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Zag 77
02-25-2011, 10:00 AM
It was good to disappoint those ESPN guys. They were openly ready to annoint SMC and declare the end of our string. The king is NOT dead. They must have shown McConnell's winning shot in Spokane about 87 times. I was ready to barf.:vomit-smiley-007:

Zag4Hire
02-25-2011, 10:08 AM
It was good to disappoint those ESPN guys. They were openly ready to annoint SMC and declare the end of our string. The king is NOT dead. They must have shown McConnell's winning shot in Spokane about 87 times. I was ready to barf.:vomit-smiley-007:

That is ESPN's MO when showing mid-major games. If you watched Utah Stats vs Idaho, the same announcing team was towing a similar line. Even Bardo/Gannon towed that line. I guess they are appealing to the fan who could care less about the teams involved and roping the audience in by saying, "This could be a major upset or historical game and you don't want to miss it."

Zag@LMU
02-25-2011, 10:08 AM
McConnell and Delly are the best back court in the nation, didnt you hear?

Zag4Hire
02-25-2011, 10:11 AM
McConnell and Delly are the best back court in the nation, didnt you hear?

Farnham showed his true colors during that comment. Really? MM is pretty good but MD couldn't crack my top 50 list for guards.

DCZag
02-25-2011, 10:15 AM
One of the guys (Farnham?) was a homer - he said he watched games @McKeon as a kid. Tho' they were playing up SMC, at least they are more coherent than our two goofballs - Heister and Ehlo.

Demetri Awesome
02-25-2011, 10:16 AM
I agree those espn announcers need to go! Can't stand listening to their bias comments. Their hurting our ratings!

Das Zagger
02-25-2011, 10:23 AM
Farnham showed his true colors during that comment. Really? MM is pretty good but MD couldn't crack my top 50 list for guards.

Name 50 better guards than Matthew Dellavedova, I'll wait.

I'm dead serious about this too, you best name 50.

madness
02-25-2011, 10:23 AM
The Farnham statements last night finally put him in the Tim McCarver zone with me. (Which is the absolutely worst place to be) In the spirit of http://www.shutuptimmccarver.com/ I am going to register shutupfarnham.com...It's available!

madness
02-25-2011, 10:29 AM
Name 50 better guards than Matthew Dellavedova, I'll wait.

I'm dead serious about this too, you best name 50.

man, this Das guy needs 4 minutes in the box for instigating! I could probably list 100 better guards than him...Sounds like a good weekend project! Criteria: non-flopper who shoots better than 36% from 3 and understands mouth guard sizing standards.

Rio Runner
02-25-2011, 10:29 AM
How many times did the announcers ask, "Is tonight the end of an era in the WCC?" It was almost like they were rooting for a Saint Mary's win.

It was nice to disappoint them.

zagnut2012
02-25-2011, 10:39 AM
Anyone else notice the ocasional "Gone-Zawga" freudian slip? It is like they were asking for a Deacon Jones head slap right through the screen. Still is like finger nails on a chaulk board to me. Learn it already!!!!!!!!:explode:

Zagnut 2012

TexasZagFan
02-25-2011, 10:39 AM
Name 50 better guards than Matthew Dellavedova, I'll wait.

I'm dead serious about this too, you best name 50.

I'm at work, so let me go Reader's Digest:

1. ACC - Duke alone counts for at least 2-3.
2. Big East - with 16 teams, and the heavy hitting schools there, I could probably come up with 10.
3. Big 10 - ditto
4. SEC - 6-10
5. Big 12 - another 10.

As a tandem, I'd say MD & MM would rank in the top 15 in the country, and that ain't bad.

The highlight of the evening for me was the fact that the SMC crowd was unable to storm the floor.

The video loop that was known as MM's shot to win at GU was nearly giving me the same nausea as Franco Harris' "Immaculate Reception".

And that was nearly 40 years ago. I still get ill to this day, and I haven't seriously followed the Raiders for 10 years.

OregonZag5
02-25-2011, 11:04 AM
You are correct- they showed that winning shot from the dfirst game over and over- had a group of people over and I was getting worried they were going to start and throw things at MY tv everytime it was shown.

Then they had that graphic showing what would happen if St Mary's wins and they showed that over and over- Got a little tiring.

Vegas should be fun once again-

whatazag
02-25-2011, 11:21 AM
I hate these announcers, but I honestly felt this was the least annoying they have been all year.

Das Zagger
02-25-2011, 11:42 AM
man, this Das guy needs 4 minutes in the box for instigating! I could probably list 100 better guards than him...Sounds like a good weekend project! Criteria: non-flopper who shoots better than 36% from 3 and understands mouth guard sizing standards.

Go right ahead and do it, again, I'll wait.

Das Zagger
02-25-2011, 11:43 AM
I'm at work, so let me go Reader's Digest:

1. ACC - Duke alone counts for at least 2-3.
2. Big East - with 16 teams, and the heavy hitting schools there, I could probably come up with 10.
3. Big 10 - ditto
4. SEC - 6-10
5. Big 12 - another 10.

As a tandem, I'd say MD & MM would rank in the top 15 in the country, and that ain't bad.

The highlight of the evening for me was the fact that the SMC crowd was unable to storm the floor.

The video loop that was known as MM's shot to win at GU was nearly giving me the same nausea as Franco Harris' "Immaculate Reception".

And that was nearly 40 years ago. I still get ill to this day, and I haven't seriously followed the Raiders for 10 years.

This is some hard hitting analysis here. Do you have a subscription service? If so, I am willing to pay money for it. PM me the details.

TexasZagFan
02-25-2011, 12:12 PM
This is some hard hitting analysis here. Do you have a subscription service? If so, I am willing to pay money for it. PM me the details.

You're going to have to wait until I reach 4000 posts. :lmao:

Edit to add: and I don't Foo anymore...

TexasZagFan
02-25-2011, 12:14 PM
man, this Das guy needs 4 minutes in the box for instigating! I could probably list 100 better guards than him...Sounds like a good weekend project! Criteria: non-flopper who shoots better than 36% from 3 and understands mouth guard sizing standards.

When it comes to flopping, the SMC guard tandem is the best in the nation. That foul on Stockton belonged on "WCC's Funniest Court Videos".

Zag4Hire
02-25-2011, 02:09 PM
Name 50 better guards than Matthew Dellavedova, I'll wait.

I'm dead serious about this too, you best name 50.

Alright. I will play your little game.

In no particular order:

1. Kyrie Irving 2. Nolan Smith 3. Kemba Walker 4. Tu Holloway 5. Steven Gray 6. Jimmer 7. E'Twaun Moore 8. Kalin Lucas 9. Klay Thompson 10. Hansbrough 11.Dwight Hardy 12. Austin Freeman 13. Ashton Gibbs 14. Brad Wanamaker 15. Scotty Hopson 16. Adrian Oliver 17. Jackson Emery 18. Blake Hoffarber 19. Doron Lamb 20. Preston Knowles 21. Darius Morris 22. Jordan Taylor 23. Corey Fisher 24. Norris Cole 25. Talor Battle 26. Malcolm Delaney 27. DJ Gay 28. Shumpert 29. McCamey 30. Erving Walker 31. Chris Wright 32. Lil Zeke (UW) 33. Johnson-Odom 34. Brandon Knight 35. Siva 36. Scoop 37. Alec Burks 38. Denmon 39. Selby 40. John Jenkins 41. Malcolm Lee 42. Buford 43. Cory Joseph 44. Seth Curry 45. Wayns 46. Mack 47. Juan Fernandez 48. Jared Cunningham 49. Pullen 50. Keiton Page

bullzag23
02-25-2011, 02:18 PM
Alright. I will play your little game.

In no particular order:

1. Kyrie Irving 2. Nolan Smith 3. Kemba Walker 4. Tu Holloway 5. Steven Gray 6. Jimmer 7. E'Twaun Moore 8. Kalin Lucas 9. Klay Thompson 10. Hansbrough 11.Dwight Hardy 12. Austin Freeman 13. Ashton Gibbs 14. Brad Wanamaker 15. Scotty Hopson 16. Adrian Oliver 17. Jackson Emery 18. Blake Hoffarber 19. Doron Lamb 20. Preston Knowles 21. Darius Morris 22. Jordan Taylor 23. Corey Fisher 24. Norris Cole 25. Talor Battle 26. Malcolm Delaney 27. DJ Gay 28. Shumpert 29. McCamey 30. Erving Walker 31. Chris Wright 32. Lil Zeke (UW) 33. Johnson-Odom 34. Brandon Knight 35. Siva 36. Scoop 37. Alec Burks 38. Denmon 39. Selby 40. John Jenkins 41. Malcolm Lee 42. Buford 43. Cory Joseph 44. Seth Curry 45. Wayns 46. Mack 47. Juan Fernandez 48. Jared Cunningham 49. Pullen 50. Keiton Page

I think you missed the most obvious one....Mickey McConnell is certainly better than Dellavamouthpiece too

Das Zagger
02-25-2011, 02:48 PM
Alright. I will play your little game.

In no particular order:

1. Kyrie Irving 2. Nolan Smith 3. Kemba Walker 4. Tu Holloway 5. Steven Gray 6. Jimmer 7. E'Twaun Moore 8. Kalin Lucas 9. Klay Thompson 10. Hansbrough 11.Dwight Hardy 12. Austin Freeman 13. Ashton Gibbs 14. Brad Wanamaker 15. Scotty Hopson 16. Adrian Oliver 17. Jackson Emery 18. Blake Hoffarber 19. Doron Lamb 20. Preston Knowles 21. Darius Morris 22. Jordan Taylor 23. Corey Fisher 24. Norris Cole 25. Talor Battle 26. Malcolm Delaney 27. DJ Gay 28. Shumpert 29. McCamey 30. Erving Walker 31. Chris Wright 32. Lil Zeke (UW) 33. Johnson-Odom 34. Brandon Knight 35. Siva 36. Scoop 37. Alec Burks 38. Denmon 39. Selby 40. John Jenkins 41. Malcolm Lee 42. Buford 43. Cory Joseph 44. Seth Curry 45. Wayns 46. Mack 47. Juan Fernandez 48. Jared Cunningham 49. Pullen 50. Keiton Page

That bold and the fact you leave McConnell off.

Besides the fact we're both GU fans, why do you think Gray is better than MD?

primal23
02-25-2011, 03:23 PM
That bold and the fact you leave McConnell off.

Besides the fact we're both GU fans, why do you think Gray is better than MD?

It was stated in no particular order FYI

U Zig, I Zag
02-25-2011, 03:37 PM
This went downhill fast. MM and Delly are a good set of guards, no doubt. Statistically. Statistically they have also played worse competition than many other duo's have.

That said, there is no way those are two are the best 1, 2 punch in the nation and it was silly of the ESPN guy to say so. He even faltered as he said it and added something like, 'if you look at it statistically...'.

Bulldog
02-25-2011, 03:46 PM
That bold and the fact you leave McConnell off.

Besides the fact we're both GU fans, why do you think Gray is better than MD?

Because Gray is a hell of a lot prettier than Delavamouthpiece.

SunDevilGolfZag
02-25-2011, 04:44 PM
Because Gray is a hell of a lot prettier than Delavamouthpiece.

Only a mother could love the latter and that mouthpiece

SunDevilGolfZag
02-25-2011, 04:48 PM
It was good to disappoint those ESPN guys. They were openly ready to annoint SMC and declare the end of our string. The king is NOT dead. They must have shown McConnell's winning shot in Spokane about 87 times. I was ready to barf.:vomit-smiley-007:

Ditto on that. . . . Plus, they were too unprepared and ill-informed to fill time with anything else. They're the ESPN2 "B" Team at best

chirguy
02-25-2011, 05:12 PM
I don't see how you are getting on these two. Without them St Maries is the bottom of the WCC. I am really impressed with them both. They play hard. MM is like Adam in the lane. I was really impressed. They hustle.

Zag4Hire
02-26-2011, 05:24 AM
That bold and the fact you leave McConnell off.

Besides the fact we're both GU fans, why do you think Gray is better than MD?

Based on my previous statement, I thought it was understood that I would say MM is better than MD. I wanted to put him last but it takes a while to compile a list and I accidentally omitted him. Plus, I am only putting players I have actually seen on TV and it seems that some other ranked guards from other lists could be put on here as well.

Gray is definitely better than MD. I think SG creates more offense, plays very solid defense, could hold his own against BCS style athletes, and I think SG would shine more if he had a solid PG. I think MD definitely benefits from playing with MM.