View Full Version : OT: How are Teams Assessed, Really?

03-12-2011, 03:19 AM
I have been wondering how teams are really evaluated and chosen to be in the tournament. WSU is my second favorite team and while I don't think they deserve anything beyond being in the discussion to get into the tournament, it is a big mystery to me how teams are evaluated against each other.

I will use SMC and WSU to try show what I mean. SMC is thought to be firmly inside the Bubble at this time, while WSU has pretty much been tossed to the 5th-8th or more out by most, although I did see a headline earlier that hinted WSU might still get a consideration. If you look at SMC's body of work, I guess they are better because they have 6 more wins and 4 fewer losses, but I am having a tough time evaluating the toughness of their overall schedule vs. WSUs. I respect SMC, and I am glad they seem to be firmly in and it looks like they played more teams that ended up being ranked later in the year while only one WSU opponent, Arizona, is currently ranked. I guess that and the SJU win really is the golden ticket for them this year. Having a W vs. GU aint bad either, but both teams have one of those. Thanks for your opinions, wisdom and sarcasm.

SMC (25-8, 11-3):
Average to Good Wins - St Johns, Gonzaga, Texas Tech ? (13-19), LBSU, Miss ST, Portland, USF (x2), SCU (x3), NMSU ? (16-17), Weber St ? (18-13)

Not Bad Losses - BYU, SDSU, Vandy, Portland, Utah St, Gonzaga (2)

Bad Losses - USD

WSU (19-12, 9-9):
Average to Good Wins - UW (x2), Gonzaga, Portland, Miss ST, Baylor, USC, Cal, Oregon, Santa Clara, Idaho ? (18-13), IUPUI ? (19-14)

Not Bad Losses - KSU, Butler, UCLA (x2), UW, Arizona (x2), USC, Oregon , Cal,

Bad Losses: Stanford, Oregon St.

03-12-2011, 03:50 AM
Short answer: It's very complicated. http://i.imgur.com/sRM5j.gif

See this article (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=jn-tourneymock022311) for an interesting take from the mock selection (and here (http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2011/02/17/ncaa-mock-selection-seminar-day-one-recap/) and here (http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2011/02/19/ncaa-mock-selection-seminar-day-two-recap/) for loads of details about the process).

03-12-2011, 04:09 AM
Klay Thompson would eat St marys guards for dinner, he dropped 40+ on UDUB

03-12-2011, 08:20 AM
SMC vs WSU would be a heck of a game.

WSU is much better on defense than most people think. Conversely, they aren't as good on offense as most people think.

The Huskies quickly ate up a halftime deficit because of WSU offensive turnovers early in the second half. The last thing you want to do with UW is let them run in transition. If WSU had kept the pace slow, took care of the ball, and confined the game to half court action (like in the first half), their defense (and Klay) would have won that game for them.

Since SMC isn't really a running team, I think they would have their hands full with WSU's defense.

WSU's fortunes are more tied to Aiden's streaky shooting than anything. He is the closest thing to bringing offensive balance that the Cougs have.