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BobZag
01-03-2013, 02:34 PM
KHQ/RootNW / Root Rocky Mtn
KGA 1510 AM
6:00 tipoff

Ekrub
01-03-2013, 03:52 PM
A fast start will play into our advantage here. Go zags

mtzaga
01-03-2013, 04:33 PM
My brother, sister-in-law, and nephew drove up from Carlsbad. He sent me a pic of Mike Hart doing some pre-game stretches.

ZagNative
01-03-2013, 04:56 PM
Meehan:
Jim Meehan ‏@SRJimm

GU starters: Olynyk, Harris, Pangos, Bell and Edi starting. Double-checked and it's Edi instead of Hart.
Jim Meehan ‏@SRJimm

Ex-Zag and current Laker Robert Sacre expected to attend GU-Pepperdine game. He was at Wednesday's practice.

mtzaga
01-03-2013, 04:58 PM
Mitch Kupchak is in the house.

ZagNative
01-03-2013, 05:03 PM
Mitch Kupchak is in the house.No way!

caduceus
01-03-2013, 05:07 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/gamecast?gameId=330032492

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gametracker/live/NCAAB_20130103_GONZAG@PEPPER

RenoZag
01-03-2013, 05:13 PM
ugly start

jazzdelmar
01-03-2013, 05:13 PM
Edi, nothing.

UberZagFan
01-03-2013, 05:13 PM
At this rate GU will only score 16 first half points.

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:14 PM
Slow start for us. Common Edi - Get your mojo back!

caduceus
01-03-2013, 05:14 PM
Arizona is down by 10 at home against Colorado 15:00 left.

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:17 PM
Arizona is down by 10 at home against Colorado 15:00 left.

Thanks for the info - I thought maybe that Colorado, might give them fits.

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:19 PM
Ugly!

caduceus
01-03-2013, 05:20 PM
Hrm...shooting 3-14 (0-4 from 3), defense is asleep as well.

RenoZag
01-03-2013, 05:21 PM
Nice move by Karnasty

jazzdelmar
01-03-2013, 05:21 PM
This is a high school team. Are you kidding me?

UberZagFan
01-03-2013, 05:22 PM
Like Uber said...16 first half points.

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:22 PM
Karno is. Playing better D then Harris was and that shot was no freshmen move. Can we keep him for four years? Please!

U Zig, I Zag
01-03-2013, 05:24 PM
Not to be overly dramatic but: barf-o-rama.

WTF is going on? Step up, kids.

Also, KD: just shoot it. You can get to the lane, just finish.

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:25 PM
Karno is the man who will save this first half.

gamagin
01-03-2013, 05:25 PM
get back to our game.

U Zig, I Zag
01-03-2013, 05:26 PM
If we had a full-featured 3 guard we would be top 5 all season long.

caduceus
01-03-2013, 05:26 PM
Warming up. Down 1 and shooting FT's.

gamagin
01-03-2013, 05:27 PM
gotta stop with the moving screens however

jazzdelmar
01-03-2013, 05:27 PM
If we had a full-featured 3 guard we would be top 5 all season long.

Like Nick Johnson of Zona. Wow.

UberZagFan
01-03-2013, 05:28 PM
Another example of great WCC referees. That ref under the hoop was going to let that foul on Karno's breakaway go. The trailing ref with the bad angle made the correct call.

U Zig, I Zag
01-03-2013, 05:29 PM
Like Nick Johnson of Zona. Wow.

KD/Edi/Hart - they all bring something, but make that into 1.5 4-start (or two 3 stars) and we look very, very good. They leave Edi and Hart open. Always. Imagine if they shot it well (or had the OK to shoot it).

MDABE80
01-03-2013, 05:31 PM
HI

MDABE80
01-03-2013, 05:32 PM
I got the Apple to work........we need to get it going

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:33 PM
I was waiting for that!

U Zig, I Zag
01-03-2013, 05:33 PM
That's it, Hart! Make them pay.

caduceus
01-03-2013, 05:33 PM
Was hoping Hart would shoot that. Pepp has been baiting him to shoot from the outside all game so far.

UberZagFan
01-03-2013, 05:34 PM
Whew. Got more than 16.

U Zig, I Zag
01-03-2013, 05:34 PM
Funny how the 5'11" walkon is the only decent fastbreak participant.

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:34 PM
The are right. Mr Hart!

UberZagFan
01-03-2013, 05:36 PM
Another missed call.

U Zig, I Zag
01-03-2013, 05:36 PM
Lol. Awesome stocks!

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:37 PM
Stocks! Little David! Give him a rock and a sling!

UberZagFan
01-03-2013, 05:38 PM
Travel on Bell? That might be because he was pushed to the ground

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:38 PM
Funny how the 5'11" walkon is the only decent fastbreak participant.

All by himself too.

Birddog
01-03-2013, 05:38 PM
The Libbey Legion is back in force!

U Zig, I Zag
01-03-2013, 05:38 PM
Wow, great steal and awareness by Stocks to get that to KO. Man, if he was 6'1" 198lbs he would be an AA.

This is the kind of game where Hart, KD, and Stocks can get some confidence (Stockton is probably full up on confidence though).

caduceus
01-03-2013, 05:39 PM
Ugh...welcome back to the WCC, where the fouls are free and correct calls don't matter.

Ekrub
01-03-2013, 05:39 PM
So we're either getting jobbed by the refs or I'm tripping on LSD. Can someone confirm so I know whether or not my wife spiked my pizza?

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:39 PM
Travel on Bell? That might be because he was pushed to the ground

Is that what happened to your Avatar? I am just wondering.

raise the zag
01-03-2013, 05:40 PM
watching Dower constantly hop around for rebounds is painful. he's always reaching never grabbing or gaining.

Why? Because he rarely, if ever, has proper positioning on rebounds. he is either too far under the basket or behind the player boxing out. just terrible form. really a question mark.

U Zig, I Zag
01-03-2013, 05:42 PM
Ugh. Awful, Awful fastbreaks.

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:43 PM
Gary?

gamagin
01-03-2013, 05:46 PM
needs to get those bunnies

caduceus
01-03-2013, 05:46 PM
12 of 34

http://i.imgur.com/aAcht.jpg

UberZagFan
01-03-2013, 05:48 PM
KO gave up that last second shot to keep his percentage up.

caduceus
01-03-2013, 05:48 PM
#3 Arizona losing by 9 to Colorado, 3:20 left. ESPNU.

gamagin
01-03-2013, 05:49 PM
KO gotta stuff it more. It goes in or he gets a f.t. They're camping out under him, trying to draw a foul.

SWZag
01-03-2013, 05:50 PM
I think Stockton has been the key part of this first half. Quietly making a difference.

SWZag

Sarenyon
01-03-2013, 05:50 PM
Not a single pass after half court during a fastbreak. Led to shots missed that could of been brought out and set up the offense. Only bringing it up because it's been more than just this game. The ball handler is not looking to the wing for the easier shot, or willing to pull it out to set up the o.

Virginia Zags Fan
01-03-2013, 05:50 PM
Ugly half. Need to turn it up in the 2nd half. We will not beat the SCU, BYU, SMC, on the road playing like this.

Then again, maybe a wake up call was needed. I think guys are too worried about scouts and not worried enough about the Waves.....

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:51 PM
Arizona losing by 9 to Colorado, 3:20 left. ESPNU.

Cool. If we can hang in there :)

I love being ranked high at the start. We will get no easy competition. Pull, through until March and we will be ready

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:52 PM
Ugly half. Need to turn it up in the 2nd half. We will not beat the SCU, BYU, SMC, on the road playing like this.

Then again, maybe a wake up call was needed. I think guys are too worried about scouts and not worried enough about the Waves.....

What I saw is the starters to relaxed on D. I think they thought call walk.
.

GU69
01-03-2013, 05:53 PM
Ew.... I just got here for the last couple of minutes of the half ... and I didn't expect it to be so close.

Birddog
01-03-2013, 05:54 PM
I think Stockton has been the key part of this first half. Quietly making a difference.
Add Hart's mayhem to that, and a dose of the Dude.

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:55 PM
Ew.... I just got here for the last couple of minutes of the half ... and I didn't expect it to be so close.

I don't think our D did either. We could not hit doo do.

ZagNative
01-03-2013, 05:55 PM
I'm enjoying the guy in the "Beat the Zags" T-shirt cavorting behind Heister and co.

GZag
01-03-2013, 05:56 PM
Add Hart's mayhem to that, and a dose of the Dude.

Agreed with both.

caduceus
01-03-2013, 05:56 PM
We attempted 11 3's, they took only 3. We made 1 free throw, they shot 9 (of 9).

One bright spot is we have 7 steals.

gamagin
01-03-2013, 05:57 PM
I think Stockton has been the key part of this first half. Quietly making a difference.

SWZag

& Hart, too. Our rat ballers recognize this is a street fight.

raise the zag
01-03-2013, 06:00 PM
man, I wish our starters brought it every game and possession like Mike Hart does.

He makes such a difference for us.

If he doesn't start the 2nd half, I may switch the channel tonight.

Between the refs, our cold shooting, and laziness on defense, its hard to watch.

ZagNative
01-03-2013, 06:00 PM
Meehan tweets
Jim Meehan ‏@SRJimm

Sacre and Turiaf in attendance, sitting nearly side by side. Lakers vs. Clippers tomorrow night at Staples. Sacre holding son Quinton.

RenoZag
01-03-2013, 06:00 PM
12 of 34

http://i.imgur.com/aAcht.jpg

Photo of the Day !

Birddog
01-03-2013, 06:00 PM
I think I play Dranginis and Hart instead of GLE. I'm just not feelin' it for him lately. KD makes some mistakes but he is the future and he needs the experience.

SWZag
01-03-2013, 06:01 PM
Wow, having to watch the game on FirstRow sports, and it's the Pepperdine cast. People complain about Heister and co? They're gold compared to this.

gamagin
01-03-2013, 06:01 PM
Stocks: 7 pts 3 assists, 2 steals
EH: I think I heard 10 pts

pangos & bell combined 1-10 from the field.

rebs: +1 for Pepp

caduceus
01-03-2013, 06:03 PM
Wow, having to watch the game on FirstRow sports, and it's the Pepperdine cast. People complain about Heister and co? They're gold compared to this.

Oh God...check the stream thread for a better one. At least 2 streams offered there.

bballbeachbum
01-03-2013, 06:03 PM
Another tough WCC road game. I just expect it at this point. the bench getting it done.

all those Waves turnovers but not much to show for it, and many of those turnovers were Pepperdine gifts, unforced. Uzig's observations about the fast break O on display tonight imo, so far

Zags might pop this one open early in the second half tho. no need to attack the double team off the bounce in the post; quick kick out to get the D scambling might lead to a basket fest?

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:04 PM
Harris could tighten it up.

bballbeachbum
01-03-2013, 06:05 PM
Zags might pop this one open early in the second half tho.

or not.......

caduceus
01-03-2013, 06:06 PM
Where is our INSIDE GAME??

UberZagFan
01-03-2013, 06:07 PM
First half defense was not the issue...

caduceus
01-03-2013, 06:10 PM
Arizona ties Colorado with 10 s left.

bballbeachbum
01-03-2013, 06:10 PM
First half defense was not the issue...

agreed, although the D so far 2nd half has been bad, and no double team in the post from Pep, and E pulled less than 3 minutes into the half

GU69
01-03-2013, 06:10 PM
GU needs to take this game more seriously. It doesn't look like the same team that played Oklahoma State.

gamagin
01-03-2013, 06:10 PM
a camera. he's standing real close to the action and cud make some extra $$ taking pix.

SWZag
01-03-2013, 06:10 PM
Oh God...check the stream thread for a better one. At least 2 streams offered there.

I was watching Justin.tv, but every 20 seconds it stops and says the max has been reached for my country. Guess I have to do what I can.

U Zig, I Zag
01-03-2013, 06:10 PM
So if you are Few, what are you saying/thinking?

hooter73
01-03-2013, 06:11 PM
Wow so Dower cant defend and Davis is kindof a #####.

Zagdawg
01-03-2013, 06:11 PM
Someone remind the guys what our strength is.....pound it inside.

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:12 PM
First half defense was not the issue...

I thought it was for Harris and Pangos, but that is just me. When you can hit it...Although stocks can be great and dangerous with the feed.

hooter73
01-03-2013, 06:12 PM
BYU vs LMU game time or update?

raise the zag
01-03-2013, 06:12 PM
my god, dower, that kid is 4-5 inches shorter than you...use your body instead of your arms for EVERYthing.

giddy up for the ride, we could very well lose this game, especially since we're losing every 50-50 ball. hard to just "turn it on" when we weren't ready...

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:13 PM
Few looks frustrated too.

hooter73
01-03-2013, 06:13 PM
haha the forum censors the word p rick

whatazag
01-03-2013, 06:13 PM
I hope we don't play any more games this year with scouts in the stands.

gamagin
01-03-2013, 06:15 PM
really ragged. Pepp is just raggedly refusing to quit. We are raggedly watching the raggedness unfold.

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:16 PM
I like the guards now. Bell having tough night and he is one of my favorites.

RenoZag
01-03-2013, 06:17 PM
We have a Barham sighting

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:17 PM
Stocks!!!

caduceus
01-03-2013, 06:18 PM
haha the forum censors the word p rick

and p ot, even though it's legal here now (or just cooking like Julia Child).

SWZag
01-03-2013, 06:18 PM
Love Dower's hard take to the hoop on the break!!! And gets to the line!

SWZag

bballbeachbum
01-03-2013, 06:18 PM
really ragged. Pepp is just raggedly refusing to quit. We are raggedly watching the raggedness unfold.

yep, and look who Few just put in!

that attack of the rim from Sam showed the aggression that's needed but been missing even tho he missed

gamagin
01-03-2013, 06:19 PM
was the most aggressive he's seen Sam all year. I agree. Maybe this will light him up. Hope so.

bballbeachbum
01-03-2013, 06:19 PM
Love Dower's hard take to the hoop on the break!!! And gets to the line!

SWZag

yes!

raise the zag
01-03-2013, 06:19 PM
We have a Barham sighting

good for Drew, bad sign for our team if he's coming in when its a close game. still, happy for Barham, and hope he takes advantage. especially since other players, not named, are simply not bringing it on defense/rebounds...one rhymes with Ferris.

Birddog
01-03-2013, 06:19 PM
last three minutes have been Dower's best all year

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:20 PM
really ragged. Pepp is just raggedly refusing to quit. We are raggedly watching the raggedness unfold.

We are ranked 10. Can't blame them. Wait until we play SC, BYU, SMC... Bear down dudes! Yeah! We have enough hot players, it is just finding the right ones on a given night. Few!

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:23 PM
last three minutes have been Dower's best all year

Now sink me.

U Zig, I Zag
01-03-2013, 06:23 PM
DB! Nice. You know he wanted that one.

SWZag
01-03-2013, 06:23 PM
Wow, off the ball foul and the three counts! Great turn of events!!!

SWZag

mtzaga
01-03-2013, 06:23 PM
Deep 3 by Barham.

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:23 PM
we have a barham sighting

fna!

raise the zag
01-03-2013, 06:23 PM
can't say we're playing our best defensive lineup right now.

Pangos, Stocks, Barham, Olynyk, Dower.

but I like the offense.

btw, what is with the lineups tonight? #random

GU69
01-03-2013, 06:24 PM
Nice!!! Go Drew!!!

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:24 PM
Wow, off the ball foul and the three counts! Great turn of events!!!

SWZag

Yeah, Buddy!

jazzdelmar
01-03-2013, 06:24 PM
Why?

U Zig, I Zag
01-03-2013, 06:25 PM
4,000th is my next post... better be for something awesome.

NEC26
01-03-2013, 06:25 PM
Stockton has been the best player for the Zags so far tonight. Getting steals, running the fast break and finishing, and playing solid defense.

hooter73
01-03-2013, 06:25 PM
YES DB! about time!

gamagin
01-03-2013, 06:26 PM
depth is kicking in here. Barham finds his range. Been looking for who wants it. Now finding out.

great. keep it going Zags !

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:26 PM
You know. Year after year, I saw GU give up on teams like this. On OK State. Not this team. I love the determination and that the all pull together!

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:28 PM
Jarmo plays hard!

caduceus
01-03-2013, 06:28 PM
That 3 second call on PK was less than 2 secs, according to my DVR.

UberZagFan
01-03-2013, 06:29 PM
EH turning it up.

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:29 PM
Pangos too far behind on almost every play. I love him too !

gamagin
01-03-2013, 06:29 PM
having a rough night. maybe someone else ought to be on their shooter, who seems open at will. so far.

sittingon50
01-03-2013, 06:30 PM
Just a poor performance on so MANY levels.

raise the zag
01-03-2013, 06:32 PM
we gotta start thinking about a better defensive lineup down the stretch b/c our shots aren't really falling...

caduceus
01-03-2013, 06:33 PM
If we play like this on Saturday against SCU, we're in huge trouble.

Ekrub
01-03-2013, 06:33 PM
Did Gary get whistled for playing defense?

bballbeachbum
01-03-2013, 06:34 PM
You know. Year after year, I saw GU give up on teams like this. On OK State. Not this team. I love the determination and that the all pull together!

what are you talking about?

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:34 PM
You can say poor performance, but I don't see Duke running away from Pep tonight either. They are darn quick. It's alright, as long as we win :)

bballbeachbum
01-03-2013, 06:34 PM
just get out of here with a win

Birddog
01-03-2013, 06:35 PM
I'm betting in the post game we're gonna hear that the norovirus or something like it has hit the team.

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:35 PM
what are you talking about?

Mostly the month of December.

You have not seen that before?

caduceus
01-03-2013, 06:35 PM
Wow, Arizona wins by 9 in OT after trailing all second half until the last 10 secs.

bballbeachbum
01-03-2013, 06:35 PM
You can say poor performance, but I don't see Duke running away from Pep tonight either. They are darn quick. It's alright, as long as we win :)

it's the WCC, nothing new here imo, more like same old same old

bballbeachbum
01-03-2013, 06:36 PM
Mostly the month of December.

giving up? year after year? whatever :)

gamagin
01-03-2013, 06:37 PM
but you can't defend that wwell when he carries the ball in for a layup. Good job ref. Right in front of you.

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:37 PM
Wow, Arizona wins by 9 in OT after trailing all second half until the last 10 secs.

Wow!

raise the zag
01-03-2013, 06:37 PM
maybe January is our new December?

goodness gracious, I hope not. HUGE month ahead.

RenoZag
01-03-2013, 06:38 PM
Mike Hart is my hero

gamagin
01-03-2013, 06:39 PM
extend the lead now, Zags extend the lead now, Zags extend the lead now, Zags extend the lead now, Zags extend the lead now, Zags

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:40 PM
giving up? year after year? whatever :)

Oh... I mean giving up games they should not lose year after year. When GonAga was the better team and they gave up to Pacdic, SF, others. No energy in some games they should have won. That is what I meant. Sorry, for the generalities.

caduceus
01-03-2013, 06:40 PM
Mike Hart is my hero

No doubt. Three rebs, 5 assists in 20 minutes of play.

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:42 PM
Hart or Stocks? Tough call!

Ekrub
01-03-2013, 06:43 PM
Stockton getting my G-Unit

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:43 PM
maybe January is our new December?

goodness gracious, I hope not. HUGE month ahead.

No!

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:44 PM
Now they are going for every loose ball!

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:46 PM
Stockton getting my G-Unit

I think we need a Stock-Hart option, but I am pumped for Dower, Karno and Harris.

gamagin
01-03-2013, 06:46 PM
Stockton getting my G-Unit

for sure. Hart should be the co mvp, imo. maybe that function should be on the balloting.

Zagdawg
01-03-2013, 06:50 PM
It sounds like we have a pretty good group of fans attending the game.

raise the zag
01-03-2013, 06:51 PM
I've personally never seen Pangos play so listless and out of touch.

Besides a couple wide-open 3's he received via hustle plays by his teammates, he's been atrocious tonight.

yes, he's missed shots before in games, yet never lacked hustle...tonight, he's not bringing it at all.

bballbeachbum
01-03-2013, 06:53 PM
liking E down the stretch, going hard after riding some pine earleir this half.

gamagin
01-03-2013, 06:55 PM
to wake everyone up. eh ?? I hope it helps going forward. Everyone wants a piece of us and if we don't play like it, someone just might get that piece. It's happened before.

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:56 PM
I've personally never seen Pangos play so listless and out of touch.

Besides a couple wide-open 3's he received via hustle plays by his teammates, he's been atrocious tonight.

yes, he's missed shots before in games, yet never lacked hustle...tonight, he's not bringing it at all.

Maybe flu? I know, I have it. Tis the season.

BobZag
01-03-2013, 06:57 PM
Some people really shouldn't attend games. They just don't quite know how to handle their emotions. To me, they aren't really fans.

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:58 PM
Pep won't quit.

raise the zag
01-03-2013, 06:58 PM
Maybe flu? I know, I have it. Tis the season.

Good point.

Gotta be the flu, not like him to play like this...no heart, hustle, tempo. just flat all the way around.

GZag
01-03-2013, 06:58 PM
Some people really shouldn't attend games. They just don't quite know how to handle their emotions. To me, they aren't really fans.

Explain in more detail please!

kitzbuel
01-03-2013, 06:59 PM
Pep is gonna try and get every second out of this game.

hooter73
01-03-2013, 07:00 PM
Player of the game my butt... O Harris, Where art thou?

GZag
01-03-2013, 07:00 PM
I can't believe we got 78

caduceus
01-03-2013, 07:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/h0kF0.gif

Better be more inspired on Saturday.

kitzbuel
01-03-2013, 07:01 PM
Kinda wished we went for 80.

GZag
01-03-2013, 07:02 PM
Some people really shouldn't attend games. They just don't quite know how to handle their emotions. To me, they aren't really fans.

Bob? Just checking

GZag
01-03-2013, 07:02 PM
Kinda wished we went for 80.

It looks better.

RenoZag
01-03-2013, 07:07 PM
ESPN BOX SCORE (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=330032492)

sittingon50
01-03-2013, 07:14 PM
Zags get outrebounded for just the 2nd time this year (WSU).

Ouch.

GZag
01-03-2013, 08:43 PM
to wake everyone up. eh ?? I hope it helps going forward. Everyone wants a piece of us and if we don't play like it, someone just might get that piece. It's happened before.

Exactly. We have to prove ourself every game. The best from. Everyone