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BobZag
12-02-2014, 09:52 AM
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GPGUgrad
12-02-2014, 04:39 PM
Go Zags!

Oregon Zag
12-02-2014, 04:46 PM
I was gonna bump the bunnies but I don't even see the thread.

jazzdelmar
12-02-2014, 04:52 PM
Getting nervous. No word yet. PM here too, pls.

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 05:04 PM
Apologies to Eminem, but "Would the real Kyle Wiljer please stand up, please stand-up."

Jazz - I'll try to help you out.

Others here, get on it too. Imagine being shut out of GU basketball.

kitzbuel
12-02-2014, 05:06 PM
Few hugging one of the refs before the game.

RenoZag
12-02-2014, 05:08 PM
Beverage. . .check
Sunflower seeds. . .check

Zags defensive stop. . .check

GU69
12-02-2014, 05:08 PM
Radio here: http://player.tritondigital.com/3151

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 05:09 PM
0-2

SE shot a 40 fter for the first possession
Got lucky on a tip the second
GU has had a bad shot and a to

kitzbuel
12-02-2014, 05:12 PM
SEL not even starting its offense until there are about 12 seconds on the shot clock. They are gonna limit possessions.

RenoZag
12-02-2014, 05:12 PM
I could see some of the WCC teams running a slow down game like this. . .

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 05:14 PM
We look like we want to play Arizona.

Just not into it at this point.

pass from Gary to Kevin on first possession would have been stolen easy

bballbeachbum
12-02-2014, 05:14 PM
Zags have given up 3 layups, 2 on put backs

nice to have the hometown voices calling the game or else I mute, first time this year actually listening to the game and not just watching it

gonzagafan62
12-02-2014, 05:16 PM
No help defense

Ekrub
12-02-2014, 05:17 PM
This is just sad

bballbeachbum
12-02-2014, 05:17 PM
make that 4 layups

gonzagafan62
12-02-2014, 05:18 PM
I'm getting nervous. Offensive foul. Here comes Melson... Maybe he wants to play

bballbeachbum
12-02-2014, 05:19 PM
5 layups, KP getting beat off the bounce and weak side help not there

bballbeachbum
12-02-2014, 05:20 PM
finally Nunez with the rim protection play. what a lousy start

gonzagafan62
12-02-2014, 05:21 PM
Nunez with a block. Finally some help defense

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 05:21 PM
5 layups, KP getting beat off the bounce and weak side help not there

That is the most concerning thing. It's pangos and then no one there.

And, as bad as our defense is - we look totally listless on offense.

They doubled St. Joes scoring in the whole half, or it seems like it.

Brutal.

Few needs to empty the bench and let them play hard.

raise the zag
12-02-2014, 05:22 PM
5 layups, KP getting beat off the bounce and weak side help not there

Is he OK?

From the first tip, I turned to ask my wife, "is Pangos favoring his left foot?"

Am I seeing things?

Pangos rarely, if ever, gets beat off first step dribble drives.

He looks slllloooowwww tonight. Some of those drives aren't even cross-overs.

After I mentioned he looked a step slower and gimpy, he's been burnt no less than 4 times.

Is he healthy?

bballbeachbum
12-02-2014, 05:23 PM
That is the most concerning thing. It's pangos and then no one there.

And, as bad as our defense is - we look totally listless on offense.

They doubled St. Joes scoring in the whole half, or it seems like it.

Brutal.

Few needs to empty the bench and let them play hard.

and let's stay in front of guys on the perimeter!

gonstu
12-02-2014, 05:24 PM
Garner Webb up 15-14 on Arizona

It's Bizarro World!!!!!

bballbeachbum
12-02-2014, 05:24 PM
Is he OK?

From the first tip, I turned to ask my wife, "is Pangos favoring his left foot?"

Am I seeing things?

Pangos rarely, if ever, gets beat off first step dribble drives.

He looks slllloooowwww tonight. Some of those drives aren't even cross-overs.

After I mentioned he looked a step slower and gimpy, he's been burnt no less than 4 times.

Is he healthy?

maybe man, sure flippin hope not

Ekrub
12-02-2014, 05:25 PM
Garner Webb up 15-14 on Arizona

It's Bizarro World!!!!!

Both teams looking past the cupcakes

bballbeachbum
12-02-2014, 05:25 PM
and now I must leave to go drive my kids here and there...arrggghhhh

Go Zags

gonstu
12-02-2014, 05:29 PM
and now I must leave to go drive my kids here and there...arrggghhhh

Go Zags

when you come back, we'll be up by 30...keep the faith!

gonzagafan62
12-02-2014, 05:29 PM
Ouch. The ball is bouncing bad so far tonight...

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 05:29 PM
That team has hit some tough shots, too.

Yeah, we gave up some gimmies but gotta give credit, they've hit some tough ones.

They are not intimidated.

I like them.

Drainginis - dumb turnover. Dribbled himself right into trouble, no need.

Oregon Zag
12-02-2014, 05:32 PM
I think Pangos can take over if he feels like he has to

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 05:33 PM
This team shot .228 from 3?

They hitting falling all over the place.

RenoZag
12-02-2014, 05:36 PM
Zay Jackson's career high is 25; he did that 11/26/14. . .

jazzdelmar
12-02-2014, 05:37 PM
panic over? guess KP is ok

gonzagafan62
12-02-2014, 05:38 PM
Very unfortunate and a bad call on sabonis

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 05:39 PM
BTW - not that I think it will happen, at all. But, the worst thing that can possibly happen is AZ losing tonight.

jazzdelmar
12-02-2014, 05:39 PM
Very unfortunate and a bad call on sabonis

i cant see the gm but im certain he reached over, rt?

Zippyzaggy
12-02-2014, 05:40 PM
Who are these Zag imposters & what fa foke have they done with our team?

Zippyzaggy
12-02-2014, 05:41 PM
actually no, just another one of those BS calls the refs enjoy stuffing up his...

Ekrub
12-02-2014, 05:42 PM
Wesley needs to take over. Enough of the Karnowski experiment

jazzdelmar
12-02-2014, 05:42 PM
they seem unstoppable

Zippyzaggy
12-02-2014, 05:42 PM
In other words...Sabonis didn't do anything.at.all. Thinking he's gonna lose it sometime soon.

1973Zag
12-02-2014, 05:42 PM
BTW - not that I think it will happen, at all. But, the worst thing that can possibly happen is AZ losing tonight.

The worst thing that could happen is we both lose tonight

RenoZag
12-02-2014, 05:43 PM
A tougher opponent than anyone expected. Might be better the Zags will have to work at this vs. phoning it in. . .?


Everytime Pangos hits the deck, I hold my breath

Zippyzaggy
12-02-2014, 05:43 PM
well hell, they destroyed NAIA Langston, they're a super power.

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 05:44 PM
The worst thing that could happen is we both lose tonight

Yeah, maybe. Although, if they lose maybe we should match them so we're equally pissed?

Nah, never mind.

Nice to get posterized in our own gym

jazzdelmar
12-02-2014, 05:45 PM
bad stat

Zippyzaggy
12-02-2014, 05:46 PM
Zona's gonna roll us by 40 if we can't get the heads out, and quick!

jazzdelmar
12-02-2014, 05:47 PM
clean slate 2d half.....

RenoZag
12-02-2014, 05:48 PM
Coach Daniels with the half-time comments. Not a happy camper either.

Zippyzaggy
12-02-2014, 05:48 PM
This team plays in front of what, 150 per game? Max seating is 500. Kinda comforting what with all this home intimidation & such.

kitzbuel
12-02-2014, 05:48 PM
KW gave away a couple of rebounds. He needs to hold onto those.

Ekrub
12-02-2014, 05:48 PM
The "feed karnowski" game plan has rarely worked out, especially against a team with any athleticism at all. Play to our strengths, and open up room for the post players.

jazzdelmar
12-02-2014, 05:49 PM
DS has 3 F's???????

RenoZag
12-02-2014, 05:49 PM
Arizona woke up. They lead 40-28 at the half.

hooter73
12-02-2014, 05:49 PM
Im so confused.

RenoZag
12-02-2014, 05:50 PM
DS has 3 F's???????

Yes.

U Zig, I Zag
12-02-2014, 05:50 PM
No toughness.

Sorry about the stream. For whatever reason, the capture card/ustream are not working well tonight. I'll mess with it sometime and hope to have it going for other games.

gonstu
12-02-2014, 05:50 PM
BTW - not that I think it will happen, at all. But, the worst thing that can possibly happen is AZ losing tonight.

That's not the worst thing that could happen...

basketballzag
12-02-2014, 05:50 PM
Bobzag didn't forewarn anyone about this game. LOL. Fear not SLU will implode in the second half as they have very little depth.

Zagceo
12-02-2014, 05:50 PM
Who is doing PP on TV?

zagamatic
12-02-2014, 05:50 PM
My bad, I forgot to put on my gameday hat til right before Pangos hit 3 to start the run @ about the 13 point mark.

RenoZag
12-02-2014, 05:52 PM
Who is doing PP on TV?

Heister, Dickau, Fox are in the booth

Zippyzaggy
12-02-2014, 05:52 PM
The "feed karnowski" game plan has rarely worked out, especially against a team with any athleticism at all. Play to our strengths, and open up room for the post players.

Karnowski can't hit those 1 footers & KW has to play Mr. put-backs and that leaves his free throw shooting....impressive future NBA'er indeed.

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 05:52 PM
The thing is, no excuse for that half, but that team hit some very tough shots that one would think will not be dropping all game.

kitzbuel
12-02-2014, 05:53 PM
The worst thing that could happen is we both lose tonight

Seems to be little risk of that right now. UA up by 12 at half.

U Zig, I Zag
12-02-2014, 05:56 PM
Presumably we wear them down and they stop hitting every shot (and we stop turning it over...).

But I will say, we look soft, soft, soft. Soft passes. Soft on the boards. Nobody just grabs a board and holds onto it - it's constantly in danger of getting swiped.

This Zags team gets smoked at AZ.

Zippyzaggy
12-02-2014, 05:56 PM
In Zags defense...kind of hard to get up for ### roast when you have Prime Rib on your mind. Lord, I hope that's the case. All our depth and getting handled by a 6 player 2-5 team w/ little bigs.

RenoZag
12-02-2014, 05:56 PM
. . .but that team hit some very tough shots that one would think will not be dropping all game.

We can only hope. But we've seen the script before: some dude in a Visitors' jersey goes ape s@@t on the Zags.

UberZagFan
12-02-2014, 05:58 PM
Yeah that booth is doing great. No mention of Pangos passing Santangelo on the all-time list?

Zippyzaggy
12-02-2014, 05:59 PM
Presumably we wear them down and they stop hitting every shot (and we stop turning it over...).

But I will say, we look soft, soft, soft. Soft passes. Soft on the boards. Nobody just grabs a board and holds onto it - it's constantly in danger of getting swiped.

This Zags team gets smoked at AZ.

Words out. We're soft. The Seton Hall players were laughing there heads off at Karnowski getting knocked on his keister by their lil pg.

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 05:59 PM
We can only hope. But we've seen the script before: some dude in a Visitors' jersey goes ape s@@t on the Zags.

Yeah. Every time I see one of these I think "Portland State" - I happened to be at that game and everyone in the section just kept waiting for the 20-3 run. It was only when there was about 3:00 left that people started thinking, "hey, we could lose!"

gonzagafan62
12-02-2014, 06:00 PM
Coach Daniels with the half-time comments. Not a happy camper either.


We can only hope. But we've seen the script before: some dude in a Visitors' jersey goes ape s@@t on the Zags.

For whatever reason we are the unluckiest team ever in that aspect alone

Zippyzaggy
12-02-2014, 06:01 PM
OK enough of my glooom, Ima take my positive tude outta here and leave ya'll to your glory. Best, zippy

KStyles
12-02-2014, 06:02 PM
Yeah that booth is doing great. No mention of Pangos passing Santangelo on the all-time list?

It was mentioned, and there was a graphic as well with the top 5. They said barring injury, he'll leave as the all-time leader in 3 point field goals.

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 06:02 PM
We need to come out and just kick some ass. Tired of looking softer than them. We could be in real trouble in Zona if we don't toughen up.

raise the zag
12-02-2014, 06:03 PM
Coaches and players alike need to accept the fact their Guards are quicker than our guards.

Let's just get that out of the way right now...

Adjust.

Help defense. Zone.

We are not inferior if we require to zone to stop their penetration. They have, far and away, the fastest dribbling we've seen all season.

Adjust.

Take advantage of our BIG-time height advantage. Every D1 team has good guards, its the post presence that separates the rest from the best.

Wiltjer-types may or may not be worthy of this type of game. He can't turn on 'toughness'. Nor rebounding. He's a finesse player who can't stop guards either.

This is a game we really need Domas to not lose his cool. I posted last week his emotions are his weakness and his strength, yet must stay centered --- and in the game. It will kill us vs motivated teams.

Someone needs to help both Pangos and GBJ, both getting absolutely schooled, toasted, burnt, run around...help them.

Hope Wesley pulls his typical game/move, no-show first half, game-winning second half.

This is NOT what Top-10 teams do. They DO NOT play to their competition.

Step it up, don't let them run clock down, pressure, and help contain the guards. Haven't seen a zone YET!? Why?!?

gonzagafan62
12-02-2014, 06:03 PM
Yeah. Every time I see one of these I think "Portland State" - I happened to be at that game and everyone in the section just kept waiting for the 20-3 run. It was only when there was about 3:00 left that people started thinking, "hey, we could lose!"

I remember that game well. The egg nog I was drinking didn't sit in my stomach well after we lost that game.

gonzagafan62
12-02-2014, 06:05 PM
There is aggressive defense

MTZag03
12-02-2014, 06:06 PM
Gosh I just wish my 2 year old would just fall asleep so I could watch the game. Sounds grim, but looks like a good 2nd half start.

MTZag03
12-02-2014, 06:07 PM
AZ only up 6 right now.

gonzagafan62
12-02-2014, 06:07 PM
Gosh I just wish my 2 year old would just fall asleep so I could watch the game. Sounds grim, but looks like a good 2nd half start.

I have a six month old that I hope doesn't wake up until after te game. Late here in Missouri.

U Zig, I Zag
12-02-2014, 06:08 PM
Coaches and players alike need to accept the fact their Guards are quicker than our guards.

Let's just get that out of the way right now...

Adjust.

Help defense. Zone.

We are not inferior if we require to zone to stop their penetration. They have, far and away, the fastest dribbling we've seen all season.

Adjust.

Take advantage of our BIG-time height advantage. Every D1 team has good guards, its the post presence that separates the rest from the best.

Wiltjer-types may or may not be worthy of this type of game. He can't turn on 'toughness'. Nor rebounding. He's a finesse player who can't stop guards either.

This is a game we really need Domas to not lose his cool. I posted last week his emotions are his weakness and his strength, yet must stay centered --- and in the game. It will kill us vs motivated teams.

Someone needs to help both Pangos and GBJ, both getting absolutely schooled, toasted, burnt, run around...help them.

Hope Wesley pulls his typical game/move, no-show first half, game-winning second half.

This is NOT what Top-10 teams do. They DO NOT play to their competition.

Step it up, don't let them run clock down, pressure, and help contain the guards. Haven't seen a zone YET!? Why?!?


Excellent.

U Zig, I Zag
12-02-2014, 06:09 PM
At that game. I was ill and had a fever and the whole thing seemed like a blur. Only during the next day, reading online did I really conclude we lost. It was surreal.

U Zig, I Zag
12-02-2014, 06:10 PM
PK, rebound stolen from him again.

U Zig, I Zag
12-02-2014, 06:11 PM
AZ up 44-41

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 06:12 PM
At that game. I was ill and had a fever and the whole thing seemed like a blur. Only during the next day, reading online did I really conclude we lost. It was surreal.

The game made me sick, too.

Might wanna halve your dose of cough medicine, though.


Or double it.

gonzagafan62
12-02-2014, 06:13 PM
The game made me sick, too.

Might wanna halve your dose of cough medicine, though.


Or double it.

You wouldn't think a team like that with a long travel day would come in and beat us like that. Still mad at that game

U Zig, I Zag
12-02-2014, 06:14 PM
The game made me sick, too.

Might wanna halve your dose of cough medicine, though.


Or double it.

Or a shot of Jack.:)

jazzdelmar
12-02-2014, 06:15 PM
here comes byron

gonzagafan62
12-02-2014, 06:17 PM
Come on shemmick. Another missed rebound

jazzdelmar
12-02-2014, 06:18 PM
zona o nly up 3

jazzdelmar
12-02-2014, 06:19 PM
fire's out :)

GU69
12-02-2014, 06:20 PM
ok, a 9-0 run and starting to build a healthy lead. Why couldn't they do that in the first half?

kitzbuel
12-02-2014, 06:20 PM
Karno's rebounding = :(.

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 06:20 PM
Or a shot of Jack.:)

Same thing.

Starting to look better. Their acrobatic shots aren't going down.

We still don't look sharp.

good thing they can't hit a thing this half or they'd be right with us again.

We'll probably win by 20 and it'll feel like a 10 pt loss.

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 06:21 PM
zona o nly up 3

The hell?

Is GW any good?

U Zig, I Zag
12-02-2014, 06:22 PM
For those that can't see (sorry). Bell came flying in on the offensive board side and while he didn't keep it alive and SEL got it, Bell was flying and playing aggressive. 1 on 4 and he was the jumpy guy that touched the ball first. We don't seem to have a lot of that. Not enough anyway.

ZagaZags
12-02-2014, 06:22 PM
Anyone else notice that Josh Perkins is no longer on the bench here in the 2nd half?

gonstu
12-02-2014, 06:23 PM
Stats show zero mins for Dranginis and Melson. Is this accurate? Any explanation?

gonzagafan62
12-02-2014, 06:26 PM
Stats show zero mins for Dranginis and Melson. Is this accurate? Any explanation?

It's wron both have played key mins

jazzdelmar
12-02-2014, 06:27 PM
It's wron both have played key mins

KD just set up SM for a 3

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 06:29 PM
Stats show zero mins for Dranginis and Melson. Is this accurate? Any explanation?

No.

It's wrong.

Melson just hit a 3, Kyle D just took it to the hoop.

RenoZag
12-02-2014, 06:29 PM
Nice three from GBJ . . .60 - 37

GU69
12-02-2014, 06:30 PM
Now it's a 19-0 run and the first half seems even more strange.

Zagnailler
12-02-2014, 06:30 PM
28 to 4 in the second half. That's more like it.

U Zig, I Zag
12-02-2014, 06:30 PM
Anyone else notice that Josh Perkins is no longer on the bench here in the 2nd half?

My guess is that he has his own booth at Sonic - so he's setting up for a liquid diet.

What a tough guy. Broke some bones before, but a broken jaw just seems awful.

DixieZag
12-02-2014, 06:31 PM
My guess is that he has his own booth at Sonic - so he's setting up for a liquid diet.

What a tough guy. Broke some bones before, but a broken jaw just seems awful.

He could also just be in a lot of pain. Sitting on the bench, blood pressure up, tough seeing the team not playing well (first half), might just want to sit in a quite room. I know I always did when in pain.

raise the zag
12-02-2014, 06:33 PM
Why play Pangos again?

Game in hand.

First time Kevin went out this game...for 90 seconds.

Gonna play another 36-37 mins again. Catches up to players...

Also, instills confidence in others, such as Melson (who we need down stretch).

JMO, feel its a mistake to continue to play Pangos so much, esp when we have the game won.

RenoZag
12-02-2014, 06:33 PM
BYU up by 4 against USU, 11 minutes to go, 52-48

RenoZag
12-02-2014, 06:36 PM
Sabonis has great hands, finishes at the rim. . .those traits remind me of JP Batista . . .

U Zig, I Zag
12-02-2014, 06:39 PM
Sabonis has great hands, finishes at the rim. . .those traits remind me of JP Batista . . .

I have zero worry about Sabonis, other than fouling out. He knows what he is doing. I hope he is able to stay in the game @AZ

raise the zag
12-02-2014, 06:39 PM
Arizona up by 25.

That was quick. . .

UberZagFan
12-02-2014, 06:40 PM
I have zero worry about Sabonis, other than fouling out. He knows what he is doing. I hope he is able to stay in the game @AZ
Agreed.

U Zig, I Zag
12-02-2014, 06:40 PM
Crimey. The Ohio State has 18pts and they are in the 2nd half against L-Ville.

raise the zag
12-02-2014, 06:40 PM
I have zero worry about Sabonis, other than fouling out. He knows what he is doing. I hope he is able to stay in the game @AZ

+∞

We arguably need him more than any player, not named Pangos.

RenoZag
12-03-2014, 11:29 AM
OFFICIAL BOX SCORE (http://www.gozags.com/ViewContent.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=26400&CONTENT_ID=1052875)