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lawzag
09-07-2007, 11:01 AM
Anyone have any new info on the lear jet?
When do they plan to actually put it into service?

roxdoc
09-07-2007, 11:49 AM
Don't think it is a "Lear"!

lawzag
09-07-2007, 01:24 PM
sorry - I meant: "Gulfstream" :)

Spike94
09-07-2007, 10:00 PM
Is GU actually getting its own jet?

ZagNut08
09-07-2007, 10:02 PM
discussed a while back, some boosters are paying for it and allowing the bball team to use it.

it will say "gonzaga bulldogs" on the side and have the bulldog head on the back

maybe it will be somehow be at the spokane airport when clark is dropped off to leave?!

wazZag
09-07-2007, 10:02 PM
It's no joke, there is a thread from several months ago about it.

MDABE80
09-07-2007, 10:45 PM
These days of higher (than what used to be) demands to meet an ever increasing difficult schedule, it doesn't surprise me than our Zags might need such a way to get around the country to avoid airport fatigue and arrive fresh for the games AND get home so the guys can study effectively. For example, if the team can come home the night of a game in San Diego instead of spending an overnight stay, it makes sense. Why come home the next day and be tired when the kids can come home the same night, sleep in their own beds and wake up fresh ready to go to class?

Sounds extravagant to me but when the team is going from East to West and from Northern to Southern borders, I guess it makes sense. I do think it's a shared plane owned by people who don't mind the labeling on their jet. Lots of advantages here and not much disadvantage for a rising program that's way out West and way up North.

bartruff1
09-08-2007, 06:19 AM
Somebody post a picture...I have to see it....

J-Mac Zag Forever
09-08-2007, 06:27 AM
like to see 7'5" 385lb Will Foster try to fit in a commercial flight for about six hours and be ready to play BB.

LynetteG
09-08-2007, 08:37 AM
here's the previous discussion about the jet

http://www.guboards.spokesmanreview.com/showthread.php?t=3443&highlight=plane

Butler Guy
09-08-2007, 08:50 AM
that Butler might be able to afford a second-hand Cessna float-plane. Only downside would be that all recruits have to live on a piece of water greater than 800 meters long. :)

BobZag
09-08-2007, 09:28 AM
Jim Meehan said he'd be doing a big article about it soon.

http://www.aoc.noaa.gov/images/g4-1.jpg
Here come your Gonzaga Bulldogs!

GonzagaGurl08
09-08-2007, 10:51 AM
It will be nice to have a charter plane for the guys. Imagine being Will Foster, on a regular flight, unless he gets the exit row, he has his knees to his shoulders just to fit in the seat. It will be good to help cut down on the travel/airport time.

SWZag
09-10-2007, 11:57 AM
Who gets to be the lucky pilot? One of the Alumni? Will they get free tickets to the games? I'm pursuing my license as we speak and well, I could possibly accept such an offer. :D

SWZag

gamagin
09-10-2007, 12:05 PM
GU will be leasing, or renting by the hour, a jet that is or will be owned by a wealthy Spokane Businessman & Zag fan whose last name is Wolff. It reportedly will fly the Zag logo. this from a fellow whose name rhymes with spritzer.

sittingon50
09-10-2007, 12:49 PM
Kibitzer?

MDABE80
09-10-2007, 01:38 PM
If I gave $1 million to GU, I might not like my name in a public forum......things bein what they are on the net these days. As proud as I might be to be able to give a gift, nuthin doin with a name:) Just a thought;)

Angelo Roncalli
09-10-2007, 01:50 PM
OK Abe, so you send me a million and I'll give to GU for you.

MDABE80
09-10-2007, 02:08 PM
OK but don't give my name out! lol

sittingon50
09-10-2007, 04:18 PM
Doc, we could call you Josh UW or Big Balla!

MDABE80
09-10-2007, 04:29 PM
Speakin of which.......50 I was up in your neck of the woods over Labor Day for Gramma's 78th bday. A bit dry up there but man that place is gorgeous. I haven't been up since me and a guy from the Acorn family played some music way back in the day. You might be a bit isolated but it's just so amazing!
And you COULD call me Josh or Balla but nobody would believe it. Those kids ain't got 2 nickels to rub together. Nice boys though.

azzagfan
09-10-2007, 04:36 PM
sorry - I meant: "Gulfstream" :)

I'd be surprised if it's a single Gulfstream to support the entire team and coaching staff as there is no way any of the Gulfstream models holds half the team/coaching staff and bags. My guess is something slightly larger.

sittingon50
09-10-2007, 04:42 PM
Doc, check your PM.

BobZag
09-10-2007, 06:13 PM
I'd be surprised if it's a single Gulfstream to support the entire team and coaching staff as there is no way any of the Gulfstream models holds half the team/coaching staff and bags. My guess is something slightly larger.

It's a 22-seat Gulfstream.

gamagin
09-10-2007, 07:20 PM
I think it will be a jet that is outfitted, as BZ, says, for 22-25 seats, which means it will be scaled down from 30-40, maybe 50 for commercial capacity, to allow for whatever in the way of storage GU and its owners need beyond the team.

A lear max's at about 10.

A gulf Stram at about double that -- at least the one's I've seen.

The big difference between those two, besides cost, is the distance each can fly, the Gulf being bigger & capable of crossing any ocean without refueling.

that means a larger craft than eaither the Lear or the Gulf Stream, customized to handle all the Zags need, is more likely.

But what brand remains a mystery, to me at least.

roxdoc
09-10-2007, 07:58 PM
I heard it was a Gulf Stream IV which are pretty good sized: ~ 25. The owner plans to use it for other purposes so he probably does not need or want it to be much larger.

Angelo Roncalli
09-10-2007, 08:50 PM
I have a client who owns a company that designs, manufactures and installs interiors in commercial and private aircraft. I called him today and asked him about configuring a Gulfstream IV for "basketball" use.

He said that most owners of IV's have them set up for 10-14 seats. These are usually extra-wide seats, set up in "living room" configurations that have face to face seating, tables, and lounges for maximum comfort.

He explained that he knew of half a dozen IV's that are configured to take 20 or more passengers. These use 2-1 seating (two seats-aisle-one seat). They have very small galleys and a single lav. A certain agency of the federal government has several Gulfstream IV's arranged for maximum seating. Because of their inter-continental range 4000+ knot range, they've been used to secretly transport certain individuals from the middle east to Guantanamo.

wazZag
09-10-2007, 10:44 PM
Nice info Angelo, thanks.

roxdoc
09-11-2007, 06:48 AM
Looking at it from the other side of the equation, how many seats needed? Travel squad = 10(?), coaches=4(?), trainers, equipment people, other support etc.

I don't think we have ever discussed this number.

thickman1
09-11-2007, 07:36 AM
I can't believe how hard up for information we are that we're now guessing at the interior configurations of GU's plane. When does practice start? :lmao:

CDC84
09-11-2007, 07:53 AM
15 players (2 walk ons usually - I think everyone travels with the team most of the time; could be wrong)

5 coaches (Few, RayG, Rice, Krause, Lloyd)

1 trainer (Nyland)

= 21 people

I am sure I am missing someone else that normally travels w/ the team.

JLGutrocks
09-11-2007, 08:31 AM
Historically, the team has been flying in two separate planes. Probably a good idea should any technical difficulties arise with one.