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gonzagafan62
02-25-2014, 10:47 AM
Starting Five:

Kevin Pangos - 30 minutes
Gary Bell Jr. - 27 minutes
David Stockton - 30 minutes 30 seconds
Sam Dower - 32 minutes
Przymek Karnowski - 31 minutes 30 seconds

Bench:

Drew Barham - 5 minutes 30 seconds
Gerard Coleman - 13 minutes (I would like him to play more, but 13 minutes is even stretching it in Mark Few's system)
Kyle Dranginis - 13 minutes
Ryan Edwards - 8 minutes
Angel Nunez - 8 minutes
Brian Bhaskar - 30 seconds
Luke Meikle - 30 seconds
Connor Griffin - 30 seconds

First off, I am going to start with the bench. I really would like to see Coleman play a lot in this game based on overall team performance over the last week. We don't need to hit the panic button and throw out Stocks or Bell under the bus at this point, but I think the energy he brings to the team is vital in this game @Pacific. I would like for them to put Angel Nunez at the three and see what he can do from there, but we aren't going to get that either. SO.... On to the gameplan.

We all know what this Pacific team can do at home (164th in FG%), as we already saw them beat BYU. I was not shocked of the outcome. Playing conference road games is always tough. Even though we beat them pretty handily I expect this game to be tight early. This team is not afraid of Gonzaga.

We need to play just straight up man-to-man defense. We have great defenders that can holod their own against these players, and I don't think we need to double team any of them. Andrew Bock is a great scorer of theirs that averages 11.6 ppg and Tony Gill is their second leading scorer after that at 11.4 ppg, so those two will clearly be the focus. They have some guys getting OK assists numbers at 2.9 and Taku at 2.2. What this tells me is that they aren't going to go out and try to pass until they get the open guy. They are going to dribble drive with Bock and get looks at the rim and go to the free throw line. We have got to make sure Shemmick is going to not get quick fouls because of this.

I think this also promotes PK's chances to get more blocks in this game too, however, if they aren't being stingy with the foul calling. When Pangos and bell need a breather, I would bring in Nunez and Coleman to keep the energy going from what I think will be a quick start. These two will drive to the rim, and I think Nunez will get a dunk and a block. Nunez has started to really grow, and I think he will get some playing time. Coleman will draw around 3 or 4 fouls going into the lane and putting up his crazy shots.

I would have Dower and PK drive furiously to the hoop, and I would not let Stocks do too much of the passing. I would order Pangos to be the lobber in this game just due to stocks' lastest outing. Stocks will regain his confidence soon, and there will be no worries about him. Stocks will also get a few looks at three but only take one or two shots if he is open. I would have Pangos create space set screens and get Bell open for a few good looks to the basket as well.

Dower will also get one three pointer, and 4-5 mid range jump shots and make most of them as usual. He will finally amp up the whole team and will this team to win this game.

So what will be the dagger? 2 three pointers by Barham in the second half to up the lead to 15 with just over 8 minutes to go. But we won't be letting the pedal off that medal because Dower said so. Dower gets a few more rebounds and good looks to get another double double.

Defensive alignments:

This team has a lot of seniors, and you know they want to go out with a win on Gonzaga. But they do not like to pass the ball (217th in assists per game)

I would seriously consider putting Bell on Bock for this game. Overall, Pacific's defense isn't incredibly good even though they have 5 players with almost a steal per game. They lack defensive qualities that aren't seen on the stat sheet. The eye test isn't there.

So that should make for a good day for the Zags. Push the ball, get hot, and don't let up. Its time to win the conference outright.

Gonzaga 81
Pacific 66

The bench comes in with 30 seconds to go.

Go Zags!

Arneson
02-25-2014, 11:22 AM
I would sacrifice all of Barhams minutes for Coleman or Nunez. I know the guy can get on fire from 3 but between Bell and Pangos we have enough 3 point efficiency and I think having Nunez for his defensive wingspan and athleticism or Coleman's energy and slashing abilities strengthen this team a lot. I would like to see what happens if Coleman gets 20+ minutes.

MTZag03
02-25-2014, 11:30 AM
Pessimistic plan is of course the 3 small guard lineup with lots of perimeter passing, digging ourselves into another hole on the road. Seriously, any plan other than this is good.

How about a high low utilizing nunez to dower and nunez to karno? Throw someone out there who can drive.

gonzagafan62
02-25-2014, 11:32 AM
I would sacrifice all of Barhams minutes for Coleman or Nunez. I know the guy can get on fire from 3 but between Bell and Pangos we have enough 3 point efficiency and I think having Nunez for his defensive wingspan and athleticism or Coleman's energy and slashing abilities strengthen this team a lot. I would like to see what happens if Coleman gets 20+ minutes.

Exactly what I was thinking Arneson. I would love to see Coleman get 20+. Fact is though, he won't get that unless Few makes some serious moves to the lineup. Based on Barham's most recent minute totals, he is still getting around 12-13 minutes total on average. I put him at 6, which is a stretch to begin with, but that's where I would put him right now.

gonzagafan62
02-25-2014, 11:34 AM
Pessimistic plan is of course the 3 small guard lineup with lots of perimeter passing, digging ourselves into another hole on the road. Seriously, any plan other than this is good.

How about a high low utilizing nunez to dower and nunez to karno? Throw someone out there who can drive.

Bingo!

exclusivelee
02-25-2014, 11:46 AM
Only 13 min for Draino and only 5 for Barham? Umm...

gonzagafan62
02-25-2014, 11:53 AM
Only 13 min for Draino and only 5 for Barham? Umm...

I would like to give more than 13 to Draino. But he has been given more minutes in the last two games when Playing USD and BYU. BYU he logged 30 and USD 21. I think he is going back to what he did against Peperdine and Memphis which was 16 and 12 minutes. So 13 really isn't "out there" persay, but in a game like this I know Mark likes to depend on seniors rather than guys that come off the bench. Which totally disqualifies my theory on Barham, but he's just a three point specialist.

This is the plan I and I say "I" made for what "I" would do. I wouldn't log Barham a whole lot of minutes. I would rather see Draino and Coleman in there, but if we see more Coleman, you will get less of Barham and Dranginis.

Remember, everything has to add up to 40 minutes. Its a lot harder to give minutes than most think. Try it! LOL!

Anyway that is what I would like to see exclusivelee. Not necessarily what Few would do.

Zagceo
02-25-2014, 12:36 PM
I would like to see full court pressure for short stretches in the game. Use Coleman, Nunez and Drano and run them hard when resting DS KP and GB.

77Zag
02-25-2014, 12:39 PM
My Game Plan is much simpler --

Early dinner at Stockton Joe's with family and fellow alums visiting from the Northwest
GU Alum Social on UOP campus
Enter Spanos Center about 30 mins prior to tip - sitting pretty darn close to our bench
Watch the look on the faces of the Tiger fans in amazement to see how many Zag fans show for their team
Root my arse off for the win and another WCC Title to ourselves.


We will win - period.

Repeat & reload on Saturday in Moraga.

Go Zags - Beat UOP

RenoZag
02-25-2014, 12:46 PM
My Game Plan is much simpler --

Early dinner at Stockton Joe's with family and fellow alums visiting from the Northwest
GU Alum Social on UOP campus
Enter Spanos Center about 30 mins prior to tip - sitting pretty darn close to our bench
Watch the look on the faces of the Tiger fans in amazement to see how many Zag fans show for their team
Root my arse off for the win and another WCC Title to ourselves.


We will win - period.

Repeat & reload on Saturday in Moraga.

Go Zags - Beat UOP

I tried Stockton Joe's after they moved to a different location in Lincoln Center about a year ago. . .have they rebounded to previous form ?

77Zag
02-25-2014, 12:57 PM
I tried Stockton Joe's after they moved to a different location in Lincoln Center about a year ago. . .have they rebounded to previous form ?

Not sure, it's been some time since I've hit Stockton Joe's -- perhaps I need to have some options?

Zagceo
02-25-2014, 12:57 PM
My Game Plan is much simpler --

Early dinner at Stockton Joe's with family and fellow alums visiting from the Northwest
GU Alum Social on UOP campus
Enter Spanos Center about 30 mins prior to tip - sitting pretty darn close to our bench
Watch the look on the faces of the Tiger fans in amazement to see how many Zag fans show for their team
Root my arse off for the win and another WCC Title to ourselves.


We will win - period.

Repeat & reload on Saturday in Moraga.

Go Zags - Beat UOP

Excellent plan!

I would just ask one thing of our Zag fans in attendance.............please do not storm the court after. ;)

77Zag
02-25-2014, 01:00 PM
Excellent plan!

I would just ask one thing of our Zag fans in attendance.............please do not storm the court after. ;)

More likely to storm the bar when I get home...cheers!

RenoZag
02-25-2014, 01:17 PM
Not sure, it's been some time since I've hit Stockton Joe's -- perhaps I need to have some options?

When I lived in Tracy, I went to Joe's location on March Lane all the time. . .excellent food, service, etc. Thought the same when they first relocated to Lincoln Center. They moved to a different storefront within Lincoln Center last year and I went there in May 2013. It was a bit of a letdown from my previous experiences. You might check with some folks in the valley who have been there more recently. I might have caught them on an "off" night.

Have fun & enjoy the festivities !

ZAGGED OUT
02-25-2014, 01:37 PM
Using Coleman and Nunez is all about matchups. If we play man defense I see them both getting more minutes, 10-15 maybe. If its a zone, it's dependent on our lead (thy wont get in if its tight) and how they handle their defensive assignments when they do get a chance. Also, concerning the op, I'd like to see stocks with 23 and draino with 20 minutes


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TigerFan
02-25-2014, 01:45 PM
When I lived in Tracy, I went to Joe's location on March Lane all the time. . .excellent food, service, etc. Thought the same when they first relocated to Lincoln Center. They moved to a different storefront within Lincoln Center last year and I went there in May 2013. It was a bit of a letdown from my previous experiences. You might check with some folks in the valley who have been there more recently. I might have caught them on an "off" night.

Have fun & enjoy the festivities !

Stockton Joe's closed down. However, if you are in town go to Market Tavern which opened up in the former Stockton Joe's location in Lincoln Center. Great food and atmosphere. Then go watch your Zags get beat. Lol. Ok...maybe not but TigerFan can at least hope for a tight game.

GoZags
02-25-2014, 02:00 PM
Stockton Joe's closed down. However, if you are in town go to Market Tavern which opened up in the former Stockton Joe's location in Lincoln Center. Great food and atmosphere. Then go watch your Zags get beat. Lol. Ok...maybe not but TigerFan can at least hope for a tight game.

Don't sell your guys short .... there's a reason they play the game. It wasn't too long ago (i.e. a week and a half or so ago) I thoroughly enjoyed the whuppin' your guys put on those Koogers from Utah. I'm hoping for a "different" outcome on Thursday .... and as you can see from our board .... we have tons of guys that are willing to help our Coaching staff achieve that goal.

Kiddwell
02-25-2014, 02:00 PM
Play like champs! Bring some swagger! Get mad, and knock down those treys! :boxing:



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wnczagfan
02-25-2014, 02:18 PM
My favorite is the part where we are winning enough for bhaskar to get a chance to shoot the three ball!

RenoZag
02-25-2014, 02:23 PM
Stockton Joe's closed down. However, if you are in town go to Market Tavern which opened up in the former Stockton Joe's location in Lincoln Center. Great food and atmosphere. Then go watch your Zags get beat. Lol. Ok...maybe not but TigerFan can at least hope for a tight game.

Thanks for the local knowledge.

wnczagfan
02-25-2014, 05:01 PM
David Stockton - 30 minutes 30 seconds


He can play the 30 minutes anytime, but after watching the USD game, I prefer he play the extra 30 seconds at the end! (Driving layup, three pointer; 5 points in 30 seconds)

Go David!

bartruff1
02-25-2014, 05:28 PM
I don't think it is very complicated....Kevin has to play well or Gonzaga loses...well, might mean 15 points ...4 assists....5/5 free throws....2 or less turn overs....a couple steals and a couple rebounds...

They might still lose, but I don't think they can win if he doesn't play well.

wnczagfan
02-25-2014, 06:00 PM
Most important part of game plan: No Black Unis!

Reborn
02-25-2014, 06:44 PM
Gonzaga's offense has been anemic in the last three road games (66,65,54), and I think it just might be smart to try something different. Coleman, imo, is unstoppable in the WCC. I am surprised that Few is accepting the "status quo" of his team. I'm anxious to see that Few's plan is going to be to reignite some offense. Like has been said here a number of times, his offense is boring, and more boring. It's time for a change. This used to be a team which could score in the 80's.

I'm looking who was the USD player who hurt the Zags because I thought we did a good job defending Dee and Anderson. It was a sub who got 15 and Dranginis and Barham were guarding him mostly. You see what I mean? I remember Barham falling into him to give him 3 shots at the foul line, and that was when GU got the lead down to 4, and it went back to 7 on a stupid foul. Yes stupid. And as the announcer said, that kind of foul comes when a defender is out of position and runs at the shooter. Barham actually stumbles into him. This is the kind of lack of intensity I am talking about. Pangos' turnovers around the 4 min mark were unbelievably stupid. And he did the same thing against BYU. Where is his leadership?

starters: Pangos, Bell, Barham, Dower and Karno.
Coleman in for Barham and Nunez in for PK at the 14 minute mark.
Stockton in for Pangos at the 12:00 min mark, Dranginis in for Bell, and PK in for Dower at the 10:00 minute mark.
Pangos back in for Coleman and Dower in for Nunez at the 5 min mark. Bell in for Stockton at the 4 minute mark.

2nd half:

Pangos, Bell, Barham, Dower and Karno.
Coleman in for Barham and Nunez in for PK at the 14 min mark.
Stockton in for Pangos at the 12:00 min mark; Dranginis in for Bell and Pk in for Dower at the 10:00 mark.
Pangos in for Coleman and Dower in for Nunez at the 5 min mark. Nunez back in for Pk at the 3 min mark. Bell in for Stockton with 4 minutes to go in the game. Stockton in for Dranginis with two and a half min to play.

Pangos with 26 minutes
Bell with 28 minutes
Barham with 12
PK with 29 minutes
Dower 30 minutes

Stockton with 18 and a half minutes
Nunez with 21 minutes
Coleman with 18 minutes
Dranginis with 17 and a half

Personally I wish Few would have done this all along time ago because in the system I just typed down Few is rewarding the Bench players who have had such a significant part of the success of the Zags. I was curious about what Few would do after Bell and Dower got back playing full-time. IMO I believe Few kind of put those guys who did so well for a month, and brought GU what I would say were the Zags best wins of the season. Those guys had the chemistry that the guys who have since been the starters have never had. Also in my model Coleman and Nunez have a much bigger role, which I feel they should have. My model also gives Dower and PK a little more rest, which I feel they need. When our bigs get tired they play worse. Dower missed 3 Foul Shots and a 3 foot hook (which he normally makes) around the 8 minute mark. I think he was tired, and he had just gotten hit in the eye. Few left him in. Also I remember a play after Gu had gotten the lead down to 3 points with about 4 to go and Johnny Dee hit their center for an uncontested lay up down low. PK had fallen asleep. Maybe he needed more rest. If Few would play Nunez more both Dower and PK could have more rest.

CdAZagFan
02-25-2014, 07:30 PM
Gonzaga's offense has been anemic in the last three road games (66,65,54), and I think it just might be smart to try something different. Coleman, imo, is unstoppable in the WCC. I am surprised that Few is accepting the "status quo" of his team. I'm anxious to see that Few's plan is going to be to reignite some offense. Like has been said here a number of times, his offense is boring, and more boring. It's time for a change. This used to be a team which could score in the 80's.

I still think with the smaller lineup they have this year, along with Coleman and Nunez, this team is better off pushing the ball in transition. They've got to get some easier baskets. I know the low post works when the guards get it in there, but this year that lends itself to a tight game (no matter the opposition). Plus someone mentioned it earlier, do some pressing, push the ball… And get that swagger back!

Zagdawg
02-25-2014, 07:53 PM
Pacific likes to play physical and use their multitude of bodies to wear down the opposition-- Karnowski is going to spend the night on the FT line and he needs to make them to keep them honest.

kitzbuel
02-25-2014, 08:35 PM
Be vewy, vewy quite. We're hunting tigers.

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5134c6016bb3f71a1f000040-1200/in-2008-putin-went-on-a-tiger-hunt-in-the-russian-far-east-as-part-of-a-scientific-expedition.jpg

Reborn
02-25-2014, 08:42 PM
I still think with the smaller lineup they have this year, along with Coleman and Nunez, this team is better off pushing the ball in transition. They've got to get some easier baskets. I know the low post works when the guards get it in there, but this year that lends itself to a tight game (no matter the opposition). Plus someone mentioned it earlier, do some pressing, push the ball… And get that swagger back!

I totally agree. Why is it that we always let the opposition dictate what style we will play? GU WAS once an up-tempo team, before the toe. Why change our style of play. Get out and run again. I have never liked any of the Zag teams who suddenly began walking the ball up court. To me it's Few's style of playing it safe, trying to keep the score low so the Zags will have a chance to win. If he plays the healthy guys more, and shows that he trusts them, we will begin to blow teams out again.

Let's play FOOT LOOSE. Let's fly down that court.

kitzbuel
02-26-2014, 02:32 AM
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jim77
02-26-2014, 11:08 AM
I'd like to see Nunez start at the 3. I also don't think Pacific can stop our inside game....and If they try 2 hard our guards will get good looks. I'd limit KP to 15 20 minutes.....prediction? GBJ has his highest point total of the year and Pacific is gonna have its hands full with our bigs.

kyle dixon
02-26-2014, 11:11 AM
just win baby! Insert music now....

Zagger
02-26-2014, 12:47 PM
Come out shooting and don't stop shooting. Whilst doing that - REBOUND as needed.

GUZag08
02-26-2014, 01:06 PM
Dump the ball down low and play inside out. Dower and Karnowski are the strength of the team

kitzbuel
02-26-2014, 02:14 PM
Come out shooting and don't stop shooting. Whilst doing that - REBOUND as needed.

We don't need any offensive rebounds if we make all our shots.

Baseline
02-26-2014, 04:50 PM
I would Set Pangos and Play KD full time.
When Shem takes a break I would play Ryan and keep pounding it inside.
Lets see what Coleman can do if he plays a full game, give him the rock and end the controversy.
If the 3's don't fall pound it inside or let KD and Coleman drive all night.

Mantua
02-26-2014, 06:42 PM
I just hope to see a different game plan.

willandi
02-26-2014, 06:53 PM
Weren't the three consecutive dunks in the SD game due to a failure to rotate and cover on defense on Coleman's part? Thought I read that somewhere, maybe in the Meehan article. If true, he has to make a lot of offense to overcome that kind of defensive lapse. Sorry, if true, it bursts some ideological bubbles. If not, sorry I didn't remember right. Not trying to throw him under the bus, just remember reading that as why his minutes were limited in the 2nd half.