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BobZag
03-09-2010, 05:28 PM
Post links to projected brackets and/or what you might hear analysts saying on the radio or TV.

I'll start with Lunardi. He has GU as his top 7 seed in OKC.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Things will change day to day, so keep things updated on here.

75Zag
03-09-2010, 05:48 PM
http://popup.lala.com/popup/1945836579461300618

Go Bulldogs! Get Bigger!

gozags09
03-09-2010, 06:22 PM
"Bracketography" also has the Zags as a 7 in Milwaukee, taking on another Big East team, Louisville...winner gets Purdue

http://www.bracketography.com/

75Zag
03-09-2010, 06:25 PM
Milwaukee, huh?

http://popup.lala.com/popup/432627047858503566

Bracketology101 has GU as a 7 in Buffalo. Now that is a hell of long trip, even for a die hard fan like me.

http://popup.lala.com/popup/504684650657419404

Go Bulldogs! Get Bigger!

Kong-Kool-Aid
03-09-2010, 06:39 PM
Yep, Right now Bracketology 101 has us in Buffalo laying ODU with a potential second round match up with West Virginia.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_OxkZF8Xm-iI/S5XiAyrMpHI/AAAAAAAABno/4NFzU4kBJJQ/s1600-h/B101_20100309.jpg

MickMick
03-09-2010, 06:39 PM
What were the Zags seeded in their most successful post season campaigns?

Were they a 10 in the elite eight run? What was their seed when they played the double overtime thriller against #1 seed Arizona?

Did those teams "suck" too?

Sarenyon
03-09-2010, 06:42 PM
MM, I think it was a 9 seed against Zona, though it could've been an 8.

gozags09
03-09-2010, 07:05 PM
Zags were a 9 in 03 (beat the 8 seed...Cincinnati)

MickMick
03-09-2010, 07:40 PM
I'm tellin ya.....it's gonna be Old Dominion. A very tough team.

btzag
03-09-2010, 07:45 PM
Of the five most accurate bracket prediction sites out there three have Gonzaga as a 6 seed and the other two have them as a 7.

My hope is the committee uses the eye test and rewards GU for traveling all over the country to get their top wins, while a team like Maryland or Xavier or Richmond basically racked their big wins up in conference, most on their home floor. Oh well, either way Sunday should be a fun day!

caduceus
03-09-2010, 08:22 PM
The Bracket Project (http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix_2010.htm) has a matrix of all the bracketology sites (about 80 in all) and their respective seeding predictions.

The consensus is a 6 seed at the moment.

=caduceus=

caduceus
03-09-2010, 08:29 PM
What were the Zags seeded in their most successful post season campaigns?

Were they a 10 in the elite eight run? What was their seed when they played the double overtime thriller against #1 seed Arizona?

Did those teams "suck" too?

2008-2009
Sweet Sixteen #4 Gonzaga 77, #1 North Carolina 98
Round 2 #12 Western Kentucky 81, #4 Gonzaga 83
Round 1 #13 Akron 64, #4 Gonzaga 77

2007-2008
Round 1 #10 Davidson 82, #7 Gonzaga 76

2006-2007
Round 1 #10 Gonzaga 57, #7 Indiana 70

2005-2006
Sweet Sixteen #3 Gonzaga 71, #2 UCLA 73
Round 2 #6 Indiana 80, #3 Gonzaga 90
Round 1 #14 Xavier 75, #3 Gonzaga 79

2004-2005
Round 2 #6 Texas Tech 71, #3 Gonzaga 69
Round 1 #14 Winthrop 64, #3 Gonzaga 74

2003-2004
Round 2 #10 Nevada 91, #2 Gonzaga 72
Round 1 #15 Valparaiso 49, #2 Gonzaga 76

2002-2003
Round 2 #9 Gonzaga 95, #1 Arizona 96 (OT)
Round 1 #9 Gonzaga 74, #8 Cincinnati 69

2001-2002
Round 1 #11 Wyoming 73, #6 Gonzaga 66

2000-2001
Sweet Sixteen #12 Gonzaga 62, #1 Michigan State 77
Round 2 #13 Indiana State 68, #12 Gonzaga 85
Round 1 #12 Gonzaga 86, #5 Virginia 85

1999-2000
Sweet Sixteen #10 Gonzaga 66, #6 Purdue 75
Round 2 #10 Gonzaga 82, #2 St. John's 76
Round 1 #10 Gonzaga 77, #7 Louisville 66

1998-1999
Elite 8 #10 Gonzaga 62, #1 Connecticut 67
Sweet Sixteen #10 Gonzaga 73, #6 Florida 72
Round 2 #10 Gonzaga 82, #2 Stanford 74
Round 1 #10 Gonzaga 75, #7 Minnesota 63

1994-1995
Round 1 Gonzaga 63, Maryland 87

Zagatak
03-09-2010, 08:31 PM
As i said in another thread... Zags a 6 seed in San Jose

willandi
03-10-2010, 06:09 AM
it would never happen, but if the Zags are placed far back east, in a lower seeds backyard (ala Davidson) I would like them to stand up and say that it not only isn't fair, but it isn't right, and the ncaa needs a re-do. Getting a local judge to put an injunction on the Spokane Arena games could be a striking point too, at least until they sat up and took notice. Barring that, have any team "just say no", that due to the inequity in seeding and location, we are withdrawing our participation. As I said, it will never happen, but just once would get the committees attention.

We should't be shipped to Buffalo, and have East Coast teams shipped out west so that conferences with 8 seeds don't have to play each other. Get a smaller conference and play every body, home and home, so we actually know how good you are or aren't, then let the seeds fall where they may.

End of diatribe

ZagMan in Philly
03-10-2010, 06:49 AM
Ship out to Providence (yikes) as a 6th seed playing 11th seed Cal, and potential next game against Pitts (which i like). Hard to believe they would put two west coast teams to the East playing each other in the first round, but then, they have done crazy things to us.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/310663/20100310Bracket.html

http://www.bloggingthebracket.com/

DixieZag
03-10-2010, 08:06 AM
Love Lunardi's latest, 7 seed going against Marquette, possible 2d round with K-State. I would take that and run as fast as I can. Teams like ODU, UNLV, Utah State scare me.

Martin Centre Mad Man
03-10-2010, 08:14 AM
Love Lunardi's latest, 7 seed going against Marquette, possible 2d round with K-State. I would take that and run as fast as I can. Teams like ODU, UNLV, Utah State scare me.

The only team in this tourney that scares me is Gonzaga. If they play with the same 40 minutes of competitive fire that they showed against Cincy, MSU, and Wisconsin, they can beat anybody but the Top half dozen teams in the country. If they play like they did in the losses to Duke, Wake, USF, and LMU, they will lose to anybody seeded above the 15 line.

75Zag
03-10-2010, 08:24 AM
If GU gets shipped to Providence (God Forbid!!!!!) there is a silver lining for those of us crazy enough to make that trip. There is a place called the Nordic Lodge outside Providence which has a seafood buffet that is the best in the universe. About $75 per person (last time I was there for "work" (wink, wink)) for ALL THE LOBSTER YOU CAN EAT plus some great other things. When I leave the Nordic Lodge I feel like Homer Simpson, but without his classic restraint.

Assuming there is a God and there is a Heaven, the Nordic Lodge Seafood Buffet will be waiting there for all of us.

But I would rather eat at a Denny's in San Jose then go to the East Coast.

Go Bulldogs! Get Bigger!

Reborn
03-10-2010, 08:36 AM
Zags are a 7 seed on both ESPN Bracketology with Joe Lunardi and Bracketology 101 which I like. Both bracketologies have Gonzaga playing Kansas St (#2 seed) if we win. Lunardi has us playing Marquette and 101 has us playing Old Dominon in the first round.

I have always liked the 7/10 game. They are my favorite pairings and I always keep an eye on these teams. This is a good path to the Elite 8 because we would play a #2 seed and not a #1. I also feel now that it's going to be a good place for Gonzaga. We will be back in the underdog role, and I think that's the best place for this team. Maybe being underdogs will ignite that inner fire again and we'll return playing with passion.

I am quite hopeful this morning.

BobZag
03-10-2010, 08:50 AM
A 6 seed is my wish.

Where's Barbara Eden when youi need her?

americasteam
03-10-2010, 09:03 AM
Hey, I found a positive, hopeful thread on Gonzaga!!! I'm feeling much better now :)

Seems to me, the 'Gonzaga Way' has been to be the underdog. When we're the top dog and then lose....we fall way too hard and everybody gets too down. I like being hopeful..... it's a lot more fun.

It's no fun hanging with the "Debbie Downers" in the crowd.

Thanks goes to DixieZag and Reborn!!!

ZagLawGrad
03-10-2010, 09:03 AM
I'll take a 6 seed happily

maineblackbear
03-10-2010, 09:10 AM
ahhhh, barbara eden. -- the genie you could rub and she would call you 'master'--(but the network wouldn't let you see her bellybutton :-)

anyway-- i am boston--bring on that Providence game--7pm eastern next friday--be way too much to hope for!

as a seven v. ten seed UW. in Providence. yup. thats what i'm hoping for. (If UW beats ASU, they are in--i think thats a play-in game for the tournament--Cal 'should' win pac-10--but the conference is so messed up this year it could be almost anyone--weird year-though those 3 teams seemed to have separated themselves from the pac.)

NovaZag
03-10-2010, 09:44 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_glockner/03/10/bracket.watch.wednesday/index.html

Glockner has us in the 8/9 vs. ODU. West VA in 2nd Round.

BobZag
03-10-2010, 09:50 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_glockner/03/10/bracket.watch.wednesday/index.html

Glockner has us in the 8/9 vs. ODU. West VA in 2nd Round.

He has WVU as a 1 seed? That's highly doubtful.

Reborn
03-10-2010, 09:51 AM
He also has Mich St as a 6 seed.

DixieZag
03-10-2010, 09:55 AM
I wonder where the ODU fetish is coming from? Nice way to out one small conference team? Ala Davidson v. Gonzaga?

lothar98zag
03-10-2010, 10:13 AM
Basically, right now GU could go to any of the 7 non-Spokane sites & I think we'll see all possible projections as the week proceeds.

This is what my research tells me:

GU's seed could be a 6-8 seed. (actually 6-9, but the only diff between a 8&9 is the jersey color, so let's ignore that) 6-8s are tied to the location the committee decides is best for the 1-3 seeds in each pod. Based on the geography of the teams in contention for a 1-4 seed, it's basically a given that 3 of the 4 - 4/5/12/13 pods will be shipped out west (2 to Spokane & 1 to San Jose). Also based on the same geography, the 2nd San Jose pod is basically going to be New Mexico's group (currently a 3 seed, but could be 2 or 4).

So if GU is going to go to San Jose, they better hope they line up w/ NM's seed - 3&6 or 2&7 AND the committee doesn't have to move GU elsewhere due to a minor bracket balancing rule. Otherwise, GU will be one of the teams that is placed randomly at the end of the process to fill in any holes and sent anywhere but the west coast.

Also regarding St Mary's & Spokane - the fact that two 4/5/12/13 groups are coming (not officially, it just works out that way this year) pretty much eliminates SMC (likely a 9-11) from coming up north again. Unless the committee really thinks SMC is worse than an 11 seed...I don't see how they honestly could do that. What a 9-11 seed range for SMC also means is that they could be placed in San Jose as an 11. A 10 seed in a #2 NM pod could also work in San Jose, but there's almost no way 9 seed goes to SJ this year.

Hope that makes sense...

lothar98zag
03-10-2010, 10:16 AM
I wonder where the ODU fetish is coming from? Nice way to out one small conference team? Ala Davidson v. Gonzaga?
nobody will come out and say it on the open, but yes many people have taken it that way based on what the committee has been doing the past few years. Although they can hide behind the rules (teams from the same conf must be spread out, BYU doesn't play on Sun, etc) so it likely could never be proven.

lothar98zag
03-11-2010, 01:27 PM
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix_2010.htm
GU currently lines up as the last 6 seed based on 79 recent brackets.

primal23
03-11-2010, 01:42 PM
nobody will come out and say it on the open, but yes many people have taken it that way based on what the committee has been doing the past few years. Although they can hide behind the rules (teams from the same conf must be spread out, BYU doesn't play on Sun, etc) so it likely could never be proven.

The BYU no on Sunday bugs me. I know its a religious thing, and I have no problem with them not wanting to play on the day of rest, but if you are going to play the game, play the game, and if you end up in the Sunday game, tough. There are some players in football who are Mormon and they still play in the NFL. It just seems like there are other teams that could be forced to go to who knows where and far because they HAD to be seeded in the Fri/Sun bracket because of one team.

Please don't read this as an attack on Mormon's or religion because that is not my intent.

ellenvega
03-11-2010, 01:57 PM
I'm hoping for a 6 seed. I've always liked the 6-3 pairings, keeps you away from the #1's for as long as possible.

The 8-9 game would be the second worst scenerio. The 7 seed,... meh.

alaskazagnut
03-11-2010, 02:16 PM
They are not the 3 pt shooting team we need to avoid at all costs. .316 for the year. We are quite better than they are at .363 and we match up pretty good down low with David Lee and Frank Hassel IMO.

I think this would be a very entertaining and good game, but we win by 12.

BobZag
03-11-2010, 02:32 PM
No matter what team the Zags are paired with, you can bet it'll be a tough one. It's that way for every team, except for #1s in Round One.

But yes, if the team gets a 6, I'll be happy...but honestly, the matchups are more important. A 6 seed with good matchups! :)

BlueVoodoo07
03-11-2010, 02:41 PM
For some reason I just see a match up with Texas coming.

TexasZagFan
03-11-2010, 02:54 PM
If the Zags are placed in OKC, I'm really going to be upset. It's only a 3 hour drive from my house, but I'll be in &*^%^& Southern CA next week!!! :argh:

lothar98zag
03-11-2010, 03:21 PM
If the Zags are placed in OKC, I'm really going to be upset. It's only a 3 hour drive from my house, but I'll be in &*^%^& Southern CA next week!!! :argh:
It could happen, but IMHO, it's not the most likely spot.

This is how I see the location odds for GU:

Spokane - 0%
Providence - 25%
The other 6 sites - 12.5% each

(although if I was going to separate the "others" a bit, I'd probably slightly increase the odds for New Orleans.)

lothar98zag
03-11-2010, 03:31 PM
It could happen, but IMHO, it's not the most likely spot.

This is how I see the location odds for GU:

Spokane - 0%
Providence - 25%
The other 6 sites - 12.5% each

(although if I was going to separate the "others" a bit, I'd probably slightly increase the odds for New Orleans.)
this is based on:
GU being 50/50 for a 6 or 7 (i.e. 2pod or 3pod)
Spokane being a lock for 2 4pods
Providence being very unlikely to get a 1pod or a 4pod (i.e. getting 2 pods from the 8 2&3 pods)
& the other 6 sites getting 1 2or3 & 1 1or4 pod

Of course this is all very rough & things change by the minute, so take this all with a bucket of salt.

ZagAddict
03-11-2010, 08:57 PM
For some reason I just see a match up with Texas coming.

+1... I have the same feeling. I feel a match between the Zags and Longhorns coming... possibly in Miliwaukee as an 8/9 matchup.

I could also see Florida or UTEP being opponents at this point too.

webspinnre
03-12-2010, 06:20 AM
Why do so many people have us as an 8 seed? Do you honestly not think we're one of the top 28 teams in the country? Out of 80 projected brackets linked above, only 6 have them as an 8 (and 1 as a 9 and 1 as a 10). I just don't see any way we're below a 7.

Reborn
03-12-2010, 08:16 AM
It looks like Gonzaga is going up against Richmond and Texas A&M for the 6th seed. I think these 3 teams are pretty close right now. Richmond plays UMASS tonight who they beat in overtime earller in the year, and Texas A&M plays Kansas tonight. I"d say A&M loses. A Richmond loss tonight would be good for Gonzaga I think. I think we're still in contention for a 6 seed.

What has been interesting this year has been how many teams have lost early in their conference tournaments. Over and over again I hear from the analysts how this helps them. Yet, I just don't hear any talk how GU losing to St. Mary's could have helped us. We seem to have been penalized the most for losing to a team we had beaten twice already. The pundits all seem to be talking about how difficullt it is to beat a team 3 times. Yet, when it's GU who loses to a team they had beaten twice they are penalzed more severely than other teams. Hey! St. Mary's is a good team this year, and the fact that we beat them twice, including beating them on their home court just has not seemed to make a difference in early bracketolies. I hope the Selecion Committee can see how Gonzaga deserves a 6 seed in the West. I would love to see a 6 vs 3 second round match up against New Mexico to see who is the best in the West.

mdZag23
03-12-2010, 08:22 AM
The thing that bothers me with the seedings most are talking about is running into a Big East Team that early in the tournament!

I just think we have a really tough time beating 6 or 7 or those teams. They play MEAN basketball and REBOUND relentlessly. Both of which create a ton of problems for us and quite frankly, I don't think this team can handle as a TEAM.

B-hamZag
03-12-2010, 09:05 AM
I like this one if we get a seven seed. This is jerry palms on cbs

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/13044283/projecting-the-field-a-day-of-conference-implosion?tag=headlines;collegebasketball

lothar98zag
03-12-2010, 12:14 PM
I like this one if we get a seven seed. This is jerry palms on cbs

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/13044283/projecting-the-field-a-day-of-conference-implosion?tag=headlines;collegebasketball
That's ok. & so is this one - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_glockner/03/12/bracket.watch/index.html

Bogozags
03-12-2010, 12:40 PM
I have charted Joe Lunardi’s bracketology these last three days attempting to understand the madness of it all. Well, GU was and still is a 7 seed in the exact same spot on the S-Curve (#27) over all. On Wednesday, Missouri was the top 7 seed (#25), they lost their first game of the B12 tourney. I figured that OKSU (#26) would move up to fill the position vacated by Missouri. Wrong! CAL, which was an 8 seed (#31) moved up to fill the void left by Missouri BUT they had not yet played a game in the PAC10 tourney. Needless to say I was confused (and sometimes it doesn’t take a lot for that to happen...lol), I must be missing something. Well here is another, Clemson was a 9 seed (#34) and they didn’t play until yesterday BUT they moved up to an 8 seed (#32). There are many more moves that are just as confusing. Last night Texas lost, they were a 7 seed (#28) and they lost last night to Baylor that was a 4 seed (#15) and they moved up five spots to a 3 seed (#10). Ok, back to Texas, they lost and moved up on the S-Curve but remained on the 7 seed line (#25), while CAL, who won moved down on the S-Curve (#25). Mean while back at the ranch, Notre Dame started as a 12 seed, moved to a 9 seed (#34) filling Clemson’s void and now is a 7 seed (#25) filling OKSU void. I am sure all of you are still on the same page with me so let me go just a little further.

This morning, Syracuse lost their first game and didn’t move, still a number 1 seed (#3). Purdue began as the #1 two seed (#5) and had not played a game in their tourney BUT they move down the S-Curve (#8). WVU also a 2 seed (#7) moved past KSU to the top 2 seed (#5). Mind you WVU won on a last second shot over Cincinnati, while KSU beat OKSU by 20+ and at one point they were over 30+ ahead. OSU, which wins by one over a poor Michigan team, moves up on the 2 seed line from #8 too #7.

Ok, there are a few more examples but by now you are saying, “I have too much time on my hands!” Well, that isn’t exactly true but anyway, this is so confusing. This cannot be done “manually” but rather has to have some sort of computer program to figure all this stuff out. I wonder how they filled the brackets back in 1990, without all the programs they have now?

Oh, almost forgot, I started this just to see how GU would move up the S-Curve as they cannot lose any more games; therefore, they should only move up the line so to speak. The movement is all around them and they have not moved one iota. Butler had not played since Tuesday but they moved up eight spots on the S-Curve this morning?????

If Lunardi is “spot on” then bracketology is the REAL March Madness.

willandi
03-12-2010, 06:14 PM
Based on the Bleacher Report bracket, the Zags are the top #7 seed, Texas is the last #6 seed and three of the #5 seeds lost today. We will probably drop to an 8 or a 9 based on this.:lmao: :lmao:


Meant as humor...I am still as confused as ever.