Post Game radio side comment

[Zags11]

Violette said "Carlino has the courage to shoot and fail. He can fail repeatedly but will shoot next shot. Zags dont have this type of player."

I disagree. Pangos will.

thoughts??

[CDC84]

The problem is that Carlino shoots BYU out of basketball games, which is why he comes off the pine.

A 100% healthy Pangos has no fear of shooting and failing. But when you are playing at 60% (I don't buy his argument that the turf toe is 90%+ healed - he still has nowhere near the first step and acceleration off the bounce that he had in Maui), it really limits your aggressiveness.

[Zags11]

I agree. Hence, why I was shocked at violettes opinion.

[jazzdelmar]

agree KP is the only Zag with that mentality. im guessing Cory was talking about a toed KP.....the worst offenders are Barham (a better than avg shooter) and KD (an average shooter), they must lead the lg in pump fakes...and of course Bell who appears passive aggressive, at times running away from the shot and then chucking them up....one question: has Nunez actually made an outside shot this year? Coleman has one, I think.....this was a team that led the US in scoring the first few wks.....that team was fearless, this team is super hesitant.

[Section 116]

Jazz, I believe you are on the right track! Few had a quote in the Spokesman Review today "We had a couple guys that weren't ready to compete tonight!"

[Zags11]

Wow. He said that? Seems right.

[drvenkman05]

Then WHY were they kept on the floor? Once again, Few has no problem slamming players AFTER a game but refuses to do anything meaningful DURING the game.

Jazz, I believe you are on the right track! Few had a quote in the Spokesman Review today "We had a couple guys that weren't ready to compete tonight!"

[CDC84]

I keep saying that Few should keep Gary Bell Jr. out of the starting lineup to send a message to him. "You're not starting until you start hunting out your shot more. Pangos is 60% the rest of year. You must score. Until you start initiating offense, we're going with someone else. As soon as you start hunting out your shot, you'll start again."

Gary needs a kick in the rear from Few. Whining on his radio show has proven ineffective. He NEEDS to send a message. Coach K does this kind of thing as do many great coaches. It's not a punitive measure, but a way of igniting players who are capable of more.

[Zagceo]

Jazz, I believe you are on the right track! Few had a quote in the Spokesman Review today "We had a couple guys that weren't ready to compete tonight!"

So do we think Coach Few figured this out after the game? I would like to hear the coach say I made a mistake. I should have done a better job with my substitutions. Few can't control bad performances but he can limit their impact over the course of a game with the proper substitutions.

[jazzdelmar]

Love to see a STARTING LINEUP of DS, KD, Coleman, Dower and Karno (actually Edwards, but why push it)......That would be coaching.

[cjm720]

So do we think Coach Few figured this out after the game? I would like to hear the coach say I made a mistake. I should have done a better job with my substitutions. Few can't control bad performances but he can limit their impact over the course of a game with the proper substitutions.

But what if his best option was on the court? That seems to be the case all year. That is, there's a reason why Angel isn't getting time (assuming he's talking about Karno).

[cbbfanatic]

I keep saying that Few should keep Gary Bell Jr. out of the starting lineup to send a message to him. "You're not starting until you start hunting out your shot more. Pangos is 60% the rest of year. You must score. Until you start initiating offense, we're going with someone else. As soon as you start hunting out your shot, you'll start again."

Gary needs a kick in the rear from Few. Whining on his radio show has proven ineffective. He NEEDS to send a message. Coach K does this kind of thing as do many great coaches. It's not a punitive measure, but a way of igniting players who are capable of more.

for a kid thats been the in program for 3 years, i dont see this having the impact that you suggest. it is very difficult to change your mentality when you've been playing a certain way for a long time. much easier to "break" him of that as a frosh (coming into a new team, system, etc) than a late in the year jr. i think its part of the player that he is. psychological/behavioral things like this take more than a benching to change, otherwise it would have changed long ago, i would think.

[TacomaZAG]

agree KP is the only Zag with that mentality. im guessing Cory was talking about a toed KP.....the worst offenders are Barham (a better than avg shooter) and KD (an average shooter), they must lead the lg in pump fakes...and of course Bell who appears passive aggressive, at times running away from the shot and then chucking them up....one question: has Nunez actually made an outside shot this year? Coleman has one, I think.....this was a team that led the US in scoring the first few wks.....that team was fearless, this team is super hesitant.

+1 Jazz.

I call it regression toward the mean. The problem is that the Maui team and the current team are EXACTLY the same team, no improvements, no adjustments, no changes. We stayed the same and everyone else improved, so we have regressed by comparison. This is also a "classic" Few team. In a big game or when it comes to crunch time, get more conservative and do things even more the same. Never take a chance, never play a hunch, just "keep sawing wood" and hope not to lose. Can't blame the long term injuries, they are part of the game and part of the "chess match" of game preparation.

We are really easy to game plan for opposing coaches, because nothing ever changes. Everybody knows who the starting 5 will be and who will get the major minutes. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Go ZAGS

[EEzag]

for a kid thats been the in program for 3 years, i dont see this having the impact that you suggest. it is very difficult to change your mentality when you've been playing a certain way for a long time. much easier to "break" him of that as a frosh (coming into a new team, system, etc) than a late in the year jr. i think its part of the player that he is. psychological/behavioral things like this take more than a benching to change, otherwise it would have changed long ago, i would think.

Broken hand and broken foot might have something to do with it. He reminds me of Gray. Great offensive potential, but lets the game come to him too much. He is still a great perimeter defender and alas will keep him on the floor most nights.

[Zagceo]

But what if his best option was on the court? That seems to be the case all year. That is, there's a reason why Angel isn't getting time (assuming he's talking about Karno).

Few gives an interview and calls out his players for a no show game I believe I have the same complaint against the coach. Players have bad games it happens but coaches who stick with those players should not happen. Loyal to a fault makes you a weak coach.