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BobZag
11-19-2011, 03:01 PM
Aloha!

I have nooooooo idea what to expect.

Go Zags.

gamagin
11-19-2011, 04:41 PM
Aloha!

I have nooooooo idea what to expect.

Go Zags.

I hope RS has is surrounded by friends and much love tonight. I saw him interviewed a few days ago and he said hadn't been home in a year and a half.

gamagin
11-19-2011, 04:47 PM
is a close one. Seattle is holding its own and beating them on defense, but can't score when it's most needed, or they'd be ahead. I hope they don't go in to o.t. 62-61 w 36 seconds left.

Final: USF 69, Seattle 63

ZagLawGrad
11-19-2011, 04:58 PM
is a close one. Seattle is holding its own and beating them on defense, but can't score when it's most needed, or they'd be ahead. I hope they don't go in to o.t. 62-61 w 36 seconds left.

Final: USF 69, Seattle 63

Seattle U belongs in the WCC IMO. Better fit for WCC than BYU.

ZagNative
11-19-2011, 05:00 PM
Lots of empty seats .... Where's ZaGranny's red hoodie?

Lurknomore
11-19-2011, 05:00 PM
Oh, it doesn't look like there are many people there.

ZagLawGrad
11-19-2011, 05:08 PM
Slow start. Hart 3 not good, but nice relaxed stroke

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:08 PM
GU is has not come out with any sort of energy for this game... must have been a late night in Vancouver.

gamagin
11-19-2011, 05:08 PM
Matt Santangelo said Tommy Lloyd wanted Hart to shoot more, saying he wanted him to shoot like he does in practice..

It looks like they are moving the ball around to him early for that purpose. Robbed, too, on that first 3pt shot. <> close !!

ZagLawGrad
11-19-2011, 05:09 PM
Hawaii looks physical

gamagin
11-19-2011, 05:10 PM
. . . . . . .

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:11 PM
I think I've seen more people at a GSL high school basketball game. On a positive note, not many people are on hand to watch this effort from GU to start this game.

ZagLawGrad
11-19-2011, 05:11 PM
MC's lack of finish getting annoying. FinisH!

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:12 PM
1st bucket at the 15:45 mark... way to go Harris. Plus a 3 ball from Pangos!!!

RenoZag
11-19-2011, 05:12 PM
Take it inside, fellahs. . .

ZagLawGrad
11-19-2011, 05:13 PM
keep shootin KP, lots of shootin

EuroZag2010
11-19-2011, 05:13 PM
Pangooooosssss 333333

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:14 PM
MC's lack of finish getting annoying. FinisH!

Don't understand why he hasn't continued with his development from last year. It's like we have the same MC that we had to begin last year. GBJ will gladly take MC's minutes. The starting lineup at the end of this year will be drastically different than how the year has started.

Zag@LMU
11-19-2011, 05:16 PM
Ugly game so far

RenoZag
11-19-2011, 05:16 PM
Zags are in love with the three ball but the three ball isn't in love with them. . .

SLOW start tonight

Lurknomore
11-19-2011, 05:17 PM
Would like to see Rob get a bucket and get going.

ZagLawGrad
11-19-2011, 05:17 PM
Don't understand why he hasn't continued with his development from last year. It's like we have the same MC that we had to begin last year. GBJ will gladly take MC's minutes. The starting lineup at the end of this year will be drastically different than how the year has started.

Maybe he'll be a post Xmas bloomer again. Needs to step up earlier with his background and experience.

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:20 PM
I thought this game would see a lot of Rob Sacre controlling the paint and getting inside points. So far it's been a 3pt love fest... another opponent dictating the pace of the game.

NEC26
11-19-2011, 05:21 PM
We are wide open from three because they aren't guarding it except for Pangos. Just need to hit the open shots.

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:22 PM
Maybe he'll be a post Xmas bloomer again. Needs to step up earlier with his background and experience.

+1 This inexperienced backcourt (Pangos and GBJ) need Cartert to be a leader and contributor early on. MC is going to be a key part to this team if we are going to get quality wins in the OOC schedule.

ZagLawGrad
11-19-2011, 05:23 PM
Let's get the big guys into the game plan

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:25 PM
Hello Spangler....

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:27 PM
Hopefully Sacre just woke up with that bucket and 1...

canzag
11-19-2011, 05:28 PM
So what is the crowd?3000 tops?

gamagin
11-19-2011, 05:29 PM
according to Heister. I'd have guessed 20.

RenoZag
11-19-2011, 05:29 PM
Spangler forced that last HAwaii turnover.

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:30 PM
32% FG so far in the 1st half... I guess our shooting percentage ranking will continue to drop. This won't equate to wins against better competition.

ZagNative
11-19-2011, 05:30 PM
Box Score (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=313232250)

Looking forward to watching Spngler tonight.

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:31 PM
according to Heister. I'd have guessed 20.

+1... this team is not good at finishing around the bucket and relies too heavily on 3pt shooting.

gamagin
11-19-2011, 05:31 PM
So what is the crowd?3000 tops?

looks like upper half is empty, but the lower concourse looks at least representative.

bballbeachbum
11-19-2011, 05:35 PM
+1... this team is not good at finishing around the bucket and relies too heavily on 3pt shooting.

there isn't a lot of penetration off the bounce. the GU bigs are in that space too, posting in there, but a couple of successful plays off the bounce might loosen things up on the perimeter

ZagLawGrad
11-19-2011, 05:35 PM
RS dead eye at the line

NEC26
11-19-2011, 05:36 PM
That was a pretty feed by Stockton to Sacre. David has come in and played well.

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:36 PM
Rob's FT shooting is AMAZING. What an important weapon... we need to feed him the ball more often.

Jedster
11-19-2011, 05:38 PM
nice feed by Rob to E!

ZagLawGrad
11-19-2011, 05:38 PM
Nice play RS to EH

NEC26
11-19-2011, 05:39 PM
Stockton has really given this team a spark off the bench.

RenoZag
11-19-2011, 05:39 PM
Stockton to Harris !

bballbeachbum
11-19-2011, 05:39 PM
nice minutes from David

DixieZag
11-19-2011, 05:39 PM
I like that Few has just about everyone involved in the game. Keeps everyone happy.

gamagin
11-19-2011, 05:40 PM
it's working, too

ZagLawGrad
11-19-2011, 05:41 PM
nice minutes from David

And a good attitude by DS in light of KP being the starter

gamagin
11-19-2011, 05:41 PM
NO lay ins allowed. Lot of fouls

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:42 PM
In our half court game, the guards really struggle to get it inside to our bigs. Sacre and Harris do a great job of working to seal off their defender, but we just aren't getting the pass to them.

DixieZag
11-19-2011, 05:42 PM
I realize it would be tough to pull RS or EH, but I would love to see Spangler get a few more minutes, I have no idea how he got that rebound before the travel.

He is going to be a weapon against some of the teams with good big men, will clean the boards.

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:43 PM
MM isn't exactly making a case for more minutes tonight, and no Keita so far...

bballbeachbum
11-19-2011, 05:45 PM
And a good attitude by DS in light of KP being the starter

it's the stuff of good teams, and a good player

DixieZag
11-19-2011, 05:46 PM
Refs seem to want to be the third team on the floor right now, going both ways but not really letting them play.

canzag
11-19-2011, 05:47 PM
Dower is struggling a bit early this season.

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:47 PM
Inside shots are just not falling for the Zags tonight...

gamagin
11-19-2011, 05:47 PM
O looks flatter than pi$$ on a plate

RenoZag
11-19-2011, 05:48 PM
Sam's snake bit. . .

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:48 PM
Again... another missed bucket from within 3ft of the rim. This is an UGLY game for GU... playing down to their competition.

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:49 PM
Hawaii should be very confident that they can come away with a win tonight...

RenoZag
11-19-2011, 05:49 PM
That half was pretty ugly. . .only a 6 point lead. . .

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 05:54 PM
Zags shooting 33% from the field, but have attempted 11 free throws compared to Hawaii's 2. That is the difference in the game right now.

bballbeachbum
11-19-2011, 05:55 PM
most looks inside are off of post ups. need some transition or unchecked looks at the hoop from inside to help loosen it up, however created

the kid from NY, name escapes me right now, has no respect for David when he's in front of him and tried to serve on possession after possession. thought DS did pretty well against him

Rob won't let this one get away

Bocco
11-19-2011, 05:56 PM
That half was pretty ugly. . .only a 6 point lead. . .

Hawaii appears to be one of those teams that like to make it ugly

BobZag
11-19-2011, 05:57 PM
Ugly.

FG % is just not up to snuff. Missed bunnies, oh my.

Well, win the 2nd-half.

Zag@LMU
11-19-2011, 06:01 PM
Hawaii appears to be one of those teams that like yo make it ugly

pretty soon were going to have to stop blaming our ugliness on the playing style of the other team.

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:02 PM
I notice, we always have a hard time hitting shots in these big arenas. Anyone else notice that?

The Zags don't look comfortable in this arena at all... maybe it's the noise from all the crickets :-)

NEC26
11-19-2011, 06:02 PM
I notice, we always have a hard time hitting shots in these big arenas. Anyone else notice that?

It does seem like a recurring theme. Didn't seem to bother Pangos any though.

Bogozags
11-19-2011, 06:02 PM
Seattle U belongs in the WCC IMO. Better fit for WCC than BYU.

What do they have to offer as a WCC member? Don't believe they bring anything to the conference compared to BYU. BYU brings better marketing as well as better overall BBall program/competition to the WCC. Quality of program is better at BYU and they go to the dance frequently and when was SU's last appearance to the Dance?

It would be better for SU to be in the WCC for travel/recruiting but not better for the WCC...IMO

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:03 PM
pretty soon were going to have to stop blaming our ugliness on the playing style of the other team.

I agree and Meech isn't here anymore to blame as well :p

RenoZag
11-19-2011, 06:06 PM
The live stats page at GoZags.com is not liking Windows 64 bit. . .dammit

bballbeachbum
11-19-2011, 06:07 PM
right there...what is needed

Bocco
11-19-2011, 06:08 PM
Been waiting for Carter to make his appearance this year

NEC26
11-19-2011, 06:08 PM
Love the dribble penetration we are getting right now.

LongIslandZagFan
11-19-2011, 06:08 PM
Carter picking it up

Bogozags
11-19-2011, 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZagLawGrad
And a good attitude by DS in light of KP being the starter


it's the stuff of good teams, and a good player

Was anything less expected??? DS comes from GREAT stock and I would have been completely taken back with any display of negativity from DS, in any fashion. He is all CLASS all the time...IMO

canzag
11-19-2011, 06:08 PM
Bell in to start 2nd half.Like Carter to start the 2nd

bballbeachbum
11-19-2011, 06:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZagLawGrad
And a good attitude by DS in light of KP being the starter



Was anything less expected??? DS comes from GREAT stock and I would have been completely taken back with any display of negativity from DS, in any fashion. He is all CLASS all the time...IMO

no. just chatting during the game. thanks

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:13 PM
A half way decent opponent would have a double digit lead on these Zags and pushing it to a 20 point lead. This is a worse performance than the Eastern Washington game... as hard as that is to believe. :(

Bogozags
11-19-2011, 06:14 PM
What is all the traveling about...those calls seem to be wrong when I play them back in slowmo...pivot foot is not touching the floor after it is picked up...

Anyone seeing an actual travel?

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:15 PM
If the Zags pull a typical no FG's to end the last 5 minutes of a game... this is going to be an L on our record. The Rainbows are gaining confidence...

bballbeachbum
11-19-2011, 06:15 PM
everything is dribble penetration so far this half...adjustment. nice

NEC26
11-19-2011, 06:15 PM
a half way decent opponent would have a double digit lead on these zags and pushing it to a 20 point lead. This is a worse performance than the eastern washington game... As hard as that is to believe. :(

doomed!

gamagin
11-19-2011, 06:17 PM
putting on a clinic vs. eh & sd. damnit

wazmix
11-19-2011, 06:17 PM
Shame on the Rainbow-fans......for not making the drive. :doh:

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:18 PM
Why is Sacre sitting on the bench for extended periods of time with zero fouls? Especially with this game being played in Vancouver for him. :confused:

bballbeachbum
11-19-2011, 06:19 PM
this test is great for this team early

Bogozags
11-19-2011, 06:19 PM
Shame on the Rainbow-fans......for not making the drive. :doh:

Totally Agree!

gamagin
11-19-2011, 06:20 PM
flat being outplayed.

RenoZag
11-19-2011, 06:20 PM
this test is great for this team early

Hope they pass it

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:21 PM
I guess this year's offensive game plan is 3 pointers from our freshman (Pangos and GBJ) and free throws from Sacre.

canzag
11-19-2011, 06:22 PM
Stokes is a player.That is fur sure.

Bogozags
11-19-2011, 06:23 PM
Our Front Line is working too hard to get shots...we are also missing oportunities to get the ball inside...why are we not making the pass?

bballbeachbum
11-19-2011, 06:23 PM
Stokes is a player.That is fur sure.

how about trying Bell or Hart on him, tell him to get up on him. Bell in the zone, he might like that challenge

Lurknomore
11-19-2011, 06:24 PM
Heister is a meatball.

Bogozags
11-19-2011, 06:25 PM
Nice pass b y Pangos into Sacre for two...also, RS has been open at the elbow several times and only shot it once...that is a shot he has to take to keep the defense honest...allowing the high low game to become really effective...imo

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:26 PM
Finally a good entry pass to Sacre in the paint and good move and left-handed shot for 2 points in the paint. At least with the ball in Sacre's hands in the paint you have a high percentage shot or free throws coming. We need to see more of this on the offense end of the court to be consistent. Plus it will open up the perimeter for open looks from the 3pt arc.

ZagNative
11-19-2011, 06:26 PM
This game isn't fun to watch yet. Come on Zags!

bballbeachbum
11-19-2011, 06:27 PM
nice double team by DS/KP off the bounce from Stokes out of TO

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:33 PM
Come on GU don't go to sleep on offense now. We're going to need FG's down the stretch. It looks like Sacre is ready to throw this team on his back...

Bogozags
11-19-2011, 06:34 PM
This game isn't fun to watch yet. Come on Zags!

+1

Seems like we are playing up to the level of our competition...still adjusting this season for sure...

Akzag
11-19-2011, 06:35 PM
What's with the "Play of the Game" & "Sub of the Game" being chosen with 8 minutes left in the game ?

gamagin
11-19-2011, 06:36 PM
spent much of the game trying to get SD and MC going. MC appears to be fully engaged at this time. But why it takes 3/4ths of a game is a mystery to me.

SD looks a bit out of sorts to me. Perhaps a lack of confidence. I don't know. I do know he has one of our quickest releases, but hasn't used it in quite a while.

LongIslandZagFan
11-19-2011, 06:37 PM
What's with the "Play of the Game" & "Sub of the Game" being chosen with 8 minutes left in the game ?

Wondering the same thing.

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:38 PM
Give me more Sacre... :D

canzag
11-19-2011, 06:40 PM
Harris!!!

gamagin
11-19-2011, 06:43 PM
What's with the "Play of the Game" & "Sub of the Game" being chosen with 8 minutes left in the game ?

sponsors get more air time (value) that way. still stupid.

gamagin
11-19-2011, 06:46 PM
Gibs

Bogozags
11-19-2011, 06:47 PM
Our shooting percentage is creeping up...in the 40's now...

Bocco
11-19-2011, 06:48 PM
you been swatted!!!! that was a block with authority

LongIslandZagFan
11-19-2011, 06:48 PM
Ummm Wow... Bobby Sugar with the block.

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:48 PM
Rainbow Warriors throwing in towel... including their coach. Time to put this one in the deep freeze Zags... show us that killer instinct.

Bulldog
11-19-2011, 06:48 PM
Sacre is scary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canzag
11-19-2011, 06:51 PM
Finish strong!!!

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:51 PM
One more rebound for another Sacre double/double...

Bogozags
11-19-2011, 06:51 PM
RS one board from his second DD...Go Pangos!

Oregon Zag
11-19-2011, 06:51 PM
Pangos!

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:53 PM
This was a game I was hoping to see more Spangler, Monninghoff, and Keita with a Zag blow out. This game was too close until the last few minutes.

bballbeachbum
11-19-2011, 06:54 PM
3 guard lineup wins the night...called by gamagin long time ago, yes?

cheers

canzag
11-19-2011, 06:54 PM
NIce trip home for the big fella!!!

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:55 PM
Offensive rebound for Sacre for his 3rd straight double-double... congrats :clap:

bballbeachbum
11-19-2011, 06:55 PM
long time ago this evening...nice adjustment in this game

Bogozags
11-19-2011, 06:56 PM
RS...3rd DD this year! WOW! Great homecoming for him in front of his mother and friends!

canzag
11-19-2011, 06:57 PM
Nice ovation for Rob!!We are proud of him up here.

ZagAddict
11-19-2011, 06:58 PM
Great game for Rob... and GBJ played well in his second straight game too.

Bogozags
11-19-2011, 07:01 PM
My guess is that we will see more GBJ and less Hart...Few seems to like his 3-guard set...