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El Voce
01-15-2011, 08:06 PM
I don't know if it was evident on the telecast, but Keita flat wore Viney, LMU's best player, out in the second half. It was a war between the two of them every possession once Keita came in. Arop started the half on Viney, and was also blanketing him, but got in foul trouble. Great effort by both Keita and Arop.

former1dog
01-15-2011, 08:12 PM
Although their games are not similar, Keita's effort while on the court is in the mold of a Mark Spink or a Pendo.

He is quickly becoming my favorite player on our team.

I really appreciated David Stockton's game tonight, but to me, Keita was our top performing sub. The coaches might agree also considering he had the most minutes of any non starter.

zag buddy
01-15-2011, 08:29 PM
I am definately becoming a big Keita and Stockton fan. They both change the tempo at both ends of the floor.

bigparb
01-15-2011, 08:38 PM
I must confess that the first time I saw Keita play I thought.....he's one and done....back to France......He's not overly athletic and he's certainly not very smooth......he runs around like he's got feet that are 5 sizes too big and he doesn't have the best looking set of handles.....not to mention the shot....

BUT.........

My goodness.....the kid got his chance and took the bull by the horns!!!! This kid has shown himself to be a gamer.....he exhibits a solid BB IQ and he just flat out plays hard..........I'll root for and back a kid like this all day long.....Keita has certainly won over this Zag fan with his hustle and heart......
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now...not to be a "debbie downer", but I would apply the opposite of all the nice qualities of Keita to Quise Carter....the kid plays "too cool" and "too cocky" (its written all over his face) and too slow.......where's the heart, the passion and the will to just dig in and flat out play as hard as you can??

Carter carried my highest expectations and hopes coming into the season......however, now......can't see him getting off the bench next yr with Pangos/Bell in the mix for the PG/combo guard duties with Meech, Arop, Keita and stocks........could definitely see Quise leaving the program for a D2 program for his SR yr.........that said, I wish the kid nothing but the best and hope that something clicks and he proves me wrong....

Go Zags!!

Baseline
01-15-2011, 08:40 PM
There was a mini war between Viney and Keita out there tonight. It was fun to watch! Keita controls the ball very well and if he turns into a shooter to go with his defense, Few will have to give him a lot of time. Arop and Keita both give great defense at that position, a nice combination to have.

bballbeachbum
01-15-2011, 08:44 PM
I'm a fan. can be a game changer with efforts like tonight

Allez Mathis!!!

MickMick
01-15-2011, 08:48 PM
As Jethro Bodine might say, Keita is our "double ott spy" secret weapon for SMC.

He is going to wear them down, then Hoff will come in and shoot over the top.

Keita is Mr. stamina. Relentless on both ends and he uses his head. Plays great as a first year player.

Really, really good for a first year player.

MDABE80
01-15-2011, 09:03 PM
He looks to have changed since he came. Much more of everything. He's even got some nice speed now.
Maybe he was just tentative.but he's blossoming now.

I wonder how many have watch Manny work over an offensive player. Forget the rest of the screen goings on and just watch him for 5 minutes or more. Stuff you never see or think to see. Manny is just a blanket of glue.....he gives up nothing. Air even! He is simply a smothering type. Not watched him in isolation before....he surprises me more each game.
Him and Keita plus Meech (less so Steven these days...not sure what's happened there) will work over most guards so SF we've see thus far.

ROB needs help down low. He's wearing himself out.

Nevtelen
01-15-2011, 09:52 PM
I wonder how many have watch Manny work over an offensive player. Forget the rest of the screen goings on and just watch him for 5 minutes or more. Stuff you never see or think to see. Manny is just a blanket of glue.....he gives up nothing. Air even! He is simply a smothering type. Not watched him in isolation before....he surprises me more each game.

Manny has gotten a lot better on D. Last season, and even at the beginning of this season, I think how much he got beat on D was a big factor that limited his playing time. He gave up the baseline to his man too often and used his hands on D too much because he was a step slow. He's really improved, but I think he still has room to get better. I'll have to watch him more closely out there for a longer time.



ROB needs help down low. He's wearing himself out.

Anybody else notice Rob constantly testing and rubbing his right shoulder while he was out there? I hope he's not wearing out too much. If we want to win another WCC title, those shoulders are going to have to carry us there.

BTW, after the first game or two, I thought Keita would barely see the court. Man did he look lost out there. It's amazing how far he's come in such a short time. He just fights and scraps out there and makes the other team's lives miserable. Once he develops his skills a bit more, he could really be a force out there.

Hoopaholic
01-15-2011, 10:00 PM
the development of Keita and Arop on the defensive end has taken alot of burden off Gray and who he "has to" guard. This will pay BIG TIME dividends towards the end of the year as we continue to make a push as Gray will not have had to focus as much as he has in the past on defending the teams "best " wing player......huge and nice to see

The509sfinest
01-15-2011, 10:19 PM
Happy birthday Keita!

fedwayzag
01-15-2011, 10:25 PM
Gotta say I am defensive minded. Loved oth manny and Keita defense. I usually just watch the game, but tonight I found myself enjoying both of them playing defense. What a joy and luxury to have on the team.

kitzbuel
01-16-2011, 03:47 AM
Although their games are not similar, Keita's effort while on the court is in the mold of a Mark Spink or a Pendo.


:agreed:

I have noted a Pendo type doggedness and aggressiveness in his play. He really seems to get a determined look in his eyes when he is staring at the player he is defending.

NotoriousZ
01-16-2011, 06:36 AM
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He is quickly becoming my favorite player on our team.
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Mine too, we really look good when he's on the court.

bigblahla
01-16-2011, 07:54 AM
Our flying Frenchman is manufique.

Viney was getting really frustrated saw him knee Keita to the stomach during one episode, looked like he was trying to get the refs to help him out to no avail. Great "D" on a really good player.

Happy belated birthday Mathis.

Keep up the good work. :D

Go!! Zags!!!

scrooner
01-16-2011, 08:42 AM
Although their games are not similar, Keita's effort while on the court is in the mold of a Mark Spink or a Pendo.

Same jersey # as Pendo too. Coincidence?!?

BobZag
01-16-2011, 09:28 AM
Mathis Keita = Anthony Reason

That's the best comparison I can think of. A defensive specialist with the promise of more offensive abiities later.

LMUZAG
01-16-2011, 09:41 AM
I stated in the GUnit of the game thread that Keita would have gotten my vote if he was an option. He is so much fun to watch and is quickly rising in value to this team.

ZagNative
01-16-2011, 09:52 AM
This thread needs a pic, this one from the SI Zags Photo Gallery (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/ncaa/men/teams/gonzaga-bulldogs/gallery/index.html?photoNum=5):


http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/teamphotos/ncaab/20110115/Loyola_Gonzaga_Basketball.sff_52708_team.jpg
Gonzaga's Mathis Keita (25) struggles to move downcourt against Loyola's defense in the second half of an NCAA college basketball game, Saturday, Jan. 15, 2011, in Spokane, Wash. Gonzaga defeated Loyola 79-59. (AP Photo/Jed Conklin)

ID ZAGFAN
01-16-2011, 10:39 AM
I don't know if it was evident on the telecast, but Keita flat wore Viney, LMU's best player, out in the second half. It was a war between the two of them every possession once Keita came in. Arop started the half on Viney, and was also blanketing him, but got in foul trouble. Great effort by both Keita and Arop.

+1
Yep. It came through on the telecast.


ZaGranny

MickMick
01-16-2011, 04:49 PM
Mathis Keita = Anthony Reason

That's the best comparison I can think of. A defensive specialist with the promise of more offensive abiities later.

Anthony Reason was good.

I think Keita will be better. The kid is new to the program. The sky is the limit.
Was Reason this good his freshman year? I don't think so. In fact, I don't think there are a whole lot of Zags that improved this much over the course of their freshman year. Not more than a handful.

I think there are better comparisons when thinking 3 years down the road. Mine is Kyle Weaver.

ZagNative
01-16-2011, 04:53 PM
Anthony Reason Zag bio (http://www.gozags.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/reason_anthony00.html).

sittingon50
01-16-2011, 06:12 PM
As Native posted, Anthony came after 2 years of JC. I like what I've seen so far but IMO Mathis will never be the high wire act that Anthony was.

stretchlimo
01-16-2011, 06:30 PM
Not exactly the most popular name around Zag nation ;), but Belser would be my comparison for Keita. Mathis has a similar frame, and looks like he can inflict similar pain to opposing offenses.

Super, super job yesterday. Zags were plus-21 with Mathis on the court, and minus-1 without.

MickMick
01-16-2011, 07:06 PM
As Native posted, Anthony came after 2 years of JC. I like what I seen so far but IMO Mathis will never be the high wire act that Anthony was.

I just recall Reason at the end of his GU career. I think Keita will be more of an offensive threat and less of a rebounder than Reason.

Reason and Errol Knight seem more similar to me than Reason and Keita. All good defensive players, but Kieta is less of a leaper and more of a ball handler/dribbler. More inclined for a slashing layup or assist than a flying put back.

I'm sticking with his extreme ceiling as comparable to Kyle Weaver.

Mantua
01-16-2011, 10:26 PM
As Native posted, Anthony came after 2 years of JC. I like what I seen so far but IMO Mathis will never be the high wire act that Anthony was.

I don't see Anthony Reason when I watch Keita. As Mick Mick pointed out, he's not a leaper. The hustle and speed are there. That's for sure.

What I see is the intensity and desire and raw material of a kid with talent. His ascent as a real contributor seemed to come out of the blue. I've noticed this kind of fire before in students gifted in other disciplines, especially in dancers. Keita's confidence and determination also speak to the drive of talented player. He is just beginning to play, just a freshman.

This bench is something else! Watching SDSU yesterday, having a senior team that has played together for 4 years, I was thinking about this group as
juniors and seniors. They are exciting to watch now. Wow.