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LynetteG
04-30-2007, 08:42 PM
Who are you picking?

HARD SPUN for me! Close 2nds are Street Sense and Scat Daddy.

Cannot see Curlin and several others.


Btw, here is a video of Barbaro's newest full brother (same mom and dad), he was born on April 19th and is a week old in this video:
http://www.heraldleaderphoto.com/multimedia/barbaros/brother.html

Also, he has a yearling (1 year old) FULL brother who was just named Nicanor (pronounced Nick ah nor). Here are some pictures of Nicanor, the new baby from the video and their mom.

http://www.millridge.com/barbaro.asp

THe Jacksons are breeding LaVille Rouge (mom) again to Dynaformer (dad) in hopes of getting a full sister to carry on the line.

HillBillyZag
04-30-2007, 11:08 PM
Hey, Good Catholic boy like me I just have to go with "Dominican"!

jbslicer
05-01-2007, 04:49 PM
Click on Listen to MIDI
http://www.50states.com/songs/kentucky.htm

I attended the 1985 Derby. Pretty neat event.
Spend a Buck was the winner.

RenoZag
05-01-2007, 06:34 PM
I was liking Hard Spun a lot more before that exercise rider took him out for a 5F spin at :57 3/5ths yesterday. . .

Might take a flyer on Any Given Saturday if he's a nice price. . .Sam P is a steady grinder who might hit the board at long odds. . .Zanjero is another live longshot.

If I gotta pick one: Street Sense.

Good luck to you horseplayers out there !

LynetteG
05-01-2007, 07:38 PM
Reno,

Hard Spun is locked and ready to go! WOW! Check this out, Jeanine Edwards (from ESPN) said this about him today:

"A fairly productive morning at Churchill. Hard Spun is jumping out of his skin! Cindy and Larry Jones both said they thought he was on top of his game before the Lane's End, but they said believe it or not, he's doing 10 times better now! They're very excited. We're still waiting to hear if Cobalt Blue is running.... We told Doug O'Neill to please run him, as we just shot a lengthy interview with Cobalt's owner, Merv Griffin, for a major feature we are putting together. We should know something soon. Street Sense also looked phenomenal.... couldn't be doing any better."

Btw, Cobalt Blue is out. Teuflesberg is in. Also Xchanger is out, Imawildandcrazyguy is in.

Street Sense worked this AM, 5/8ths in 1:01. NICE!

RenoZag
05-02-2007, 02:52 PM
133RD KENTUCKY DERBY

PP HORSE TRAINER JOCKEY ODDS
1 SEDGEFIELD Darrin Miller Julien Leparoux 50-1
2 CURLIN Steve Asmussen Robby Albarado 7-2
3 ZANJERO Steve Asmussen Shaun Bridgmohan 30-1
4 STORM IN MAY Bill Kaplan Juan Leyva 30-1
5 IMAWILDANDCRAZYGUY Bill Kaplan Mark Guidry 50-1
6 COWTOWN CAT Todd Pletcher Fernando Jara 20-1
7 STREET SENSE Carl Nafzger Calvin Borel 4-1
8 HARD SPUN Larry Jones Mario Pino 15-1
9 LIQUIDITY Doug O'Neill David Flores 30-1
10 TEUFLESBERG Jamie Sanders Stewart Elliott 30-1
11 BWANA BULL Jerry Hollendorfer Javier Castellano 50-1
12 NOBIZ LIKE SHOBIZ Barclay Tagg Cornelio Velasquez 8-1
13 SAM P. Todd Pletcher Ramon Dominguez 20-1
14 SCAT DADDY Todd Pletcher Edgar Prado 10-1
15 TIAGO John Shirreffs Mike Smith 15-1
16 CIRCULAR QUAY Todd Pletcher John Velazquez 8-1
17 STORMELLO Bill Currin Kent Desormeaux 30-1
18 ANY GIVEN SATURDAY Todd Pletcher Garrett Gomez 12-1
19 DOMINICAN Darrin Miller Rafael Bejarano 20-1
20 GREAT HUNTER Doug O'Neill Corey Nakatani 15-1

LynetteG
05-02-2007, 03:11 PM
Hard Spun in PP8 like Barbaro last year... it's destiny! :)

RenoZag
05-02-2007, 08:30 PM
Hard Spun in PP8 like Barbaro last year... it's destiny! :)

Let's hope he doesn't stumble coming out of the gate like Barbaro did last year. . .

Does Cowtown Cat have a prayer ( as an underlay ? )

LynetteG
05-03-2007, 10:01 AM
Let's hope he doesn't stumble coming out of the gate like Barbaro did last year. . .

Does Cowtown Cat have a prayer ( as an underlay ? )

well, Barbaro still won, and by the biggest margin in 40 years, so the stumble was ok in that instance.

Cowtown Cat will probably not be overlaid or an underlaid. I expect him to go off at about his ML odds of 20/1. MHO. No way we get 15/1 on Hard Spun, he'll be bet down some. Anything 10/1 or above on Hard Spun and I am jumping on that train majorly.

RenoZag
05-03-2007, 07:40 PM
Curlin Co-Owners in Dispute With Diet Drug Plaintiffs
by The Associated Press
Date Posted: 5/3/2007 7:38:12 PM
Last Updated: 5/3/2007 7:38:12 PM

By BRUCE SCHREINER
Associated Press Writer

Without putting down a bet, more than 400 people believe they have a financial stake in how Kentucky Derby favorite Curlin performs in Saturday's race.

The group alleges that two of Curlin's owners, attorneys William Gallion and Shirley Cunningham Jr., pocketed millions that plaintiffs were due as part of a $200 million settlement over the diet drug fen-phen.

As plaintiff W.L. Carter sees it, money that should have gone to care for one-time fen-phen users went instead to the attorneys, who purchased the strapping chestnut colt.

"My name may not be on the bill of sale, but I feel like I helped pay for that sucker," Carter, of Lawrenceburg, said Thursday.

A judge in northern Kentucky ruled that Gallion, Cunningham and another lawyer breached their duty to clients, who claimed the attorneys paid themselves an extra $64 million from the 2001 settlement. The plaintiffs had sued the drug maker American Home Products, claiming the diet drug caused health problems. They ended up with $74 million.

The three lawyers denied wrongdoing in response to being sued by ex-clients, but have been temporarily suspended from practicing law.

Gallion and Cunningham's Midnight Cry Stable, which bought Curlin for $57,000 as a yearling, sold controlling interest in the horse in February for $3.5 million to a group that includes California vintner Jess Jackson. Midnight Cry Stable retained a minority share in the horse.

Gallion said he hadn't given any thought to whether future legal developments could claim his potential Derby profits.

"Those are two separate issues," he said in a telephone interview. "This whole thing is about the horse, it's not about me."

The plaintiffs are awaiting a ruling by a judge on the amount the attorneys will have to pay them.

Jacquelyn McMurtry, a plaintiff represented by Cunningham, said she was angered by the revelation but had high hopes for the horse.

"I do hope that the horse wins and that we could get money from it," McMurtry said. "I do think that it's brazen of these people to spend our money."

Curlin didn't compete as a 2-year-old but has won all three of his career races by a combined 28 lengths, including a record 10 1/2-length victory in the Arkansas Derby (gr. II) last month.

The colt, already with more than $800,000 in winnings, would skyrocket in value as a Derby champion. This year's winner will collect a $1.45 million purse -- with more possible for a runaway win. Fast-food company Yum Brands Inc. has offered a $1 million bonus for a victory by more than 6 1/2 lengths -- the margin of Barbaro's Derby win last year. Curlin also would command high stud fees once his racing days are over.

Gallion said he hoped to be in the winner's circle with other owners if Curlin wins. Asked about having a Derby favorite, he replied, "It's exciting -- everybody's lifetime dream come true."

Carter, one of the plaintiffs, said it would be upsetting to see Gallion and Cunningham in the winner's circle.

Still, he'll tell friends at a Derby party Saturday that he considers himself a stakeholder in the horse and will be cheering him on.

"If it wins, it may help us recover part of what's owed us," he said.

RenoZag
05-04-2007, 05:23 AM
Kentucky regulators have drawn blood from all 20 entrants in Saturday's Derby in order to test for the illegal use of blood-doping agents such as erythropoietin and darbepoietin, Kentucky state steward John Veitch said on Thursday.

Results from the tests will not be available until after the Derby is run, but Veitch said the testing was significant because the entire Derby field had never before been subject to the blood-doping test.

Veitch said the tests are "another tool to ensure integrity."

Blood-doping agents, which increase the number of oxygen-carrying red-blood cells, are illegal in every racing jurisdiction.

According to Veitch, the blood sample from each Derby horse was divided in two, with one sample being sent to the Kentucky Horse Racing Authority's drug-testing laboratory at Iowa State University. If the tests indicate the possible presence of the drug, the other sample will be sent to the University of Pennsylvania for confirmation.

Blood-doping agents are so-called Class 1 drugs and the use of the drugs carry the strictest penalties in racing.

If any of the entries flunks, they'll call Floyd Landis for advice :p

AND, ALL OF THE ENTRIES PASSED THEIR SCREENS:

All Derby Starters Cleared in EPO Testing
by The Associated Press
Date Posted: 5/5/2007 2:46:54 PM
Last Updated: 5/5/2007 2:46:54 PM

All 20 horses entered in Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I) were cleared by the state's racing authority after pre-race tests for performance-enhancing drugs.

"I believe it's the first time in the United States a race of this magnitude has had a full field tested for EPO," said John Veitch, chief steward for the Kentucky Horse Racing Authority and a former trainer.

The surprise screening for blood-doping agents such as erythropoietin, or EPO, and darbepoietin was conducted Wednesday.

Veitch said the decision to do pre-race testing was not motivated by suspicions of wrongdoing but to ensure enforcement of the state's medication rules.

"The tests are reasonably new, and it helps us maintain the integrity of the sport," Veitch said.

Blood-doping agents increase the number of oxygen-carrying red-blood cells, boosting endurance, and are illegal in every racing jurisdiction.

LynetteG
05-04-2007, 08:14 AM
Kentucky regulators have drawn blood from all 20 entrants in Saturday's Derby in order to test for the illegal use of blood-doping agents such as erythropoietin and darbepoietin, Kentucky state steward John Veitch said on Thursday.

Results from the tests will not be available until after the Derby is run, but Veitch said the testing was significant because the entire Derby field had never before been subject to the blood-doping test.

Veitch said the tests are "another tool to ensure integrity."

Blood-doping agents, which increase the number of oxygen-carrying red-blood cells, are illegal in every racing jurisdiction.

According to Veitch, the blood sample from each Derby horse was divided in two, with one sample being sent to the Kentucky Horse Racing Authority's drug-testing laboratory at Iowa State University. If the tests indicate the possible presence of the drug, the other sample will be sent to the University of Pennsylvania for confirmation.

Blood-doping agents are so-called Class 1 drugs and the use of the drugs carry the strictest penalties in racing.

If any of the entries flunks, they'll call Floyd Landis for advice :p

funny that A$$man's horse is in the drug scandal, since he is so well-known as a juicer. I feel sorry for the horse!

a13coach
05-04-2007, 08:55 AM
funny that A$$man's horse is in the drug scandal, since he is so well-known as a juicer. I feel sorry for the horse!

??? What? I do not see any reference to this person or his horse in RenoZag's post.

LynetteG
05-04-2007, 01:01 PM
I was referring to Curlin's trainer, Steve Assmusen, who was on a one year suspension for failing drug tests ("Curlin Co-Owners in Dispute With Diet Drug Plaintiffs").

Todd Pletcher, trainer of 5 of the entrants, is one also known to fail drug tests in the past.

LynetteG
05-05-2007, 02:42 PM
Who are you picking?

HARD SPUN for me! Close 2nds are Street Sense and Scat Daddy.



i gave you all the $102 exacta! :) Hard Spun ran super well, awesome 2nd! Congrats to Street Sense!

sittingon50
05-05-2007, 02:45 PM
Great race for the winner. Needed to have a little luck to make the trip along the rail, but the jock found room. Apparently that's his style. Congrats.

LynetteG
05-05-2007, 02:51 PM
yeah, i was shocked he was able to get up the rail. SUPER LUCKY! one of the announcers said 'its like the Red Sea parted', and that was about the truth of it!

BobZag
05-05-2007, 03:17 PM
That rail was fast all day, and that jockey did the exact same thing on a horse earlier in the day. I thought Hard Spun might get swallowed down the stretch but only Street Sense had any kind of finishing kick. Nobiz failed to even show up. I owe someone some pizza. ;) The Preakness should be real interesting, I expect a "rabbit" or two to be sent out to contest Hard Spun, setting things up for a finisher, like Street Sense again. If Curlin is in the Belmont, I like his chances. It won't be so crowded.

LynetteG
05-05-2007, 03:19 PM
make sure you post when we'll be at David's so others can come if they want ;)

upan8th
05-05-2007, 03:30 PM
Congrats LynetteG on the exacting the exacta. Hope you had a dime or two on it. By the by, haven't heard much about your horse after he broke his maiden. How's it going w/him (it is a colt isn't it?).

LynetteG
05-05-2007, 03:34 PM
he's good! he ran 4th last time and should run again this next weekend. he's super sweet and just had his actual 3rd birthday on sunday. he was born the same day as Barbaro, but a year later. thanks for asking!

RenoZag
05-05-2007, 03:40 PM
I was liking Hard Spun a lot more before that exercise rider took him out for a 5F spin at :57 3/5ths yesterday. . .

Might take a flyer on Any Given Saturday if he's a nice price. . .Sam P is a steady grinder who might hit the board at long odds. . .Zanjero is another live longshot.

If I gotta pick one: Street Sense.

Good luck to you horseplayers out there !

Happy to say it was a nice day at the ol' sportsbook. Thanks to Lynette for convincing me re: Hard Spun. Street Sense really had a third gear when he needed it. . .an amazing move by Borel

LynetteG
05-05-2007, 03:40 PM
you and me made a good team! :)