Vitoria Gasteiz 78-73. Kevin had 6 points, 3 rebounds, an assist and a steal. Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=16&seasoncode=E2016)

Kevin is #3:

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/7coamrkpk8gbee7s/937feb75-0281-4437-b564-2f06b73a9baa/6af/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb16.jpg

OZZY
10-21-2016, 01:01 PM
Thanks ZN,

Great to get a win at home for the team.

Both Kevin and Leo started with Leo leading he team with 20 points, 4 reb, 4 assists and no turnovers, the guards are playing with control 10 assists to only 5 turnovers, the other two guards also made contributions with Lekavicius handing out 5 assists and Milaknis hitting three 3s..

They played against three players with NBA experience including former no 1 pick Bargnani. Bargnani Larkin and Shengelia all had good games but Zalgiris won on the boards, outrebounding Vitoria by 12.

Next up 4 games in one week including Euroleague veteran teams Fenerbahce and Maccabi Tel Aviv two days apart.

It would be nice to se KP get his 3 point mojo happening against them.

Jstock12
10-23-2016, 10:00 PM
When watching KP play in Euroleague it just seems like he's a bit out of sync, or maybe his confidence is a bit shaky on the big stage compared to our domestic league (LKL) where he looks really convincing against lesser talent. But in my opinion he definitely is good enough to be productive at Euroleague level. Those are just 2 games so they might have been a fluke/variance too. I thought that the Lithuanian basketnews.lt article was a bit harsh on Kevin calling him one of two foreign players that are a bit disappointing so far (the other one being Augusto Lima). Good thing that the coach Jasikevicius doesn't pay any attention to these articles and has a lot of faith/confidence in KP. After the game against Baskonia he said that 'Kevin is taking good shots and it's only a matter of time before they go in'.

Mojo13
10-24-2016, 08:16 AM
When watching KP play in Euroleague it just seems like he's a bit out of sync, or maybe his confidence is a bit shaky on the big stage compared to our domestic league (LKL) where he looks really convincing against lesser talent. But in my opinion he definitely is good enough to be productive at Euroleague level. Those are just 2 games so they might have been a fluke/variance too. I thought that the Lithuanian basketnews.lt article was a bit harsh on Kevin calling him one of two foreign players that are a bit disappointing so far (the other one being Augusto Lima). Good thing that the coach Jasikevicius doesn't pay any attention to these articles and has a lot of faith/confidence in KP. After the game against Baskonia he said that 'Kevin is taking good shots and it's only a matter of time before they go in'.

It is a fair critique though. KP is limited in his physical gifts with not being overly tall for his position and those notoriously short arms. It is a pretty big step up to EL and I have always wondered if he was going to struggle getting shots off against bigger, longer, more athletic guards. It may take a few games to adjust his mindset on offense for the EL games. He is in the top percentile for BBallIQ, so I figure it is a good bet he figures it out and we'll see meaningful improvement.

However - it does make me more skeptical he will ever land in the NBA for any meaningful time.

Jstock12
10-24-2016, 08:56 AM
It is a fair critique though. KP is limited in his physical gifts with not being overly tall for his position and those notoriously short arms. It is a pretty big step up to EL and I have always wondered if he was going to struggle getting shots off against bigger, longer, more athletic guards. It may take a few games to adjust his mindset on offense for the EL games. He is in the top percentile for BBallIQ, so I figure it is a good bet he figures it out and we'll see meaningful improvement.

However - it does make me more skeptical he will ever land in the NBA for any meaningful time.

One thing that makes me optimistic about KP's chances to do well at Euroleague level is his play in ACB, which is hands down the strongest domestic league in Europe. There's quite a few Euroleague caliber teams playing there and Kevin did pretty well against them last year.

OZZY
10-24-2016, 02:53 PM
It is a fair critique though. KP is limited in his physical gifts with not being overly tall for his position and those notoriously short arms. It is a pretty big step up to EL and I have always wondered if he was going to struggle getting shots off against bigger, longer, more athletic guards. It may take a few games to adjust his mindset on offense for the EL games. He is in the top percentile for BBallIQ, so I figure it is a good bet he figures it out and we'll see meaningful improvement.

However - it does make me more skeptical he will ever land in the NBA for any meaningful time.

I almost said in my post that I thought that ACB might be his peak and that EL was looking like a step to far (never mind the NBA), but I held off as I thought I would give him another 6 games in EL (this week is going to be tough) before I said anything.

As JStock12 (thanks for adding your insights BTW) has had a chance to see the games I take on board his views and hope that he is right about KP's acclimatisation to the EL.

And with KP, once those 3 pointers start hitting their mark his influence on a game goes up a couple of notches.

willandi
10-24-2016, 08:15 PM
It is a fair critique though. KP is limited in his physical gifts with not being overly tall for his position and those notoriously short arms. It is a pretty big step up to EL and I have always wondered if he was going to struggle getting shots off against bigger, longer, more athletic guards. It may take a few games to adjust his mindset on offense for the EL games. He is in the top percentile for BBallIQ, so I figure it is a good bet he figures it out and we'll see meaningful improvement.

However - it does make me more skeptical he will ever land in the NBA for any meaningful time.

Did you see the article I linked on the height of NBA players? The average PG is 6'1" KP fits right in!
http://guboards.spokesmanreview.com/showthread.php?57828-Height-of-players

Mojo13
10-25-2016, 09:43 AM
There is obviously more to it than height. Yes he is at about par for NBA point guards, but his wingspan and quickness is pretty deficient.

Some negative blurbs about his physical issues from Draft Express:

"His biggest challenge will be overcoming his below average physical profile. Though he has average size for a point at guard at 6'2 (with shoes) with a 182-pound frame, his sub-6'0 wingspan does him few favors. Likewise, his first step leaves quite a bit to be desired, and he lacks even average explosiveness, though he does show shifty quickness in half court settings."
"He also lacks a particularly quick first step and advanced ball handling, resulting in frequent struggles to get around quicker defenders on his way to the basket. When he is able to pick up speed and find his way into the lane, he ultimately struggles to finish at the rim, making just 42.3% of his overall attempts. His 44% 2P%, down from 48% as a sophomore, ranks him in the bottom half of point guard prospects in our database. He is actually a better finisher than one would expect due to his solid body control and a dependable floater, but he will likely continue to struggle both in the WCC and at the next level due to his physical limitations."

He has continued to struggle in the ACB and EL finishing at the rim.

It is hard to dispute any of this this. He however has many positives that make him an elite basketball player and one of the best point guards ever from Canada and currently one of the Top 75-100 or so point guards in the World.

willandi
10-25-2016, 08:56 PM
I don't dispute any of the comment about his shortcomings ( pun intended), just when the first comment is about his height, at 6'2", as being a drawback, felt I needed to refer all to the average height of NBA PG's

Mojo13
10-26-2016, 11:22 AM
Another subpar performance from KP in a EuroLeague game.
1/8 for 5 points, 2 rbds, 2 assists in 17.59 minutes, in a 71-58 loss to Fenerbache Istanbul.

ZagNative
10-27-2016, 05:01 PM
Nice video of Kevin published today:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLvUa0wXbMU

Jstock12
10-28-2016, 09:26 AM
1st quarter has just concluded in a game between Zalgiris and Maccabi Tel Aviv. KP started the game at PG but was quickly subbed out after missing a three and picking up 2 quick fouls :(

EDIT: Got subbed back in the 2nd quarter and less than a minute after that he picked up his third foul. :( Coach didn't sub him out this time though. Then Pangos got a super wide open three and the crowd was full of anticipation to cheer the made three pointer, but unfortunately it didn't get in... Missing wide open shots is not because of a more skilled competition. I'm getting convinced it has to be the mental side of things. I still believe he'll get his mojo back soon and help us out. It's only the 4th game into a 30-game regular season of this year's Euroleague.

EDIT 2: With the 3rd quarter coming to an end, Kevin knocks down 2 three-pointers! Leading Zalgiris' comeback.

EDIT 3: Game over. Zalgiris loses 74-87. Pangos finishes with 11 points (1/1 2PT, 3/5 3PT), 3 rebounds, 1 assist and 5 fouls in 13:49 minutes. Bummer about the fouls, he could have had a really great game if not for those. Maybe it would have even made a difference in deciding the victor.

ZagNative
10-28-2016, 12:35 PM
Thanks for the report, Jstock.

Jstock12
10-31-2016, 09:44 AM
Kevin with 5 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, 3 drawn fouls and a +/- of +24 in Zalgiris' win against Nevezis in the Lithuanian league.

OZZY
11-01-2016, 08:04 PM
Thanks Jstock your input is very much appreciated!

Jstock12
11-04-2016, 06:11 AM
Another Euroleague challenge for Kevin today. Zalgiris is playing against a Turkish powerhouse Darussafaka Istanbul coached by David Blatt. As far as the guards are concerned, Kevin will be facing off against Scottie Wilbekin (Florida), Brad Wanamaker (Pittsburgh) and veterans in Ender Arslan and Dairis Bertans.

Mojo13
11-04-2016, 06:51 PM
Another Euroleague challenge for Kevin today. Zalgiris is playing against a Turkish powerhouse Darussafaka Istanbul coached by David Blatt. As far as the guards are concerned, Kevin will be facing off against Scottie Wilbekin (Florida), Brad Wanamaker (Pittsburgh) and veterans in Ender Arslan and Dairis Bertans.

And KP responds with an absolute stinker. Zero point (0/3) 3 assists and 4 TOs in 12 minutes.
He is stinking up the Euroleague. And I hope he can turn it around. Not good so far.

ZagNative
11-04-2016, 06:58 PM
Worried about KP ....

Jstock12
11-05-2016, 08:22 AM
I watched the game, but couldn't bring myself to make a post yesterday. It was a pretty tough loss. Zalgiris was leading after the half, but got completely decimated in the 3rd quarter letting opponents score 35 points in those 10 minutes.

As for Kevin, I noticed he is having some trouble when facing early pressure / double teams when trying to dribble the ball over the halfcourt. Our 21-year old 3rd string PG Lekavicius is so far outplaying him in every Euroleague game, which is a little bit underwhelming. I'm hoping it's only an adjustment period for KP. Let's not forget that he might have had a stellar game against the Maccabi last week, if not for the early foul trouble.

ZagNative
11-05-2016, 12:03 PM
From Twitter:
Donatas Urbonas ‏@Urbodo

Big disappointment with Kevin Pangos and Augusto Lima so far. But Saras confirmed he don't consider releasing them: I'm not that type of guy

Jstock12
11-10-2016, 10:23 AM
Zalgiris-Barcelona game starts in approximately 20 minutes. Hoping for a breakout game from Kevin :)

Jstock12
11-10-2016, 10:58 AM
KP starting the game next to Westerman.

Jstock12
11-11-2016, 05:44 AM
Another close, tough loss in Euroleague for Zalgiris 86-92 against Barcelona. But they fought really well. Career game for our big man Brock Motum who had 26 points (11/12 FG, 4/5 3PT)... Center Augusto Lima with 7 points, 8 rebounds and 6 assists. Unfortunately, the starting backcourt of Westerman and Pangos had somewhat of a sub-par performance. KP with 9 points on 3/11 shooting, 3 assists and 2 rebounds in 21 minute of play. Westerman with 2 points (0/5 FG, 2/2 FT), 6 assists, 4 rebounds in 29 minutes... The backup Lekavicius continues to play pretty consistently - 9 points, 3 assists and 1 rebound in 17 minutes.

It sucks to be losing, but at least all of these games are close and well fought. No blowout losses, even against the powerhouses of European basketball. I guess we'll need to wait a bit longer for KP's breakout game in Euroleague. Next game is against Galatasaray Istanbul on November 16th. He'll be facing off against the 2013 NCAA champion Russ Smith (Louisville).

Zags_Fanatic
11-11-2016, 08:04 PM
Another close, tough loss in Euroleague for Zalgiris 86-92 against Barcelona. But they fought really well. Career game for our big man Brock Motum who had 26 points (11/12 FG, 4/5 3PT)... Center Augusto Lima with 7 points, 8 rebounds and 6 assists. Unfortunately, the starting backcourt of Westerman and Pangos had somewhat of a sub-par performance. KP with 9 points on 3/11 shooting, 3 assists and 2 rebounds in 21 minute of play. Westerman with 2 points (0/5 FG, 2/2 FT), 6 assists, 4 rebounds in 29 minutes... The backup Lekavicius continues to play pretty consistently - 9 points, 3 assists and 1 rebound in 17 minutes.

It sucks to be losing, but at least all of these games are close and well fought. No blowout losses, even against the powerhouses of European basketball. I guess we'll need to wait a bit longer for KP's breakout game in Euroleague. Next game is against Galatasaray Istanbul on November 16th. He'll be facing off against the 2013 NCAA champion Russ Smith (Louisville).

Thanks for the updates, Jstock! Sabonis looking damn good in the league! How is media coverage of his rookie season over there?

Jstock12
11-12-2016, 02:43 AM
Thanks for the updates, Jstock! Sabonis looking damn good in the league! How is media coverage of his rookie season over there?

Cheers! It's good, all of the news sites are following his each game :-) We have the same amount of Lithuanians in the NBA as Gonzaga has its alumni there - 3 (4 if you count unsigned Motiejunas). So it's not that hard to provide some coverage for all of them.

Jstock12
11-16-2016, 09:12 AM
A tremendous start of a Euroleague game for Kevin against Galatasaray Istanbul (Turkey). 7 points and an assist in 6 minutes of play. :) He hit two threes (although he stepped over the line on one of them) and a nice running floater. Perfect 3/3 from the field so far.

Austin Daye is playing too, but for the Turkish side.

EDIT: KP with 9 points (4/6 shooting), 5 assists and a rebound at the half. So far with the game-high performance index rating (+12).

OZZY
11-16-2016, 02:06 PM
A far better game for KP today, albeit against the now cellar dwelling Galatasaray.....

http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=56&seasoncode=E2016#!report

Hope that this is the start of some improved performances :)

Her is a video with a couple of KP highlights.

http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=56&seasoncode=E2016#!videos

KP sure looked happy after the layup at the end of the first half

Next up a daunting task up against a CSKA Moscow team that is probably as good as a few of the bottom NBA teams.

Jstock12
11-17-2016, 10:27 PM
Another Euroleague game today for Zalgiris. As OZZY mentioned, it's against CSKA Moscow, currently the best European team, as well as the reigning Euroleague champions. It's definitely going to be the biggest test for Kevin so far in his professional career. Nobody really expects Zalgiris to win as they are heavy underdogs, so that might relieve some of the pressure for KP, but it's still going to be a very tough challenge for him. Here's hoping he rides the momentum from the previous game and performs just as well!

Kevin's opponent:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_JHKmYaHFU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4pk90ChfHk

ZagNative
11-18-2016, 10:23 AM
Kevin improving still more in today's 86-95 loss to CSKA Moscow (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=61&seasoncode=E2016#!boxscore), with 14 points, a rebound, a steal, and six assists.

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Jstock12
11-18-2016, 12:49 PM
Pangos did great. He and our captain Jankunas had a great game. Zalgiris was leading for 3 whole quarters, unfortunately they couldn't stop CSKA from taking the lead in the 4th.

ZagNative
11-19-2016, 12:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRMTINZ2_-k

ZagNative
11-24-2016, 10:01 AM
Kevin can do no wrong today vs. Brose Bamberg in Euroleague, with 15 points, 3 assists, and a couple of rebounds in the first half!

Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=69&seasoncode=E2016#!boxscore)

(Elias injured and not playing for Brose Bamberg today.)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NXZLLeHaxbfa_TBYd3NDwW227sOiVceWSvE2EZ-UlYsp6LffQDxNw8vNW-jp9Bp_HglWP1QfcYo7MCM5QhlCkeo4A5ZU6LCb87yTeTN2qyUF QDFJwPZO6wZwNXOJ89WbwqtLTIn2F2foU1_7zgRUXnSGkgsL_M 3raQVauSczmVa0zS9RYxTj4TXNdE_W9Ef9F83_Fn2bFHIvkpot 0BUIdJLr0mU12eDcGSU_EcGtGBPxT6rkZcDG-3BC4XUXrrUMHGSYXmO3L3t6cAt7IOSM2R1NYH15uYZPMYUTZ0r VrNDFfiwMijJh5FteIf483b9ZOtkr8KBCd0lNcGj1sJ9Y0txub OZ8z-RKfuSJipbwgzSLrD_u8UIIVs60ZM_wrQBJ2QxopxWFc_Ov0Gj5 b2sxb4n68GYH6u3XYo_KsoYrk-X2d_63CKOUHsxy-dMcPT15PkkECB44OyyKwKcj8XqZTCLfe3Mk3f1ZwD4TESLkZ8v lAWrsz-yUw3F9HqnXa_kgyOaD0ZV_bH660pqUOCFUnjMpMfeEevCqDDJs h1032zZKjsllhzDLEU8CK0cN4A3747VdUqTKVb6VLGO4kYs6c-Sc14Y92nVnNFeuxgmEIqMvhTfYQ=w874-h698-no

ZagNative
11-24-2016, 10:54 AM
Zalgris wins it 86-72. Kevin ends with 19 points on 6-12 three-point shooting, with 6 assists and 3 rebounds.

Jstock12
11-24-2016, 06:09 PM
Damn, can't believe I overslept and missed this game. Hopefully I'll be able to find a recording of it somehow :/

EDIT: Nevermind, found it ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R252Qo8E0NA

Great job by KP!

His last three games:
9 points (1 three), 8 assists, 2 rebounds
14 points (2 threes), 6 assists, 1 rebound, 1 steal
19 points (6 threes), 6 assists, 3 rebounds

I think he's getting the hang of it ;)

OZZY
11-24-2016, 09:35 PM
Damn, can't believe I overslept and missed this game. Hopefully I'll be able to find a recording of it somehow :/

EDIT: Nevermind, found it ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R252Qo8E0NA

Great job by KP!

His last three games:
9 points (1 three), 8 assists, 2 rebounds
14 points (2 threes), 6 assists, 1 rebound, 1 steal
19 points (6 threes), 6 assists, 3 rebounds

I think he's getting the hang of it ;)


I agree, looks like he is working things and his teammates out.

That second of four 3s in a row was sick!

The rest of the season is going to be real interesting.

:)

Jstock12
11-25-2016, 01:51 AM
The rest of the season is going to be real interesting.

:)

Yup! ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDSt9UIIrTY&feature=youtu.be

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/19/aa/b7/19aab700ba87efab5366824fb5a64e17.png

ZagNative
11-25-2016, 02:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLIBcnlxAZk

OZZY
11-25-2016, 02:09 PM
Yup! ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDSt9UIIrTY&feature=youtu.be

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/19/aa/b7/19aab700ba87efab5366824fb5a64e17.png

Thanks!

ZagNative
11-27-2016, 08:09 AM
Terrific game today vs. Lietuvos rytas, with Kevin's team taking the win 84-68, Kevin with 22 points on 6-11 three-point shooting,

Box Score (http://www.lkl.lt/rungtynes-gyvai/2884219/)

ZagNative
11-27-2016, 08:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UBR0L5Tlc8

ZagNative
11-27-2016, 09:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qku1CUzIgbk

OZZY
11-27-2016, 01:22 PM
Once KP starts hitting 3 pointers (which he has been recently) Zalgiris becomes a different team.

His confidence appears to be on the up. Perhaps he is playing a nit more relaxed than a month ago,

Note his +/- for the game against Lietuvos rytas was +24, by far the most on the team.

ZagNative
12-08-2016, 06:35 AM
Kevin in an interview before today's noon Euroleague (http://www.euroleague.net/)game at Real Madrid. Man! It would be great to see him have a terrific game!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3enSCadjHg

Zalgris is #11 in the Euroleague standings to Real Madrid's #2. Looks like Kev will have his work cut out for him. Austin Daye and Elias Harris teams round out the bottom two spots in the standing.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/c7Jl2NqZz5jdwBR_RsJP70T0yfYtUt0sXR3sECrchEIajCk-7-pyqAbwXnOlsfm91NQhOSyu0G_Wyxxi2FETvG7lSvda3n9hW37e eGE3aVcTr-4qUF0WeFS8ZXyIhJ_fLquOqHIJKEv9S-eorjqe6xcF4sUEYsRpjRkI07OIToLzfi7QeBlxrb2RxEfLQKR1 2GOPSsEl81BNC90xF-My7oox76fj7rW1LVT1v68Nb7xHNQLBTdD5Mv06_tOC86Sbxj8p CcdbM4iwPfbL6mHsB9a61dT5L39gJ1kltMIXgdUv4PoRKJ5gZD wIuV_HFXkrNIBrLCxWdTFbqVUBOSjrHXePIaEo9OkLYIyagvTl bz7Bm4f7920ndol1DsiICt5TKrf1YTpAqL8ACl1hrWEkuQN8U9 VuoGLZctcHaottEQ_mJLW6aVtVAbVWYx3OydBqdrWs7lu5zEsY co5jJX8jseLN-Zxow5PPEXIyYCvsRB-0gR83uZCtEH5IGIUNaFYRiQ2JR4Mnb2PsBLGEGR388P14lgPWY cfHXvmpu3SuWFHYb83S1aOjfMVRtq1rsuG4M3c1wVE9Kl7zUsR RHAsRyIO7wtFajaS1CnhVa69vXZIAF3QqIAXWvA=w1047-h678-no

ZagNative
12-08-2016, 07:54 AM
Kevin's current stats page (http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=006433&seasoncode=E2016)

Shows his nationality as Slovenian. What's that about? He's averaging 8.1 points a game. Pretty good, considering his slow start at the beginning of the season.

Jstock12
12-08-2016, 08:12 AM
Kevin's current stats page (http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=006433&seasoncode=E2016)

Shows his nationality as Slovenian. What's that about? He's averaging 8.1 points a game. Pretty good, considering his slow start at the beginning of the season.

Since Kevin also has a Slovenian passport, it's probably a plus, since there are some rules regarding the foreigners in European clubs and Pangos being a "European" helps when constructing a roster. What I dug up is this:


* 12 Roster = 7 Foreigners, 5 Domestic Players

5 Home Grown Player, (at least three years from 14 to 20 year old in one of the domestic teams)

2 Non-Europe Passport player, (mostly USA) // Kevin being a Slovenian (as opposed to a Canadian) helps to leave one of these slots open

5 Europe & Cotonou Passport player

Mojo13
12-08-2016, 08:39 AM
Since Kevin also has a Slovenian passport, it's probably a plus, since there are some rules regarding the foreigners in European clubs and Pangos being a "European" helps when constructing a roster. What I dug up is this:

It is a huge advantage for Pangos to have the Slovenian passport. Every European league is a little different on the limitations of non-European passport holders but typically the imports need to be the best players on the team. The job opportunities open up immensely if you have a European passport. The pay opportunities increase as it is easier to find a contract with bigger and better budgeted teams. The Slovenian passport could be the sole reason Kevin is playing in the EuroLeague. He could very well be regulated to a lesser league (less pay) if he was relying only on a Canadian passport.

Any non-European will try to do this if they can. The Canadian Scrubb brothers play on British passports.
Many Americans have "sold themselves" for a Euro passport by pimping themselves out to their national team. It is rare to find a Euro (or Asian) national team that doesn't have a naturalized American as a star player (or sometimes an African). Lithuania and Serbia are about the only two I can think of.

Jstock12
12-08-2016, 08:43 AM
Many Americans have "sold themselves" for a Euro passport by pimping themselves out to their national team. It is rare to find a Euro (or Asian) national team that doesn't have a naturalized American as a star player (or sometimes an African). Lithuania and Serbia are about the only two I can think of.

Yep. Lithuania won't be doing this any time soon either, even though we are in desperate need of some good guards... It's just national pride I guess - many Lithuanians said they would stop supporting the national team if there was a naturalized player there. I know Serbians are very proud too in this regard.

ZagNative
12-08-2016, 08:47 AM
JStock and Mojo, you guys are a couple of treasures here! Thanks for the info!

ZagNative
12-08-2016, 11:06 AM
A minute into the game, and Pangos sinks his first three-pointer! http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=85&seasoncode=E2016#!boxscore

Edited to add: Under four minutes in, Kev has 8 points! Keep on cookin', boy!

Jstock12
12-08-2016, 11:26 AM
A minute into the game, and Pangos sinks his first three-pointer! http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=85&seasoncode=E2016#!boxscore

Edited to add: Under four minutes in, Kev has 8 points! Keep on cookin', boy!

That first three was very deep too! Something like 25 feet.

Jstock12
12-08-2016, 11:38 AM
Kevin just made another deep three. Bank-shot from 25 feet at the top of the key... It's probably his day ;)

ZagNative
12-08-2016, 11:53 AM
At the half, kevin has 16 points on 3-4 three-point shooting, a couple of rebounds and assists, a steal, and zero turnovers, with a Performance Index Rating of 17.

Game's tied at 49-49.

Jstock12
12-08-2016, 12:21 PM
At the half, kevin has 16 points on 3-4 three-point shooting, a couple of rebounds and assists, a steal, and zero turnovers, with a Performance Index Rating of 17.

Game's tied at 49-49.

He's doing great so far. But Zalgiris needs more production from other players as well. Kevin can't will them to a win by his own.

Off-topic: Real's Luka Doncic is such a great talent. 9 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals in 20 minutes as a 17-year old.

ZagNative
12-08-2016, 12:25 PM
With three minutes left in the third, Kevin has 19 points, but he's on the bench right now, which makes me very nervous.... Real Madrid leads it 71-64.

ZagNative
12-08-2016, 01:02 PM
Real Madrid wins 96-91, Kev fouls out near the end of the game, ending up with 19 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, a steal and just one turnover. Shoot! That game, against the #2 team at Euroleague, was winnable, and Kevin sure did what he could ....

Jstock12
12-08-2016, 02:03 PM
Real Madrid wins 96-91, Kev fouls out near the end of the game, ending up with 19 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, a steal and just one turnover. Shoot! That game, against the #2 team at Euroleague, was winnable, and Kevin sure did what he could ....

Those Luka Doncic threes at the end were unbelievable. Very demoralizing too... This kid is the future of European basketball.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eNuGh92fV8

ZagNative
12-08-2016, 02:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDQxGnAs-V0

Jstock12
12-20-2016, 09:40 AM
It's the Kevin Pangos show. 4/4 from three so far against Anadolu Efes Istanbul.

sittingon50
12-20-2016, 11:16 AM
It's the Kevin Pangos show. 4/4 from three so far against Anadolu Efes Istanbul.

Where is that game being played, JStock? I saw Istanbul & wonder what security is like today.

Jstock12
12-20-2016, 12:24 PM
Where is that game being played, JStock? I saw Istanbul & wonder what security is like today.

ABDI IPEKCI ARENA (Istanbul). There weren't too many fans in the arena though. My guess is that they (fans) were either a little bit scared to come because of the recent events OR they purposefully limited the attendance limit so they could provide better security for the game.

ZagNative
12-20-2016, 01:55 PM
Great game for Kevin today in Euroleague, Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=97&seasoncode=E2016), 15 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 steal, and 3 TOs...

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/7hiqmnctp6w9pbak/937feb75-0281-4437-b564-2f06b73a9baa/825/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb16.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK90fJ6iUgg

OZZY
12-21-2016, 09:38 PM
Thanks to JStock and ZN for the links and enthusiasm!

well it sure looks like how KP hits from the 3 has a lot to do with how Zalgiris does in the EuroLeague...

5/6 = Win!

At least against mid and lower tier EuroLeague teams.

Have to say that Kevin is certainly repaying his coaches confidence in him and making us happy at the sane time.

:)

ZagNative
12-29-2016, 03:08 PM
Kevin's Zalgris team beats Milan in Euroleague play today, with Zalgris leading over EA7 Emporio Armani Milan 78-70. Kevin with 6 points, 7 assists, 2 steals, and 2 rebounds, leaving Zalgris #11 in the 16-team league standings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hGuQbmKs4g

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/7ia68xak4bpfk43t/937feb75-0281-4437-b564-2f06b73a9baa/e9f/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb16.jpg

Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=115&seasoncode=E2016)

OZZY
12-29-2016, 07:06 PM
Thanks ZN,

Not a bad score line for Kevin, and great hustle shown on the Motum basket!

Mojo13
12-30-2016, 08:44 AM
Kevin's Zalgris team beats Milan in Euroleague play today, with Zalgris leading over EA7 Emporio Armani Milan 78-70. Kevin with 6 points, 7 assists, 2 steals, and 2 rebounds, leaving Zalgris #11 in the 16-team league standings.



#11 of 16 yes, but also one game out of 8th spot and the playoffs. Some may not know this, but it is a huge improvement on last year and above expectations for Zalgiris.
Zalgiris is running with the league's second lowest budget of about 8M euros. Compare that to league highest CSKA with about 35M euros and the team they just beat (Milan) with about 19M. Fairly successful season so far for Zalgiris. KP is a huge piece of that.

Budgets with taxes according to beasketnews.lt

CSKA Moscow – €35M
Real Madrid – €27M
Fenerbahce – €23M
Barcelona – €21M
Darussafaka Dogus – €20M
EA7 Emporio Armani Milan – €19M
Anadolu Efes – €18M
Panathinaikos – €14M
Olympiacos – €12.5M
Galatasaray – €12M
Baskonia – €11.5M
Maccabi – €11M
Unics Kazan – €10.5M
Brose Bamberg – €8.5M
Zalgiris – €8M
Crvena Zvezda – €5M

sittingon50
12-30-2016, 09:45 AM
Thanks for that background, Mojo.

Jstock12
12-31-2016, 07:35 AM
While we're only 11 out of 16, but this is a really good & exciting season for Zalgiris. There really were no unwinnable games for us so far. We were competitive in every single game against top European clubs (CSKA included), so it's quite exciting, because if we were just a little bit more lucky in some of the games, we could easily be in the top5 right now. No team has blown us out so far either. Fun year for Lithuanian Euroleague fans :-)

ZagNative
01-24-2017, 09:29 AM
Zalgris after a minute into the second quarter against a very tough CSKA Moscow team trails 22-26. Kevin with 8 points so far, with one assist and a turnover. Come on, Zalgris!

Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=152&seasoncode=E2016#!boxscore)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C29KWGxXcAEydy8.jpg

ZagNative
01-24-2017, 11:09 AM
Wow! Incredible game for Kevin, with21 points, 4 assists, 2 steals, and 4 TOs in a 79-74 win over CSKA Moscow! Kevin must be so jacked! CSKA Moscow was the leader of Euroleague with 14-4 and Zalgris was 13th with 6-12 until this win, which moves them up a spot to #12. That is just so neat for Kevin!

Post-game press conference starting soon on Youtube: (Edited to add: the stream stopped midway through the broadcast. Darn! I wanted to hear from Kevin...)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REdTnvU66xM

ZagNative
01-24-2017, 11:36 AM
Eurobasket report of the game (http://www.eurobasket.com/Lithuania/news/477277/EuroLeague:-Kevin-Pangos-carries-Zalgiris-past-CSKA-in-Kaunas)


EuroLeague: Kevin Pangos carries Zalgiris past CSKA in Kaunas - Jan 24, 2017

Zalgiris - CSKA 79:74

Zalgiris surprised CSKA in Kaunas tonight. Kevin Pangos (188-PG-93, college: Gonzaga) scored 21 points to lead the Lithuanian powerhouse to the 7th victory in EuroLeague regular season.

The teams went neck and neck throughout the first period. CSKA and Zalgiris were tied at 20 after ten minutes. The visitors pulled ahead in the second frame. CSKA established a 45:38 halftime advantage. But the hosts turned things around in the second half. Zalgiris pulled within just 4 points at the final intermission 57:61. Zalgiris held CSKA to just 13 points in the fourth term and celebrated a well-deserved victory.

Augusto Lima (207-C-91) provided 12 points, while Paulius Jankunas (205-PF-84) tossed in 11 points for the hosts. James Augustine (208-F-84, college: Illinois) responded with 15 points and 7 rebounds for CSKA. Nando De Colo (196-SG-87) and Cory Higgins (195-G-89, college: Colorado) deposited 11 points apiece in the loss.

Zalgiris: Kevin Pangos 21, Augusto Lima 12, Paulius Jankunas 11
CSKA: James Augustine 15, Nando De Colo 11, Cory Higgins 11

Jstock12
01-24-2017, 11:36 AM
Big game from Kevin. He made some really big shots. Wasn't scared of the moment. Kudos!

ZagNative
01-24-2017, 11:41 AM
Eurohoops Report (http://www.eurohoops.net/featured/388878/zalgiris-emerges-triumphant-goliath-cska-moscow): "Zalgiris emerges triumphant over ďGoliathĒ CSKA Moscow!"
Zalgiris prevailed over CSKA Moscow 79-74 in Kaunas, marking a very important win of prestige against a much stronger opponent! The Lithuanians improved to 7-12 in the standings, while CSKA fell to 14-5.

Kevin Pangos shined with 21 points and important contribution in the final minutes of the game for the winners. Augusto Lima had 12 points and captain Paulius Jankunas added 11.

Sarunas Jasikeviciusí team put the visitors to the test from early on. Pangos executed from the 3-point line to give his team a 5-point advantage, 12-7 at 4′, then grabbed another one with Jankunas, 18-13. At the end of the period, the score was even, at 20 points.

James Augustine (15 points) was crucial for Dimitris Itoudisí team in the second period and was the one to keep his team ahead 38-45 at halftime.

Zalgiris trimmed the short deficit and even got the lead of the game (50-47) in the beginning of the second half with a shot by Leo Westermann. The two teams were head to head throughout the third period, yet CSKA grabbed a short lead at the end, 57-61.

With Vorontsevich (9 points), the Russians expanded, yet with 4 minutes to go, the Lithuanian team tied the score again at 70 points.

ZagNative
01-24-2017, 11:48 AM
http://www.euroleague.net/rs/7kd3hlr56brpws8w/937feb75-0281-4437-b564-2f06b73a9baa/5c3/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb16.jpg

ZagNative
01-24-2017, 12:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRGIFK5z6PI

Jstock12
01-24-2017, 04:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRGIFK5z6PI

Just to add to this, Zalgiris-CSKA games are always special for Lithuanians since the 1980s. Winning those feels great.


In the mid-1980s, the finals between BC Žalgiris Kaunas and CSKA Moscow (Central Sports Club of Army) served as a major inspiration for Lithuanian national revival that contributed to the emergence of the Sąjūdis national movement and re-establishment of state independence. Especially when they played in Kaunas Sports Hall.

ZagNative
01-24-2017, 04:31 PM
Wow. That's neat!


Just to add to this, Zalgiris-CSKA games are always special for Lithuanians since the 1980s. Winning those feels great.

In the mid-1980s, the finals between BC Žalgiris Kaunas and CSKA Moscow (Central Sports Club of Army) served as a major inspiration for Lithuanian national revival that contributed to the emergence of the Sąjūdis national movement and re-establishment of state independence. Especially when they played in Kaunas Sports Hall.

First win over CSKA Moscow in 18 games! The crowd in this video looks out of its mind with joy!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8KeZctfUoY

ZagNative
01-24-2017, 05:10 PM
More celebration!


Before an adoring sellout crowd, in a rivalry that dates back to the 1940s, Zalgiris Kaunas ended an 18-game losing streak against CSKA Mosocw with a thrilling 79-74 victory behind 21 points from Kevin Pangos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OokKe0OqqrE

ZagNative
01-25-2017, 02:01 AM
Here is the archive of the game from Euroleague: http://www.euroleague.tv/video/cskamoscow-2017-01-24-archive

ZagNative
01-25-2017, 02:01 AM
Here is the archive of the game from Euroleague: http://www.euroleague.tv/video/cskamoscow-2017-01-24-archive

Mojo13
01-25-2017, 11:25 AM
Great game by KP.
Too bad Milos Teodosic didn't play. If KP could do this against the best player (and PG) in the world not in the NBA it would have been that much more impressive.
Good show by KP regardless.

ZagNative
01-27-2017, 08:43 AM
Another Euroleague game coming up for Kevin, this time vs. Darussafaka Dogus Istanbul, which is currently 10-9 in Euroleague to Zalgris Kaunas 7-12. Fingers crossed for Kevin to have a great game. Live Stats will be here. (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=158&seasoncode=E2016)

Preview:


For the first time in club history, Darussafaka Dogus Istanbul (10-9) hosts Lithuanian powerhouse Zalgiris Kaunas (7-12) on Friday. In their only previous meeting earlier this season in Round 5, Darussafaka erased an 11-point third quarter deficit and defeated Zalgiris 80-83. Adrien Moerman scored 16 points and had a career-high 5 steals in that game, and Scottie Wilbekin also scored 16 for Darussafaka. Zalgiris point guard Leo Westermann scored a career-high 21 points, and Paulius Jankunas also had 21 in that game for Coach Sarunas Jasikevicius’ men who enter this contest flying high, after ending a 17-game and 17-year EuroLeague losing streak against CSKA Moscow. Zalgiris top performers this season have been power forwards Jankunas (12.8 ppg., 6.2 rpg.) and Brock Motum (12.1 ppg., 3.6 rpg.), while starting point guard Kevin Pangos has really picked up his game after a slow start to his rookie EuroLeague season, and is now posting 8.6 points and 3.1 assists, and makes on average 2 three-pointers per game. Carrying the biggest load for the hosts on both ends of the floor have been playmaker Brad Wanamaker (14.9 ppg., 4.3 apg., 1.4 spg.) and power forward Will Cyburn (13.1 ppg., 5.6 rpg.), and Wilbekin has been another key contributor, often off the bench (11.2 ppg., 3.4 apg., 1.5 spg.). Recent addition, teenage big man Ante Zizic has been Darussafaka’s revelation inside, and the young center is coming off a 16-point, 18-rebound performance in Wednesday’s loss against Efes. Both Darussafaka and Zalgiris are solid rebounding teams, and especially excel on the offensive glass with Zalgiris pulling down league second-best 12.3 offensive rebounds, and Darussafaka ranks just below with 11.6 per game. Despite good work on the boards, Zalgiris has scored more than 80 points only once in the last eight games, but it did win three of its last five road games, and has averaged 81.8 points per game away from home this campaign. Darussafaka has done great in its Volkswagen Arena, and has come out victorious in front of its fans in six of its last seven EuroLeague games. With the hosts in the thick of the playoff race, and Zalgiris needing a win to join the contention, expect a great battle in Istanbul.

Jstock12
01-27-2017, 10:33 AM
Kevin is becoming a cold-blooded assassin. Just knocked down a clutch three with only 1 minute left to extend Zalgiris' lead to 7.

ZagNative
01-27-2017, 10:53 AM
Well, that was cool. wins it 69-66, (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=158&seasoncode=E2016)Kevin leading all scorers with 14 points and 3 assists.

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/7kkl4l6jqy88a3uh/937feb75-0281-4437-b564-2f06b73a9baa/dca/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb16.jpg

ZagNative
01-27-2017, 11:10 AM
From Twitter:

BC Zalgiris Kaunas ‏@bczalgiris

When @lwestermann was taken to hospital with the cut lip, @KPangos stepped up & scored 14 total points to lead #Zalgiris to the win! #DDIZAL

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3M77PdWYAApekK.jpg

ZagNative
01-27-2017, 11:38 AM
I stumbled across this fun Youtube interview video. Kev's a charmer!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb-8m3Um0QY

ZagNative
01-27-2017, 12:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C-EE7eEPIU

ZagNative
01-27-2017, 12:21 PM
Game report from the Euroleague site (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=158&seasoncode=E2016#!report):

Zalgiris storms into playoff picture with win at Darussafaka

Zalgiris Kaunas battled its way back into the playoff picture with a 66-69 road win over Darussafaka Dogus Istanbul at Volkswagen Arena on Friday night. The Lithuanian champs improved to 8-12 and a share of 10th place, while Darussafaka fell to 10-10 and is in eighth, the final spot that leads to the playoffs. Kevin Pangos led the winners with 14 points, including a clutch three-pointer with 90 seconds to go that helped keep Darussafaka at bay. Augusto Lima added 11 points for Zalgiris, which outrebounded Darussafaka 28-35. Zalgiris made 50% of its 16 three-point tries, but the real key to victory was its defense, which kept Darussafaka out of rhythm and saw the home side shoot at subpar numbers from all ranges (38.5% on two-pointers, 33.3% on threes and 67.9% on free throws). Brad Wanamaker led Darussafaka with 17 points, 8 assists and 3 steals and Dairis Bertans added 13 points off the bench.

Both teams scored on their maiden possessions, but soon the offenses were slowed and the scoreboard showed 5-4 after five minutes. Leo Westermann sandwiched a pair of threes around an assist to put the visitors ahead 5-12. The hosts closed the gap through outside shots and tied it at 14-14 on a Furkan Aldemir slam. Lukas Lekaviciusís jumper left Zalgiris ahead, 14-16, after 10 minutes. A Bertans triple to start the second half put the hosts in front and the lead changed hands on each of the next few possessions. With Antanas Kavaliauskas scoring, rebounding and even assisting in the paint, Zalgiris climbed in front 24-28 midway through the second quarter. Darussafaka twice came within 1 through three-pointers, but Zalgiris seemed to have the answers and Edgaras Ulanovasís jumper made it 31-38 at halftime. Three times Zalgiris led by as many as 8 points, before a run of 5 free throws drew Darussafaka within 44-47. Luke Harangody missed a three that would have given Darussafaka the lead; instead Zalgiris scored the next 6 points to regain the 8-point advantage. Wanamakerís layup on the buzzer made it 49-55 through three quarters. Lekaviciusís baseline drive gave Zalgiris its biggest lead, 51-60. Darussafaka continued to claw its way back and after free throws by Wanamaker, it was 60-64 with two minutes to go, but then Harangody missed 2 free throws and Pangos connected from downtown at the other end to all but seal the outcome.

Mojo13
01-30-2017, 09:50 AM
Zalgiris has a weak rest of season schedule so there is a real chance they can make the playoffs. That would be something.

KP is playing much better than earlier in the season and it mostly looks like a confidence issue. When he is feeling it, he is a great shooter hitting shots with pressure in his face. When he starts slow it can get ugly.

those who what more of his games let me know if this is true - but he really seems to be their SG with Wesserman as the main ball handler and playmaker. Although he has shown elite shooting more regularly lately, his play-making and defense are still sub par. KP is pretty undersized as a SG, even in the European leagues. He is still young and obviously improving, but it would be nice to see his PG skills improving faster. He will have a much lower ceiling as a SG in his professional career.

Jstock12
01-30-2017, 10:01 AM
Zalgiris has a weak rest of season schedule so there is a real chance they can make the playoffs. That would be something.

KP is playing much better than earlier in the season and it mostly looks like a confidence issue. When he is feeling it, he is a great shooter hitting shots with pressure in his face. When he starts slow it can get ugly.

those who what more of his games let me know if this is true - but he really seems to be their SG with Wesserman as the main ball handler and playmaker. Although he has shown elite shooting more regularly lately, his play-making and defense are still sub par. KP is pretty undersized as a SG, even in the European leagues. He is still young and obviously improving, but it would be nice to see his PG skills improving faster. He will have a much lower ceiling as a SG in his professional career.

The Lithuanian broadcasting crew for the Euroleague games have touched upon this subject a little bit. They also think Pangos is so far more effective as a SG for Zalgiris, because Westermann has better PnR skills and due to his length can execute some passes that might be a bit more problematic for Kevin. That coupled with the fact that Kevin is a far better 3PT shooter than Westermann.

OZZY
03-26-2017, 05:38 PM
Just a quick update on KP.

After some so-so performances over the last month Kevin played a key role in his teams win against Maccabi T-A in the last EuroLeague round.

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Euroleague/2017/0323_159_183.asp

The team sits currently in 10th lace 9ouof 16 teams) and have a very remote chance of making the top 8, needing to win the last two games (both winnable) and having other teams lose.

From what Jstock says 10th place would be a relatively good result for Zalgiris given the big budgets of some of the other teams (with X NBA players etc.).

Mojo13
04-10-2017, 08:46 AM
Just a quick update on KP.

After some so-so performances over the last month Kevin played a key role in his teams win against Maccabi T-A in the last EuroLeague round.

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Euroleague/2017/0323_159_183.asp

The team sits currently in 10th lace 9ouof 16 teams) and have a very remote chance of making the top 8, needing to win the last two games (both winnable) and having other teams lose.

From what Jstock says 10th place would be a relatively good result for Zalgiris given the big budgets of some of the other teams (with X NBA players etc.).

After a kind of up and down season KP has put up three really nice games in a row for Zalgiris.
He has struggled with consistency so this is quite encouraging.
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=006433&seasoncode=E2016

I have seen a few rumors of Galastaray (Turkey) trying to get at KP. They are dropping out of EL for next year so it may be a step down. Perhaps there is more money with them though. It will be interesting to see if that is just chatter and Zalgiris brings him back. I believe it was a team option 2nd year on he contract.

ZagsGoZags
04-11-2017, 08:40 PM
I stumbled across this fun Youtube interview video. Kev's a charmer!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb-8m3Um0QY

thanks for this interview, it is so much fun to visit OLD DOGS,
waltzing down memory lane

ZagNative
04-12-2017, 04:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3-awAO2Jw8

ZagNative
04-12-2017, 05:02 PM
Kevin's quick wit and charm really comes through in this top 10 highlight video for Zagreb. He'd make a great sportscaster!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sr4E_sC3G8

Mojo13
06-13-2017, 02:22 PM
So Zalgiris and KP won the Lithuanian league title a few days ago (no surprise as they are the dominant team in the league).
JStock may know more if he is out there but it seems Zalgiris was pleased enough with KP that there are rumors about him being extended for next year. He started most of the season and played more of a SG and back-up PG. Leo Westerman was the main ball handling PG all season and played fairly well, but the is rumor he will be leaving Zalgiris for brighter pastures (more money). The rumor right now is Westerman heading to CSKA to replace Teodosic.

If that is the case it may be a good opportunity for KP to assume the primary ball handling PG role and why Zalgiris is interested in extending him. I am not sure of that though as there is another young Lithuanian PG on the roster that could move into that role. It seemed KP has a an "ok" season with Zalgiris - he seemed very up and down in the boxscores mostly reliant on hitting from three to really contribute on points. Regardless it sounded like the coaching staff likes him and with rumors of him being re-signed they are obviously backing KP.

ZagNative
06-24-2017, 08:05 PM
Thanks, Mojo. I always enjoy your input. Here's a post-season video interview with Kevin that confirms your take on the up and down aspect of Kevin's season:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV7BPKEOZ5w&list=TLGGQ4e-5b9ge6cyNDA2MjAxNw

And a highlight video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_v4dWsaph4&list=TLGGQ4e-5b9ge6cyNDA2MjAxNw&index=2

ZagNative
06-24-2017, 08:31 PM
And Kevin announced his engagement to Katey Pennington a few days ago on his Instagram account (https://www.instagram.com/kpangos/?hl=en):

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/ZagNative/Screenprints/Screenshot%2038.png_zpsirhv4655.jpg

Jstock12
07-27-2017, 05:40 AM
It seems that Zalgiris is pretty much done building their roster for the next season. As far as the point guards are concerned, they've lost both Westerman and Lekavicius, but acquired Vasilije Micic and Dee Bost. Vasilijie Micic, much like Leo Westerman, is a tall pass-first point guard with great court vision. But he's not very athletic. Dee Bost on the other hand, is a very fast and athletic point guard, as well as a good defender. It's really tough to predict how Pangos might be used next season. He might start as a SG next to Micic, but having both Micic and Pangos on the court at the same time might be a defensive liability. So maybe the starting back-court will be either Micic/Bost or Pangos/Bost (similar to the Pangos/Bell duo?).

bartruff1
07-27-2017, 06:06 AM
" Can't Miss ".....no doubt he is making some money and having a lot of fun....but Kevin will have much greater success after basketball... we will be hearing about him for decades...

Mojo13
07-27-2017, 08:32 AM
It seems that Zalgiris is pretty much done building their roster for the next season. As far as the point guards are concerned, they've lost both Westerman and Lekavicius, but acquired Vasilije Micic and Dee Bost. Vasilijie Micic, much like Leo Westerman, is a tall pass-first point guard with great court vision. But he's not very athletic. Dee Bost on the other hand, is a very fast and athletic point guard, as well as a good defender. It's really tough to predict how Pangos might be used next season. He might start as a SG next to Micic, but having both Micic and Pangos on the court at the same time might be a defensive liability. So maybe the starting back-court will be either Micic/Bost or Pangos/Bost (similar to the Pangos/Bell duo?).


I don't know these guys as well as you might, but Pangos seems to have a better resume than Bost, and Bost seems more of a true PG. Bost seems he is slated as the primary back-up PG. Micic is young and has good pedigree and is also a true PG - like Westerman. Pangos is showing himself in Europe as a great, although a little streaky shooter. Maybe that is working itself out as he gains confidence.
Pangos really seems to be settling in as a SG for Zalgiris - or more of a combo guard who can create. He is not really showing himself as a floor general, but certainly he runs PnR and PnP with bigs well enough. He can initiate the offense, but that is not his strong suit. It seems Micic will be main PG next season, his rep is as a floor general, like Westermann was, but is Micic better at shooting and finishing? Westerman wasn't great. It doesn't sound like it - so I bet Pangos's shooting will be needed in the starting unit. Bost seems like he will provide scoring and athleticism of the bench.

JStock - how does the signing of Axel Toupane impact Pangos. He is a pretty good player (probably better than Pangos). He is 6'7 and listed as a SG/SF....will he play SF for Zalgiris or SG? (or both?)

Jstock12
07-27-2017, 08:58 AM
I don't know these guys as well as you might, but Pangos seems to have a better resume than Bost, and Bost seems more of a true PG. Bost seems he is slated as the primary back-up PG. Micic is young and has good pedigree and is also a true PG - like Westerman. Pangos is showing himself in Europe as a great, although a little streaky shooter. Maybe that is working itself out as he gains confidence.
Pangos really seems to be settling in as a SG for Zalgiris - or more of a combo guard who can create. He is not really showing himself as a floor general, but certainly he runs PnR and PnP with bigs well enough. He can initiate the offense, but that is not his strong suit. It seems Micic will be main PG next season, his rep is as a floor general, like Westermann was, but is Micic better at shooting and finishing? Westerman wasn't great. It doesn't sound like it - so I bet Pangos's shooting will be needed in the starting unit. Bost seems like he will provide scoring and athleticism of the bench.

JStock - how does the signing of Axel Toupane impact Pangos. He is a pretty good player (probably better than Pangos). He is 6'7 and listed as a SG/SF....will he play SF for Zalgiris or SG? (or both?)

You've raised some good points regarding the importance of Pangos' shooting, it can't be overlooked. I was just speculating really. I don't really know what Jasikevicius' plans are for the upcoming season. Toupane seems to be a really good defender with good size. So maybe the answer to the potential weakness of Micic/Pangos pairing would be starting Toupane at the SF. Though I have a hard time believing Ulanovas will be relegated to the bench.

Mojo13
07-27-2017, 09:24 AM
What do you think about Zalgiris as a whole this season? They seem quite interesting and maybe better than last year.
Brandon Davies is known and appreciated on this board. That seems like a good add replacing Lima/Motum. Add Aaron White in there as well and it seems like an much improved front court.
Micic replacing Westerman seems like a slight down grade. But Dost is an upgrade on the bench. So maybe a combined wash at PG?
Toupane looks like a nice add improving the wing. Add that to Ulanovas and Pangos's improvement with age and a nice core of returning Lithuanian vets and it is looking like an improved team (at least on paper).

Playoffs maybe?

Jstock12
07-27-2017, 11:21 AM
What do you think about Zalgiris as a whole this season? They seem quite interesting and maybe better than last year.
Brandon Davies is known and appreciated on this board. That seems like a good add replacing Lima/Motum. Add Aaron White in there as well and it seems like an much improved front court.
Micic replacing Westerman seems like a slight down grade. But Dost is an upgrade on the bench. So maybe a combined wash at PG?
Toupane looks like a nice add improving the wing. Add that to Ulanovas and Pangos's improvement with age and a nice core of returning Lithuanian vets and it is looking like an improved team (at least on paper).

Playoffs maybe?

Yep. I think we've improved on paper. Not only depth, but talent as well. Lima/Motum weren't bad, but I think Davies/White should be an improvement. Javtokas was basically on his last legs (now retired) and Seibutis was just a shadow of his former self. Toupane and Bost being good defenders should give us more versatility and options when we really need to get some stops. Jasikevicius definitely has more tools to work with at his disposal. While last year making the playoffs would have been an over-achievement, I think this year that should be the minimum goal.

ZagNative
08-23-2017, 03:47 PM
Here's a not-very-inspiring interview of Kevin at the airport on his return to Lithuania:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpHkznh5V4A

ZagNative
09-04-2017, 10:08 AM
From Twitter, Kevin with 20 points in a losing effort to Astana in Zalgris' first friendly game of the season, 69-73, shooting 6/9 threes, with 5 assists and 5 TOs. Note Brandon Davies, former foe from BYU, played in his first game for Zalgris, with 7 points

BC Zalgiris Kaunas‏Verified account @bczalgiris

#Zalgiris - #Astana 69:73. @KPangos scored 20 points in the first friendly game with a wide rotation. Boxscore: http://zalgiris.lt/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/2017-09-04_zal-ast.pdf

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI5aUgFWsAYQUYP.jpg

ZagNative
09-08-2017, 10:00 AM
algris beat Khimki today, 78-76, but doesn't look like Kevin had his best game, with only 4 points on 1/7 shooting, with 6 assists, 5 TOs and 3 steals.

Box Score (http://zalgiris.lt/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/2017-09-08_zalgiris-khimki_4.pdf)

ZagNative
09-17-2017, 12:26 PM
#Zalgiris wins GloriaCup after beating @zenitbasket 79:78. Kevin scored 13 points, 7 rebounds, and 4 assists.

sittingon50
09-17-2017, 04:08 PM
Nice line.

Thanks Native.

OZZY
09-17-2017, 09:17 PM
Thanks ZN,

Watched a bit of the game against Zenit just now, KP looked pretty good out there and had his hand on the ball a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N67LLNBABI

Jstock12
09-20-2017, 06:31 AM
First official game of the season starts in 1 hour and 30 minutes. Let's do this :)

Jstock12
09-20-2017, 06:38 AM
Live stream available here on the official page of the Lithuanian Basketball League: http://new.lkl.lt/rungtynes/2

Jstock12
09-20-2017, 09:46 AM
Zalgiris wins. KP with 13 points (4/7 FG, 3/4 3P, 2/2 FT), 4 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 drawn fouls in 23 minutes of play. A plus/minus of +14.

ZagNative
09-20-2017, 09:53 AM
Box Score. (http://http://new.lkl.lt/rungtynes/2)


BC Zalgiris Kaunas‏Verified account @bczalgiris

Kevin #Pangos gets hot in the 3rd quarter. @KPangos makes 3 consecutive threes and it's #Dzukija - #Zalgiris 54:68. @OfficialLKL #LKL

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKLwhBsX0AAeept.jpg

ZagNative
10-05-2017, 04:35 PM
good game for Kevin this morning, as Zalgris wins over Utenos Juventus, 88-66. Box Score. (http://new.lkl.lt/rungtynes/22#mbt:73-400$t&0=1)Kevin with 17 points, 6 assists, 2 steals and 2 rebounds.

Google translation of game story: (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnew.lkl.lt%2Fstraipsniai%2F878%2Ftr eciajame-kelinyje-nutoles-zalgiris-nugalejo-juventus%23)


http://new.lkl.lt/media/articles/750x400/8qK2qocMWN5rL2MhTDlWCV1bW14cEFzqGe0WN5Az.jpeg

Kevin Pangos became the most enjoyable player in the game, having scored 17 points in 20 minutes, having made 6 performances and scored 23 points.

"Kevin played great, he led the team forward," Sh. Jasikevičius. - I do not care about throws. We had a game plan and saw that he was doing it. It's funny that Kevin understands what we want to do against him. "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIUfghx6rGc

Jstock12
10-06-2017, 07:46 AM
Not sure if you guys are interested, but all of LKL (Lithuanian league) games are televised on www.lkl.lt - there's a big game coming up on Sunday between the two historically biggest Lithuanian teams Zalgiris (Pangos) vs Lietuvos Rytas.

EDIT: nevermind, just realized the game is going to start at 7:20 AM Spokane time :D

Mojo13
10-06-2017, 09:29 AM
Not sure if you guys are interested, but all of LKL (Lithuanian league) games are televised on www.lkl.lt - there's a big game coming up on Sunday between the two historically biggest Lithuanian teams Zalgiris (Pangos) vs Lietuvos Rytas.

EDIT: nevermind, just realized the game is going to start at 7:20 AM Spokane time :D


JStock - What are your early impression on KP so far this season? Any noticeable improvement to his game? He still primarily a SG who sometimes initiates the offense?? Any lead PG duties?
Usually you'd expect the first year in EL to be a big learning experience and I'm hoping he makes a solid jump this year.

Jstock12
10-06-2017, 10:05 AM
JStock - What are your early impression on KP so far this season? Any noticeable improvement to his game? He still primarily a SG who sometimes initiates the offense?? Any lead PG duties?
Usually you'd expect the first year in EL to be a big learning experience and I'm hoping he makes a solid jump this year.

Mostly plays as a SG, but is quite often asked to be the guard who initiates the PnR action. Our new acquisition Vasilije Micic is looking very good so far so I think he'll be doing most of the PG work. Aside from Dee Bost there's also a 21 year old Paulius Valinskas who's a PG/SG, so he'll be getting some minutes as well. Overall, I think Kevin looks very comfortable so far. Miles ahead of where he was last year at the same time, perhaps getting to know Jasikevicius' system plays a big role in that. Although all of this still has to be taken with a little grain of salt, because the Lithuanian league games are nothing like the Euroleague. The first Euroleague game for Zalgiris is in 1 week against Crvena Zvezda (Belgrade).

Jstock12
10-08-2017, 08:42 AM
there's a big game coming up on Sunday between the two historically biggest Lithuanian teams Zalgiris (Pangos) vs Lietuvos Rytas.

Zalgiris wins 70-67 with the help of some heroics by Kevin who was fantastic. He scored 12 of his total 19 points in the 4th quarter in some really key moments to help Zalgiris stay in the game and ultimately win it. Bravo :)

19 points (7/9 FG, 3/3 3PT, 2/2 FT), 4 assists, 3 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 block in 28 minutes of play.

ZagNative
10-08-2017, 12:44 PM
Thanks, Jstock!

Here's some video of Kevin from the game, ith a great post-game video of our guy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKcClqLTrCk

ZagNative
10-08-2017, 10:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C___pouGklY&feature=em-uploademail

Mojo13
10-09-2017, 09:40 AM
Honestly - I'm quite impressed by the ISO scoring and finishing in the paint. Neither are his known strengths. His inability to finish in the paint has been a core weakness his first two seasons of pro ball. Great to see this.
Only a few of those buckets where from spots ups - most he created on his own.

He is also looking and talking like a PG. Was this the game Dee Bost got hurt? Did KP take over as the PG?

ZagNative
10-12-2017, 11:54 AM
Preparing for Zalgris' first Euroleague game of the season tomoow, here is an interview with Kevin, starting at about the 4:00 mark:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYKn-LsuoEQ&feature=em-uploademail

Jstock12
10-13-2017, 07:23 AM
First game of the 2017-18 Euroleague season starts in 1.5 hours ;)

https://i.imgur.com/rJ9kZVX.png

Jstock12
10-13-2017, 10:43 AM
Pangos is so clutch, good lord.

Jstock12
10-13-2017, 10:46 AM
DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PANGOS JUST ROLLED HIS ANKLE. He was absolutely beasting before that. :(

Jstock12
10-13-2017, 10:48 AM
Kevin back in, it seems the injury wasn't that serious.

Jstock12
10-13-2017, 11:12 AM
Zalgiris escapes with a very close win 78-76 against Crvena Zvezda.

Pangos with 14 points (4/6 FG, 2/5 3PT), 9 of those points came in the 4th quarter. He also had 3 assists.

Mojo13
10-13-2017, 01:37 PM
Nice first EL game for KP. Especially the crunch time leadership.
Early indications are that he is stepping up his game again this year.

ZagNative
10-13-2017, 06:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y6vlu8Ftvk

Jstock12
10-20-2017, 04:19 AM
There's a game today against Khimki (Russia). Zalgiris is a huge underdog here. Especially after the team captain, Jankunas, got injured. Pangos will have to be THE MAN for Zalgiris to have any shot at winning this one. A much bigger test for Kevin compared to last week.

EDIT: Nevermind, it seems Jankunas is back already.

Mojo13
10-20-2017, 11:44 AM
There's a game today against Khimki (Russia). Zalgiris is a huge underdog here. Especially after the team captain, Jankunas, got injured. Pangos will have to be THE MAN for Zalgiris to have any shot at winning this one. A much bigger test for Kevin compared to last week.

EDIT: Nevermind, it seems Jankunas is back already.

Poor shooting night by KP (2 for 10 for 6 points) in a 85-77 loss. But 10 assists! (1 TO and led the team in minutes at 30) Not too many guys break double digit assist in the EL (40 minute games and less generous statisticians). He somehow the primary PG for this game? Something wrong with Micic? He only played 13 minutes off the bench and I thought he was the starting PG. I see Dee Bost (back up PG) is still hurt and didn't play...


Lookie what I found here....might have to get me one.
http://www.euroleaguestore.net/other-articles/game-jersey/euroleague-zalgiris-kaunas-nr3-jersey-.html

ZagNative
10-20-2017, 12:12 PM
http://www.euroleague.net/rs/89xmdmv54cgk7mi6/937feb75-0281-4437-b564-2f06b73a9baa/4f6/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb17.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un8N8C0pH68

Jstock12
10-20-2017, 12:43 PM
Poor shooting night by KP (2 for 10 for 6 points) in a 85-77 loss. But 10 assists! (1 TO and led the team in minutes at 30) Not too many guys break double digit assist in the EL (40 minute games and less generous statisticians). He somehow the primary PG for this game? Something wrong with Micic? He only played 13 minutes off the bench and I thought he was the starting PG. I see Dee Bost (back up PG) is still hurt and didn't play...


Lookie what I found here....might have to get me one.
http://www.euroleaguestore.net/other-articles/game-jersey/euroleague-zalgiris-kaunas-nr3-jersey-.html

Yeah, 10+ assists is a pretty rare feat in Euroleague. Micic didn't look good, very hesitant. I'm actually shocked we only lost by 8 on the road to a team like Khimki when we only shot 3/19 from three, that's 15.8%.

ZagNative
10-24-2017, 10:50 AM
Zalgris vs. FC Barcelona Lassa coming up in a few minutes in their third Euroleague game. Good luck to Kev!

Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=17&seasoncode=E2017)

Jstock12
10-24-2017, 11:35 AM
Zalgris vs. FC Barcelona Lassa coming up in a few minutes in their third Euroleague game. Good luck to Kev!

Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=17&seasoncode=E2017)

What a fantastic game so far for Kevin! He even hit a one-legged three-pointer at the end of the shotclock! :)

ZagNative
10-24-2017, 12:14 PM
16 points 7 minutes into the third ...

http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/eurocup/games/results/showgame?gamecode=33&seasoncode=U2017

Jstock12
10-24-2017, 12:21 PM
16 points 7 minutes into the third ...

http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/eurocup/games/results/showgame?gamecode=33&seasoncode=U2017

He's been doing pretty well defensively too! Although it helps that he finally has a distinct height advantage against his opponent, who is 5'11.

Jstock12
10-24-2017, 12:50 PM
What a win! I'm really happy :D

ZagNative
10-24-2017, 12:59 PM
http://www.euroleague.net/rs/8ac59yna7pf9lcky/937feb75-0281-4437-b564-2f06b73a9baa/01e/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb17.jpg

ZagNative
10-24-2017, 01:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prJm1u3zLLU

Jstock12
10-26-2017, 08:18 AM
In half an hour Kevin will go up against the best NBA prospect - Luka Doncic (Real Madrid), an 18 year old kid who is so far dominating grown men in the Euroleague and is the main contender to win the Euroleague MVP this year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDqfHV8WZ3w

Jstock12
10-26-2017, 09:20 AM
Great start by Kevin with 7 points after the first quarter. Zalgiris is trailing 16-18. KP is becoming such a reliable player in the Euroleague. I find myself wanting him to have the ball as much as possible.

ZagNative
10-26-2017, 09:21 AM
Box Score today's game Zalgris vs. Real Madrid. (http://http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=28&seasoncode=E2017) algris trails 16-18 after 10 minutes, Kevin already with 7 points!

ZagNative
10-26-2017, 09:47 AM
Kevin with 14 points already at the half! Zalgris trails 31-40. Luka Donic with 4 points so far.

Jstock12
10-26-2017, 10:47 AM
Zalgiris lost. I didn't expect a win against a team like Real Madrid, but it's still disappointing to get blown out like this. Doncic just completely took over the whole game in the 3rd quarter. As for Zalgiris, it seems like only Pangos and Kavaliauskas came in to play today. :(

Kevin's statline: 31:34 minutes, 20 points (7/12 FG, 4/9 3PT, 2/2 FT), 5 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals - great game by him.

ZagNative
10-26-2017, 10:52 AM
Kevin definitely came to play today. 20 points, 3 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals, and a block(!), with a PIR of 25.

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/8agyetkchb85vrhk/937feb75-0281-4437-b564-2f06b73a9baa/44d/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb17.jpg

ZagNative
10-26-2017, 11:31 AM
This is kind of a pitiful attempt at game highlights ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6U9B-IBFRc&feature=em-uploademail

ZagNative
10-26-2017, 12:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMxzXicFDDU

ZagNative
10-29-2017, 02:49 PM
Kevin's working hard out there - 17 points today in a 92-90 win over Lietkabelis in LKL league (Box Score. (http://en.lkl.lt/rungtynes/45#mbt:73-400$t&0=1)Add to his stat line 3 rebounds, 5 assists and 4 steals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AxRPvjs7uk

Jstock12
11-09-2017, 12:27 PM
Kevin was selected as the player of the game in Zalgiris win over Armani Milan 94-62.

KP with 12 points (4/6 3PT), 5 rebounds and 5 assists.

ZagNative
11-10-2017, 10:19 AM
Kevin is #3 in this video of game highlghts from yesterday, followed by postgame interviews - Kevin at 1:36.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk2oJ1ISRV0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RefFw6jg02Q&feature=em-uploademail

ZagNative
11-10-2017, 11:05 AM
More highlights from yesterday's game:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naJl7HnQVmc&feature=em-uploademail

ZagNative
11-14-2017, 06:55 AM
Video about Kevin from Eurohoops.net: http://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/553178/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-emerging/

He'll be playing in a Euroleague game against Unicaja Malaga today at 11:45.

ZagNative
11-14-2017, 10:59 AM
Live stats today's game. (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=52&seasoncode=E2017)algris is #8 in the Euroleague standings and Unicaja #9. http://www.euroleague.net/main/standings

Jstock12
11-14-2017, 11:36 AM
Flawless first half by Kevin. Outplaying a former NBA player Ray McCallum by a significant margin.

13 points (5/5 FG, 3/3 3PT) and 4 assists.

Jstock12
11-14-2017, 01:00 PM
What a game. Zalgiris was leading by 20 in the 3rd quarter, but Malaga clawed their way back and took it to overtime. Zalgiris managed to win with a buzzer-beater.

Pangos selected as the MVP of the game (again).

ZagNative
11-14-2017, 01:06 PM
Yup, turned out to be a real nail biter. Kevin with 21 points and 5 assists on 5/7 three-point shooting. Box Score. (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=52&seasoncode=E2017#!boxscore)

ZagNative
11-14-2017, 01:28 PM
On another tack, I stumbled upon Kevin and Katy's wedding site: https://www.theknot.com/us/kate-pennington-and-kevin-pangos-jul-2018

Mark your calendars:

Saturday, July 28, 2018
Attire: Semi-Formal
Ceremony and Reception
Whitetail Club
White Tail Ln, McCall, ID 83638, United States

The wedding ceremony and reception will take place at Whitetail Club Golf Course in McCall, Idaho.

Wedding Party:


Drew Barham - Best Man


Patrick Koudys - Groomsman


Paul Michael Pennington - Groomsman


Rem Bakamus - Groomsman


Gary Bell Jr - Groomsman


Kyle Dranginis - Groomsman


Domas Sabonis - Groomsman


Connor Griffin - Groomsman


Kyrie & Finley Hertz - Flower Girls
Kalia & Kye Potter - Ring Bearers
Jessica Oakes - Reader

ZagNative
11-14-2017, 01:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqNdKE6RwQY

ZagNative
11-14-2017, 02:14 PM
Eurohoops.net story: http://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/553886/ulanovas-zalgiris-kaunas-won-overtime-thriller/

The star: Kevin Pangos had his best game yet in the EuroLeague. He scored 21 points on the road and dished five assists. Considering that he also made three turnovers, he was not on top of his game as a creator but with Zalgiris needing a leader, he is emerging as the player who makes things happen.

And here's video of the amazing game-winning shot:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-mN0DRbY0Y

Jstock12
11-14-2017, 02:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqNdKE6RwQY

That play at 0:57... Whoever is doing these highlights totally butchered it. After KP got blocked, Zalgiris saved the ball, and within 2-3 seconds Pangos knocked down a three-pointer... But hey, I guess the block is more impressive when you leave that other part out :D

webspinnre
11-14-2017, 02:46 PM
On another tack, I stumbled upon Kevin and Katy's wedding site: https://www.theknot.com/us/kate-pennington-and-kevin-pangos-jul-2018

Mark your calendars:

Saturday, July 28, 2018
Attire: Semi-Formal
Ceremony and Reception
Whitetail Club
White Tail Ln, McCall, ID 83638, United States

The wedding ceremony and reception will take place at Whitetail Club Golf Course in McCall, Idaho.

Wedding Party:


Drew Barham - Best Man


Patrick Koudys - Groomsman


Paul Michael Pennington - Groomsman


Rem Bakamus - Groomsman


Gary Bell Jr - Groomsman


Kyle Dranginis - Groomsman


Domas Sabonis - Groomsman


Connor Griffin - Groomsman


Kyrie & Finley Hertz - Flower Girls
Kalia & Kye Potter - Ring Bearers
Jessica Oakes - Reader

Nice list of groomsmen there!

Jstock12
11-15-2017, 02:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8JTvnHAyf8

ZagNative
11-15-2017, 03:20 AM
JStock, that video was brilliant.

By the way, did you notice in Kevin's wedding plan announcement, Domas is listed as one of the groomsmen? You should plan a trip to the Pacific Northwest, starting in Spokane and maybe driving the 500 or so miles to McCall for Kev's wedding. It's beautiful country and should be a scenic drive.

ZagNative
11-23-2017, 09:55 AM
Kevin playing in a Euroleague game right now, leading ANADOLU EFES ISTANBUL,47-44 at the half. Box Score. (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=68&seasoncode=E2017#!boxscore) Zalgris is #8 in the Euroleague standings (http://www.euroleague.net/main/standings) and Anadolu Efes Istanbul is #15 out of 16.

ZagNative
11-23-2017, 11:15 AM
Good win for Kevin and Zalgris, ending up 91-83. Kevin with 10 points and 7 assists, with just one TO.

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/8cp65oot6kwdvvey/937feb75-0281-4437-b564-2f06b73a9baa/e41/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb17.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSSRgZJhX9w&feature=em-uploademail

Mojo13
11-30-2017, 07:42 PM
Here a blog post written by Kevin on the Euroleague website about his experiences there. Good read.

http://www.euroleague.net/features/blog/2017-2018/kevin-pangos/i/8d5ps5w4nwebkxrn/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-comfortable-in-kaunas

Jstock12
12-07-2017, 11:07 AM
KP with a double-double in the win against Panathinaikos Athens.

ZagNative
12-07-2017, 01:29 PM
Looks like a terrific game for Kev, with 12 points and 11 assists(!) in the win.

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/8dtcw7ygxdqfrxwe/3bdfbc82-b9c7-4633-b11e-691e52354124/1f6/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb17.jpg

Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=85&seasoncode=E2017)

Game Story:


Pangos, Zalgiris halt Panathinaikos streak

Zalgiris Kaunas used a killer third quarter to deny visiting Panathinaikos Athens the biggest winning streak of the season with an 80-74 home victory on Thursday. Zalgiris raised its record to 6-5 to stop Panathinaikos at five victories in a row and drop the visitors to 7-4. Panathinaikos led by 10-22 early in the second quarter, after which Zalgiris outscored the guests 54-25 until the third quarter ended 64-47. Nikos Pappas hit 4 threes in the fourth quarter to get Panathinaikos within 72-67, but Zalgiris was better at the foul line all night and sealed the win there. Paulius Jankunas led the winners with 17 points while Aaron White had 9 of his 13 in a 33-14 third-quarter onslaught by Zalgiris. Kevin Pangos had a double-double with 12 points and a career-high 11 assists for Zalgiris, while Edgaras Ulanovas pulled 11 rebounds of his team's 37-24 advantage over Panathinaikos. Pappas had 16 points, Chris Singleton 15, K.C. Rivers 11 and Nick Calathes 10 for the visitors, whose 17 of 30 free throw shooting hurt throughout the game, especially as they missed 7 of 11 tries to start the second half.

James Gist, who made 2 steals and committed 2 fouls in the first 2 minutes, also hit a post-up bank shot to open the scoring. Matt Lojeski's put-back gave Panathinaikos a 0-4 lead before Pangos fired in the game's first triple. Singleton and White exchanged three-pointers next. Antanas Kavaliauskas tied on a layup and gave Zalgiris its first lead, 8-7, with a free throw. Panathinaikos responded with great D in a 0-10 run during which Calathes scored twice before Kenny Gabriel made a tip-in at 8-17. A five-minute Zalgiris scoring drought ended with an inside basket by Brandon Davies but Singleton beat the first-quarter buzzer with a smooth triple for a 10-20 Panathinaikos lead. Lukas Lekavicius, in his first game against his old team, opened the second quarter with a jumper, but a second-chance triple by Arturas Milaknis got a rise out of the home crowd. Dee Bost's free throws and a jumper by Jankunas got Zalgiris within 17-22. Scoring stalled for both teams until Rivers beat the shot clock with a triple and Ulanovas put back a missed free throw at 21-25. Calathes reappeared with a floater that Pangos answered from deep. Zach Auguste and Davies traded three-point plays before a tipped-in free throw by Ulanovas ended the first half with Zalgiris having closed within 31-33.

Zalgiris started the second half with a bang as Axel Toupane reversed a fastbreak layup and Pangos lobbed to White for a go-ahead alley-oop dunk at 35-33. Calathes and Kavaliauskas traded baskets before Lojeski's transition triple put Panathinaikos back in front, 37-39. White blasted another dunk, tipped in his own miss and then stepped out for a triple to make it 44-40 for Zalgiris. Jankunas added 4 free throws and Pangos a layup to extend the Zalgiris run to 10-0 and the lead to 50-40. Singleton got 2 free throws for Panathinaikos that Ulanovas answered with another tip-in. When Jankunas and Ulanovas scored inside, it was a 15-point difference, 57-42. Rivers revived Panathinaikos from the arc at 59-47. Pangos exited a timeout with a three-pointer and Kavaliauskas put back his miss as the Zalgirio Arena reveled in a 64-47 lead after 30 minutes. Pappas hit an open three and a closely guarded one to suddenly lower the difference to 11 as the fourth quarter started. Jankunas responded with a jumper, but Pappas was not to be denied, and his next shot from downtown made it 66-56. Jankunas against steadied the hosts with a jumper and steal for a layup at 70-56. But Pappas measured off his fourth triple, then Rivers banked in a jumper and drilled from deep to suddenly make it 70-64. Vasilije Micic settled the home team's nerves from the lane, but Singleton rattled in another triple for a five-point difference, 72-67, with 4 minutes left. Jankunas again hit a jumper and White downed free throws, Gist finally scored inside at 76-70, but missed his team's 10th free throw of the game. Singleton made 3 of his next 4, between which Pangos fed Davies for a layup, leaving a 78-72 score with 1:44 to play. Free throws remained a theme as Micic made his with 36 seconds left and Gist missed 2, which sealed the win for Zalgiris.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIHweXVeUzs&feature=em-uploademail

ZagNative
12-07-2017, 01:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSje8C1HZcA

Jstock12
12-07-2017, 04:36 PM
Jasikevicius on Pangos:

"Kevin is ready to lead this team and has already proved it to me. He is our only consistent leader. I know that, you know that, other teams know that. That's why there's a lot of defensive schemes aimed to stop him. But he is leading our team anyway. Until other players feel 100% comfortable with the system, we will base our game around Kevin."

Tried to translate the essence as best as possible.

Bogozags
12-07-2017, 04:47 PM
Jasikevicius on Pangos:

"Kevin is ready to lead this team and has already proved it to me. He is our only consistent leader. I know that, you know that, other teams know that. That's why there's a lot of defensive schemes aimed to stop him. But he is leading our team anyway. Until other players feel 100% comfortable with the system, we will base our game around Kevin."

Tried to translate the essence as best as possible.

Sounds pretty darn good to me...THANKS for taking the time to provide us with this update...

OZZY
12-07-2017, 09:40 PM
Thanks ZN and JStock,

Appreciate the extra insight and links.

KP has the confidence of his coaches and teammates.

He has taken his game to the next level playing against the best teams in Europe, consistency is much better this year.

Even if this is the top level he ends up playing at, he should be proud that he makes the best of his God given talent and IQ.

:)

webspinnre
12-07-2017, 10:22 PM
And frankly, if he keeps this up, he's going to make a boat-load of money over his career. Good for him!

Jstock12
12-08-2017, 03:13 AM
Sounds pretty darn good to me...THANKS for taking the time to provide us with this update...

There was another Lithuanian basketball legend (Gintaras Krapikas) that got interviewed yesterday and this is what he had to say about Kevin:

"I think it was obvious that this is a point guard who needed time to get used to this level of basketball. It was clear to me that Kevin is a person with an unlimited potential, a very sincere and hard worker, has a very high basketball IQ. It was only the matter of time until he became one of the leaders. He's proving it right now. If he has a bad game, doesn't score, and doesn't inspire his teammates with his three-pointers, it becomes really tough for Zalgiris to win. He is a very important cog of the team."

So yeah, everyone is pretty hyped about Kevin here :D

bartruff1
12-08-2017, 05:51 AM
That is really a beautiful and remarkable city of about 300,000 and crazy for basketball. They have world class facilities and can seat some 20,000 for a game... and of course......being at the confluence of two rivers, a place of historical, cultural and economic significance.

I could not be more proud and happy for him...no doubt he would rather play for Toronto and make NBA money, but this is not bad...

Mojo13
12-08-2017, 08:37 AM
There was another Lithuanian basketball legend (Gintaras Krapikas) that got interviewed yesterday and this is what he had to say about Kevin:

"I think it was obvious that this is a point guard who needed time to get used to this level of basketball. It was clear to me that Kevin is a person with an unlimited potential, a very sincere and hard worker, has a very high basketball IQ. It was only the matter of time until he became one of the leaders. He's proving it right now. If he has a bad game, doesn't score, and doesn't inspire his teammates with his three-pointers, it becomes really tough for Zalgiris to win. He is a very important cog of the team."

So yeah, everyone is pretty hyped about Kevin here :D


His contract runs out this year so he should get a nice bump in pay (maybe up to $1M USD equivalent) - it think he is at about 250K euros after tax, which is about $550K USD pre tax equivalent. Zalgiris doesn't have the deepest pockets, but it would be nice to see him stay there. Unfortunately other EL clubs can easily outbid them if they want him.

Jstock12
12-08-2017, 01:02 PM
His contract runs out this year so he should get a nice bump in pay (maybe up to $1M USD equivalent) - it think he is at about 250K euros after tax, which is about $550K USD pre tax equivalent. Zalgiris doesn't have the deepest pockets, but it would be nice to see him stay there. Unfortunately other EL clubs can easily outbid them if they want him.

For sure. I really doubt Kevin stays with us. At this point Zalgiris is getting known for helping foreign players show themselves to the best teams in the Euroleague and get bigger contracts. Good foreign players usually don't stay here for more than 2 years. Hopefully we can grab NWG for the next season. His market value shouldn't be too high just yet. :D

Jstock12
12-14-2017, 10:46 AM
Pangos!!!

22 points (9/12 FG, 4/5 3PT, 0/2 FT), 7 assists and 2 rebounds in the Zalgiris win against the reigning Euroleague champions Fenerbahce Istanbul!

ZagNative
12-14-2017, 10:59 AM
Wow! Box Score. (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=90&seasoncode=E2017#!boxscore)


BC Zalgiris Kaunas‏Verified account @bczalgiris

Halftime @FBBasketbol - #Zalgiris 42:41. @KPangos scores 12 of his 14 points in the second quarter! Also @toups_33 is balling strong with 9 points and 5 rebounds. Exciting game in #Istanbul vs @EuroLeague champs!

#ManoKomanda #MyTeam #FBDZAL

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRBwAIdW4AAIYoY.jpg

Mojo13
12-14-2017, 11:43 AM
Pangos!!!

22 points (9/12 FG, 4/5 3PT, 0/2 FT), 7 assists and 2 rebounds in the Zalgiris win against the reigning Euroleague champions Fenerbahce Istanbul!


He is starting to make me think he is a top 3 PG in the EuroLeague

ZagNative
12-14-2017, 11:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSx-vdLYQn4&feature=em-uploademail

Jstock12
12-14-2017, 01:09 PM
He is starting to make me think he is a top 3 PG in the EuroLeague

Not a crazy statement at all. He's been phenomenal.

ZagNative
12-14-2017, 01:29 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRCYcmjX4AA_p1s.jpg

OZZY
12-14-2017, 03:17 PM
And to think that he missed the last two free throws......

A career 83% free throw shooter.

Bogozags
12-15-2017, 12:10 PM
Boy, he looks so ripped...I bet his BF is under 8%...I wonder what kind of diet he is on...

GonzagasaurusFlex
12-15-2017, 04:23 PM
Boy, he looks so ripped...I bet his BF is under 8%...I wonder what kind of diet he is on...

Exactly what I thought after seeing this pic Bogo. Pangos is one determined, disciplined, hard working baller pursuing his dreams. I hope to see him in the NBA someday but carving out a professional career in Europe is equally worthy of respect and admiration.

webspinnre
12-15-2017, 09:22 PM
Exactly what I thought after seeing this pic Bogo. Pangos is one determined, disciplined, hard working baller pursuing his dreams. I hope to see him in the NBA someday but carving out a professional career in Europe is equally worthy of respect and admiration.

If he can continue to play like this, he's going to make a good deal of money playing in Europe.

Mojo13
12-18-2017, 01:04 PM
If he can continue to play like this, he's going to make a good deal of money playing in Europe.

And even if he could make an NBA roster - it is very possible that he could make more in the EuroLeague.

He is a FA this summer so it is great to see him playing like this. I'd put him above certain Canadian NBA guards (Ennis, Stuaskas) if I was selecting the hypothetical best roster for Team Canada right now.

Jstock12
12-19-2017, 11:02 AM
Pangos with 11 points (4/6 FG, 1/3 3PT, 2/2 FT), 6 assists & 4 rebounds in Zalgiris win against the German Euroleague team Brose Bamberg.

Jstock12
12-21-2017, 01:01 PM
Another win for Zalgiris, improving to 9-5. Not the best game for Kevin though, mostly due to early foul trouble. Ended up with 3 points, 2 assists, 2 steals and 2 rebounds in 16 minutes.

Next Euroleague game vs Olympiacos... Pangos vs Wiltjer!

Jstock12
12-22-2017, 03:36 AM
Pangos is definitely going to get paid next season. Apparently, Barcelona has already contacted Zalgiris inquiring about a possible buyout, but got rejected. Despite having a terrible season, Barcelona is still one of the powerhouses of the European basketball. I lived there for a while, and I can say the city is amazing too.

Zagdawg
12-25-2017, 07:54 AM
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Reports last week that Barcelona attempted to purchase Kevin Pangos from Zalgiris and were rebuffed strongly by Coach Saras. Then Zalgiris signs Beno Udrih today. So second thoughts on KP? Or they doubling down on their best EuroLeague season in years? The latter I think.

Jstock12
12-25-2017, 06:18 PM
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Reports last week that Barcelona attempted to purchase Kevin Pangos from Zalgiris and were rebuffed strongly by Coach Saras. Then Zalgiris signs Beno Udrih today. So second thoughts on KP? Or they doubling down on their best EuroLeague season in years? The latter I think.

According to the Lithuanian news site, Kevin was involved into that decision and he wasn't interested in leaving in the middle of the season. Although that might be speculation.

Jstock12
12-28-2017, 02:04 AM
Pangos vs Wiltjer tonight!

Jstock12
12-28-2017, 10:54 AM
Zalgiris beats Olympiacos :D 5 wins in a row. I'm in shock. The duo of Jasikevicius' coaching and Pangos' leadership is unbelievable.

ZagNative
12-28-2017, 11:29 AM
great job, Kevin!

Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=116&seasoncode=E2017)


Experts Round Table: Round 15 (http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/8fhy6c8b8x9fnofw/experts-round-table-round-15)

3. Which player has surprised you most in the first half of the season?

Manuel Moreno

It's not easy to stand out in a competition the level of the EuroLeague, both at the team and individual levels. Only the well-known and established ones can achieve that, and we all know who they are. Among surprises I would point at Zalgiris Kaunas as a team - currently fifth with nine wins - and its player Kevin Pangos as the product of the philosophy imposed by Saras Jasikevicius. Pangos grew up at Gonzaga University and played in the Spanish League with Gran Canaria, but he didn't shine properly until this season, at 24 years old. His 11.9 points (with a 46.7% on two-point shots and 50% on threes) and his 5.5 assists made him an unexpected Zalgiris leader and a nightmare for opposing defenses. And he's also a surprise in this season's EuroLeague. A player to follow.

Matjaz Smodis

For me the surprise is Kevin Pangos, who is playing great under Sarunas Jaskevicius. I didn’t expect Zalgiris to be playing so well, though I imagine that only a few did. Pangos is definitely the main reason why. He is not the only player on the team enjoying a breakout season, however, Pangos is on the floor more than any Zalgiris player and is getting it done as a passer, penetrator and shooter. Fourteen games is no small number, but the real test will be to see if Pangos can continue at this level when he faces teams a second time. If he can, it will be a special season for him and Zalgiris.

Massimo Oriani

Kevin Pangos is not a name that is mentioned often enough. He definitely benefits from playing in a fantastic system like the one that Saras Jasikevicius has created in Kaunas, but one does what he is asked to do and Kevin is doing exactly that. He’s the maestro that directs the orchestra with the musical score provided by Saras. Now he will have some help with the arrival of Beno Udrih at his side, giving Zalgiris the chance to elevate even more its already stunning (maybe not so much, we must give credit to Jasikevicius and his players rather than be shocked by the fact that they are ahead of teams with much bigger budgets) results. Pangos is not a flashy player, but he fits the role perfectly.

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/8fj9p6lfbfi3xco5/937feb75-0281-4437-b564-2f06b73a9baa/cc5/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb17.jpg

ZagNative
12-28-2017, 11:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3QEoEw5dT4&feature=em-uploademail

sittingon50
12-28-2017, 12:19 PM
great job, Kevin!

Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=116&seasoncode=E2017)



http://www.euroleague.net/rs/8fj9p6lfbfi3xco5/937feb75-0281-4437-b564-2f06b73a9baa/cc5/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb17.jpg

Nice find Native!

OZZY
12-28-2017, 04:46 PM
Zalgiris beats Olympiacos :D 5 wins in a row. I'm in shock. The duo of Jasikevicius' coaching and Pangos' leadership is unbelievable.

Yes, I see this is a great part of the success for both Zalgiris and Kevin.

It will be interesting to see if he stays on even if the money is not as good...

Jstock12
12-29-2017, 03:57 AM
Yes, I see this is a great part of the success for both Zalgiris and Kevin.

It will be interesting to see if he stays on even if the money is not as good...

I've already made peace with the thought of Kevin leaving after this season, and that's alright. After all, Zalgiris has the 2nd smallest budget in all of Euroleague. We just won't be able to afford him after this season. And while Kaunas is a nice city, it's not nearly as glamorous as Barcelona, Madrid or Istanbul. The Kevin from this season is one of the best foreign players we have ever had, and I'm grateful for that. However, if Kevin and Jasikevicius do both leave, I hope they both go to Barcelona and continue their partnership there. As mentioned before, hopefully we can sign NWG in the meantime to replace Kevin :D

OZZY
12-31-2017, 06:43 PM
Hi Jstock

What do you make of the signing of Beno Udrih by Zalgiris?

With Kevin obviously having the confidence of his coach as the #1 PG, is Beno (having been an NBA point guard) coming in to replace Dee Bost as Kevin's back up?

What about Vasilije Micic who has played pretty well in the same position (especially when up against opposition taller PG) when asked....

Jstock12
01-01-2018, 01:00 PM
Hi Jstock

What do you make of the signing of Beno Udrih by Zalgiris?

With Kevin obviously having the confidence of his coach as the #1 PG, is Beno (having been an NBA point guard) coming in to replace Dee Bost as Kevin's back up?

What about Vasilije Micic who has played pretty well in the same position (especially when up against opposition taller PG) when asked....

Kevin will remain the starter and I don't really think it will affect his minutes at all. More likely, it's our 22-year old Valinskas whose minutes will be cut. Udrih will be coming off the bench and provide some stability and veteran leadership. Dee Bost just didn't fit in at all here, and while Micic is good, he's very inconsistent and is prone to some wild/stupid plays at times (which is to be expected of such a young player).

Kong-Kool-Aid
01-06-2018, 02:09 PM
So, will Pangos be squaring off against the Ball Brothers at some point?

Jstock12
01-08-2018, 08:00 AM
So, will Pangos be squaring off against the Ball Brothers at some point?

February 4th. Although not sure how likely it is for the Balls to get playing time against a team like Zalgiris.

Mojo13
01-08-2018, 08:56 AM
February 4th. Although not sure how likely it is for the Balls to get playing time against a team like Zalgiris.


I'm not sure about that. Vytautas seems much more interested in selling tickets than winning.
They supposedly pulled out of the Baltic League (the 2nd tier league they play in besides the Lithuanian League) in order to play a number of "Friendlys" at home so the Balls can play.

First game since the Balls arrived they rolled out a roster of 8 against Lietuvos Rytas (second best Lithunania team after Zalgiris) and lost 113-56. Why wouldnt you play the Balls anyways? Maybe just to save therm from embarrassment.

Vytautas seems a struggling, joke of a team and is just doing this out of desperation for money. Since the Balls signing their games have supposedly all sold out (don't know if this is true). I can see opposing teams/players being paid to purposely not guard the Balls to let them get their stats in the "friendlys" so Lavar can crow about it, thus upping their stock. Something very 2017-2021 post-truth world about it. Whoever screams the loudest wins with attention/pageviews/impressions and thus money. A interesting symptom in the microcosm of sports of the debilitating disease the world is suffering in the social media age.

Jstock12
01-08-2018, 12:44 PM
I'm not sure about that. Vytautas seems much more interested in selling tickets than winning.
They supposedly pulled out of the Baltic League (the 2nd tier league they play in besides the Lithuanian League) in order to play a number of "Friendlys" at home so the Balls can play.

First game since the Balls arrived they rolled out a roster of 8 against Lietuvos Rytas (second best Lithunania team after Zalgiris) and lost 113-56. Why wouldnt you play the Balls anyways? Maybe just to save therm from embarrassment.

Vytautas seems a struggling, joke of a team and is just doing this out of desperation for money. Since the Balls signing their games have supposedly all sold out (don't know if this is true). I can see opposing teams/players being paid to purposely not guard the Balls to let them get their stats in the "friendlys" so Lavar can crow about it, thus upping their stock. Something very 2017-2021 post-truth world about it. Whoever screams the loudest wins with attention/pageviews/impressions and thus money. A interesting symptom in the microcosm of sports of the debilitating disease the world is suffering in the social media age.

You're right about Vytautas really wanting to cash in on this marketing opportunity. Thinking about it some more, there's probably no reason why they wouldn't get SOME playing time in a home game. But I think Vytautas wants to be at least somewhat competitive in the LKL. They have just signed another foreign player - Kervin Bristol. That was no doubt made possible by the profits from signing the Ball brothers.

Jstock12
01-12-2018, 10:26 AM
Pangos might be in the top5 of my favorite Zalgiris players ever. Maybe even top3, up there with the likes of Arvydas Sabonis. He's just incredible. The way he navigates in open & tight spaces, the way he's using angles, setting up teammates, shooting from long range and finishing around the rim. Also super humble and bright. If he ever shows up on my doorstep here in Lithuania lost and mugged, I'll give him all the money I have on me at the time.

ZagNative
01-12-2018, 11:04 AM
Pangos might be in the top5 of my avorite Zalgiris players ever. Maybe even top3, up there with the likes of Arvydas Sabonis. He's just incredible. The way he navigates in open & tight spaces, the way he's using angles, setting up teammates, shooting from long range and finishing around the rim. Also super humble and bright. If he ever shows up on my doorstep here in Lithuania lost and mugged, I'll give him all the money I have on me at the time.Priceless!

Kevin's Zalgris just took down Unicaja Malaga 7977 in a cliff-hanger Euroleague game, Kev with 16 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, and just 2 TOs, before fouling out in the closing minutes of the game.

Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=136&seasoncode=E2017#!boxscore)

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/8gpsib5jjepq4y5s/937feb75-0281-4437-b564-2f06b73a9baa/86e/filename/kevin-pangos-zalgiris-kaunas-eb17.jpg

ZagNative
01-12-2018, 11:20 AM
It would be a blast to be able to see Kevin play in Zalgris home stadium!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE3rsKFn37M

ZagNative
01-12-2018, 11:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNMyTbmALhg

ZagNative
01-12-2018, 11:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1nmSjeF5r4

Zagceo
01-12-2018, 10:32 PM
Thx ZN

Nice to see Kevin playing in front of big crowds

Jstock12
01-18-2018, 09:40 AM
Pangos has 10 assists in the 2nd quarter (!!!) in the game against Valencia. He's on pace to set the Euroleague record. The record to beat is 15 assists.

Jstock12
01-18-2018, 10:48 AM
Pangos has 10 assists in the 2nd quarter (!!!) in the game against Valencia. He's on pace to set the Euroleague record. The record to beat is 15 assists.

Kevin ends up with 11 points & 15 assists, tying the Euroleague record.

Mojo13
01-18-2018, 10:55 AM
Kevin ends up with 11 points & 15 assists, tying the Euroleague record.

Third all time right? Or is this not accurate?
http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics?mode=Records&entity=Players&seasonmode=All&g=SingleGame&cat=Assistances&agg=Accumulated

Regardless it was a great game for KP. Any critique I see of him is that he is more a "system guy" and better as a spot up shooter who doesn't create well enough as a PG. Yaaaa....I'm not so sure about that!

I hope people here appreciate how good KP is playing and how much he has improved. Maybe the best Zag of all time never to play in the NBA (yet)?
He is clearly better than many players in the NBA right now. I'd take him in second over Tyler Ennis for Team Canada - no hesitation. Nik Stauskas too for that matter (but different positions).

Jstock12
01-18-2018, 11:32 AM
Third all time right? Or is this not accurate?
http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics?mode=Records&entity=Players&seasonmode=All&g=SingleGame&cat=Assistances&agg=Accumulated

Regardless it was a great game for KP. Any critique I see of him is that he is more a "system guy" and better as a spot up shooter who doesn't create well enough as a PG. Yaaaa....I'm not so sure about that!

I hope people here appreciate how good KP is playing and how much he has improved. Maybe the best Zag of all time never to play in the NBA (yet)?
He is clearly better than many players in the NBA right now. I'd take him in second over Tyler Ennis for Team Canada - no hesitation. Nik Stauskas too for that matter (but different positions).

My bad! The website I was checking out had an outdated database. Yup, Kevin could definitely be a role player in the NBA, at the very least a 3rd string PG. But who knows, maybe even a backup PG for a non-contending team.

ZagNative
01-18-2018, 11:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIfxLW7qZKE

ZagNative
02-01-2018, 11:07 AM
Kevin with another stellar performance as Zalgris takes down Maccabi Fox Tel Aviv 99-84 in Euroleague. Kevin with 16 points and 11 assists!

Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=165&seasoncode=E2017#!boxscore)

Mojo13
02-01-2018, 11:46 AM
Kevin with another stellar performance as Zalgris takes down Maccabi Fox Tel Aviv 99-84 in Euroleague. Kevin with 16 points and 11 assists!

Box Score (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=165&seasoncode=E2017#!boxscore)

On 6/8 shooting no less.
He is now second in the league in total assists and assists per game (6.43) with most of the top 15 being former NBA veterans (names like De Colo, Calthes, Huertel, Shved, Rodriguez, Sloukas). He might be the youngest in the top 15 as well (besides Luka Doncic who is a 2018 top 5 draft pick)
I'm starting to believe the hype that he will get serious looks from NBA teams this summer. He sure is looking like a #2 PG in the NBA.

ZagNative
02-01-2018, 11:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv6rRm4X2DM

sittingon50
02-01-2018, 11:56 AM
Thanks (again) Native.

OZZY
02-01-2018, 12:34 PM
Thanks for all your sleuth work ZN.

This has been such a great season for Kevin enjoying every report and highlight.

In order for KP to succeed in the NBA it will need to be the right coach / right team.

He will always have some physical limitations, but this year especially he is playing to his strengths. His craftiness and vision is top shelf.

Perhaps Miami or SA might be interested after this year.

ZagNative
02-01-2018, 12:55 PM
Game story (http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=165&seasoncode=E2017#!report):
Pangos leads Zalgiris past Maccabi

Zalgiris Kaunas got back to its winnings ways, defeating visiting Maccabi FOX Tel Aviv 99-84 in Zalgirio Arena on Thursday night. With the win Zalgiris improved to 13-8 for a share of at least fifth place in the standings, while Maccabi dropped to 11-10 in eighth place. Zalgiris led for the majority of the night, but pulled away for good with a 16-4 third-quarter run that opened a 16-point margin and the Lithuanian champs never looked back. Kevin Pangos led the way with 16 points and 11 assists and Paulius Jankunas eturned from injury to post 17 points and 7 rebounds. Axel Toupane added 15 points and Arturas Milaknis and Vasilije Micic scored 12 apiece in victory. Zalgiris set a club record with 29 assists and tied a record with 14 three-pointers. Michael Roll scored 17 for Maccabi, Artsiom Parakhousi collected 14 points and 7 rebounds and DeShaun Thomas, Jonah Bolden and Pierre Jackson each got 12 points in defeat.

After a pair of put-backs by Bolden, Toupane scored from long and close range to give Zalgiris an early lead. Roll and Jankunas traded baseline jumpers, before another corner three from Toupane opened a 14-8 margin. Maccabi went to the foul line often and Thomas and Norris Cole scored from close range, but Aaron White hit a corner triple, Toupane added a three-point play and Micic had a three-pointer that helped the hosts stay in front. Milaknis finished the first quarter with a fastbreak layup to make it 26-20 after 10 minutes. Milaknis hit three triples in as many attempts in a span of less than two minutes to start the second quarter, extending the margin to 37-23. Maccabi got back into it behind 6 points from Parakhouski, and with Jackson, Roll, Bolden and John DiBartolomeo making 12 of 13 free throws and cutting the deficit to 47-41. But Pangos made a transition triple and Zalgiris led 53-46 at halftime.

Maccabi missed all 8 three-point attempts in the first half, but Bolden and Jackson hit back-to-back threes in the early going of the third quarter to close the deficit to 55-54. Zalgiris bettered that with Edgaras Ulanovas, Pangos and Jankunas hitting triples on three consecutive possessions for a 64-58 advantage. A pair of baskets from Antanas Kavaliauskas continued the run before a runner from Pangos helped re-open a double-digit lead, 71-58. Pangos continued orchestrating things, finding Micic for an open corner three, and Brandon Davies dished to White, whose big dunk extended the lead to 76-60 with one minute left in the third. The hosts led 76-62 going into the fourth quarter and Toupane with a driving layup and Jankunas with a jumper helped keep Zalgiris in control. After Parakhouski made an alley-oop layup, Pangos replied with a runner. After Roll hit a triple to cut it to 87-75, Micic answered right back with a three of his own and Zalgiris cruised the rest of the way.

webspinnre
02-02-2018, 07:29 AM
It has been absolutely amazing what Kevin has done. Love seeing all of these updates. Between him and NWG, Zags point guards are killing it abroad.

Jstock12
02-02-2018, 08:37 AM
Kevin ranks 4th in the whole Euroleague for three-pointers made, shooting them at a scorching 48.04% :) Also, 2nd in assists per game, and 4th in assists per 40 minutes.

ZagNative
02-02-2018, 11:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhUd5XEXbVE

NontradZag
02-02-2018, 02:08 PM
Steve Kerr-esque. Pop once the defender sags and shoot lights out.


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sittingon50
02-02-2018, 08:53 PM
Enjoyed those highlights!

Jstock12
02-04-2018, 06:23 AM
Zalgiris vs Vytautas is on. Pangos vs Ball brothers.

Stream:
http://www.lkl.lt/rungtynes/108
or ballislife page on Facebook

Mojo13
02-05-2018, 08:53 AM
Live stream available here on the official page of the Lithuanian Basketball League: http://new.lkl.lt/rungtynes/2

JStock - you gotta give me some intel here. The Ball boys put up 44 combined points on Zalgiris, mostly through raining threes, lead their team in scoring and helped put up the most points on Zalgiris on the season.

Now I know Zalgiris (like most EL teams playing low level domestic league teams) didnt try too hard, rested their starters by playing them about 50% their normal minutes and probably rotated some junior teams guys in. But still.... these were EL pros playing a dog#### team. Zalgiris's bench should have crushed them by 50.

you watch the game? what happened? Zalgiris just not care after driving up a big lead and most of the Balls points came in garbage time? Or are the Balls <cough, hack, cough>.... maybe, sort of... good?

Jstock12
02-09-2018, 04:33 AM
JStock - you gotta give me some intel here. The Ball boys put up 44 combined points on Zalgiris, mostly through raining threes, lead their team in scoring and helped put up the most points on Zalgiris on the season.

Now I know Zalgiris (like most EL teams playing low level domestic league teams) didnt try too hard, rested their starters by playing them about 50% their normal minutes and probably rotated some junior teams guys in. But still.... these were EL pros playing a dog#### team. Zalgiris's bench should have crushed them by 50.

you watch the game? what happened? Zalgiris just not care after driving up a big lead and most of the Balls points came in garbage time? Or are the Balls <cough, hack, cough>.... maybe, sort of... good?

:D

Let me start by saying that LaMelo Ball is certainly an NBA prospect. He could even be a first round caliber prospect. And while LiAngelo is nowhere near in terms of talent, he's got a strong matured body and knows what he does best and tries to accentuate it as much as possible. These guys are quite underrated because of their father's antics, as well as being in the shadow of their oldest brother.

Secondly, the game didn't feel like a real game. It seemed that Zalgiris were content with playing Vytautas style of basketball with no defense, and just tried to outscore them. Obviously, the fact that Sajus, Masiulis and Valinskas got a combined 50 minutes of playing time is telling. Also,the additions of Kervin Bristol and Rashaun Brodus (who were acquired thanks to the revenue Vytautas received because of this Ball 'era') can't be overlooked. They provide some much needed strength/athleticism on the defensive end.

Lastly, it was a pretty hot shooting day for Vytautas (19/47 from three). And despite all of this, the game really never felt close.

Jstock12
02-09-2018, 09:22 AM
Pangos with 12 points in the very first quarter against Khimki Moscow. :D

OZZY
02-28-2018, 12:28 PM
Interesting KP interview with EuroBasket's MILES SCHMIDT-SCHEUBER.

http://www.eurobasket.com/Germany/news/524517/Kevin-Pangos-(B.C.Zalgiris-Kaunas)-Winning-Is-The-Most-Important-Aspect-Of-Being-A-Great-Point-Guard

ZagNative
02-28-2018, 12:49 PM
That was a fun read, Ozzy. Thanks for posting the link.

sittingon50
02-28-2018, 08:40 PM
Thanks Ozzy.