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kylasdad
06-05-2007, 10:16 PM
Any new on LG's back? I have seen people putting him at the 3 next year in mock lineups but I have not heard any reports on how his back is doing. I hope it is doing well, even if he can't step back on the court. I hate to see people go down like that.

bigparb
06-05-2007, 10:40 PM
I ran into LG at the Pita Pit a couple of days ago and I asked him about the back, to which he replied, "100% brother, 100%....". Personally, I believe that LG is our most intuitive open court defender, and I can't wait to see him back on the court, though I do hope he's been working hard on that jumper. I remember him playing the point position on the press two yrs ago and being impressed with how disruptive he was. I think he could be just as effective as Errol was.

Personally, when I look at guys like LG, Theo and the 4 new guys being added to what is returning, I'd love to see a "40 minutes of hell" style deployed by Few this year. I just can't see leaving guys 8-12(LG, Grey, Foster, Sacre, Kuso) on the bench for most of the season. We've got the horses now, let's use them!! Make them go 100% all the time and when they get tired, bring in another horse!!!

sittingon50
06-05-2007, 10:52 PM
I'm with you, parb!

ZagNut08
06-05-2007, 11:21 PM
When LG finished his freshman campaign his offense was still very raw, and I thought if he improved upon that he would be a solid player for us. However, with his injury, I can't help but believe he may have regressed in these areas being inactive. You cant work on finishing at the rim with a back injury, the constant jumping required to fine tune a jump shot would be to much.


But, I think if he embraces a role like Knight...one confined to defense, and a very limited role on offense (garbage points mainly) he could be effective. We will have a lot of offensive firepower next year, it might not hurt to have a defensive minded guy out there who isnt looking for his shot. This is what he has to do, imo, to get minutes.

Zagdawg
06-06-2007, 05:31 AM
Lots of dunks----- after the steals on defense to light up the crowd ----

RebornZag
06-06-2007, 06:05 AM
GREAT NEW!!!! Thanks for the update.

kitzbuel
06-06-2007, 10:48 AM
I ran into LG at the Pita Pit a couple of days ago and I asked him about the back, to which he replied, "100% brother, 100%....". Personally, I believe that LG is our most intuitive open court defender, and I can't wait to see him back on the court, though I do hope he's been working hard on that jumper. I remember him playing the point position on the press two yrs ago and being impressed with how disruptive he was. I think he could be just as effective as Errol was.

Personally, when I look at guys like LG, Theo and the 4 new guys being added to what is returning, I'd love to see a "40 minutes of hell" style deployed by Few this year. I just can't see leaving guys 8-12(LG, Grey, Foster, Sacre, Kuso) on the bench for most of the season. We've got the horses now, let's use them!! Make them go 100% all the time and when they get tired, bring in another horse!!!

As long and quick as those guys are (don't leave out Downs), it could be hellish.

lothar98zag
06-06-2007, 11:29 AM
When LG finished his freshman campaign his offense was still very raw, and I thought if he improved upon that he would be a solid player for us. However, with his injury, I can't help but believe he may have regressed in these areas being inactive. You cant work on finishing at the rim with a back injury, the constant jumping required to fine tune a jump shot would be to much.


But, I think if he embraces a role like Knight...one confined to defense, and a very limited role on offense (garbage points mainly) he could be effective. We will have a lot of offensive firepower next year, it might not hurt to have a defensive minded guy out there who isnt looking for his shot. This is what he has to do, imo, to get minutes.
I have the same concerns.

One problem GU has had in the past is that the players that were really good at D didn't have any O and vise versa. Hopefully that's changing and next year GU won't have to play 4-on-5 at any point due to a players lack of skill on one side of the ball.

Hopefully LG will be able to make enough improvements to his O game so he can get some decent minutes next year. (I think he D is fine) Because if he doesn't I can see where he'd be an odd man out in favor of other players that have skill sets that are more balanced between O & D.

94zagoldwomanasherdsmen
06-06-2007, 12:35 PM
I ran into LG at the Pita Pit a couple of days ago and I asked him about the back, to which he replied, "100% brother, 100%....". Personally, I believe that LG is our most intuitive open court defender, and I can't wait to see him back on the court, though I do hope he's been working hard on that jumper. I remember him playing the point position on the press two yrs ago and being impressed with how disruptive he was. I think he could be just as effective as Errol was.

Personally, when I look at guys like LG, Theo and the 4 new guys being added to what is returning, I'd love to see a "40 minutes of hell" style deployed by Few this year. I just can't see leaving guys 8-12(LG, Grey, Foster, Sacre, Kuso) on the bench for most of the season. We've got the horses now, let's use them!! Make them go 100% all the time and when they get tired, bring in another horse!!!

Wasn't it UAB that was doing that rather effectively in the past few years? (I just remember the green and gold uniforms?)

kylasdad
06-06-2007, 03:44 PM
Thanks for the replies. I hope he can come back strong. Hopefully he understands more of the nuances of the system and can be in the right place at the right time on O and D. Most importantly, I hope his back is 100% and stays that way.

Go Zags

Kiddwell
06-07-2007, 08:46 AM
"One of the elite athletes in the west for 2005, Gurganious is a terrific defender. Very effective slashing off the wing, with a developing jump shot. One of the top wings in the west."

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=130&p=8&c=1&nid=626575

Elsewhere, as I recall, LG was said to have the biggest upside of all the West Coast SFs for that year.

Health + Experience = :p

:]

USF
06-07-2007, 09:37 AM
Larry Gurganious was part a really good high school class in the bay area a couple of years ago. Him, John Bryant, Diamon Simpson, Chris Oakes, Drew Shiller, Jesse Byrd and Dior Lowhorn. Of those guys, Oakes has transferred from Pepperdine (don't know where he ended up), Byrd transferred to UCSB, Shiller transferred to Stanford and Lowhorn transferred from Texas Tech to USF. Lowhorn was the player of the year in the Bay Area that year, but many felt that Gurganious wasn't far behind. Simpson really developed after HS and Bryant has really improved his game by losing weight.

Unfortunately, it looks like LG will be lost in the shuffle at GU. His injury has really set him back and you've recruited a lot of guys that will take his minutes even when he comes back. I felt that maybe he should have transferred, taken a year to get healthy and gone somewhere where he could get minutes.

lawzag
06-07-2007, 09:51 AM
Unfortunately, I agree with USF.
LG had some real flashes of brilliance on D 2 years ago, and I believe had the raw talent to develop into a great defensive specialist even without much O. But with his injury last year, he has not had the opportunity to develop his O at all and is now really behind the curve.

Thus, IMHO he will probably be lost in the shuffle this year due to the tremendous new talents we have recruited who have both the O and the D to really limit LG's minutes... :(

Larryzag
06-07-2007, 11:00 AM
LG will get his chance because of his D. Hopefully he will capitalize on his chance and make himself too valuable to sit. We need him to disrupt the other teams like we saw two years ago. Nothing like steals and breakaway dunks to charge up the crowd.

RebornZag
06-07-2007, 03:34 PM
Don't count LG out. He isn't staying around Gonzaga to warm the bench that's for sure. As a Freshman I liked him better than Pargo. I thought Pargo was horrible. Look has Jeremy has improved. Give LG a chance. You may be surprised.

Nevtelen
06-07-2007, 04:34 PM
The difference is that Pargo had the time and opportunity to improve. LG has been injured so hasn't had that same opportunity. I guess we can hope he was at least working on a jumper - I assume that wouldn't have strained him too much. I'm a little worried that people say he's a huge defensive stopper, but not great on offense. I think we have enough guys around who are good at both ends that unless his offense really improves, I think his PT could really be limited. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Maybe if he's all cleared to practice now, he'll really get to work on his game like Pargo reportedly did last off-season.

tyra
06-07-2007, 05:27 PM
Come on people. We wouldn't be having this conversation about an offensive specialist. Their lack of defensive prowess would just cause us all to look at them as a "role" player. LG is a superb defensive player and I think that is an incredibly valuable asset to have on a team. Let's hope he has fully healed and will get a chance to make a contribution.

peg645
06-07-2007, 05:47 PM
Tyra is 100% correct.

WE NEED D....WE NEED D...and a healthy LG is the best defensive player we have. Errol didn't have to score big to be one of our most important players and neither does LG.

RebornZag
06-07-2007, 06:00 PM
You can say what you want about LG. It's all ok. I just have this deep feeling he's a pretty tough cookie. 1st to even make a comeback from an injury like he has. 2nd, I know he is tough. I wouldn't judge his offense on his Freshman year. That's all I'm saying. He can play offense. He's not going to be a big scorer. But IMO, he's going to fill in where PMAC did, and do it much better. I think that's why PMAC left. He knew there were no minutes for him. PMAC could play D. He had NO offense. Nor would he look for it. I'm remaining pretty open minded about LG. 1st because he was a favorite of mine his Freshman year. I LOVED THE WAY he played defense. He was very, very good on that press. Last year we had NO press at all. GU has liked to press from time to time. And I think certain years they had a pretty good press. Certainly with Errol. LG can give us that if he's 100% healthy.

Zagdawg
06-07-2007, 06:05 PM
Reborn and Tyra are right-- LG will get his chance because we need the defensive stopper that he can be-- can he be that lockdown defender-- roll player-- with an offensive show at times when he gets the steal---

I look forward to his contribution ---

Zag79
06-10-2007, 11:01 PM
you guys are downplaying LGs offensive skills too much. watch clips of his O that first season and you will see what he can do regularly with PT and experience! kid can score.


High School: Attended St. Mary's High in Berkeley, Calif., playing for head coach Manny Nodar...senior season averaged 22.5 ppg and 11.0 rpg as the Panthers went 29-5, losing to Campbell Hall 74-53 in the CIF Division IV State Championships title game to finish the season 29-5...scored 21 points and grabbed 8 rebounds in the title-game loss...in the Northern California semifinal he missed his first seven shots and St. Mary's fell behind Valley Christian of San Jose by 17 points, but he finished with 25 points in a 70-56 victory...scored 13 of his 9 points in the third quarter in 66-52 win over Marin Catholic in the title game of the Northern California Division IV championship game for the right to play for the State title...scored 11 points in a 13-3 run that increased St. Mary's lead to 55-30...scored 11 of his game-high 22 points in fourth quarter in 58-50 win over Salesian in the Bay Shore Athletic League title game...junior season averaged 20 ppg, 11 rpg, 4 assists/game and 2 blocks/game...attended the ABCD All-American Camp in Teaneck, NJ, the NBA Players Association Top 100 Camp in Richmond, Va., and was selected as the best small forward on the Best in the West team selected by the Long Beach Press-Telegram.



Larry Gurganious' Collegiate Career
FRESHMAN (2005-06): Played in 31-of-33 games...got a lot of minutes early in the season while Erroll Knight was recovering from a nagging knee injury, then saw more time when Josh Heytvelt was sidelined with a broken ankle four games into the season...played 9 minutes against Connecticut in title game of the EA Sports Maui Invitational, scoring 4 points and grabbing 4 rebounds against the Huskies...

kylasdad
06-11-2007, 03:22 PM
It seemed to me that LG had a hurt wrist??? during his freshman year as well. If that is true, that might mess with a guys shooting a little bit. Either way, I really hope he is back cuz he really looks good stealing the ball and getting a break away dunk!