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BobZag
11-29-2013, 10:24 AM
If you could have one player from another team to add to the Zags team, who would it be? Jabari Parker and all the super frosh are kinda obvious, but let's limit this to guys who've been in college for atleast two years. Savvy?

That said, I love Smart, he's going nowhere but up in the draft and is just flat-out great. But to have McDermott inside for us would be massive. It's close, but I'd opt for McDermott.

Dream a little with all that turkey digesting in ya.

bartruff1
11-29-2013, 10:35 AM
McDermott a much better fit...BUT....Smart would make a heck of a three or four !!!

thickman1
11-29-2013, 10:43 AM
When I read the topic title it was a no-brainer. I'd take Smart every day and twice on Sunday's. However, the question you pose does make it more difficult. While having Smart would be nice it'd be a luxury that we really don't need. I would have to opt for McDermott because he really would complete the roster with that 3rd big.

bigblahla
11-29-2013, 10:43 AM
Here's a surprise, Brad Waldow. He'd fill the hole down low and compliments the team.

min ppg rpg apg spg bpg tpg fg% ft%
26.4 17.6 7.6 2.2 0.6 2.4 0.4 .642 .667

Just my opinion.

Go!! Zags

gonzagafan62
11-29-2013, 10:49 AM
I would take Marcus Smart. We saw him last year. He would be frightening to see this year.

BTB
11-29-2013, 11:01 AM
Marcus Smart. McDermott would be a better fit for us but there is no way I'd pass on Smart. He is way too good. If we had Smart we wouldn't need the Stockton-Coleman debate :)

jazzdelmar
11-29-2013, 11:12 AM
Joe Harris...may as well pick a Zag-type......Smart is great but he wd impair Kevin and Gary to some extent.....2nd choice, another Zagger, wd be Nicky Johnson

Marcus
11-29-2013, 11:15 AM
All good choices, but if I could pick one player to be here for his seinor year, it would be Olynyk. I just dream about how good this team would be with him as our starting center.

jazzdelmar
11-29-2013, 11:16 AM
All good choices, but if I could pick one player to be here for his seinor year, it would be Olynyk. I just dream about how good this team would be with him as our starting center.

QED

MDABE80
11-29-2013, 11:34 AM
To fit with this team? Doug McDermott...............perfect.

john montana
11-29-2013, 12:32 PM
For this team? McDermott in a hearbeat. No question.

CDC84
11-29-2013, 01:35 PM
I would rather have Marcus Smart on my team than Kevin Pangos, but Gonzaga's need for a tall scorer at small forward supersedes anything extra that Marcus would bring to Gonzaga that Kevin is currently unable to. Therefore, I would choose McDermott, although he wouldn't help Gonzaga much defensively. But he would make the offense even more lethal than it already is. Plus, there's no question who the go to guy would be in the closing minutes.

Now if I were starting a team from complete scratch, I would not only take Smart over McDermott, but I would take him over any player in the nation. Coach Few only coached him one summer, but he called Marcus the toughest basketball player he's ever coached, and the greatest basketball leader he's ever coached. He also plays extremely hard on both ends (he's an outstanding defender) every minute he's out there. McDermott scores a lot of points, but he doesn't command the respect of teammates and coaches like Smart does. He leads by example and makes everyone surrounding him better. The only missing piece in his arsenal was a jump shot, and now he's got it.

MDABE80
11-29-2013, 01:50 PM
No subbing CDC........THIS team.

Martin Centre Mad Man
11-29-2013, 02:56 PM
Ryan Spangler.

The509sfinest
11-30-2013, 05:22 AM
Bol Kong! oh, no? ok i will shut up now :(

wiszag
11-30-2013, 06:31 AM
McDermott. I was going to try to make an argument for Frank Kaminsky from Wisconsin until I compared their stats and realized it would be foolish.

Jordan Morgan would be a nice fit on this team too but McDermott is the right choice. Joe Harris would be a huge help to this team.

Reborn
11-30-2013, 06:40 AM
Marcus Smart. He's tougher imo, and since this a year of guards, we might as well have one more. He would help us out on defense. He's better than Stockton, imo, and Few likes guards. In fact, as CDC said, Few likes Smart alot. I would love to see the team with Pangos, Bell and Smart. Wow!

I really like how Few has built this team around guards who are fast, can pass and dribble and shoot the light out from behind the 3 AND attack the basket wit the dribble. I just believe Marcus Smart would really fit in with this team. McDermott is the kind of player who excels in a half court offense and play for a team who may score in the 80's vs the 90's.

I love this Zag team, and they're growing on me more each week. I would want a player who would not disrupt the team chemistry of this team, and would make it more cohesive and fluid. I believe that Marcus Smart would add to this. Marcus Smart, imo, is a lot like Kevin Pangos and would be excellent team mates. They are both leaders and their main interest is winning. I like his personality alot, and he would bring a little more looseness and fun to the team, which really helps team chemistry.

CarolinaZagFan
11-30-2013, 07:36 AM
McDermott a much better fit...BUT....Smart would make a heck of a three or four !!!

LOL! +1

titopoet
11-30-2013, 07:37 AM
Marcus Smart. He's tougher imo, and since this a year of guards, we might as well have one more. He would help us out on defense. He's better than Stockton, imo, and Few likes guards. In fact, as CDC said, Few likes Smart alot. I would love to see the team with Pangos, Bell and Smart. Wow!

I really like how Few has built this team around guards who are fast, can pass and dribble and shoot the light out from behind the 3 AND attack the basket wit the dribble. I just believe Marcus Smart would really fit in with this team. McDermott is the kind of player who excels in a half court offense and play for a team who may score in the 80's vs the 90's.

I love this Zag team, and they're growing on me more each week. I would want a player who would not disrupt the team chemistry of this team, and would make it more cohesive and fluid. I believe that Marcus Smart would add to this. Marcus Smart, imo, is a lot like Kevin Pangos and would be excellent team mates. They are both leaders and their main interest is winning. I like his personality alot, and he would bring a little more looseness and fun to the team, which really helps team chemistry.
Randle or Gordon, but Randle or sure as the weakness of the Zags is a thin frontcourt. With the offense firepower and his low post presence GU would be dominate.

webspinnre
11-30-2013, 07:52 AM
I love Smart, but we've already got a top-notch PG in Pangos (even if a bit below Smart), where we're in desperate need of depth at forward. Give me McDermott every day.

titopoet
11-30-2013, 08:39 AM
I love Smart, but we've already got a top-notch PG in Pangos (even if a bit below Smart), where we're in desperate need of depth at forward. Give me McDermott every day.

Does Gu need a high volume shooter or better a super rebounder like Julius Randle? McDermott would want a lot of shots to get his points, and that mean Pangos and the rest would turn in to Grant Gibbs, guys supporting McDermott. McDermott has taken 40 more shots than Randle, even playing a game less. Randle would get his within GU offense and his rebounding would make GU one of the favorite to win it all. Pangos would get more open looks with Randle, Dower and Karno down low. McDermott wouldn't increase our chances that much. Randle helps in all the areas GU needs to compete for a NC.

john montana
11-30-2013, 08:54 AM
Original question limited answers to two year college players...hence McDermott/smart. Take that limitation away and it is a different discussion.

zagamatic
11-30-2013, 09:22 AM
I'd take Dwight Powell from Stanford. Reminds me a ton of Heytvelt with more upside. And he's more of an above the rim big than we have. It would give us three distinctly different types of big guys for other teams to have to try and match up with

titopoet
11-30-2013, 10:36 AM
Original question limited answers to two year college players...hence McDermott/smart. Take that limitation away and it is a different discussion.

I am sure as Bobzag mention Parker in the original post.

Worthington
11-30-2013, 10:52 AM
Smart and McDermott have got to be the best choices (I'd probably go with McDermott for this team), but I'd also consider;

Sam Dekker
Nik Stauskas
Cory Jefferson
Gary Harris
Adreian Payne
Rodney Hood
Montrezl Harrell

and I'm sure a few more could be named

maynard g krebs
11-30-2013, 05:20 PM
The one who got away- Moser. A rebounder who could run with the guards and shoot the 3, as well as score inside. Sadly, I think he'd have been the perfect piece to complete the puzzle. 14 boards today.

El Zag
11-30-2013, 10:25 PM
Also,



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Zagdawg
11-30-2013, 10:39 PM
35% from the line makes Karnowski look good---but overall we knew he was going to be a good one.

We couldn't have both our bigs shooting that bad from the line :) and I am sure he is happy to be back home.

Zageist
12-02-2013, 12:25 PM
Ryan Spangler.


+1. Man, we could use him.

northsidezagfan
12-02-2013, 12:34 PM
Rough one for both of them last night.

Brown Paper Zag
12-04-2013, 03:30 PM
I saw Marcus Smart play in Las Vegas a couple of summers ago. That kid was (and is) a beast and definitly will be playing at a high level in the NBA soon. In the game I watched however, Smart struggled a bit. The recap stated "The majority of the coaches were in the house to see Marcus Smart, a 6′-4″ 2012 wing from Marcus (TX), but he didnít play exceptionally well. Smart never seemed to get into his groove during the game." (http://hoopniks.com/vegas-week-saturday-recap/). Interestingly enough, Smart was guarded by a skinny white kid playing for Clutch Players out of Portland, OR, who is now a Freshman walk-on for Gonzaga. Probably one of the best defiesive efforts I have ever seen at the high school level - especially in Las Vegas where the emphasis seems to always be on offense. Hope to see Connor Griffin playing some big time D for Gonzaga in the next 4 years.

Birddog
12-04-2013, 04:04 PM
I saw Marcus Smart play in Las Vegas a couple of summers ago. That kid was (and is) a beast and definitly will be playing at a high level in the NBA soon. In the game I watched however, Smart struggled a bit. The recap stated "The majority of the coaches were in the house to see Marcus Smart, a 6′-4″ 2012 wing from Marcus (TX), but he didn’t play exceptionally well. Smart never seemed to get into his groove during the game." (http://hoopniks.com/vegas-week-saturday-recap/). Interestingly enough, Smart was guarded by a skinny white kid playing for Clutch Players out of Portland, OR, who is now a Freshman walk-on for Gonzaga. Probably one of the best defiesive efforts I have ever seen at the high school level - especially in Las Vegas where the emphasis seems to always be on offense. Hope to see Connor Griffin playing some big time D for Gonzaga in the next 4 years.

Priceless!

northsidezagfan
12-04-2013, 04:06 PM
I saw Marcus Smart play in Las Vegas a couple of summers ago. That kid was (and is) a beast and definitly will be playing at a high level in the NBA soon. In the game I watched however, Smart struggled a bit. The recap stated "The majority of the coaches were in the house to see Marcus Smart, a 6′-4″ 2012 wing from Marcus (TX), but he didn’t play exceptionally well. Smart never seemed to get into his groove during the game." (http://hoopniks.com/vegas-week-saturday-recap/). Interestingly enough, Smart was guarded by a skinny white kid playing for Clutch Players out of Portland, OR, who is now a Freshman walk-on for Gonzaga. Probably one of the best defiesive efforts I have ever seen at the high school level - especially in Las Vegas where the emphasis seems to always be on offense. Hope to see Connor Griffin playing some big time D for Gonzaga in the next 4 years.

That's pretty awesome.

Zagdawg
12-04-2013, 04:20 PM
Outstanding!

ZagaZags
12-04-2013, 10:07 PM
Ryan Spangler.

+1

But to answer the question, I would take Smart. ( can we have both and add Spangler? ) Final Four that would be.