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Reborn
03-16-2014, 06:34 AM
It's time to get your bracket sheets out and fill them out at 3 pm this afternoon. I've been waiting for this day every since winning our conference tournament. How can we not be excited. For me this is one of the most exciting days of the season. Gonzaga has done so great this year, and now we get to see where we end up and who we play.

Personally, I believe that the Zags deserve to be seeded in San Diego with Arizona and UCLA should go to Spokane. We are the top teams out west and should get to stay in our region. I also believe that we should be in the 7/10 part of the bracket. And I feel we should play Colorado, who could be the ten seed with Gonzaga being the 7. I think the only way that we could get to stay out west would be to get a six seed, and then play a three. The most likely three seed to be sent out west would be Syracuse, imo.

Unfortunately, Gonzaga will probably be heading to a distant pod, hopefully not too far away. That would be for us to be a 7 seed playing in the Milwaukee pod which would be in the West Region (according to Joe Lunardi), and if we won we would play Wisconsin. Currently Mr Lunardi has Texas playing in that pod playing Colorado. I believe the better match-up would be GU and Colorado.

But as you know, who knows what will happen. It's kind of like a game. No one really knows who will win. Especially this year. There will certainly be some surprises today. I hope we will be pleasantly surprised.

Go Zags!!!

webspinnre
03-16-2014, 07:39 AM
It's worth noting that the Milwaukee pod isn't tied to any specific region. If you check, Lunardi moves them around region to region based on who the top seed is in that pod, and what region he has that top seed in.

willandi
03-16-2014, 07:46 AM
One rule I would like to see instituted would be that no higher seed can be closer to home than their opponent until the SS. That is to say that, St. Louis, as a 10, can't be in St Louis...or as an 8, because the assumption has to be made initially that they will have to play against a 1-2 or 3 if they win, and the rule would be that they can't geographically be closer than the lower seeded team.
The Zags should not have had to play Davidson, 35 miles from their campus. There are enough provosos in place that this one would be relatively minor, but an effective means to move teams from locations, without having to alter seed lines, or extend an advantage to a higher seeded team unfairly.

gonstu
03-16-2014, 08:02 AM
My 6 year old son crawled into bed w/ me this morning around 6AM and, as I was still half asleep, the first words I heard out of his mouth were, "Happy Selection Sunday Dad."

I don't know whether to be proud of his basketball knowledge & Zag anticipation or ashamed at my parenting! Should Selection Sunday really be what he's thinking about when he wakes up???

I'm thinking 8 seed in San Diego!

ZagMan in Philly
03-16-2014, 08:30 AM
My 6 year old son crawled into bed w/ me this morning around 6AM and, as I was still half asleep, the first words I heard out of his mouth were, "Happy Selection Sunday Dad."

I don't know whether to be proud of his basketball knowledge & Zag anticipation or ashamed at my parenting! Should Selection Sunday really be what he's thinking about when he wakes up???

I'm thinking 8 seed in San Diego!
Great stuff.
My schedule for the next few weeks will be played out today.
FUN day to watch some games and finding out where the Zags will be going.

DixieZag
03-16-2014, 08:32 AM
My 6 year old son crawled into bed w/ me this morning around 6AM and, as I was still half asleep, the first words I heard out of his mouth were, "Happy Selection Sunday Dad."

I don't know whether to be proud of his basketball knowledge & Zag anticipation or ashamed at my parenting! Should Selection Sunday really be what he's thinking about when he wakes up???

I'm thinking 8 seed in San Diego!

I think you should be proud, pretty perceptive and in tuned to what interests you. It's a little different but when we put my six year old girl to bed while the Academy Awards were going on, they had just awarded best song and "Frozen" won, she did not want to go to bed, but she did say, "well, at least I know Frozen won." Academy Awards, New Year's Eve in Time Square and the Rose Parade, seems to be a strong (not universal) gender link to those shows.

I'm excited but expect to be angered by an 8 or 9 in the same river basin as the opponent and top seed.

wnczagfan
03-16-2014, 08:44 AM
My 6 year old son crawled into bed w/ me this morning around 6AM and, as I was still half asleep, the first words I heard out of his mouth were, "Happy Selection Sunday Dad."

I don't know whether to be proud of his basketball knowledge & Zag anticipation or ashamed at my parenting! Should Selection Sunday really be what he's thinking about when he wakes up???

I'm thinking 8 seed in San Diego!

I think if your kid wants to see you and talk to you first thing in the morning, and is interested in what interests you, shows you are doing a good job of parenting.

Zagceo
03-16-2014, 08:46 AM
Espn just showed how the last 2 NCAA Champs had the top BPI ranking going into tourney and Arizona has the top BPI going into this years tourney. If we play Arizona in San Diego that's like a home game for the Wildcats.

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 08:56 AM
My 6 year old son crawled into bed w/ me this morning around 6AM and, as I was still half asleep, the first words I heard out of his mouth were, "Happy Selection Sunday Dad."

I don't know whether to be proud of his basketball knowledge & Zag anticipation or ashamed at my parenting! Should Selection Sunday really be what he's thinking about when he wakes up???

I'm thinking 8 seed in San Diego!

sounds to me you should be very proud of BOTH, nothing to be ashamed of passing on your specific love or enjoyment within life.......makes for a great father son bond

kitzbuel
03-16-2014, 09:16 AM
Is it just me or does Jay Williams look like a bald elf?

Oregonzagnut
03-16-2014, 09:20 AM
My 6 year old son crawled into bed w/ me this morning around 6AM and, as I was still half asleep, the first words I heard out of his mouth were, "Happy Selection Sunday Dad."

I don't know whether to be proud of his basketball knowledge & Zag anticipation or ashamed at my parenting! Should Selection Sunday really be what he's thinking about when he wakes up???

I'm thinking 8 seed in San Diego!

This ^ is the ultimate reward for being a ZAG! Its not championships or streaks.

Best post of the year IMO.

Reborn
03-16-2014, 11:32 AM
Half way there. Two and a half more hours. Getting really excited. I'm smiling and feeling good. This is frequently a good sign.

Go Zags!!! The word in my consciousness is SURPRISE.....in a positive way.

Go Zags!!!

Akzag
03-16-2014, 01:51 PM
Good Luck Y'all ...

Akzag
03-16-2014, 01:51 PM
Congrats to Coach Martelli and the Hawks of Saint Joseph's ..

McZag
03-16-2014, 01:52 PM
Where is the team watching the show???

MJ777
03-16-2014, 01:52 PM
I have a feeling BYU might be NIT bound.

UVA is the 4th #1. I think.

GU gets a 7, I hope.

BobZag
03-16-2014, 01:53 PM
Zags came on their strongest after those two road losses at BYU and San Diego. Don't know if the guys did enough soon enough but hopefully enough to avoid 8-9 seed.

ZagNative
03-16-2014, 01:55 PM
Selection show live online (http://www.ncaa.com/march-madness-live)

Akzag
03-16-2014, 01:58 PM
nice to see Larry Brown stopping by GUBoards today ... great job at SMU, Coach

madness
03-16-2014, 01:59 PM
7 seed in San Diego would be awesome

ZagMania
03-16-2014, 02:03 PM
Changing the format of the show this year? Not showing all 4 one seeds first?

ZagMania
03-16-2014, 02:04 PM
Know nothing about Stephen F. Austin, but how did a 32-2 team get a 12 seed?

ZagaZags
03-16-2014, 02:05 PM
That's 1 #7 off the board.

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:05 PM
so much for san diego......

Akzag
03-16-2014, 02:07 PM
wow ... lol ... there's a lot of "Fun" matchups here ... ( south region )

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:07 PM
wow ... lol ... there's a lot of "Fun" matchups here ... ( south region )

yep dayton vs ohio state ouch

VinnyZag
03-16-2014, 02:07 PM
Dodged both Florida and Kansas in that region. Good start. West region up next.

Zagceo
03-16-2014, 02:08 PM
You can have another set of teams playing in San Diego that feed the West Region.

Oregonzagnut
03-16-2014, 02:09 PM
yep dayton vs ohio state ouch

At least Dayton got in. Beating us helped.

VinnyZag
03-16-2014, 02:09 PM
Know nothing about Stephen F. Austin, but how did a 32-2 team get a 12 seed?

Their best win was over KenPom No. 128 Towson.

exclusivelee
03-16-2014, 02:10 PM
SOUTH (Memphis)


1
Florida


16
Albany / Mount St. Mary's



Orlando


8
Colorado


9
Pittsburgh






5
VCU


12
Stephen F. Austin



San Diego


4
UCLA


13
Tulsa






6
Ohio St.


11
Dayton



Buffalo


3
Syracuse


14
Western Michigan






7
New Mexico


10
Stanford



St. Louis


2
Kansas


15
Eastern Kentucky

Akzag
03-16-2014, 02:11 PM
You can have another set of teams playing in San Diego that feed the West Region.


Four more teams will be in San Diego ... Probably Arizona ... a 16, 8 & 9 ...

webspinnre
03-16-2014, 02:12 PM
Well there we go.

Akzag
03-16-2014, 02:12 PM
ouch

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:12 PM
there it is.....hmmmmmm not sure they liked our body of work

VinnyZag
03-16-2014, 02:13 PM
Awful

bballbeachbum
03-16-2014, 02:13 PM
no love at all. not surprised

exclusivelee
03-16-2014, 02:13 PM
Zags get an 8 seed in San Diego vs 9 seed Oklahoma St.

1 seed is Arizona

Akzag
03-16-2014, 02:13 PM
welcome back, Spangler ...

BTB
03-16-2014, 02:13 PM
Noooooo

MJ777
03-16-2014, 02:13 PM
Hello Ok St and hopefully AZ. Spangler can show the Sooners around Spokane.

ZagaZags
03-16-2014, 02:14 PM
Wow

Martin Centre Mad Man
03-16-2014, 02:14 PM
I just said a bad word.

DixieZag
03-16-2014, 02:14 PM
Ug.

Worst possible 9 seed and worst possible first - second round games (8-9)

CdAZagFan
03-16-2014, 02:14 PM
Well, victories over OK State and Arizona would certainly bring back that Cinderalla title...

Ekrub
03-16-2014, 02:14 PM
Wow we got screwed.

webspinnre
03-16-2014, 02:14 PM
Wow, BYU as a 10?

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:14 PM
and the reward oregon.....amazing......GO BYU beat Oregon

basketballzag
03-16-2014, 02:14 PM
Awful matchup for the Zags.

john montana
03-16-2014, 02:15 PM
Byu got a better draw than we did. Ugh.

CdAZagFan
03-16-2014, 02:15 PM
Would have almost rather had BYU's seeding...

exclusivelee
03-16-2014, 02:15 PM
BYU is an 10 seed vs Oregon in Milwaukee

Martin Centre Mad Man
03-16-2014, 02:15 PM
BYU got a much better draw than we did.

Ekrub
03-16-2014, 02:15 PM
And BYU gets Oregon. Just absolute ####

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:16 PM
Byu got a better draw than we did. Ugh.

yep they punished us

basketballzag
03-16-2014, 02:16 PM
We need to go back and lose the championship game.

zagfan24
03-16-2014, 02:16 PM
Angel Nunez get ready. We're going to need you.

VinnyZag
03-16-2014, 02:16 PM
Arizona has an incredibly easy path to the final four.

Club Prez
03-16-2014, 02:17 PM
welcome back, Spangler ...

Spangler plays for Oklahoma, not Oklahoma State

MJ777
03-16-2014, 02:17 PM
BYU, at least there is money for the WCC. SD State got a 4, but Creighton got a 3. wow. Yeah for Nebraska.

exclusivelee
03-16-2014, 02:17 PM
WEST (Anaheim)


1
Arizona


16
Weber St.



San Diego


8
Gonzaga


9
Oklahoma St.






5
Oklahoma


12
North Dakota St.



Spokane


4
San Diego St.


13
New Mexico St.






6
Baylor


11
Nebraska



San Antonio


3
Creighton


14
Louisiana Lafayette






7
Oregon


10
BYU



Milwaukee


2
Wisconsin


15
American

krozman
03-16-2014, 02:18 PM
We're doomed!

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:18 PM
Spangler plays for Oklahoma, not Oklahoma State

who was seeded in spokane werent they?

john montana
03-16-2014, 02:18 PM
Spangler plays for Oklahoma, not Oklahoma State

Ok plays in Spokane.

CdAZagFan
03-16-2014, 02:18 PM
Gottlieb is a GU hater… would love to see us knock off his boys!

ZagaZags
03-16-2014, 02:18 PM
He assumes Arizona will play Oklahoma State.

exclusivelee
03-16-2014, 02:18 PM
And BYU gets Oregon. Just absolute ####

should that be allowed? They played each other this season

MJ777
03-16-2014, 02:18 PM
I guess we don't have a chance against OSU according to the talkers.

SWZag
03-16-2014, 02:18 PM
I like what I hear from the analysts...OK State against Arizona. Are we underdogs? Love it!

RenoZag
03-16-2014, 02:19 PM
Spangler plays for Oklahoma, not Oklahoma State

And he'll be playing in Spokane

Mr Vulture
03-16-2014, 02:19 PM
The one team in the 7-10 range I didn't want to see...ughhh. At least it's in the West region and San Diego pod. Very surprised that BYU was only one game below us.

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:19 PM
Gottlieb is a GU hater… would love to see us knock off his boys!

yep he didnt even bat an eye about our game with Ok state.....I like the underdog role with this team and I dont mind playing OK state and flopping smart

McZag
03-16-2014, 02:19 PM
My worst case scenario save san diego

Martin Centre Mad Man
03-16-2014, 02:19 PM
should that be allowed? They played each other this season

And they put two WCC teams in the same region. Odd.

john montana
03-16-2014, 02:20 PM
Wow what a tough match up. Smart is a load...they pressure the hell out of the other teams guards...we will have an inside advantage but can we get the ball in there?

I would trade with byu in a heartbeat.

Oregonzagnut
03-16-2014, 02:20 PM
Arizona has an incredibly easy path to the final four.

Just like we did last year. We need to be the spoilers this year, not the spoiled!

Martin Centre Mad Man
03-16-2014, 02:20 PM
The one team in the 7-10 range I didn't want to see...ughhh. At least it's in the West region and San Diego pod. Very surprised that BYU was only one game below us.

Yup.

75Zag
03-16-2014, 02:20 PM
He assumes Kansas will play Oklahoma State.

To be fair, so does everybody else in the country except for those of us who are true GU believers.

Go Bulldogs!

MJ777
03-16-2014, 02:20 PM
He assumes Arizona will play Oklahoma State.

In fairness they get paid to have an opinion. But Zags can play the no respect card here.

StocktonZag
03-16-2014, 02:20 PM
Coaches getting busy!!! I'm excited for some great basketball.

U Zig, I Zag
03-16-2014, 02:20 PM
Awful draw... And...
A great chance.


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primal23
03-16-2014, 02:20 PM
Well that sucks.

ZagMania
03-16-2014, 02:20 PM
Ditto on going back and losing the championship game. Would love to switch with BYU. Oh well, lets go Zags!

bballbeachbum
03-16-2014, 02:20 PM
no love at all

Club Prez
03-16-2014, 02:21 PM
My bad. Thought you meant Gonzaga, not Spokane.

ZagaZags
03-16-2014, 02:21 PM
When was the last time Gonzaga went 1 and done?

bigblahla
03-16-2014, 02:21 PM
History it seems should make Cowboy fans a lot more nervous than Zag fans. Take out the Cowboys and we get a chance to shock the world....why not the only alternative is the long off season.

Go!! Zags!!!

bballbeachbum
03-16-2014, 02:22 PM
I like what I hear from the analysts...OK State against Arizona. Are we underdogs? Love it!

when Seth likes the Zags it doesn't work out. I'm with you

the committee likes to give it to your university tho seems to me

BTB
03-16-2014, 02:22 PM
I'm hoping that our team feels disrespected by this and use that as motivation.

MDABE80
03-16-2014, 02:22 PM
We can beat OSU..........Arizona? Nope..............

VaBeachZAG
03-16-2014, 02:23 PM
I guess we don't have a chance against OSU according to the talkers.
All talking heads from CBS and ESPN assume OK St. will meet Arizona. Sooooooo, my question to the Zags is: What are you going to do about it? Getting to the second weekend is not an impossibility for the Zags. Just bloody do it!

scott257
03-16-2014, 02:23 PM
Hey, we beat them last year on their court, we can sure as hell beat them in San Diego.

bballbeachbum
03-16-2014, 02:23 PM
look at what the committee are giving Wichita St. in their bracket

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:24 PM
Hey, we beat them last year on their court, we can sure as he'll beat them in San Diego.

yep...,I am comfortable with this game and we can contain smart

a13coach
03-16-2014, 02:25 PM
I cannot cannot cannot stand Doug Gottlieb. The ####at has already dismissed both GU and BYU.

VinnyZag
03-16-2014, 02:25 PM
Wichita just got a brutal draw. Doubt they make it any farther than we did last year.

basketballzag
03-16-2014, 02:25 PM
Not only the did the Zags get steamrolled but Weber State got hosed with a 16 seed. And Manhattan takes on Louisville? Come on---awful selection committee.

007Zag
03-16-2014, 02:26 PM
Wow. Louisville a 4-seed?

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:26 PM
We can beat OSU..........Arizona? Nope..............

disagree.....if UCLA can beat them we can too....would need the first half of BYU for both halves but we can beat both these teams

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:27 PM
you want the one seed WS they will make you earn it.....ouch

MJ777
03-16-2014, 02:27 PM
Wow. Louisville a 4-seed?

Big chip for them. Michigan, WSU and Louisville in the same region. Is one team missing from the 2013 FF?

VaBeachZAG
03-16-2014, 02:27 PM
And they put two WCC teams in the same region. Odd. I'm sure their calculation is that neither makes it past the first game. Of course I want a strong showing for every tournament, but man, I really really want to wipe the smug look off the talking heads this year.

exclusivelee
03-16-2014, 02:28 PM
MIDWEST (Indianapolis)


1
Wichita St.


16
Cal Poly / Texas Southern



St. Louis


8
Kentucky


9
Kansas St.






5
Saint Louis


12
North Carolina St. / Xavier



Orlando


4
Louisville


13
Manhattan






6
Massachusetts


11
Iowa / Tennessee



Raleigh


3
Duke


14
Mercer






7
Texas


10
Arizona St.



Milwaukee


2
Michigan


15
Wofford

bballbeachbum
03-16-2014, 02:28 PM
Wow. Louisville a 4-seed?

Wichita St. with a tough draw to repeat to the FF. The Committee seems to reward some teams while challenging other teams each year. I understand they try to do their best under the circumstances tho

ZagLawGrad
03-16-2014, 02:29 PM
Looks to be another short tournament for the Zags. Only hope to avoid another embarassment is to survive one game before back to the standard MO. One and done not out of the realm.

Chicken Ball
03-16-2014, 02:29 PM
I guess the lesson is: beat more, rpt top 50 teams.

TacomaZAG
03-16-2014, 02:29 PM
OUCH............

Horrible draw, about as bad as it could be other than the location. We have a positive history with OSU, and maybe some revenge from the long ago double overtime loss to UA.

Lace 'em up guys, we are the hunter's again.

Go ZAGS

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:30 PM
I guess the lesson is: beat more, rpt top 50 teams.

if you get the opportunity.......

bballbeachbum
03-16-2014, 02:30 PM
you want the one seed WS they will make you earn it.....ouch

wow, no doubt. not rewarded eh?

RenoZag
03-16-2014, 02:30 PM
Hey, we beat them last year on their court, we can sure as hell beat them in San Diego.

With Harris, Olynyk, Hart, and a healthy Pangos. . .by one point . Last year means nothing.

VinnyZag
03-16-2014, 02:30 PM
I don't understand the "Gottlieb hates GU" storyline that's developing here. He thinks Oklahoma State will win. Doesn't mean he "hates" GU.

BBzag
03-16-2014, 02:31 PM
When was the last time Gonzaga went 1 and done?

In 2008, Davidson. Prior to that, 2007, Indiana.

Oregonzagnut
03-16-2014, 02:31 PM
If we are to get to the Sweet 16, we will have to play perfect. That means we cannot go cold from three. We cannot get sloppy and have 12 turnovers in the game, and our bigs must stay out of foul trouble.

We must defend like our lives depended on it.

CdAZagFan
03-16-2014, 02:32 PM
I don't understand the "Gottlieb hates GU" storyline that's developing here. He thinks Oklahoma State will win. Doesn't mean he "hates" GU.

He spent week after week last year totally putting down the Zags as number one, and then was broadcaster during the Southern game I believe and spent most of the broadcast putting them down… He's not a fan of GU.

webspinnre
03-16-2014, 02:32 PM
I don't understand the "Gottlieb hates GU" storyline that's developing here. He thinks Oklahoma State will win. Doesn't mean he "hates" GU.

You don't seem to be familiar with common parlance, where disagreeing with someone means hating them.

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:32 PM
I don't understand the "Gottlieb hates GU" storyline that's developing here. He thinks Oklahoma State will win. Doesn't mean he "hates" GU.

I think it is more disdain towards our league than anything..he was dismissing BYU being in tournament and didnt even breathe a word about our matchup simply dismissing our chance

MJ777
03-16-2014, 02:33 PM
Congrats to coach Bennett and UVA. Easy team to root for unless you are a WSU Coug.

zagapotomus
03-16-2014, 02:35 PM
When are times usually announced?

primal23
03-16-2014, 02:35 PM
I think it is more disdain towards our league than anything..he was dismissing BYU being in tournament and didnt even breathe a word about our matchup simply dismissing our chance

He's someone who likes to stir up controversy to get his name out there. He's just looking to get noticed. Always been that way.

kitzbuel
03-16-2014, 02:36 PM
MSU gets home away from home in Spokane.

NYCZAG
03-16-2014, 02:36 PM
VCU loses the conference title and the conference championship and is a 5 seed?!?! That says it all! The worst scenario for this team. Better off being a 11-12-13 seed. Disgusted!

exclusivelee
03-16-2014, 02:37 PM
EAST (New York)


1
Virginia


16
Coastal Carolina



Raleigh


8
Memphis


9
George Washington






5
Cincinnati


12
Harvard



Spokane


4
Michigan St.


13
Delaware






6
North Carolina


11
Providence



San Antonio


3
Iowa St.


14
North Carolina Central






7
Connecticut


10
St. Joseph's



Buffalo


2
Villanova


15
Milwaukee

MJ777
03-16-2014, 02:38 PM
Smart beats Dumb. Harvard over Cincy.

KStyles
03-16-2014, 02:39 PM
When are times usually announced?

Later tonight...probably 5-6 hours or so.

VinnyZag
03-16-2014, 02:39 PM
You don't seem to be familiar with common parlance, where disagreeing with someone means hating them.

LOL.

kitzbuel
03-16-2014, 02:40 PM
Smart beats Dumb. Harvard over Cincy.

Don't suppose Cincy will generate much love in Spokane, either.

Zagceo
03-16-2014, 02:40 PM
Congrats to coach Bennett and UVA. Easy team to root for unless you are a WSU Coug.
+1

KStyles
03-16-2014, 02:40 PM
Full Bracket

http://i.imgur.com/Fn3lnzW.jpg (http://www.cbssports.com/images/collegebasketball/ncaa-tournament/brackets/printable/cbs-sports-2014.pdf)

MDABE80
03-16-2014, 02:40 PM
It's his body of work. He's always hated GU and the WCC. It's been going on for years.

gamagin
03-16-2014, 02:41 PM
And he'll be playing in Spokane

I just KNEW he'd be back . . .

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 02:43 PM
He's someone who likes to stir up controversy to get his name out there. He's just looking to get noticed. Always been that way.

yes just look at the shoes he was sporting today "HEY LOOK AT ME"

StocktonZag
03-16-2014, 02:44 PM
Actually, we have the best bracket to advance from, looking at the top 4 seeds for each region!!!
It can be done!!!

Zagceo
03-16-2014, 02:45 PM
He's someone who likes to stir up controversy to get his name out there. He's just looking to get noticed. Always been that way.

Did ya hear how Gottlieb was expelled from Notre Dame?

StocktonZag
03-16-2014, 02:45 PM
GoZags!!! BEAT OK STATE!!!

Oregonzagnut
03-16-2014, 02:47 PM
Anyone who has followed Gottlieb knows he is highly biased towards the power conferences and IMO where the money lies.

scott257
03-16-2014, 02:48 PM
With Harris, Olynyk, Hart, and a healthy Pangos. . .by one point . Last year means nothing.

They lost one starter to injury this year, two or three seniors from last year, and a freshman was released this year (for public indecency). The key strength of Oklahoma State has the same match-ups we played against them last year (Smart and Forte). We match up well and last season sure does matter as our guys know what to expect.

SWZag
03-16-2014, 02:48 PM
Just a warning to GU fans. Don't talk smack to Smart during the game....:boxing:

BobZag
03-16-2014, 02:52 PM
For anyone who may be bemoaning the seed and the opponent, with the 1 seed waiting, look no further than the Zags. GU lost a couple games it had no business losing and now the team pays the piper. That's how it works. This is only for those bemoaning things.

Zag4Hire
03-16-2014, 02:53 PM
Wow. New Mexico got hosed.

kitzbuel
03-16-2014, 02:54 PM
Anyone who has followed Gottlieb knows he is highly biased towards the power conferences and IMO where the money lies.

Continuing his rant saying BYU doesn't belong.

Zagceo
03-16-2014, 02:54 PM
SMU was ranked in the top 25 and got bumped.

bballbeachbum
03-16-2014, 02:55 PM
Gottlieb back pedaling a bit...sounded pretty diplomatic in discussing the OKST matchup, gave love to Sam

GrizZAG
03-16-2014, 02:55 PM
I cannot cannot cannot stand Doug Gottlieb. The ####at has already dismissed both GU and BYU.

I don't care for DG either mostly on his negativity towards Zags last year. He dissed them pretty badly at times even as a 1 seed. This year we have to earn it. Weaker than historic (15 yrs) schedule and what appears to be some pretty bad losses. Our conference played few OOC good teams and those that did fared poorly, so 8 seed no surprise to me. Now, we also know WCC was pretty balanced this year and is no pushover, so I believe we are ready for the next level hype or no hype.
We get our shot and we CAN do this. Beat ASU and we are feared as anyone. Not out of the question if our A game shows up. Happy to have a shot!

kitzbuel
03-16-2014, 02:56 PM
Continuing his rant saying BYU doesn't belong.

Is he even aware BYU took Oregon to the wire at Oregon?

VinnyZag
03-16-2014, 02:56 PM
Wait a minutes, Gottlieb just said Gonzaga could give Arizona trouble if it gets past Oklahoma State. AND, he said Dower is "a problem" for OSU.

How can that be? I thought he HATED Gonzaga!

Ekrub
03-16-2014, 02:58 PM
For anyone who may be bemoaning the seed and the opponent, with the 1 seed waiting, look no further than the Zags. GU lost a couple games it had no business losing and now the team pays the piper. That's how it works. This is only for those bemoaning things.

I'm not mad at the committee, but it is rotten luck. I'd play every 6 and 7 seed if I had a choice before OSU.

BobZag
03-16-2014, 02:58 PM
No Collinsworth, though.

Ekrub
03-16-2014, 02:59 PM
And even with the collinsworth injury, I think BYU beats Oregon.

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 03:00 PM
For anyone who may be bemoaning the seed and the opponent, with the 1 seed waiting, look no further than the Zags. GU lost a couple games it had no business losing and now the team pays the piper. That's how it works. This is only for those bemoaning things.

Portland EGG was with injury and starter out
BYU at BYU most teams struggle to win there no matter who they are

USD now that was the EGG

bballbeachbum
03-16-2014, 03:02 PM
Portland EGG was with injury and starter out
BYU at BYU most teams struggle to win there no matter who they are

USD now that was the EGG

and really no signature wins.

Zag4Hire
03-16-2014, 03:09 PM
Bilas just talked about Arizona getting jobbed because they will play Oklahoma State who will give them fits. You hear that boys?! NOBODY thinks you will win. The team you beat last year on their home court is considered an automatic.

seacatfan
03-16-2014, 03:11 PM
disagree.....if UCLA can beat them we can too....would need the first half of BYU for both halves but we can beat both these teams

Do the Zags have guys like Kyle Anderson, Jordan Adams and Norman Powell?

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 03:12 PM
Do the Zags have guys like Kyle Anderson, Jordan Adams and Norman Powell?

athletically no, basketball IQ YES, consistency YES, defensively YES

MJ777
03-16-2014, 03:12 PM
If my calculations are correct and the Zags play great, get some breaks and outscore OKST, UA and SDSU then everything should be alright. Catch a lightning bolt and get to the E8.

Zag4Hire
03-16-2014, 03:17 PM
If my calculations are correct and the Zags play great, get some breaks and outscore OKST, UA and SDSU then everything should be alright. Catch a lightning bolt and get to the E8.

Just win Friday.

Zag4Hire
03-16-2014, 03:19 PM
I have to say when Gumbel said "New Mexico as the #7 seed", my hear stopped because I didn't want them in the first round. Not terribly happy about playing the Pokes but Few has TONS of intel on Smart. That has to help.

seacatfan
03-16-2014, 03:20 PM
athletically no, basketball IQ YES, consistency YES, defensively YES

And size/length, no. GU's bigs are better than UCLA's, but the perimeter guys is not remotely comparable. UCLA is one of the best offensive teams in the country. Arizona was giving up 41 pts/game in their first two of the Pac 12 Tourney. Zags haven't seen anything remotely like that. UCLA presents some matchup problems, Anderson in particular. How they lost at Wazzou is mind boggling, but they definitely matchup better with UA than GU does.

Martin Centre Mad Man
03-16-2014, 03:20 PM
I would trade places with any 8, 9, 10, 11, or 12 in this tournament. Those bad losses to USD and Portland really hurt us.

Nevada Don
03-16-2014, 03:22 PM
Is this the Mercer Bears thread or the Mighty Gonzaga Bulldogs thread???

1) you can beat a #9 seed
2) you can beat Arizona. Cal beat Arizona!! Supposedly, the Gaels embarrassed Arizona in a pre-season non disclosed practice game.
3) You Are FREAKIN' GONZAGA !!!
4) YOU CAN DO THIS.

Get positive, Get some attitude. Go kick some butt.

CdAZagFan
03-16-2014, 03:23 PM
Can't believe Wichita's bracket also… If we were an 8/9 (which we ended up), I really wanted to have Wichita as the No. 1. Now looking at Wichita's bracket - that is definitely the toughest road to the final four (and I don't think Wichita St. will make it).

Hoopaholic
03-16-2014, 03:26 PM
Is this the Mercer Bears thread or the Mighty Gonzaga Bulldogs thread???

1) you can beat a #9 seed
2) you can beat Arizona. Cal beat Arizona!! Supposedly, the Gaels embarrassed Arizona in a pre-season non disclosed practice game.
3) You Are FREAKIN' GONZAGA !!!
4) YOU CAN DO THIS.

Get positive, Get some attitude. Go kick some butt.

BEAUTIFUL post

Zag4Hire
03-16-2014, 03:27 PM
ESPN totally dismissive of Gonzaga. Jay Williams said dismissively of Gonzaga "Yeah Oklahoma State will be fine", Digger saying OK State can win the region, and Bilas saying "Gonzaga is not the same as they were at the beginning of the year with Pangos suffering from turf toe."

Seriously gang, NO CHANCE. Lol.

seacatfan
03-16-2014, 03:29 PM
A-10 got LOTS of love, 6 teams in. St. Louis fell apart down the stretch. Nothing remotely close to a marquee OOC win. Lost close games against Wisconsin and Wichita St. Somehow got a 5 seed? So did VCU and UMass got a 6. A bit perplexiing.

Some of the #4 seeds are BRUTAL. Louisville and Michigan St. could both easily be Final 4 teams. I will be shocked and amazed if Wichita St. gets back to the Final 4, they have a nasty gauntlet to run through. I'd say Creighton as a #3 seed has an easier path than the Shockers got.

BobZag
03-16-2014, 03:36 PM
And even with the collinsworth injury, I think BYU beats Oregon.

Could be.

BobZag
03-16-2014, 03:39 PM
Portland EGG was with injury and starter out
BYU at BYU most teams struggle to win there no matter who they are

USD now that was the EGG

And up 16 vs Dayton and lose. Ouchee.

FuManShoes
03-16-2014, 03:39 PM
Is this the Mercer Bears thread or the Mighty Gonzaga Bulldogs thread???

1) you can beat a #9 seed
2) you can beat Arizona. Cal beat Arizona!! Supposedly, the Gaels embarrassed Arizona in a pre-season non disclosed practice game.
3) You Are FREAKIN' GONZAGA !!!
4) YOU CAN DO THIS.

Get positive, Get some attitude. Go kick some butt.

Love the rally cry but we're neither Mercer or GU, we're neurotic, pessimistic and some might say pragmatic fans. What we believe doesn't mean squat. All that matters is if the players believe in the doubters or themselves. (And if they can hit threes, make FTs, limit penetration and 2bd chance point, finish at the rim and protect the ball ...)

zagamatic
03-16-2014, 03:43 PM
I seriously don't get all the love for the PAC12 or A10. Didn't the WCC win more games head to head against the PAC this year? Can we beat Oklahoma state? Yeah, depending on the refs and our 3 point shooting. Can we beat Arizona? Yes! Especially if we put foul pressure on them. Personally, I think whoever wins our first game beats Arizona.
It would be a great time to get hot from 3 :drool:
Why not us?
on a side note, I think that the committee got the overall field right, but did a friggin horrible job in the seeding. Not to mention violating their own rule of no repeats in BYU/Oregon.

KStyles
03-16-2014, 03:49 PM
Not to mention violating their own rule of no repeats in BYU/Oregon.

It's not a 'hard' no repeats rule. I think avoiding repeats is a general idea they usually follow, but its not in the selection principles.


Each of the first four teams selected from a
conference shall be placed in different
regions if they are seeded on the first four
lines.

Teams from the same conference shall not
meet prior to the regional final if they played
each other three or more times during the
regular season and conference tournament.

Teams from the same conference shall not
meet prior to the regional semifinals if they
played each other twice during the regular
season and conference tournament.

Teams from the same conference may play
each other as early as the third round if they
played no more than once during the regular
season and conference tournament.

Any principle can be relaxed if two or more
teams from the same conference are among
the last four at-large teams selected to the
field to participate in the First Four.

http://www.ncaa.com/content/di-principles-and-procedures-selection

BobZag
03-16-2014, 03:50 PM
Jud Heathcoat gets to drive down the street a couple miles to watch his Spartans. :) Good on him.

seacatfan
03-16-2014, 03:58 PM
SEC got NO love. They had a bunch of bubble teams coming down the stretch and Tennessee was the only one of those that got in. Put in a play-in game. Although they do get an Iowa team that fell apart to finish the season.

seacatfan
03-16-2014, 03:59 PM
Did anyone notice that 3 out the 4 play-in games are in the Midwest Region? That's strange, they've always spread them out over the 4 regions before.

Zagceo
03-16-2014, 04:14 PM
The #8 vs #9 games are all tough!
West........... Zags vs OSU
East ............Memphis vs GW
South ..........Colorado vs Pitt
Midwest .......Kentucky vs Kansas State

Zag4Hire
03-16-2014, 04:24 PM
The #8 vs #9 games are all tough!
West........... Zags vs OSU
East ............Memphis vs GW
South ..........Colorado vs Pitt
Midwest .......Kentucky vs Kansas State

It's an 8/9 game so it is essentially a coin flip. Never heard someone say, "Hey you know what game is a lock that [INSERT 8/9 game here]". I think what is crazy is all of those teams have very legit shots at downing the #1 seed in the next round (prob not Colorado).

Vanzagger
03-16-2014, 04:38 PM
Is this the Mercer Bears thread or the Mighty Gonzaga Bulldogs thread???

1) you can beat a #9 seed
2) you can beat Arizona. Cal beat Arizona!! Supposedly, the Gaels embarrassed Arizona in a pre-season non disclosed practice game.
3) You Are FREAKIN' GONZAGA !!!
4) YOU CAN DO THIS.

Get positive, Get some attitude. Go kick some butt.

I am in Vegas this week and Reno next. Can I buy you a beer?

Zagceo
03-16-2014, 04:47 PM
Imo its Midwest,South,West,East in that order of difficulty.
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac342/ceo_500/AAA_Bracket_zps3564afcd.png

Reborn
03-16-2014, 04:55 PM
I see no reason to be negative either. NONE!!! I am glad we get Oklahoma St IN SAN DIEGO!!! As I said earlier, the most important thing to me is "WHERE WE PLAY." I couldn't be happier about playing in San Diego. I thought we'd get a 10 seed, and felt the Committee would reward us by placing us in San Diego. When you look at the whole season, almost all of the teams had lots of trouble on the road. GU will beat Oklahoma St in San Diego. We will have the crowd behind us and it'll be fun.

Playing Arizona second is not as bad as most of you think. Is it a tough game? Heck! Of course. But once again we're playing on the west coast in San Diego. No home court advantage maybe? Mmmm? Maybe a little for GU as we play there during the year. Arizona will be a strong favorite and seeing that maybe GU can get the crowd behind them. I also think that Gonzaga is fairly familiar with Arizona, and we've almost always played great against them. We beat them two years ago. We almost beat them in the NCAA tournament years ago in one of the greatest NCAA games of all time. I think that over the years we've beaten them a few times.

Who would I rather play, Arizona in San Diego, or Florida in Orlando, Wichita St in St Louis, or Virginia in Raleigh? All the #1's are great teams. The other 3 would all be on the road, a long ways from Spokane. I'll take Arizona. Now for the first round game, would I rather play Oklahoma St in San Diego, Pitt in Orlando, Kentucky in St Louis, George Washington in Raligh? I'll take Oklahoma St in San Diego. If we could win those two games we would get probably get San Diego in Anaheim. I love our chances there. And then Wisconsin in Anaheim would be great for the Zags to me. I'm staying positive.

Don't worry about what the pundants say. They had Gonzaga losing to Pitt last year in the second round. They didn't have any more respect for us last year. This is a new Zag team and a new year.


Go Zags!!!

Nevada Don
03-16-2014, 05:09 PM
I am in Vegas this week and Reno next. Can I buy you a beer?

Great offer, thank you.
I left Lake Tahoe.
"Oh Lord, stuck in Lodi (Ca.) again :).

LakeCowboy
03-16-2014, 05:12 PM
I see no reason to be negative either. NONE!!! I am glad we get Oklahoma St IN SAN DIEGO!!! As I said earlier, the most important thing to me is "WHERE WE PLAY." I couldn't be happier about playing in San Diego. I thought we'd get a 10 seed, and felt the Committee would reward us by placing us in San Diego. When you look at the whole season, almost all of the teams had lots of trouble on the road. GU will beat Oklahoma St in San Diego. We will have the crowd behind us and it'll be fun.

Playing Arizona second is not as bad as most of you think. Is it a tough game? Heck! Of course. But once again we're playing on the west coast in San Diego. No home court advantage maybe? Mmmm? Maybe a little for GU as we play there during the year. Arizona will be a strong favorite and seeing that maybe GU can get the crowd behind them. I also think that Gonzaga is fairly familiar with Arizona, and we've almost always played great against them. We beat them two years ago. We almost beat them in the NCAA tournament years ago in one of the greatest NCAA games of all time. I think that over the years we've beaten them a few times.

Who would I rather play, Arizona in San Diego, or Florida in Orlando, Wichita St in St Louis, or Virginia in Raleigh? All the #1's are great teams. The other 3 would all be on the road, a long ways from Spokane. I'll take Arizona. Now for the first round game, would I rather play Oklahoma St in San Diego, Pitt in Orlando, Kentucky in St Louis, George Washington in Raligh? I'll take Oklahoma St in San Diego. If we could win those two games we would get probably get San Diego in Anaheim. I love our chances there. And then Wisconsin in Anaheim would be great for the Zags to me. I'm staying positive.

Don't worry about what the pundants say. They had Gonzaga losing to Pitt last year in the second round. They didn't have any more respect for us last year. This is a new Zag team and a new year.


Go Zags!!!


Spokane, WA to San Diego, CA: 1,324 miles
Stillwater, OK to San Diego, CA: 1,376 miles


As an OSU alumni I hate the matchup. I've been to several games against Gonzaga and every time you have either controlled the entire game and hung on at the end to win or snatched victory away from us with great late game coaching and play.

My take (Not that anyone requested it or cares about it):

Coaching: GU
Backcourt: OSU
Frontcourt: GU
Transition: OSU
Defense: GU
Half Court: GU
X-Factor: Marcus Smart


I think Marcus Smart, Markel Brown, Phil Forte, and LeBryan Nash all have to play at a very high level for OSU to win. We struggle with teams who have tall frontlines. The game is a coin flip in who will win. Both teams are capable of getting hot and going on a tear in the bracket, and OSU is capable of throwing in a clunker. Heck, it may even come down to who is hotter from beyond the arc (Phil Forte vs. Kevin Pangos). I'm not looking forward to the matchup. Many of you have said you'd rather play any other 7-10 seed than OSU. OSU fans feel the same way, we'd rather play any other 7-10 seed than you all. Personally, I was hoping for a Kentucky draw that was awarded to KState because of the UK's young erratic guard play.

I've always had a lot of respect for Mark Few and the Gonzaga program. Good luck on Friday, and may the winner ruin brackets everywhere against Arizona on Sunday.



P.S. Does Pangos ever miss or graduate? It feels like that kid has been there for forever and throws the ball into the ocean.

Reborn
03-16-2014, 05:21 PM
Look at Michigan St. They are a #4 seed. Why? Because they lost games when their players were hurt. They are healthy now. I think they will kick butt in the tournament, and I think Gonzaga will too. I am anxious to hear how they are defensively.

sittingon50
03-16-2014, 05:41 PM
Congrats to BYU:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201658935982723&set=vb.1459031095&type=2&theater

Baseline
03-16-2014, 06:00 PM
I'm so looking forward to playing Creigton in the later rounds.

wnczagfan
03-16-2014, 06:37 PM
Congrats to BYU:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201658935982723&set=vb.1459031095&type=2&theater

I have always found BYU very irritating for some reason; their getting a better matchup in the NCAA tournament has not helped this feeling.

ZagNative
03-16-2014, 06:44 PM
I have always found BYU very irritating for some reason; their getting a better matchup in the NCAA tournament has not helped this feeling.I hear you!

seacatfan
03-16-2014, 06:50 PM
Arizona travels very well and they have a lot of alums in California. I think you're going to be disappointed if you are expecting the crowd to be behind Gonzaga in a 2nd Round game.

BobZag
03-16-2014, 07:02 PM
Zags lost two NBA'ers, one a 1st-rounder, plus an ultimate hustle glue-guy.
Zags won the league by 2 games.
Zags won the league tourney rather easily save for first game.

If you talk to anyone I chat with in private, they'll tell you this was all I had hoped, for this team. I tend to get greedy and want more, but not this year. If this team can pull out a W this Friday, it's pure gravy. If not, I'm fine with what these Zags have accomplished and my movie season will bein. Captain America and Godzilla looking good, plus Pompeii has always intrigued me as a historical event. In short, let 'er rip and whatever happens happens, and it's fine by me.

kitzbuel
03-16-2014, 07:05 PM
Zags lost two NBA'ers, one a 1st-rounder, plus an ultimate hustle glue-guy.
Zags won the league by 2 games.
Zags won the league tourney rather easily save for first game.

If you talk to anyone I chat with in private, they'll tell you this was all I had hoped, for this team. I tend to get greedy and want more, but not this year. If this team can pull out a W this Friday, it's pure gravy. If not, I'm fine with what these Zags have accomplished and my movie season will bein. Captain America and Godzilla looking good, plus Pompeii has always intrigued me as a historical event. In short, let 'er rip and whatever happens happens, and it's fine by me.
In for a penny, in for a pound.

ZagLawGrad
03-16-2014, 07:29 PM
Arizona travels very well and they have a lot of alums in California. I think you're going to be disappointed if you are expecting the crowd to be behind Gonzaga in a 2nd Round game.

True that. AZ fans were out in force last year in SLC.

Vanzagger
03-16-2014, 07:35 PM
Zags lost two NBA'ers, one a 1st-rounder, plus an ultimate hustle glue-guy.
Zags won the league by 2 games.
Zags won the league tourney rather easily save for first game.

If you talk to anyone I chat with in private, they'll tell you this was all I had hoped, for this team. I tend to get greedy and want more, but not this year. If this team can pull out a W this Friday, it's pure gravy. If not, I'm fine with what these Zags have accomplished and my movie season will bein. Captain America and Godzilla looking good, plus Pompeii has always intrigued me as a historical event. In short, let 'er rip and whatever happens happens, and it's fine by me.

We added Sam this year. A super 5th year Senior. We added Karno a future pro. Most people on here think David would start for every top 20 team. It's time to raise the bar.

CDC84
03-16-2014, 07:40 PM
BYU has no business being in this field with Kyle Collingsworth injured.

It is absurd that they are only two seed lines worse than the Zags. GU beat them 2 out 3. GU won the WCC postseason and regular season titles as well.

maynard g krebs
03-16-2014, 08:27 PM
We can beat OSU..........Arizona? Nope..............

So can't do what Oregon, Cal, ASU, UCLA did? Why?

23dpg
03-16-2014, 08:35 PM
Congrats to BYU:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201658935982723&set=vb.1459031095&type=2&theater

1. That reaction was priceless. It's what CBB is all about.
2. I'm glad they got in.
3. But why did the only two WCC schools get put in the same bracket? I thought the NCAA tried to avoid that.
4. Also, BYU getting a 10 and us getting an 8 probably means that we needed the WCC title a little more than they did.

MJ777
03-16-2014, 08:58 PM
Tidbits:

Oregon and Joseph Young vs. BYU. Is he a descendant of Brigham and one of his wives? Congrats to BYU and all the teams that made the dance.

Potential round of 32 match up: Ex WSU Cougar X Thames and (4)SDSU Vs. Ex Zag Ryan Spangler and (5)OU in Spokane. Both transferred after their Freshman year.

San Diego St playing in Spokane for a chance to get to Anaheim. Gonzaga playing in San Diego for a chance to get to Anaheim. It's a Small World.

ZagaZags
03-16-2014, 09:04 PM
When was the last time GU was an underdog in the first game?

seacatfan
03-16-2014, 09:14 PM
Tidbits:

Oregon and Joseph Young vs. BYU. Is he a descendant of Brigham and one of his wives? Congrats to BYU and all the teams that made the dance.

Potential round of 32 match up: Ex WSU Cougar X Thames and (4)SDSU Vs. Ex Zag Ryan Spangler and (5)OU in Spokane. Both transferred after their Freshman year.

San Diego St playing in Spokane for a chance to get to Anaheim. Gonzaga playing in San Diego for a chance to get to Anaheim. It's a Small World.

He is a descendant (son) of Michael Young from the famed Phi Slamma Jamma at Houston in the 80's. I just found that out the other day.

seacatfan
03-16-2014, 09:21 PM
There are always some headscratchers with seeding, but this year....it's not worth even trying to make sense of it or justify their selections. The #4 seeds collectively are better than the #3 and maybe even the #2. It looks like it pained the committee greatly to have to give Wichita St. a #1 seed. Since there was no way to avoid that, they made sure to give them the region of death. Did you see the committee chair fumble all over himself and basically give no answer at all when one of the ESPN guys grilled him about seemingly applying totally different criteria to Virginia's seeding and Louisville's? Like I said, you can't justify some of their decisions.

BBzag
03-16-2014, 10:18 PM
When was the last time GU was an underdog in the first game?

The last time they were a lower seed, #11 in 2011 vs. #6 St. John's, who was favored by 1.5. Zags were favored by 1 as a #7 against West Virginia in 2012.

gonzagafan62
03-17-2014, 04:31 AM
With Harris, Olynyk, Hart, and a healthy Pangos. . .by one point . Last year means nothing.

By Four points (I don't count the three at the buzzer, when nobody was on Forte (or whoever it was)....l and we don't need Olynyk and Harris for this game. We got Big Game Sam Dower, and Shemmick Karnowski for it instead. I would take that trade.

And as you might forget..... Olynyk had ZERO ZERO of his 21 points in the first half. Olynyk also fouled out at Stillwater. And we STILL beat them. That also means we played a lot of the other guys too. I think you might wanna rewatch that game in Stillwater. It was a lot better advantage for the Zags than you think.

And one quick note: We also played without Bell for an extended period of time as well. Bell who made the game winning three, didn't come back till what 2 minutes (or less to go?) I have a lot of confidence in this game BECAUSE of last year.

We got this guys!

gonzagafan62
03-17-2014, 04:35 AM
One last thing.... Why is everyone saying BYU is getting a better draw than Gonzaga? My goodness, Oregon is going to steamroll BYU. (I hope not but......) I really think so! I think Gonzaga can beat OK State, and even give Arizona a run for their money.

Go Bulldogs!

Zags11
03-17-2014, 08:55 AM
One last thing.... Why is everyone saying BYU is getting a better draw than Gonzaga? My goodness, Oregon is going to steamroll BYU. (I hope not but......) I really think so! I think Gonzaga can beat OK State, and even give Arizona a run for their money.

Go Bulldogs!

byu beats oregon. Upset pick.

gonzagafan62
03-17-2014, 09:13 AM
byu beats oregon. Upset pick.

I mean anything is possible. Ironically BYU looked better against Gonzaga without Collinsworth. Maybe so. I will be rooting for BYU. Go Zags!!!

Zags11
03-17-2014, 09:37 AM
Just my gut feeling. I could care less. I want our zags and thats that for me.

sittingon50
03-17-2014, 11:41 AM
I'll take BYU. They had 18 TO's in Eugene & were 22-36 from the line.

Time for Carlino to have one of those 30 pt., out of body experiences!

maynard g krebs
03-17-2014, 11:54 AM
One last thing.... Why is everyone saying BYU is getting a better draw than Gonzaga? My goodness, Oregon is going to steamroll BYU. (I hope not but......) I really think so! I think Gonzaga can beat OK State, and even give Arizona a run for their money.

Go Bulldogs!

Glad somebody's paying attention. Oregon/BYU opened at Oregon -2, and went to -6 yesterday. Ducks aren't the same as when they struggled with BYU early, with 5 transfers in key roles, none of whom had redshirted, and Artis/Carter suspended. After the losing streak, they started playing defense, not great but adequately for their offense to win. Hottest team in Pac second half of season, though UCLA is now. Only way BYU wins is if Ducks are ice cold from 3, cause they won't be able to guard them.