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ZagNative
12-08-2011, 12:23 PM
Thanks to Slipper Still Fits (http://www.slipperstillfits.com/2011/12/8/2621408/gonzaga-recruiting-junior-college-wing-darrious-curry-remains-on-zags), who picked up on this from Twitter:
@CASJackN
Jack Nowlin

Gonazga coach Mark Few at The Swede tonight checking on Casper College's Darrious Curry ... Curry finished with 21 pts and 8 reb. #tbirds
Dec 08 via web
SSF writes:
Darrious Curry, a 6'7'' small forward currently at Casper College in Wyoming seems to be front and center on the minds of Mark Few and Co.

As we have covered before, Curry is a former member of the West Virginia Mountaineers. While preparing for his freshman season, Curry was unable to get medically cleared and left Morgantown. While there was a fear that his career would be permanently ended, Curry is back in action and drawing the interest of many high major programs.

Last night, Mark Few ventured down to Casper to check out Darrious. The JUCO prospect finished with 21 points on 9-17 from the floor and also grabbed 8 rebounds. Casper lost the game last night but it sounds like Curry had an oustanding game. He is currently being courted by programs such as Nebraska, Washington State, Colorado, Auburn, Texas Tech and Wichita State.
SSF posted an introduction to Curry (http://www.slipperstillfits.com/2011/10/31/2526067/zags-continue-search-for-2012-wing-darrious-curry-introduction) on October 31. According to the SSF story, Curry originally committed to West Virginia, he was not medically cleared and eventually ended up at Casper CC in Wyoming.

Zags have apparently been following him since September. I assume that if Mark Few makes a trip to Wyoming to watch him, their interest is more than casual.

Here is the box score (http://wind.caspercollege.edu/~tbirds/mens/wwvscc.html) for last night's game. Casper Thunderbirds website (http://www.tbirds.cc/mbb/index.html). Team stats for the season (http://www.tbirds.cc/mbb/stats/2011_2012_mbb_season.html) thus far. (Actually, it looks like they were on him since spring (http://caspercollegethunderbirdbasketball.blogspot.com/2011/05/darrious-curry.html).)

DixieZag
12-08-2011, 12:42 PM
A 6'7 wing sounds exactly like what we need right now. Didn't say anything about his defense, but if he was recruited by Huggins he can probably defend.

This sounds like one we would do well to get.

zagfan07
12-08-2011, 12:53 PM
What's the reasoning for him failing to get cleared medically? Usually it's the academic qualification that some people have issues with, not a medical one.

04ZagFan
12-08-2011, 01:06 PM
A 6'7 wing sounds exactly like what we need right now. Didn't say anything about his defense, but if he was recruited by Huggins he can probably defend.

This sounds like one we would do well to get.

Yes please.

Watching that UW-Marquette game the other night made me realize how much I love tall, athletic wings.... Of course they aren't a dime a dozen, but I'd love it if Gonzaga could get their hands on one.

ZagNative
12-08-2011, 01:07 PM
From the SSF intro story linked above:
During preparation for his freshman season at West Virginia, Curry was not cleared medically because of a heart issue. Although there was some initial fear that the injury might mean the end of his basketball career, Curry has now been cleared to play. As Davidson points out, the heart issue hasn't been an issue at all but is something they continue to monitor.

"Several cardiologists released him to participate here," explained Davidson. "He has worked out all fall, and last spring as well, and hasn't had any problems. However, it's something that we will all continue to monitor."

That story also says,
While nothing has been setup at this point, Davidson did say that it's possible that Curry will take a visit to Gonzaga this season.

ZagNative
12-08-2011, 01:31 PM
Photo from the game story (http://trib.com/sports/college/t-bird-men-fall-short-against-wwcc/article_5cda8e5f-9c38-58a8-a332-d4ae1055e8f0.html):

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7idAP5uCFUU/TuE6R8nEkrI/AAAAAAABTQE/MJU-EnBXEHc/s512/2013%252520Darrious%252520Curry.jpg

DADoZAG
12-08-2011, 01:36 PM
What's the reasoning for him failing to get cleared medically? Usually it's the academic qualification that some people have issues with, not a medical one.

Could it be in insurance issue?

I was surprised there wasn't much buzz on the MBB when BZ first posted about him. Even following a second posting, very little interest. ?

So what type of eligibility would Darrious have? Still 3 years plus a RS if needed, right?

ZAG UP!

Thomas_Sutpen
12-08-2011, 03:15 PM
So what type of eligibility would Darrious have? Still 3 years plus a RS if needed, right?

Here's an intellectual exercise for you--try to find a straight answer from the NCAA about eligibility. Bring your lawyer along, and good luck!

I poked around a bit on Google, and the answer to your question seems to be "it depends." It depends upon if Darrious was enrolled at WVU (making him a 4-2-4 transfer rather than a 2-4 transfer) and whether he was an academic qualifier, partial qualifier, or non qualifier. I think he also already redshirted, so that's out.

Here's my source; I have no idea if it's still up to date:
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/beth/genrel/auto_pdf/10-11TransferGuide.pdf

Another interesting note--a group of JUCO players has filed a lawsuit against the NCAA about JUCO transfer rules:
http://chronicle.com/blogs/players/junior-college-athletes-sue-ncaa-over-transfer-rules/28270 So maybe things will change?

Best quote from the NCAA packet:

If you answered No to any of the questions in the previous
charts, do not give up yet. Translation: "Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter"

My best non-legally trained guess on Darrious? 3 years if he wasn't enrolled at WVU, and 2 years if he was. But who knows?

CanadianZagFan
12-08-2011, 03:20 PM
Thanks to Slipper Still Fits (http://www.slipperstillfits.com/2011/12/8/2621408/gonzaga-recruiting-junior-college-wing-darrious-curry-remains-on-zags), who picked up on this from Twitter:
SSF writes:
SSF posted an introduction to Curry (http://www.slipperstillfits.com/2011/10/31/2526067/zags-continue-search-for-2012-wing-darrious-curry-introduction) on October 31. According to the SSF story, Curry originally committed to West Virginia, he was not medically cleared and eventually ended up at Casper CC in Wyoming.

Zags have apparently been following him since September. I assume that if Mark Few makes a trip to Wyoming to watch him, their interest is more than casual.

Here is the box score (http://wind.caspercollege.edu/~tbirds/mens/wwvscc.html) for last night's game. Casper Thunderbirds website (http://www.tbirds.cc/mbb/index.html). Team stats for the season (http://www.tbirds.cc/mbb/stats/2011_2012_mbb_season.html) thus far. (Actually, it looks like they were on him since spring (http://caspercollegethunderbirdbasketball.blogspot.com/2011/05/darrious-curry.html).)

Very balanced playing time for that roster, the highest guy plays 24 minutes and the lowest at 12.

DADoZAG
12-08-2011, 03:23 PM
Thanx TS.

But I'm a bit confused as to why he would have burned his redshirt and a year of eligibilty at the same time.

He gets five years. So worst case it would seem he would have 3 years left if he's a ZAG next year.

Maybe I'm missing something? Maybe it's time for a Scotch, say 3 fingers?

Go ZAGS!

GoZags
12-08-2011, 03:58 PM
I'll wait for my friend mdabe80 to weigh in on how difficult it is to have a heart condition that precludes playing competitive basketball go away. Does it heal itself? Is the condition helped with medication?

I am hopeful that the kid truly IS okay.

It wasn't that long ago that we nearly lost Ronny.

All that being said -- I'm glad Coach Few took a December trip to Wyoming to see for himself -- much better that it's him Han "Solo" == and not the Zags playing another game in Laramie.

Thomas_Sutpen
12-08-2011, 04:08 PM
But I'm a bit confused as to why he would have burned his redshirt and a year of eligibilty at the same time.

He gets five years. So worst case it would seem he would have 3 years left if he's a ZAG next year.

Maybe I'm missing something? Maybe it's time for a Scotch, say 3 fingers?

Go ZAGS!

If I'm reading the 4-2-4 section correctly, I think the only way he gets 2 years rather than 3 is if he was enrolled at WVU and had a lower than 2.0 GPA while there. Then he would have to sit out for a year (thus losing a year of eligibility). But I don't know the specifics of his history. Since there's so much interest in him, however, it's probably 3.

Cheers!

JPtheBeasta
12-08-2011, 05:22 PM
It appears Curry has Marfan's disease:

http://www.wvmetronews.com/wvu.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=41086

As it pertains to the heart:

For cardiovascular system involvement to be considered diagnostic criteria, only one of the major or minor criteria must be present.[19, 20]

Major cardiovascular system criteria are as follows:

-Dilatation of the ascending aorta, with or without regurgitation, and involving at least the sinuses of Valsalva
-Dissection of the ascending aorta

Minor cardiovascular system criteria are as follows:

-Mitral valve prolapse, with or without regurgitation
-Dilatation of main pulmonary artery in the absence of valvular or peripheral pulmonic stenosis or any other obvious cause in patients younger than 40 years
-Calcification of the mitral valve annulus in patients younger than 40 years
-Dilatation or dissection of the descending thoracic or abdominal aorta in patients younger than 50 years
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1258926-overview#a0112

Ronny, I believe had dilation of the aorta. In my opinion, the worst scenario is when it just spontanously dissects to the point that there is serious internal bleeding and heart failure- it can cause sudden death without any warning signs. This would be similar to the brain aneurysm that more people are familiar with (another potential cause of sudden death). People often die before they have a chance to make it to the emergency room.

The other stuff (mitral valve calcifications and prolapse) can be bad, too, but many people have them with various degrees of symptoms, and they aren't necessarily imminently life threatening. The article about Curry states that his prohibition was cautionary, and since I can't find any mention of graft surgery, and he is playing, aortic dilation/dissection doesn't seem likely. Dissection can be diagnosed with ultrasound and MRI, and the other stuff with echocardiograms (and hinted at by ECG).

bostonzagfan
12-08-2011, 09:11 PM
juco with 3 years > juco with 2 years

04ZagFan
12-08-2011, 09:20 PM
juco with 3 years > juco with 2 years

Unless the juco with 2 years is a superior player.

23dpg
12-08-2011, 11:09 PM
Marfan's Syndrome is not really a "heart disease" issue but it certainly can affect the heart. The main problem with this condition is the aortic dissection/rupture.

The aorta, as you may well know, is the main artery that carries blood directly from the left ventricle of the heart to the body. If it dissects, you are in big trouble. If it ruptures, you are dead.

With Marfans, the aorta becomes weakened and dilates. This can lead to the problems described above. It is a scary disease to have. A few athletes have died spontaneously due to this disease.

Here is an old Sports Illustrated article about it.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1064510/index.htm

Like all things, there are various degrees to this disease. Just because he has been diagnosed, doesn't mean he's a ticking time bomb on the court. That being said, I sure wouldn't want that diagnosis.

bostonzagfan
12-09-2011, 07:03 AM
Unless the juco with 2 years is a superior player.

haha true

DADoZAG
12-09-2011, 08:01 AM
With Marfans, the aorta becomes weakened and dilates.

Like all things, there are various degrees to this disease. Just because he has been diagnosed, doesn't mean he's a ticking time bomb on the court. That being said, I sure wouldn't want that diagnosis.

Shows that a bit of courage must exist in the young man. Plus he didn’t quit when diagnosed, but searched for a way to get back on track by taking the CC route. I was impressed with the young man just reading his story.

The disease, if I remember from what I read, also encourages length in the limbs and a lean body. Not a trade, but if one looks for the good side of things…

ZAG UP!

BobZag
12-09-2011, 09:05 AM
This is a recruit I could get excited about.