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ehk 21
04-22-2013, 09:10 AM
Have I missed any news on the new assistant coach? Any updates would be appreciated.

gamagin
04-22-2013, 09:20 AM
his nickname is Lurch.

Birddog
04-22-2013, 09:21 AM
Several forum members are under consideration. The front runners are those that have demonstrated an ability to think "outside of the box" and who posess a deep knowledge of recruiting and potential PSA's. I'll let you guess who the leaders are.

DixieZag
04-22-2013, 09:34 AM
Several forum members are under consideration. The front runners are those that have demonstrated an ability to think "outside of the box" and who posess a deep knowledge of recruiting and potential PSA's. I'll let you guess who the leaders are.

I know how to make tacos

and carne asada for that matter.

Plus, I'll work for 2/3 of the current lowest paid assistant.

And, I don't even have a box.

Birddog
04-22-2013, 09:41 AM
I know how to make tacos

and carne asada for that matter.

Plus, I'll work for 2/3 of the current lowest paid assistant.

And, I don't even have a box.
"Outside of the box" is not a reference to Jack in the Box.

Angelo Roncalli
04-22-2013, 10:18 AM
I'll be on campus next Saturday and will be available to be interviewed for the position.

LongIslandZagFan
04-22-2013, 10:21 AM
his nickname is Lurch.

I think I went to school with that guy.

BobZag
04-22-2013, 10:29 AM
Michaelson.

Colbyspapa
04-22-2013, 10:43 AM
Does that mean we may see Mike Hart as a new grad assistant if he isn't playing in Europe?

thespywhozaggedme
04-22-2013, 10:59 AM
Does that mean we may see Mike Hart as a new grad assistant if he isn't playing in Europe?

I just logged on to literally post the exact same thought; great minds think alike. :cheers:

As I've been saying for a while Hart should be groomed ala Collins and Wojo at Duke. Look what it did for Chris Collins.

77Zag
04-22-2013, 11:01 AM
Does that mean we may see Mike Hart as a new grad assistant if he isn't playing in Europe?

I think this would be wonderful -- if any of his intensity could rub off on the players it would be great.

gamagin
04-22-2013, 01:26 PM
I think I went to school with that guy.

I think it was a sister . . .

willandi
04-22-2013, 01:50 PM
I think it was a sister . . .

...before she became a none?

BobZag
04-22-2013, 02:31 PM
Does that mean we may see Mike Hart as a new grad assistant if he isn't playing in Europe?

Don't know, but doubt it since he just finished playing.

DixieZag
04-22-2013, 03:28 PM
Don't know, but doubt it since he just finished playing.

BZ - Not saying that Michaelson isn't wholly deserving but have a question; isn't this position for a very senior, "co-coach" type (under only Tommy) that generally goes to someone who has been all over?

It would seem to me that the team would benefit from hearing a new voice with a different background? I think they might be better off creating a new position, either adding another coach or a more senior basketball op job for Michaelson who might also be in line for promotion.

gamagin
04-22-2013, 06:05 PM
Michaelson.

third hand today. Wouldn't bet on it. Wouldn't bet against it, either. fwiw.

bartruff1
04-23-2013, 06:13 AM
I suspect they will bring in a experienced and accomplishd coach.

Someone with a proven record. Someone outside the organization.

CDC84
04-23-2013, 08:32 AM
If Few's intention was to bring in an experienced, elite recruiter and defensive specialist, it would've probably happened by now. Coaching movements within the assistant ranks usually take place at the final four or soon afterwards. Recruiting season is well underway....it would take a lot for a first rate assistant to dump his current job for a new one.

BobZag
04-23-2013, 08:57 AM
BZ - Not saying that Michaelson isn't wholly deserving but have a question; isn't this position for a very senior, "co-coach" type (under only Tommy) that generally goes to someone who has been all over?

It would seem to me that the team would benefit from hearing a new voice with a different background? I think they might be better off creating a new position, either adding another coach or a more senior basketball op job for Michaelson who might also be in line for promotion.

No doubt, but all I'm hearing is Brian.

cjm720
04-23-2013, 10:29 AM
Michealson would be great, but it's not like he's be in position for the #2 chair...that'd be Tommy or Donny, right?

Oregon Zag
04-23-2013, 10:30 AM
Several forum members are under consideration. The front runners are those that have demonstrated an ability to think "outside of the box" and who posess a deep knowledge of recruiting and potential PSA's. I'll let you guess who the leaders are.

I heard WhooHoo was coming to town for an interview.

KStyles
04-23-2013, 10:54 AM
Michealson would be great, but it's not like he's be in position for the #2 chair...that'd be Tommy or Donny, right?

I believe that's been Tommy Lloyd since Leon Rice left.

kitzbuel
04-23-2013, 01:09 PM
I think I went to school with that guy.

Dude, I told you to quit calling me that.

bartruff1
04-23-2013, 02:18 PM
If Few's intention was to bring in an experienced, elite recruiter and defensive specialist, it would've probably happened by now. Coaching movements within the assistant ranks usually take place at the final four or soon afterwards. Recruiting season is well underway....it would take a lot for a first rate assistant to dump his current job for a new one.

Oddly enough, I have a 180 opposite view...to wit... if it was Michelson or someone on the staff, he would have announced it the day after Ray left... go figure...

gamagin
04-23-2013, 02:38 PM
Had Munson stayed, MF would/could still be an assistant. Had MF taken any of the many offers, Billy might be our HC. Or RAY G could have stuck at EWU or Utah and who knows who might have been here in his stead. Or, for that matter, who will be coming next.

Whatever the situation, the pattern seems pretty clear. In most cases, MF, faced with a known quantity versus an unknown, tends to go to, or back to, the known.

The other thing(s) that seem to come into play are the things we never hear about. And likely never will.

Like who are or were the dream athletes Few has pursued, and why they came or didn't come to GU ? Should everyone selected after that be listed as 2nd, 3rd, fourth etc., choice, if we did know ?

I don't think so. What would be the point ? Even at that, I don't know who ultimately fit where. I just know what MF et al have managed to achieve with those who came. The historic info is closely guarded. And should be.

Which is why in many cases these things are kept close to the vest. And should be.

My guess is the speculation is as much about the pattern as it is anything else. Michaelson fits right into it. He also would fit right into the program and contribute immediately.

I think it would take a kind of replacement like DD -- well known and long respected by MF -- to crack into this merry band. Given the pattern that hasn't changed except for DD (I believe).

gonwick
04-24-2013, 06:22 AM
Agree with many that an outside viewpoint from a coach would be helpful, maybe even necessary for the team's growth. Otherwise it becomes an echo chamber. Hard to think that someone who played under few then learned to coach under him would bring innovation or anything that might change some of the perennial faults of the program. Of course, there is something to be said for cohesiveness in the coaching staff and paying your dues. I just don't see how an inside hire helps with recruiting, defense, strategy, etc.

jpwils
04-24-2013, 07:33 AM
Can we hire Mike Hart?? Or is he planning on overseas?

A distant second would be a Tom Izzo disciple so as to impact toughness.

CDC84
04-24-2013, 07:44 AM
BTW - they may never put out a presser that Michaelson has been hired as the assistant. The first time we might find out that BM is the guy is when the Gonzaga athletics page updates its men's basketball roster. Don't be surprised, although I suspect a guy like Jim Meehan at S-R will break the news.

Mike Hart is a very smart guy who might be planning for a career that has nothing to do with basketball. I've heard nothing about him wanting to be a basketball coach. Whereas with Brian M., it was known around the program that he wanted to pursue it as a career.

GoZags
04-24-2013, 08:47 AM
Agree with many that an outside viewpoint from a coach would be helpful, maybe even necessary for the team's growth. Otherwise it becomes an echo chamber. Hard to think that someone who played under few then learned to coach under him would bring innovation or anything that might change some of the perennial faults of the program. Of course, there is something to be said for cohesiveness in the coaching staff and paying your dues. I just don't see how an inside hire helps with recruiting, defense, strategy, etc.

You don't want to make the Elite 8 again????

That's what happened the last time Gonzaga Men's Basketball hired an assistant coach from within (http://www.fanbase.com/Scott-Snider/career)

Oregonzagnut
04-24-2013, 08:56 AM
John Stockton.

IMO, he would be a huge addition but everyone including John has said this isn't going to happen.

I think he is an un-official coaching "consultant" anyway. I think he would be great on the bench in every way.

Zag 77
04-24-2013, 09:06 AM
JS is assistant girls basketball coach at Gonzaga Prep. His daughter Laura has 2 more years there. By then his son Sam will be at G-Prep and I would not be surprised to see John become as assistant boys coach.

hondo
04-24-2013, 09:22 AM
assistant coaches at the major college level probably put in 70 hour+ work weeks. Why would John be interested in leaving his family to fly off somewhere to watch high school kids that he does not even know? Maybe once in a while but college assistants are on the road a ton.

gamagin
04-24-2013, 09:24 AM
John Stockton.

IMO, he would be a huge addition but everyone including John has said this isn't going to happen.

I think he is an un-official coaching "consultant" anyway. I think he would be great on the bench in every way.

It fits his nature. He doesn't need/want a job. He has been very active in each of his six kids' lives. He's developing property.

But, you never know.

The only change I could see is once his kids are grown and gone (all but the baby will be outta college in about 5-6 years, I estimate), he might be looking for new challenges.

But I doubt he wants to be a visible force anywhere or anytime. He passed up 10's of millions (some say double or triple the amount he earned as a player), by turning down any & all major Nike-like contract endorsements over his illustrious career. This while teammate Karl Malone was making an estimated $18M atop his salary endorsing all kinds of stuff.

All this because he REALLY does enjoy & even require his privacy. Personally, I think he'd rather own than coach a team.

cjm720
04-24-2013, 09:34 AM
JS is assistant girls basketball coach at Gonzaga Prep. His daughter Laura has 2 more years there. By then his son Sam will be at G-Prep and I would not be surprised to see John become as assistant boys coach.

How many kids does he have? And do they compete in the family Hoopfest? :)

Angelo Roncalli
04-24-2013, 09:52 AM
It fits his nature. He doesn't need/want a job. He has been very active in each of his six kids' lives. He's developing property.

But, you never know.

The only change I could see is once his kids are grown and gone (all but the baby will be outta college in about 5-6 years, I estimate), he might be looking for new challenges.

But I doubt he wants to be a visible force anywhere or anytime. He passed up 10's of millions (some say double or triple the amount he earned as a player), by turning down any & all major Nike-like contract endorsements over his illustrious career. This while teammate Karl Malone was making an estimated $18M atop his salary endorsing all kinds of stuff.

All this because he REALLY does enjoy & even require his privacy. Personally, I think he'd rather own than coach a team.

Gam,

Can you see JS going on recruiting trips or attending AAU games? Not me...

gamagin
04-24-2013, 10:16 AM
Gam, Can you see JS going on recruiting trips or attending AAU games? Not me...

Only those involving family. Otherwise he's 100 % stealth.

Bing
04-24-2013, 02:24 PM
Agree with many that an outside viewpoint from a coach would be helpful, maybe even necessary for the team's growth. Otherwise it becomes an echo chamber. Hard to think that someone who played under few then learned to coach under him would bring innovation or anything that might change some of the perennial faults of the program. Of course, there is something to be said for cohesiveness in the coaching staff and paying your dues. I just don't see how an inside hire helps with recruiting, defense, strategy, etc.

I disagree.

I think having a coach that actually PLAYED at Gonzaga, and can accurately describe the unique aspects of what makes Gonzaga "special" (having lived it) beats getting a hired gun.

gonwick
04-24-2013, 06:39 PM
I disagree.

I think having a coach that actually PLAYED at Gonzaga, and can accurately describe the unique aspects of what makes Gonzaga "special" (having lived it) beats getting a hired gun.

That is a good point. There is value in a coach who can relate to players because he was in their shoes. Maybe he will be able to sell the program that way, although it seems that that angle would be covered by the players. I'm not sure that there should be a negative connotation to bringing in an outsider ("hired gun"). If they bring in new ideas or new recruiting resources, that seems a plus. Although michaelson has his assets as well.

zag70
04-24-2013, 07:17 PM
Brian is a great guy but REALLY, does Few need another yes man? Bring some new blood with different ideas or .....another one and out!

Purezzag
04-24-2013, 09:20 PM
Brian is a great guy but REALLY, does Few need another yes man? Bring some new blood with different ideas or .....another one and out!

If Coach Few brings in a top asst from a blue blood program then that will be the key to unlocking our long overdue spot in the Final Four? Great, simple, lets do it! Wait...hello Coach Daniels...we already did. Where is the Zags National Championship? Coach Few is not some egomaniac looking to hire his buddies to serve as his sounding boards. Tommy, Donny, Ray, no yes men there. Coach Few will hire a coach who he believes will help them build the program and win championships. I don't know if Brian is the best man for the job but he just might be. To think "new blood" is automatically better is shortsighted and perhaps incorrect. One of the winningest programs in the country, 32-3 and a #1 ranking this yr...I trust the coaches that built that to add the right coach to keep this program moving forward.

sittingon50
04-24-2013, 10:54 PM
That's the thing. I've got to believe Mark has picked up more than a few resumes in the last few weeks.

KStyles
05-02-2013, 11:56 AM
Could mean something, could mean nothing, but in reading through the Slipper Still Fits interview with Kumbeno Memory re: Mike Mosers's visit, I found it interesting that Memory mentioned 4 coaches by name.


"He spent the most time with Donny Daniels. I know he also spent time with Coach Few, Coach Michaelson and Coach Lloyd," Memory explained, "I know that he said he wished that he would've spent more time speaking with Coach Few though. He did get a chance to spend time with the guys on the team during his visit."

http://www.slipperstillfits.com/2013/5/2/4291240/where-does-gonzaga-stand-with-mike-moser-following-his-visit

http://i.imgur.com/sM99lV6.gif

Reborn
05-02-2013, 12:55 PM
I see nothing wrong with Michaelson at all. He's young, energetic as heck and is a Zag. He knows what Few is looking for. I say give him a chance beore you start throwing rocks at him. Over the years that I've been on this board I have heard nothing but great things when players have been compared to him.

cjm720
05-02-2013, 01:06 PM
Michaelson was very impressive in the pre-season chat at FX McCrory's two years ago.

Colbyspapa
05-02-2013, 02:18 PM
No one can sell the program like someone who has lived it. Assistant coaches have a large percentage of their job being salesmen to recruits.

GUnawinit
05-04-2013, 11:11 PM
B.Z. can one word it Michaelson". and she's right...Coach Few is leaning that way or bringing another Former player back...one living and assisting a FEW hundred miles south of Spokane..

Good call B.Z.