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Zagger
01-21-2015, 07:19 AM
Will Gonzaga Run The Table?
Andy Katz and Adrian Branch discuss the odds that Gonzaga will win each of its remaining games this season.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/ - Scroll down a wee bit and you'll see the video (it has an image of Mt. K & Don'tmiss).
Looks like the Zags' chances are better than any other team per ESPN's computations. Good for the Zags! (Maybe not so good for the WCC).

cjm720
01-21-2015, 07:31 AM
Yes and then hopefully 6 more.

Kiddwell
01-21-2015, 07:37 AM
Fun to watch. Not too long ago Kiddwell thought BYU would "run the table" in the WCC (save for its games vs. GU). Well, that went up in smoke twice since. Still like GU's chances to do so, though. And if GU does "run the table," then we're a No. 1 Seed. :adored:

Now, if Saint Mary's and Pepperdine would beef up their OOC's and nail down some solid wins there, then Katz and Branch wouldn't be so dismissive of the WCC. (Maybe next year.) :pray:

Final thought: BYU was soooo close to beating San Diego State in Hawaii (and would've, had the refs called an obvious late foul against Haws). With that win they'd probably played Arizona for the championship and, win or lose, helped the WCC's rep.

:]

HenneZag
01-21-2015, 07:56 AM
Gonzaga running the table is a possibility, but I think we drop a game at worst 2. SM will be a tough test tomorrow and even tougher in there house. BYU is scramble mode and will be playing with their backs against the wall, the good thing with BYU is we get that at home. Can't forget Pepperdine.

As crazy as it sounds and I will probably get crap for this, is it may be good to lose a game at this point in the season, I know I know. I think losing a game kind of takes pressure off sometimes and resets a mentality for a team. The problem with that is we play in the WCC and it will hurt our seeding, so a double edge sword.

I see a 1 seed being tough to get. If we can get a 2,3 seed with a favorable matchup and play out west that is all I want. I really hope Perkins can come back before season ends but that's looking grim with each passing day, so I hope EM is the spark we need to get this team to another level.

HenneZag
01-21-2015, 08:01 AM
Fun to watch. Not too long ago Kiddwell thought BYU would "run the table" in the WCC (save for its games vs. GU). Well, that went up in smoke twice since. Still like GU's chances to do so, though. And if GU does "run the table," then we're a No. 1 Seed. :adored:

Now, if Saint Mary's and Pepperdine would beef up their OOC's and nail down some solid wins there, then Katz and Branch wouldn't be so dismissive of the WCC. (Maybe next year.) :pray:

Final thought: BYU was soooo close to beating San Diego State in Hawaii (and would've, had the refs called an obvious late foul against Haws). With that win they'd probably played Arizona for the championship and, win or lose, helped the WCC's rep.

:]

BYU is a frustrating team to follow. So much offensive talent, but haven't been able to close out and finish close games. They are underrated IMO. If they would have beat SDSU who knows what happens vs AZ. They are in need of a big man, if they had that they would be a different team.

CDC84
01-21-2015, 08:02 AM
One thing that is hampering BYU are injury issues.

Mr Vulture
01-21-2015, 09:10 AM
I don't think Gonzaga runs the table the rest of the year. There are teams in this league that can beat us and we are bound to have a game where things just don't go well. Now, I don't think we lose more than 1 or 2 the rest of the way, if that.

TheGonzagaFactor
01-21-2015, 09:18 AM
BYU is a frustrating team to follow. So much offensive talent, but haven't been able to close out and finish close games. They are underrated IMO. If they would have beat SDSU who knows what happens vs AZ. They are in need of a big man, if they had that they would be a different team.

They lost to Purdue in that tournament, so what makes you think they would've beaten Pitt in the semis even if they did beat that overrated SDSU team? AZ would've blown BYU out of the water...

DixieZag
01-21-2015, 09:20 AM
I think we can win out but I don't think it is 50-50. We have 2 against SMC (though I think we win here), one against BYU (I think we win), and then some other "creepy" games that in the past have been tough. We also have our tournament we might look ahead a bit and SMC/BYU/Pepp playing to extend the season.

Problem is, I worry we're a 4 seed if we lose b/c of who we might lose to. Something to think about. We can't fall back on a sched like 2013 team, where we can afford another loss and be in the 2/1 seed contention. But, I don't know what I'm talking about, so, there's that.

gonzagafan62
01-21-2015, 09:21 AM
They lost to Purdue in that tournament, so what makes you think they would've beaten Pitt in the semis even if they did beat that overrated SDSU team? AZ would've blown BYU out of the water...

Every game causes different matchup problems for different teams. I wouldn't be too sure of that.

HenneZag
01-21-2015, 09:58 AM
[QUOTE=TheGonzagaFactor;1074318]They lost to Purdue in that tournament, so what makes you think they would've beaten Pitt in the semis even if they did beat that overrated SDSU team? AZ would've blown BYU out of the water...[/QUOTE

I don't know what would have happend. I don't compare teams solely on wins and losses, it's also about matchups and style of play. Consistency will eventually show itself throughout the year. BYU has had some tight games and have the ability to be dangerous on any given night. I would take the top 4 teams in the WCC and we could hold our own against stiff competition, jmo. The WCC doesn't get respect and it's easy for most just to say that BYU or whoever would have been blown out of the water just because that's the easy choice. I on the other hand see it differently and think BYU has a solid squad that can hold its own against most teams in the country, and a couple more wins from them would have been nice for the WCC.

seacatfan
01-21-2015, 10:16 AM
BYU lost a close game (65-61) against Utah, game was at BYU. Utah is tied for Pac 12 lead and getting lots of respect this year.

LongIslandZagFan
01-21-2015, 10:46 AM
No... they won't run the table. I expect at least one road loss... namely in Moraga.

hondo
01-21-2015, 10:51 AM
I don't think many of these writers fully understand the intensity of resentment toward any team that has been on top for so long. That feeling is a great tool for getting very average teams to play with their hair on fire 2 or 3 time a year. Ranked at #3 the Zags now have an even bigger target on their back. That coupled with the fact that we sometimes take our foot off the gas pedal makes any prediction risky. Are the Zags better than anyone left of the schedule? Yes. Do really strange things happen on the road? Yes

Zagceo
01-21-2015, 10:55 AM
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ZagMan in Philly
01-21-2015, 11:46 AM
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I like!

gonzagafan62
01-21-2015, 11:56 AM
No... they won't run the table. I expect at least one road loss... namely in Moraga.

So far you have predicted us to lose at least 120-40 each game. One of these times you'll get a prediction right. :roll:

But not this one. We're going to beat them in Moraga. Running the table.

TheGonzagaFactor
01-21-2015, 12:42 PM
BYU lost a close game (65-61) against Utah, game was at BYU. Utah is tied for Pac 12 lead and getting lots of respect this year.


...and got blown out by 20 against Arizona :p

TheGonzagaFactor
01-21-2015, 12:42 PM
I don't think many of these writers fully understand the intensity of resentment toward any team that has been on top for so long. That feeling is a great tool for getting very average teams to play with their hair on fire 2 or 3 time a year. Ranked at #3 the Zags now have an even bigger target on their back. That coupled with the fact that we sometimes take our foot off the gas pedal makes any prediction risky. Are the Zags better than anyone left of the schedule? Yes. Do really strange things happen on the road? Yes

Well said.

HenneZag
01-21-2015, 01:18 PM
...and got blown out by 20 against Arizona :p

So that means we would beat Utah by 17 since we lost to AZ by 3...? Its about matchups and style of play. Just cause another team beats a certain team by 20, its not certain we would do the same etc.

Maybe i'm trying to convince myself that BYU is better than they really are, idk. Anyways to each as own.

Go ZAGS!

gonzagafan62
01-21-2015, 01:23 PM
So that means we would beat Utah by 17 since we lost to AZ by 3...? Its about matchups and style of play. Just cause another team beats a certain team by 20, its not certain we would do the same etc.

Maybe i'm trying to convince myself that BYU is better than they really are, idk. Anyways to each as own.

Go ZAGS!

I totally agree. Take Gonzaga last year for instance. We absolutely drilled Saint Mary's the "supposed" 4th place team in the conference. . . . . . . . We have to escape with our lives against Santa Clara TWICE in the same year (#9 in conference).... But we drilled Waldow three times.

Its all about matchups. Until we see the game, none of us have a clue what would happen in a BYU vs Arizona game.

ZagaZags
01-21-2015, 01:38 PM
GU is going to run the table. I don't think losing a game will help them prepare for March Madness, although the close game in Malibu helped them a ton. I wouldn't mind seeing a few more close games. JMO

Kiddwell
01-21-2015, 01:51 PM
They lost to Purdue in that tournament, so what makes you think they would've beaten Pitt in the semis even if they did beat that overrated SDSU team? AZ would've blown BYU out of the water...

BYU lost in double OT to San Diego State, if memory serves; and in OT to Purdue. Just figure BYU was really close both times so had a good chance to make it to the finals. :boxing:


:]

TravelinZag
01-22-2015, 03:21 AM
Yes. Do Kentucky, Vlirginia and other teams with fewer than four losses run the table? Because the answer to that question will have great impact on the Zag's seed if they do drop a game.

LongIslandZagFan
01-22-2015, 03:59 AM
So far you have predicted us to lose at least 120-40 each game. One of these times you'll get a prediction right. :roll:

But not this one. We're going to beat them in Moraga. Running the table.

I have to predict those games as such... Silly superstition... yes... but it must be done.

Baseline
01-22-2015, 05:18 AM
YES!!!!!

ZagLawGrad
01-22-2015, 09:16 AM
If Zags can't run the table, then surrender that #3 ranking.

Next question.