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Birddog
04-14-2015, 04:18 PM
Many have written on this forum about how great it is to play overseas. Not NBA great, but pretty darn good none the less. I was poking around the interweb looking for contract info when I ran across these links which tell stories of richly rewarding experiences albeit not necessarily financially rewarding. There is some good stuff here. What I have found is that only the top 60 or so players earn salaries close to mid level NBA players but I am still looking.


“Because, Paul,” someone said. “If we let anyone get into the back of the plane without the weight of our biggest players in front, the plane will tip over backwards.”

And with that, my eyes went wide and my mouth went shut. I got on the plane, sat exactly where I was told, and hoped that, someday, I’d make it back to the NBA.


Read more at http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2011/10/19/playing-in-europe/#VKXgbRvSH45v1HXy.99


Middleton was relaxing when he was jolted by the sound of glass shattering. He looked up and the windows all around him were shattering. Fans of Olympiacos — undeterred, apparently, by the police escort leading the Panathinaikos bus — were hurling large rocks.

“There was blood everywhere, all over the seats and the floor,” Middleton said, adding that a half-dozen of his teammates ended up in the hospital. “It was crazy — fans threw coins and things at us during games, but I’d never seen boulders coming through the windows of a bus.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/13/sports/basketball/the-basketball-players-guide-to-the-european-galaxy.html

75Zag
04-14-2015, 05:40 PM
With the financial meltdown of 2007-11, a lot of foreign opportunities went away or became risky from a financial standpoint. Even now playing for teams in Greece, Spain, Portugal or various Eastern European countries represents a risky financial decision for young players. The best represented players get financial guarantees (cash up front or US bank-backed letters of credit), but if a player is too demanding regarding financial guarantees, many of the teams will pass over that player and choose somebody who is less well represented or who is more desperate to play. Several former GU players have been burned and not received substantial portions of their promised salaries. Playing in Europe remains a great option for players who are not NBA material, but there are lots of things to consider.

Go Bulldogs!

CDC84
04-14-2015, 06:02 PM
It's worked out very well for JP Batista. I believe at one point he was making $500,000+ or so per year with some of his living expenses paid for by his team. It just depends on the player and the situation. You certainly don't want to assume anything.

webspinnre
04-14-2015, 07:36 PM
And depends strongly on the country, and even which team within each country. Definitely can be a minefield, particularly in eastern europe.

ZagNative
04-14-2015, 08:41 PM
It's worked out very well for JP Batista. I believe at one point he was making $500,000+ or so per year with some of his living expenses paid for by his team. It just depends on the player and the situation. You certainly don't want to assume anything.I don't know your source, or the timing for the info, but according to this story, (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsport24.lefigaro.fr%2Fbasket%2Fdiap oramas%2Fpro-a-le-top-10-des-joueurs-les-mieux-payes%2Fjp-batista-le-mans)JP was recently making 170,000 Euros, which I believe was the highest salary for a player in Pro A in France. He was with LeMans at the time but has moved on to Limoges after several years at LeMans. LeMans recently honored him by retiring his number.

I know that Steven Gray's wife has been frustrated with the sometimes slow pay habits of his Dijon team this season, despite the fact he is currently the second highest scorer in Pro A in France.

hooter73
04-14-2015, 09:05 PM
Ive heard the same reports of unpaid checks. Whats more, in todays day and age, I cant help but wonder about the safety of Americans going to play for teams overseas, especially Isreal, traveling to other potentially unstable countries.

CDC84
04-15-2015, 12:51 AM
I don't know your source, or the timing for the info

It was from awhile back......in the days when he used to play with Lietuvos Rytas. Info came from someone who knew him. Not sure of the exact dollar amount, but it was definitely more than he is apparently making now...plus the team paid for his abode, his car and other goodies. It was a nice set up.

As 75Zag mentioned, some things have changed since 2007.

I wonder how much Pargo made out of his 2 year contract CSKA Moscow. It was a 2 year deal for 5.2 million, but he only played one season before going back to Israel in the summer of 2014.

Zach Gourde mentioned one time that the toughest thing about playing in Europe is not being able to get a hot plate of Mexican food. Tacos!

Birddog
04-15-2015, 03:58 AM
Ive heard the same reports of unpaid checks. Whats more, in todays day and age, I cant help but wonder about the safety of Americans going to play for teams overseas, especially Isreal, traveling to other potentially unstable countries.

Safety concerns can be very real in some countries but Israel is actually one of the safest at least according to Gottlieb who played in Israel and Russia. There are safety concerns while playing too, with crazy fans in the stands.


Nowhere was this passion more evident than during basketball games, where fans were known to aim leftover drachma coins at opposing players and where, during games between the two largest teams in the country – Olympiacos and Panathinaikos – fans would bring Roman candles into the arena and shoot them at their counterparts across the court.
Read more at http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2011/10/19/playing-in-europe/#HWtSzqrBT4ygKZeU.99