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BobZag
02-18-2010, 02:55 PM
If the Zags can't play hard enough on D and execute well enough on O to win this game, we'll know the guys didn't learn a thing from the previous loss.

Go Zags.

Xin Loi 67
02-18-2010, 04:08 PM
Bob, these are college guys. They get spanked they learn. There leadership won't let that happen again.

primal23
02-18-2010, 04:40 PM
Bob, these are college guys. They get spanked they learn. There leadership won't let that happen again.

Unless they are into the spanking thing, but that's a whole different can of worms. ;)

BobZag
02-18-2010, 04:54 PM
Unless they are into the spanking thing, but that's a whole different can of worms. ;)

Oh behave. :p

malmer7
02-18-2010, 04:55 PM
Bob, these are college guys. They get spanked they learn. There leadership won't let that happen again.

the very fact that their college guys means it CAN happen again. not saying it will, but it definitely can...

gamagin
02-18-2010, 05:05 PM
40 minutes of hard work lead to a relatively easy victory.

I'm hoping, too, that if there are any lapses in attention, they only last a few seconds, or points, instead of several minutes and many points.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 05:24 PM
In watching Syracuse... When they play good, look out, they look every bit as good as Kansas or Kentucky. Hope the Zags play that well on the road tonight and Saturday.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 05:30 PM
Pepperdine leading Portland by 3 with 7:00 to go in 1st-half.

Curious.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 05:54 PM
Portland up by 5 over Pepperdine at half.

zagirl2k
02-18-2010, 05:55 PM
Port 35 Pep 30 at the half

bballbeachbum
02-18-2010, 05:57 PM
ready set go!

rawkmandale
02-18-2010, 05:59 PM
Nice....no ESPN(2)(U)(whatever) game going long, or overtime, before the Zagcast.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 06:00 PM
Does anybody else's TV picture squash people down to 4' by 4'? Hah.

Virginia Zags Fan
02-18-2010, 06:03 PM
OK. Got my Kernkraft 400 by Zombie Nation going to get me into the Zags gametime mood. The Zags have had some good home cooking. However, sometimes at home you have relatives, friends, etc that want to come and say hi, bug you, etc. Then you get on the road, the first game on the road in a while, you are all rested. You are focused. You don't have to think about much besides dominating defense and GU basketball. I think they will come out strong.

bballbeachbum
02-18-2010, 06:03 PM
Hey Bball.

hey JohnnyG!

Cheers to all!

BobZag
02-18-2010, 06:10 PM
So far the guys are not matching LMU's energy. Crank it up, guys.

gamagin
02-18-2010, 06:11 PM
dozens of fans at the game . . .

BobZag
02-18-2010, 06:15 PM
Getting better.

Attack inside.

sittingon50
02-18-2010, 06:17 PM
What a great crowd!!

gamagin
02-18-2010, 06:20 PM
What a great crowd!!

wave. maybe the ripple.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 06:21 PM
That's my man Arop. :)

There always seems to be a ten point barrier in these away games. Zags get up by ten, then..................

Keep it going, fellers.

sittingon50
02-18-2010, 06:22 PM
Looked like Good just put his hand on Young's throat!

whatazag
02-18-2010, 06:23 PM
Ehlo just brutal to listen to so far.

Did I hear him say one of the LMU guys had junk is his trunk because he is from Queens?

whatazag
02-18-2010, 06:24 PM
Arop has a pretty shot.

gamagin
02-18-2010, 06:25 PM
Ehlo just brutal to listen to so far.

Did I hear him say one of the LMU guys had junk is his trunk because he is from Queens?

then he said manny wants to be known as "gisto."

anyone else heard that ?

BobZag
02-18-2010, 06:28 PM
WCC teams can only beat GU by barraging treys. Stick all over LMU's shooters.

bballbeachbum
02-18-2010, 06:28 PM
That's my man Arop. :)

There always seems to be a ten point barrier in these away games. Zags get up by ten, then..................

Keep it going, fellers.

see it too...like we try and score ten points a trip instead of just digging in harder on D...stops increase leads more than O

bballbeachbum
02-18-2010, 06:29 PM
just went zone out of TO, got burned

malmer7
02-18-2010, 06:29 PM
zag fans' "airball" chant has been the loudest the arena's been so far tonight. love it

gamagin
02-18-2010, 06:31 PM
averaging about 7 secs in the key

BobZag
02-18-2010, 06:33 PM
averaging about 7 secs in the key

Big shoes.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 06:37 PM
Pilots up 20 on Waves.

GU69
02-18-2010, 06:37 PM
The defense is a little soft. Too easy for LMU to get into the lane.

gamagin
02-18-2010, 06:37 PM
they've got two good players. I say we press em harder. Run em. Given em hell end-to-end every play. we have the horses. See what happens.

We did enough last game to build up their self esteem.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 06:39 PM
Zags D has gone totally south. Giving up over 60%. Blech.

malmer7
02-18-2010, 06:40 PM
Why do we NEVER listen to bob and guard the frigging 3 ball!!!

gamagin
02-18-2010, 06:43 PM
we're one and done, over and over. and they are hustling more, too, imo.

thankfully, they are also sloppy. but geez, we should be sharper than this

Virginia Zags Fan
02-18-2010, 06:50 PM
So much for my thoughts on them focusing and coming out hard. They look flat and lethargic. Especially Sacre and Harris. Why is it that GJ and MA are the only ones that have some hustle tonight?

BobZag
02-18-2010, 06:50 PM
All the Zags are taught to run into the paint, leaving open 3 shooters. I don't know, it looks like lemmings. Twos won't beat GU. Threes will, and have.

Oh well.

Up by 3 at half.

Crank up the D and it'll be game over. Come out just cruising again and LMU will build up confidence and momentum.

bballbeachbum
02-18-2010, 06:51 PM
winning by 20 means first winning by 1, 2, 3, 4.......15, 16, 17, 18, 19...then 20.

seems so elementary, but they show some youth on that understanding imo, playing with that expectation to crush opponents, not just beat them

rawkmandale
02-18-2010, 06:51 PM
Ick, but it could be worse:

Wisky is down 9 at halftime at Minnesota

WSU is down 18 at home to UCLA

GU69
02-18-2010, 06:53 PM
I'm counting on the coaches to amp it up for the second half.

The Zags are capable of playing a lot better than this.

Akzag
02-18-2010, 06:53 PM
whoops! we have a game today? and it is already half?

okay, I'm awake now ....

Xin Loi 67
02-18-2010, 06:55 PM
Few gves them a little spanking and they come out and run these guys until they lather up.

1973Zag
02-18-2010, 06:58 PM
After watching Syracuse/Georgetown, this looks like a high school game. Better step it up guys--play like you deserve a high seed in March

BobZag
02-18-2010, 06:59 PM
Unofficially, LMU has shot 50%. Zags have shot 41.7% overall and 55.6% from three. On O, Zags need to get the interior game going.

But first, dig in on D. Create easier O with stingy D.

Take LMU out of their comfort zone.

NovaZag
02-18-2010, 06:59 PM
Our big guys are slow to the ball. Missed some easy shots. They need to get focused.

Akzag
02-18-2010, 07:00 PM
caught the halftime "highlights" on the Deuce ... they called Olynyk by LMU's #13's name ...

okay ... shook it off ... I'm bringin' it in the second half ...

Let's do this

ID ZAGFAN
02-18-2010, 07:02 PM
6 of 7 FT's! :D

ID ZAGFAN

malmer7
02-18-2010, 07:03 PM
IF we don't turn it up a notch and if LMU plays just a little cleaner we're looking at a USF repeat here...
I missed halftime show, has anyone mentioned the possible throat grab by LMU coach???

malmer7
02-18-2010, 07:04 PM
Matt with 4 and Harris with 5 points. That is not normal.

Seemed like matt was completely invisible IMO

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:08 PM
Slopfest. Ugh. Hard to watch.

Matt is really struggling. Keep sawing wood, guys.

bballbeachbum
02-18-2010, 07:09 PM
like the full court pressure

gamagin
02-18-2010, 07:10 PM
jamming up the middle at both ends. getting more and more confident, too

GU69
02-18-2010, 07:11 PM
Somebody wake up.
Anybody.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:12 PM
Sacre and Harris, I've concluded, don't really have good "touch" inside. Batista had such a soft "touch."

So far, Zags are cruising for a bruising. Getting out-hustled. Crank it up, or else, Zaggies.

1973Zag
02-18-2010, 07:12 PM
RS and EH ???????????

gamagin
02-18-2010, 07:13 PM
fg in the last 13 attempts - Hudson

ZagAddict
02-18-2010, 07:14 PM
Seriously... much harder to watch than the USF game. Zags just beating themselves tonight.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:16 PM
Give LMU credit. They're forcing GU to shoot long jumpers.

Another trey given up. Wow.

gamagin
02-18-2010, 07:16 PM
we're in trouble

GU69
02-18-2010, 07:19 PM
Maybe try the JV because nothing is working as it is.

bballbeachbum
02-18-2010, 07:19 PM
just result so far

guys need to take a breath and slow down

if feeding the post, the pass has to be smart and on the money

bballbeachbum
02-18-2010, 07:19 PM
they are more aggressive.......

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:20 PM
Nah, Worry at the 5 minute mark.

May not matter at that point. Don't like what I am seeing. At all.

Hey, if all the plays were inbounds we would be winning.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:20 PM
Totally out-hustled and out-efforted. Disappointing, to be sure.

Calm down, dig in. Poise.

GU69
02-18-2010, 07:23 PM
Totally out-hustled and out-efforted.

Yup. Look good in the new unis though.

Virginia Zags Fan
02-18-2010, 07:23 PM
Gray goes up for the shot. Does Sacre bang the boards. Nope. Watches rebound go to LMU. Must be on vacation tonight. At least Will would hustle tonight.

gamagin
02-18-2010, 07:23 PM
Nah, Worry at the 5 minute mark.

what I said. Until . . .

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:24 PM
LMU still shooting at a 50% clip.

Zags at 37%.

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:24 PM
Teams like LMU beat teams like GU because they get hot, give extra hustle, etc. GU beats LMU in said form by: playing calm, making plays and getting into LMU's head.

gamagin
02-18-2010, 07:24 PM
& 4 t.o.'s

bballbeachbum
02-18-2010, 07:25 PM
big test now

RenoZag
02-18-2010, 07:25 PM
Had 2 work late. . .YIKES !

MyZags
02-18-2010, 07:26 PM
Thanks!

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:26 PM
Had 2 work late. . .YIKES !

Go back to work!!1 my eyes!

1973Zag
02-18-2010, 07:26 PM
Do our bigs know they are allowed to rebound? We are being handled by a .500 team.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:26 PM
I commend LMU's defensive coach. Zags O is struggling mightily.

gamagin
02-18-2010, 07:29 PM
standing under our basket. don;t even pretend to defend . just countin on keeping us out of the middle. and we're letting it happen. lotta hustle-luck going their way, too.

we just gotta get back to our game.

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:29 PM
Ok. Young's shot is a sign... not a good one. Didn't we see this before??

ZagAddict
02-18-2010, 07:29 PM
Wow... just can't get it together + every ball going LMU's way right now.

MedZag
02-18-2010, 07:29 PM
What the hell!

RenoZag
02-18-2010, 07:30 PM
Starting to smell like a court stormer. . .DAMN !

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:30 PM
No call on Harris?? Geez

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:30 PM
Few is forced to burn TOs just to prevent being run off the court.

malmer7
02-18-2010, 07:32 PM
"zags are not matching loyola's energy" - ehlo, master of the obvious huh.
This really is weak sauce, just no effort

Akzag
02-18-2010, 07:32 PM
Thanks!

try here (http://www.justin.tv/zags_basketball#r=eYe04es~) for game online


not sure you want to see it right now ...

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:32 PM
Matt airballs a trey. Ouch. Bad vibes all over this game.

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:32 PM
Holy crap.

What can Few do to get these guys going? :confused:

ZagAddict
02-18-2010, 07:33 PM
Airball 3 pointers from Bouldin... and now Goodson throwing up 3 pointers. Horrible shots tonight + nothing is falling in the interior from Sacre or Harris. Still a lot of time left, but it would take a huge turn around in the Zags effort tonight to pull this one out.

rawkmandale
02-18-2010, 07:33 PM
Cougs lose by 20 at home - ouch....

Birddog
02-18-2010, 07:33 PM
Bring in Foster for Sacre!

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:34 PM
The mirage of a 3 seed dissolve into 5 seed/maybe no Spokane territory. Who knows, that all might matter to us more than the guys. Looks that way anyway.

LynetteG
02-18-2010, 07:34 PM
I wasn;t worried about coming back until just now. WAKE UP ZAGSSS!!!!!!!

bballbeachbum
02-18-2010, 07:34 PM
on O, make some shots...they are there, but not finished...we're rattled

make shots

turn up the toughness meter a little

gamagin
02-18-2010, 07:35 PM
& the rest to take charge and take it back

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:36 PM
Did Matt eat more bad crabs? Ugh.

whatazag
02-18-2010, 07:36 PM
Getting outplayed, but I also think that the other WCC teams got the memo that the WCC refs love the underdog story and will allow our opponents to knock Zag players to the ground with no foul, but if we put a hand on a player it is a foul.

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:37 PM
You know. This has happened before. Few should make a wholesale change. 2 or 3 guys at once. Tell them to play loose and natural on offense and overplay, practically foul every guy on D. Whether LMU has the ball or not.

ZagAddict
02-18-2010, 07:37 PM
A lot a stake tonight for the Zags... a loss to another 200+ RPI team would be disasterous for their NCAA seed/location.

gamagin
02-18-2010, 07:37 PM
gotta foul out with all the calls . .

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:39 PM
FT bounces are going there way....

gamagin
02-18-2010, 07:40 PM
even make a layup

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:40 PM
Officially in the danger zone now.

Bol must be stronger w/the ball.

whatazag
02-18-2010, 07:41 PM
Damn, Kong has gone cold from 3. Used to be automatic on that shot.

RenoZag
02-18-2010, 07:41 PM
BK never met a trey opportunity he didn't like. . .

1973Zag
02-18-2010, 07:42 PM
MB just became MVP runner-up.

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:42 PM
Call a win Johnny!

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:42 PM
Zags shooting...........



32.7%.


Youch.

ZagAddict
02-18-2010, 07:44 PM
Bouldin... 1-10 from the field tonight. :confused:
Gray... 4-13 from field tonight. :(

I don't ever recall Bouldin shooting airballs and getting 5 seconds calls in the backcourt. :(

10 point lead with 4 minutes left for LMU... just a horrible night for the Zags. No one is exempt... a COMPLETE team loss.

whatazag
02-18-2010, 07:44 PM
I would recommend the Zags start playing some D

btzag
02-18-2010, 07:45 PM
Can't match their effort level...can't believe this is happening again!

Inexcusable.

Never seen Bouldin play this poorly against a bad team. Yes he has had some tough performances against great teams but not overmatched teams like LMU.

And the rest of the team is just bad tonight, all around. Like they all picked the same night to have a terrible game.

gamagin
02-18-2010, 07:46 PM
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and either make the shot or get the foul.

zag944
02-18-2010, 07:46 PM
getting really tired of the run into the key then throw a no-look pass to some one with a worse look. ugh

gamagin
02-18-2010, 07:48 PM
forcrissakes !

btzag
02-18-2010, 07:48 PM
When you can't hit an open shot as a team, you don't have a chance against a swarming frantic D like LMU. Unless we hit ALL our FT's down the stretch... Oh and play some D on the other end of the court.

ZagAddict
02-18-2010, 07:48 PM
:argh:

Bye bye:

3/4 seed in NCAA tournament
Spokane NCAA site - rounds 1/2
West Region in NCAA tournament

New Mexico and BYU are going to be very happy tonight.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:48 PM
You know, I honestly think this is what GU is this year. Losing Pargo, Daye, Heytvelt, Downs, it shows in these games. These guys play a clunker once in a while. Up and down. Last year's Zags were steadier, more consistent.

It looks like playing in Spokane is iffy, at best.

mkelsey2010
02-18-2010, 07:48 PM
Stop score stop! C'mon guys!

gamagin
02-18-2010, 07:49 PM
plenty of time. as long as we pull it together

btzag
02-18-2010, 07:49 PM
Not over yet.

Rattle them a couple more times and execute on offense and LMU could crumble.

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:50 PM
Matt! and a good moving screen/box out down low to make room for him.

LynetteG
02-18-2010, 07:51 PM
two threes and we have this. i can't believe we are struggling vs LMU

ZagAddict
02-18-2010, 07:52 PM
Still no defense... come on!

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:52 PM
Remember, the Lady Zags are on CBS College Sports at 8:00 PST tonight. It'll be better, trust me. :)

LynetteG
02-18-2010, 07:53 PM
i cant watch, i cant watch, i cant watch... OT please!!!!!!!!!

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:53 PM
Man, these guys are breaking my heart... must mean I love them right?

Akzag
02-18-2010, 07:53 PM
this isgoing OT (hopefully)

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:55 PM
Get this 2 second stop. Get down and get a good shot... 2 or 3, doesn't matter anything that's clean. Matt or Stephen can go at the hoop.

BobZag
02-18-2010, 07:55 PM
If the Zags can't play hard enough on D and execute well enough on O to win this game, we'll know the guys didn't learn a thing from the previous loss.

Go Zags.

Sadly.

Zags always have struggled in Gersten. Just something about it. Maybe the Ghost of Hank.

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:57 PM
You can't shoot in a second. What??

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 07:58 PM
what the heck... you can't shoot in a second. bring it up Heister??

btzag
02-18-2010, 07:58 PM
Stupid play by Gray. He should know that is the only way they could score in a second.

RenoZag
02-18-2010, 08:00 PM
Sadly.

Zags always have struggled in Gersten. Just something about it. Maybe the Ghost of Hank.

or the spirit of Matthew Knight

Akzag
02-18-2010, 08:01 PM
ball.game.

gamagin
02-18-2010, 08:02 PM
only HE can save us now

RenoZag
02-18-2010, 08:02 PM
Turn out the lights, the party's ovah. . .

Learn from it, Zags. . .can't just show up and get the "W"

U Zig, I Zag
02-18-2010, 08:03 PM
Question now is how they respond. Matt looked bad, team looked bad.

WTF?

Man oh man... :mad: :mad:

GU69
02-18-2010, 08:03 PM
ouch.

gamagin
02-18-2010, 08:03 PM
was about as painful as it gets.

ZagAddict
02-18-2010, 08:03 PM
This conference game against LMU and the out-of-conference game against Duke are the 2 worst EFFORTS I've seen from Gonzaga... the only thing close to this is the Portland St. game last year.

Wow :mad:

madness
02-18-2010, 08:03 PM
Just ugly all around...really bad game tonight....BUT not as bad as the reffing. Not sour grapes, the refs really let LMU get away with fouls and violations on both sides. A good team overcomes that.

Zags needed Red Bull at half time, looked like zombies.

btzag
02-18-2010, 08:06 PM
5 or 6 seed now.

So much to play for and you lay an egg like that. Wow.

USF could be explained but not this, and I am talking about the effort level, not just a cold shooting night.

bballbeachbum
02-18-2010, 08:08 PM
You know, I honestly think this is what GU is this year. Losing Pargo, Daye, Heytvelt, Downs, it shows in these games. These guys play a clunker once in a while. Up and down. Last year's Zags were steadier, more consistent.

It looks like playing in Spokane is iffy, at best.

was just going to post, we are who we are! this is who we are

big game Saturday

Zagineer
02-18-2010, 08:42 PM
Speechless. :(