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Zagdawg
11-12-2013, 08:03 AM
Two Game Stats
Avg 96.5 pts per game
Rebound avg 39 +7.5
Assist avg. 16
TO avg. 9
FT avg 73% (Big K at 67%)
3 Pt avg 42%


Bell 19 pts 2 RBs 3 Assists
Coleman 15.5 pts 2.5 RBs 1 Assist
Dower 14.5 pts 13 RBs
Pangos 13.5 pts 1 RBs 4 Assists
Karnowski 9 pts 5.5 RBs
Dranginis 8 pts 4 RBs 2.5 Assists
Stockton 8 pts 1.5 RBs 4 Assists
Barham 5.5 pts 4 RBs
Griffin 1.5 pts 1 RB
Meikle 1 pt 2.5 RBs
Bhaskar 1 pt

We are missing Edwards still and Nunez --- we should see rebounding improve as we move forward into the year.

After initial glances at the numbers-- any surprises?

scott257
11-12-2013, 08:22 AM
These stats are not correct. Dower had more points than that in the first game.

MTZag03
11-12-2013, 08:26 AM
These stats are not correct. Dower had more points than that in the first game.

Those are averages, not combined numbers.

I am a bit surprised we have been out rebounding even with our small lineups. I guess we are playing small opponents though. I'm definitely surprised by Dower's rebounding intensity this year.

rijman
11-12-2013, 08:44 AM
The free throw numbers are much better than last seasons start, although they improved as the season went on. I wouldn't mind seeing 4 GU players averaging 13+ points at the end of the season. The turnover numbers are good for starting the season, although similar to total points that might be a reflection of the competition thus far.

Zagdawg
11-12-2013, 08:47 AM
In Fews interview he mentioned that Colorado State led the country in rebounding last year (given all 5 starters are gone now)-- but our guys still went after the ball against a very physical rebounding team (Karnowski received a few extra slaps and shots).

TacomaZAG
11-12-2013, 09:00 AM
I would caution the Kool-Aid drinkers to not read too much into these stats, as both our opponents so far, on which these stats are based, are TERRIBLE. The thing that jumps out at me from the first two games are that our rebounding advantages weren't higher than +7.5, given that Bryant has no one on their roster over 6'-8" and CSU is just plain bad. Also, what jumps out at me from the first two games is that our perimeter defense got torched for 30+ from Starks at Bryant and 25+ from Odsus (sp?) at CSU. These guys are good players but they are not anywhere near the talent level of the guys we will be facing in Maui and later on in the season. I realize both games were blowouts but still........

I love the FT% and the 3-point shooting percentages, but would expect the 3-point numbers given how open the guys have been.

It will be interesting to watch how the minutes are distributed, especially between Stocks and Coleman, as we get to Maui and beyond.

Go ZAGS

exclusivelee
11-12-2013, 10:58 AM
Two Game Stats
Avg 96.5 pts per game
Rebound avg 39 +7.5
Assist avg. 16
TO avg. 9
FT avg 73% (Big K at 67%)
3 Pt avg 42%


Bell 19 pts 2 RBs 3 Assists
Coleman 15.5 pts 2.5 RBs 1 Assist
Dower 14.5 pts 13 RBs
Pangos 13.5 pts 1 RBs 4 Assists
Karnowski 9 pts 5.5 RBs
Dranginis 8 pts 4 RBs 2.5 Assists
Stockton 8 pts 1.5 RBs 4 Assists
Barham 5.5 pts 4 RBs
Griffin 1.5 pts 1 RB
Meikle 1 pt 2.5 RBs
Bhaskar 1 pt

We are missing Edwards still and Nunez --- we should see rebounding improve as we move forward into the year.

Also of note, in terms of minutes played:

David Stockton: 29.5
Sam Dower: 28.5
Gary Bell: 26.5
Kevin Pangos: 24.5
Kyle Dranginis: 20.0
Gerard Coleman: 19.0
Przemek Karnowski: 19.0
Drew Barham: 16.5


Pretty much all accumulated in garbage time:

Luke Meikle: 8.5
Connor Griffin: 5.0
Brian Bhaskar: 3.0


In each game, Barham was first off the bench in place of Shem. Draino was 2nd off the bench in 1st game and 2nd off bench in 3rd game, Coleman was 3rd off bench in 1st game and 2nd off bench in 2nd game

gbnyba17
11-12-2013, 11:53 AM
The thing that jumps out at me from the first two games are that our rebounding advantages weren't higher than +7.5, given that Bryant has no one on their roster over 6'-8" and CSU is just plain bad.
Go ZAGS

I would bet that the average height for GU during a lot of the game was no bigger than our opponents. We have been running a lot of 4 guard sets so you need to compare apples to apples.

maynard g krebs
11-12-2013, 12:13 PM
what jumps out at me from the first two games is that our perimeter defense got torched for 30+ from Starks at Bryant and 25+ from Odsus (sp?) at CSU.

Garbage time points are a different animal from points scored in a competitive game.

maynard g krebs
11-12-2013, 12:33 PM
Some individual stuff:

FG% Karno 71.4, Dower 70.6, Coleman 66.7, Bell 63.2 (effective fg% 92.1).

Dower is averaging a rebound every 2.15 minutes, almost 3 times as many rebounds per min as last year.

Coleman is averaging 31.8 points per 40 minutes (82nd nationally), Bell 28.7 (148th).

Bell is shooting 64% from 3; the rest of the team combined is at 30%.

Oregonzagnut
11-12-2013, 02:14 PM
Statistically a great all-around game for everyone. However, every time I heard the name "Octeus" I envisioned a tentacled comic book villain and Gary Bell was the superhero with super three seeking powers.