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TheGonzagaFactor
12-19-2011, 11:39 PM
If you remove Carter and Hart's combined 2 for 20 on 3-pointers this season, the Zags are shooting 40.1% from 3. They have 55 makes in 137 attempts minus the two. I don't want to diss Marquise or Mike, but rather highlight that some of these guys are shooting pretty well despite only Elias getting comfortable from 3 last game:

Pangos: 19/50...38%
Bell: 14/36...38.9%
Stockton: 12/21...57.1%
Harris: 8/19...42.1%

The Zags are shooting 36.3% from 3 this season.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/2250/gonzaga-bulldogs

Baldwinzag
12-20-2011, 05:43 AM
Overall, our 3pt shooting has been much improved.

I'm sure opposing teams are nervous once they glance at the scouting report and see 3 starters & 1 key reserve are shooting 38%+ from the perimeter.

Yes, Mike Hart is shooting just 1-9 from 3pt this season, yet a "pure shooter" such as Pangos is shooting just 2-13 his last two games, so you never know what MH is capable of. . .

btw, Kevin is primarily a catch 'n shoot 3pt shooter and nearly every one of his 9 makes vs WSU were shot in this fashion; however, in the last 4-5 games since he's become the go-to ball handler in every possession he's shooting off the dribble(even 1), ball screens, or transition nearly every attempt lately, which he's not nearly as accurate. Defenders chasing him around hasn't helped his shooting % either. It'd be nice if we could create an ideal opportunity where he's already set or popping out to receive a pass and shoot.

zag944
12-20-2011, 07:36 AM
I know all our guys are hard workers, but a question to those in the know...

Is Stockton a Fraham/Raivio level workout guy? Last year his 3 point shot didnt look all that great and it didnt go in often enough. He has been shooting the ball really well this season. Cant really think of how some one would improve that much short of hundreds (thousands?) of practice shots on an almost daily basis.

allnet59
12-20-2011, 08:56 AM
Overall, our 3pt shooting has been much improved.

I'm sure opposing teams are nervous once they glance at the scouting report and see 3 starters & 1 key reserve are shooting 38%+ from the perimeter.

Yes, Mike Hart is shooting just 1-9 from 3pt this season, yet a "pure shooter" such as Pangos is shooting just 2-13 his last two games, so you never know what MH is capable of. . .

btw, Kevin is primarily a catch 'n shoot 3pt shooter and nearly every one of his 9 makes vs WSU were shot in this fashion; however, in the last 4-5 games since he's become the go-to ball handler in every possession he's shooting off the dribble(even 1), ball screens, or transition nearly every attempt lately, which he's not nearly as accurate. Defenders chasing him around hn't helped his shooting % either. It'd be nice if we could create an ideal opportunity where he's already set or popping out to receive a pass and shoot.

U are so right on about Kevin...

Baldwinzag
12-20-2011, 09:39 AM
U are so right on about Kevin...

just finished watching the replay - wow! Watched the game with our local GU chapter the 1st go around & was a bit distracted at times. Forgot how physical we played. Impressed the hell outta me. My goodness. Not one play backed down from hitting bodies, on offense and defense. A sight to see. We DID NOT play like that vs Illinois. If I'm Butler, I'm scrambling how to match our physicality, yet playing that tough/physical requires great effort/tenacity/focus, so hopefully we can continue playing just like we did vs Wildcats. It was football mentality and I'm sure Arizona wanted helmets & shoulder pads at half-time. Man oh man. We backed off a bit to preserve the lead in the 2nd half, but the moment we started sacrificing our minds & bodies, we pulled away yet again. Keep it up Zags!

Also, this may be worth starting a new thread, yet noticed Pangos took one extra dribble on 4 out 5 of his 3pt attempts/misses vs Arizona. He rarely, if ever, took another dribble vs WSU. He ran to his position, received the pass, shot. While Arizona was hovering a bit more than WSU, there were several instances Kevin did not need to put the ball on the floor before shooting -- to be honest, not sure he's made one shot, besides lay-ups, by shooting on the move. Kevin is a sniper, yet the dribble & long-range shot takes some practice to master, for now, he or the team needs to create opportunities in catch 'n shoot scenarios. Gary Bell seems a bit more comfortable shooting on the move & the Hoff actually prefers it, not Kevin Pangos.

BobZag
12-20-2011, 09:46 AM
I know all our guys are hard workers, but a question to those in the know...

Is Stockton a Fraham/Raivio level workout guy? Last year his 3 point shot didnt look all that great and it didnt go in often enough. He has been shooting the ball really well this season. Cant really think of how some one would improve that much short of hundreds (thousands?) of practice shots on an almost daily basis.

Pretty much, yes. He couln't hit the broad side of a barn in scrimmages his first year at GU when he redshirted and then got terribly ill during all offseason with tonsil problems, so his first full healthy offseason as a Zag was last summer.

McZag
12-21-2011, 07:26 AM
If you remove Carter and Hart's combined 2 for 20 on 3-pointers this season, the Zags are shooting 40.1% from 3. They have 55 makes in 137 attempts minus the two. I don't want to diss Marquise or Mike, but rather highlight that some of these guys are shooting pretty well despite only Elias getting comfortable from 3 last game:

Pangos: 19/50...38%
Bell: 14/36...38.9%
Stockton: 12/21...57.1%
Harris: 8/19...42.1%

The Zags are shooting 36.3% from 3 this season.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/2250/gonzaga-bulldogs

Good insight. It really highlights where our offensive productivity is rooted.