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ZagNative
12-02-2010, 09:45 PM
From NewsOK (http://newsok.com/high-school-notes-david-glidden-named-gatorade-oklahoma-football-player-of-the-year/article/3520074):

BRIDGE CREEK'S SPANGLER OPENS WITH TRIPLE-DOUBLE

He's only been out of football pads for a couple weeks, but Bridge Creek standout Ryan Spangler is clearly in basketball shape.

The 6-foot-8 Gonzaga signee recorded a triple-double Tuesday night in the Bobcats' 54-33 win over Newcastle. Spangler had 28 points, 19 rebounds and 10 blocked shots in the season opener.

“He has improved so much from last year,” coach Jason Sanders said. “His conditioning is a lot better than in the past and his ball-handling has improved more than anything.”Not sure if I posted Ryan's schedule yet, per MaxPreps (http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/A3MtKcG3TUOvEcxVRI8Lwg/bridge-creek-bobcats/basketball/schedule.htm). Games marked with * are conference games:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_UkLNCxT74w4/TPiQ91Y4WVI/AAAAAAABNQQ/csf2hjtQsjs/2010-12-02%20Ryan%20Spangler%20Schedule.jpg

MDABE80
12-02-2010, 10:50 PM
Is this a serious league? Small school kids sometimes produce wild stats. I recall it's not the highest ranked league in OK but I think it's 2nd in league rankings in OK. Anyone?
His stats are as wild as Dranginis' from last weekend.

Birddog
12-03-2010, 03:06 AM
Is this a serious league? Small school kids sometimes produce wild stats. I recall it's not the highest ranked league in OK but I think it's 2nd in league rankings in OK. Anyone?

In OK there are 7 classifications from 6A down to B. 4A ranks third, but it is misleading. BC just squeeked into 4A (they were last in). They figure the classes by grouping (from memory here) the top 32 in avg daily attendance are 6A, then the next either 32 or 64 are 5A, then I think it's 64 (probably more) are in 4A, and so on. The school they beat was a nearby rival, but as you said, small schools can have wild disparity in talent. I might be able to catch a game in Jan when BC plays up N of OKC closer to where I live. The real test will be when they have playoffs(State) in late Feb. To make things even more confusing, BC just finished their football season playing in 3A. I'm not sure why they use different classes for respective sports and since I don't have a dog in this hunt, I'm not gonna research it. I will ask one of my pals over the weekend, he's more up on this stuff than I am.

PS re talent: This reminded me of when I was attending Deer park HS in the mid 60's. We were in the same league as Colville (Northeast A League), but they were huge (about 600 students) and we were smallish with right at 300. Furthermore, we had a real paucity of talent and our tallest player was 6'2". We might have been small, but we were real slow and had a lousy coaching staff. We opened up our dbl header at Colville with our JV squad ( I was on it) getting hammered 127 to 28. The Varsity gave us all kind of $hit and then they went out and got beat 128 to 27. I t was a long bus ride back to DP. It should be noted that those were the Golden Years for Colville, they placed several members of their football team in Div 1 schools. Sittin on 50 knows what I'm talking about.

bigblahla
12-03-2010, 04:19 AM
Definetely CHS Golden years. Football team ranked #1, the only team to score on them in 64 was Mead and they scored just 6 points. The basketball team was amazing also ranked #1 for class A and could put up 100 points in a high school game. my fondest memory of those days was the Christmas tournament in Colville that Colville won over Springdale in Double overtime, if I remember correctly, because the Chargers had this red headed kid named Wayne who carried the team and went on to be a fairly successful basketball coach at Ferris. He played the most outstanding game I've ever seen in person but then I was only a kid at that time.

Go!! Zags!!!

Birddog
12-03-2010, 05:02 AM
Not in '64, maybe '63. In '63 you beat us 53 to 0 at Colville, in '64, I believe it was 33 to 13 at DPHS and only 13 to 6 at the half IIRC. I played on those teams and remember the beatings well. Douvia, Peone, Haney, a smalliish wideout maybe named West, damn you guys were good. Me and another guy tackled Peone for no-gain on a sweep, the only no-gainer of the night in '64. It hurt hitting that guy and his thighs were so huge I couldn't wrap him up.

Martin Centre Mad Man
12-03-2010, 05:41 AM
Is this a serious league? Small school kids sometimes produce wild stats. I recall it's not the highest ranked league in OK but I think it's 2nd in league rankings in OK. Anyone?
His stats are as wild as Dranginis' from last weekend.

Small town high school ball produces some wild statistics when one team has one or two really good players and the other team doesn't.

My high school team's All-State forward once single-handedly outrebounded an opposing team 25-18 for the entire game and scored 30 points in only two quarters of action. We were playing a tiny high school whose coach lost a couple of starters to academic ineligibility and another couple of starters to school disciplinary actions. By the time they trotted out the leftovers from the J.V. squad, their tallest starter was about 5'9". Their coach actually asked my coach if he could borrow a couple of our freshmen to sit as reserve players so that he could field a team.

Baldwinzag
12-03-2010, 06:03 AM
At the FT line---
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs574.ash2/149648_527865428055_176401541_30825404_6805679_n.j pg
You can't handle this--
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1142.snc4/148451_527866101705_176401541_30825419_3201917_n.j pg
Box out--
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1178.snc4/154996_527866156595_176401541_30825421_5550431_n.j pg
Rebound!--
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1226.snc4/155841_527866351205_176401541_30825426_8092162_n.j pg

Baldwinzag
12-03-2010, 06:10 AM
D-D-D-Defense---
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs594.ash2/154672_527866366175_176401541_30825427_4247631_n.j pg
Soon to be Slamma Jamma--
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1186.snc4/150867_527866460985_176401541_30825431_6171981_n.j pg
Leadership--
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs737.ash1/163028_527866470965_176401541_30825432_7917811_n.j pg
BOOM Shaka-Laka!--
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs610.ash2/156250_460852791495_88595346495_6063216_6624227_n. jpg

Baldwinzag
12-03-2010, 06:19 AM
Cross-over--
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1168.snc4/151048_527866321265_176401541_30825425_3801723_n.j pg
Nice view from up here--watch out down below--lay-up
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs968.snc4/76095_527865403105_176401541_30825403_4875952_n.jp g
That Ball is mine B-town--
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1156.snc4/149806_527866041825_176401541_30825417_7319121_n.j pg

gozagswoohoo
12-03-2010, 06:37 AM
He is pretty close to qualifying as having 'zag hair', don't you guys think?

That would be a definite plus.

EuroZag2010
12-03-2010, 06:54 AM
He is pretty close to qualifying as having 'zag hair', don't you guys think?

That would be a definite plus.

Lol yes definitely !! He looks good in the pics

U Zig, I Zag
12-03-2010, 07:17 AM
1. Needs more tats, but that will come. Rob will show him the way.
2. Needs Matt's stylist/shampoo/conditioner - where's the bounce??

MickMick
12-03-2010, 07:30 AM
1. Needs more tats, but that will come. Rob will show him the way.
2. Needs Matt's stylist/shampoo/conditioner - where's the bounce??

His hair is soaked with sweat.

That is the most beautiful "doo" for basketball you can have.

Baldwinzag
12-03-2010, 07:37 AM
Must admit, Spangler's game, demeanor, and build remind me a lot of this guy(at the same stage)---

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/gonz/sports/m-baskbl/99-00action/ncaa/5-lg.jpg

Gufan
12-03-2010, 07:41 AM
Not to completely discount the incredible numbers, but looking at the competition in the pictures explains quite a bit. You still need a heck of a motor to accumulate those stats and that's great, but I would sure hope he has those kind of numbers if those are the guys he's playing against/with.

CaliforniaZaggin'
12-03-2010, 07:46 AM
Ryan Spangler messed around and got a triple double? I wonder if there was also "no barking from the dog, no smog, and momma cooked the breakfast with no hog."

sittingon50
12-03-2010, 07:57 AM
Thanks for the props, guys.

It was the '63 team that pitched shutouts in every game except one. Beat #4ranked Mead (AA, at the time the biggest classification in the state) 23-6. Game played before a packed house at the Spokane Fairgrounds (where the Indians still play). An Asst. Coach told me years later that the lone score they gave up (the whole year) was a busted assignment. They were disappointed.

As was mentioned, several of those guys went D1. The most successful was Bob Haney (a Jr. on that squad) who went on to play for the Vandals & then about 6 years for the Detroit Lions as an offensive lineman. He later came back to Spokane and coached at Shadle (Rypien years?). That same group of athletes finished 4th & 8th at state in basketball.

Bird, you may be interested to know that Deer Park now has a larger enrollment than Colville. We dropped down to 1A this year, they remained at 2A.

Gufan
12-03-2010, 08:06 AM
Ryan Spangler messed around and got a triple double? I wonder if there was also "no barking from the dog, no smog, and momma cooked the breakfast with no hog."

Classic. Great post :lmao:

bigblahla
12-03-2010, 08:10 AM
Not in '64, maybe '63. In '63 you beat us 53 to 0 at Colville, in '64, I believe it was 33 to 13 at DPHS and only 13 to 6 at the half IIRC. I played on those teams and remember the beatings well. Douvia, Peone, Haney, a smalliish wideout maybe named West, damn you guys were good. Me and another guy tackled Peone for no-gain on a sweep, the only no-gainer of the night in '64. It hurt hitting that guy and his thighs were so huge I couldn't wrap him up.

Gary "The Tank" Peone, your probably right on 63, I think it was the Cheney game in Colvile that year he took the opening kickoff and the Blackhawks had three players go down on that play trying to tackle him, two with broken collar bones. Gary West was the wideout and you have to add Dennis Schuerman in there watching him and Gary Douvia run, wow what memories.

Go!! Zags!!!

U Zig, I Zag
12-03-2010, 08:25 AM
His hair is soaked with sweat.

That is the most beautiful "doo" for basketball you can have.

I was just being facetious.

He looks like a heck of a player.

Baldwinzag
12-03-2010, 08:32 AM
For those surprised by his stats,

Spangler averaged 26.4 points and 18.2 rebounds for Bridge Creek as a Junior.

As many eluded to, I don't care whom(or what) you're playing against, those numbers are impressive.

Heck, I couldn't those put up those numbers if you locked me in the gym for 30 mins by myself.

Martin Centre Mad Man
12-03-2010, 08:43 AM
For those surprised by his stats,

Spangler averaged 26.4 points and 18.2 rebounds for Bridge Creek as a Junior.

As many eluded to, I don't care whom(or what) you're playing against, those numbers are impressive.

Heck, I couldn't those put up those numbers if you locked me in the gym for 30 mins by myself.


I could put up those rebounding numbers if you locked me in a gym by myself with a ball and a hoop. The scoring numbers might be a bit of a reach.

HillBillyZag
12-03-2010, 09:34 AM
Jerry West put up very similar stats back in the 50's when HBZ proudly wore wore the Green & Gold of St Patricks High School in Weston , I had the priviledge of playing against him , and believe me , he was the real deal ! And the size of the school isn't always a barometer of the talent on a basketball court , my biggest thrill in sports was beating Wheeling Central Catholic , who had over 1000 students , 87-61 , in 56 , when we had an enrollment of about 200 or less . From what I've heard , read , and seen , Spangler appears to be the " real deal " and if he can give us what guys like Casey, Zach , and Pendo did on the floor , this fan will be tickled to death ! I can hardly wait !

BobZag
12-03-2010, 09:55 AM
"Motor" is one of the most important factors in bigs.

DixieZag
12-03-2010, 10:21 AM
He certainly passes the "eye" test. The definition of a man among boys. He looks like he is 25. Additionally, he already has the muscle base that will be needed for a D-1, 6'8 forward.

thespywhozaggedme
12-03-2010, 10:46 AM
Must admit, Spangler's game, demeanor, and build remind me a lot of this guy(at the same stage)---

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/gonz/sports/m-baskbl/99-00action/ncaa/5-lg.jpg

Your lips to Gods ear. On aside not CC is in Spokane, is he not? He would be a great tutor.

thespywhozaggedme
12-03-2010, 10:51 AM
Hey birddog, if he puts up comparable numbers all season, he s gotta be a favorite for Oklahoma POY. Who are the other contenders?

thespywhozaggedme
12-03-2010, 11:02 AM
Hey birddog, if he puts up comparable numbers all season, he s gotta be a favorite for Oklahoma POY. Who are the other contenders?

MDABE80
12-03-2010, 11:20 AM
His hair is soaked with sweat.

That is the most beautiful "doo" for basketball you can have.

Exactly right Mick. Iwas noticing that too. Hard working non posers are always raw boned kids with the wet, gooey heads. Middle photo also shows some good vert. Big thing seen is his hands. Big big hands. Good signs all!
:pray:

Martin Centre Mad Man
12-03-2010, 11:25 AM
Must admit, Spangler's game, demeanor, and build remind me a lot of this guy(at the same stage)---

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/gonz/sports/m-baskbl/99-00action/ncaa/5-lg.jpg

That guy looks too clean cut to be a tough guy. He needs more tats. His hair's too short.

Bring back Zach "What's in your wallet?" Gourde.

Birddog
12-12-2010, 08:48 AM
Bridge Creek has won it's last two games and Spangler has had 31pts (of 53)and 24pts(of 54) respectively. No other stats available.

thespywhozaggedme
12-12-2010, 10:25 AM
Bridge Creek has won it's last two games and Spangler has had 31pts (of 53)and 24pts(of 54) respectively. No other stats available.

Not sure if you saw my question to you in this thread, so I'll ask you again: what are Ryan's chances at being named Oklahima POY and who would be his main competition? Thanks

Birddog
12-12-2010, 11:01 AM
Not sure if you saw my question to you in this thread, so I'll ask you again: what are Ryan's chances at being named Oklahima POY and who would be his main competition? Thanks

I missed it. To answer your question, I don't know of any other candidates, but then I don't pay a lot of attention to HS BB. As far as I know, no one is being hyped up just yet. The local paper designates a "Little HS" player of the year and a "Big HS" poy. Those titles are reserved for OKC metro areas, which BTW is pretty large geographically (about a 50 mile radius). I'd say he is probably a pretty safe bet for statewide honors as an All Stater regardless of school size, and will most likely be Small HS poy for this area. HS football playoffs are still underway, so another week or so before they start to cover BB in any significant way.

Birddog
12-13-2010, 05:24 AM
Found a list of pre-season picks for Oklahoma Super 5 (10/11) and Spangler is listed. He's the only one who has signed an LOI although one kid (Jr) has an offer from Kansas, and another is only a Soph.
http://dailyposted.com/breaking-news/the-oklahoman%E2%80%99s-preseason-boys-basketball-super-5-20625.html

gozagswoohoo
12-13-2010, 05:59 AM
Holy Capoly, thru 4 games, Sprangler the Strangler is averaging the following:

32 points per game

20 rebounds per game

6.75 blocks per game

Shooting 69% from the field





One question, I may have missed this, but I wonder why he didn't start his last game?

Birddog
12-13-2010, 06:20 AM
He also avgs 4 assists to 1.25 TO's and 2.25 steals. Bear in mind the competition at this level is spotty, but those are still huge numbers. 3 of BC's games have been against 3A competition and their schedule is about 3/4ths 3A. Only one of the schools(Bethany) they play round robin could be considered a "metro" school. It is also the only other 4A school on the schedule unless they catch a 4A in one of their tournaments which I think is unlikely. These high schools represent rural areas, not close enough to be considered suburban for the most part.

skan72
12-14-2010, 03:56 PM
You can't handle this--
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1142.snc4/148451_527866101705_176401541_30825419_3201917_n.j pg


You're talking about the cheerleader not being able to handle "this" right?

Birddog
12-18-2010, 04:10 AM
Spangler dropped 45 in a 70/59 BC win over Lexington last night.

ZagMan in Philly
12-18-2010, 04:28 AM
Wow...he can flat out score, regardless of the competition, that is impressive.

Gin N GUice
12-18-2010, 04:43 AM
I like this guy, alot!

thespywhozaggedme
12-18-2010, 08:18 AM
Spangler dropped 45 in a 70/59 BC win over Lexington last night.

WOW....what Philly said.

Birddog
12-18-2010, 09:52 AM
The 45 pt effort raised his season avg to 34.8. I can't find other stats and they probably won't post until Monday. Don't get overly excited just yet. These are small schools, and it could be a case of a 6'8" D1 kid just overwhelming the smaller competition. I'm hoping to go see a game in early January against their only 4A opponent. That should be a little more telling about his skills. He probably won't really be tested until the district playoffs start prior to State. Still, 45 is as lot of points, and he usually has rebound numbers to match.

MickMick
12-18-2010, 10:01 AM
David Pendergraft played against small schools and translated to D1 well.

Spangler is doing what you would expect and that is a good thing. Who wouldn't take another Pendergraft on the team?

NEC26
12-18-2010, 10:04 AM
David Pendergraft played against small schools and translated to D1 well.

Spangler is doing what you would expect and that is a good thing. Who wouldn't take another Pendergraft on the team?

And the upside is Spangler is taller. I think Pendo would have been much more effective with a few more inches.

ZagNative
12-18-2010, 10:35 AM
I discovered belatedly that Bridge Creek's box scores can be found here (http://www.okrankings.com/TeamPage.asp?sID=&t=14979&op=). They don't have the Lexington game up yet.

Rankings for all Oklahoma basketball players can be found AT NewsOk (http://www.newsok.com/cgi-bin/basketballstats/PlayerTotPoints.pl?Report=PlayerTotPoints.pl&Sort=TotPoints&Class=&Order=Desc).

Ryan is ranked #2 in points and #2 in rebounds, depending on how you sort the list.

Through the game before Lexington, his stat line looks like the following:


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/ZagNative/Screenprints/2010-12-14RyanSpanglerstats.jpg

Those rebounding numbers are insane, and after adding 45 pts. for Lexington last night, his ppg =35.

NEC26
12-18-2010, 10:46 AM
I am crossing my fingers and hope, hope, hoping Spangler will be a Jon Brockman type player. I can dream can't I ? :drool:

ZagNative
12-18-2010, 10:52 AM
I am crossing my fingers and hope, hope, hoping Spangler will be a Jon Brockman type player. I can dream can't I ? :drool:Looks like Ryan's on track to match Brockman's FT %, per Statsheet (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/washington/jon-brockman). :)

NEC26
12-18-2010, 11:00 AM
Looks like Ryan's on track to match Brockman's FT %, per Statsheet (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/washington/jon-brockman). :)

Yeah that was the one weakness in his game for sure but his toughness and rebounding were terrific( even though his offense was a bit limited). I would imagine most of Spangler's offense is off offensive rebounds(much like Brockman). We'll get to see soon enough I guess. Love getting to hear about our recruits like this!

ZagNative
12-18-2010, 11:18 AM
BTW, Chris Sarbaugh was leading scorer for G-Prep yesterday with 15 points in Prep's 51-50 win over NC, per this game report from the SR (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/dec/17/gonzaga-prep-boys-edge-north-central/?print-friendly).

It also looks to me from reading the game report that he was instrumental in setting up the game-winning free-throw:

G-Prep senior Chris Sarbaugh drove and jumped in the air, finding Bracey underneath where he was fouled in the act of shooting with 3.4 seconds remaining.

cggonzaga
12-18-2010, 11:58 AM
The 45 pt effort raised his season avg to 34.8. I can't find other stats and they probably won't post until Monday. Don't get overly excited just yet. These are small schools, and it could be a case of a 6'8" D1 kid just overwhelming the smaller competition. I'm hoping to go see a game in early January against their only 4A opponent. That should be a little more telling about his skills. He probably won't really be tested until the district playoffs start prior to State. Still, 45 is as lot of points, and he usually has rebound numbers to match.


While I agree with this I still think its a mighty impressive scoring average regardless of competition. I've seen plenty of D1 players play in small classifications and not average those kinds of points. The thing that impresses me most is that he's accounting for over 50% of his team's points. You know he's got to be getting double and triple teamed every time he has the ball.

Re: Sarbaugh

You can't measure Chris by his scoring average. He is a "do everything" kind of player. His intangibles are off the chart.

BobZag
12-18-2010, 12:09 PM
Is Bridge Creek as big as Brewster or Chelan or, say, Ritzville? Just trying to find a similar sized school here.

ZagNative
12-18-2010, 12:24 PM
Anyone have a link to detailed stats for G-Prep? I think they used to have them on the G-Prep BB site (http://www.gonzaga74.com/Basketball%202010/Boys%20Home%20Page.htm) last year, but I haven't found them this year.

Birddog
12-18-2010, 12:35 PM
Last year, BC had an avg daily attendance of 379 which made them last in for class 4A this year. OK takes the top 32 as 6A, the next 32 as 5A, then the next 64 are 4A, next 64 are 3A, then the rest are divided by three to become 2A, A, and B.
They probably have about 400 students, but most of their games this year are against 3A schools which are for the most part 350 and under.