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BobZag
01-27-2010, 10:03 AM
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/sports/highschool/basketball/boys/index.html?site=default&tpl=Player&ID=34533&season=current

He scored 23 (averaging 23.6) ppg last night vs Auburn Riverside. Averaging roughly the same as Dranginis.

tightface
01-27-2010, 10:10 AM
Kingma is over 25ppg. Both Bell and Kingma are top3 in scoring in Seattle area.

zagboni
01-27-2010, 10:53 AM
Saw Kingma play for the first time this year last night. Had 31 in in the 3rd quarter and the sat out the 4th. This kid can flat out play. Why the zags are not high on this kid anymore is beyond me. Roughly the same size as Bell, great handles, sees the floor, and can create on his own. The kid can flat out score. Forget shooting, he has a bad night and can still drop 20, if he is on forget it. Gambles on defense but is quick enough to get back and recover. I would love to see this kid stay in state, and Bell too for that matter. They are both amazing.

bigparb
01-27-2010, 10:20 PM
heard young stockton owned him at the team camp.....when that happens the interest goes down....

zagboni
01-28-2010, 08:26 AM
wasn't that just a few months after coming off of his broken arm?

BroncoZAG615
01-28-2010, 08:57 AM
Gonzaga has offered Brett.

I can't imagine him being our number one option (Bell, Wiltjer) but the offer is out there. Interesting that his other offers are from programs like Seattle, Portland, and Portland State.

cjm720
01-28-2010, 09:11 AM
Love the idea of Kingma. A dead eye shooter with big time range. He can continue to develop an overall game while coming off our bench for some daggers!

CDC84
01-28-2010, 09:29 AM
If Gonzaga doesn't get Bell Jr., they need to get someone of equal ability or the program will regress - and I almost never say that. They need a legit, top 50 level guard like Steven Gray or Matt Bouldin. He can't be a project or a kid who does 2 things well, but who can't do much of anything else. He needs to be an immediate contributor. I'm not saying Kingma isn't good enough, but Gray/Bouldin need to be the measuring stick for what the staff goes after.

cjm720
01-28-2010, 09:36 AM
So, CDC, you don't think Kyle D. fits the bill? He's a combo guard with ice in his veins...

CDC84
01-28-2010, 09:47 AM
I like Kyle D. and think he's going to be really good in time, but he needs to physically fill out, and he needs to get better defensively. I don't anticipate he's going to be like Bouldin or Gray his first year. The Zags need a legit top 50 prospect who could step in on any Pac 10 or Big 12 team and make a difference. If the Zags don't get one this spring, it will have been three classes since they've grabbed a combo guard of this nature. That's too long for a program at their level.

ZagNative
01-28-2010, 11:44 AM
Seattle-area fans will have a nice opportunity to see Gary play Friday night at the Les Schwab Shootout at the Showare Center in Kent, when his Kentridge team will face Josh Smith's Kentwood team. Details in this story in the Kentwood Reporter (http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/south_king/ken/sports/82624022.html).

Nice pic in the story:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_UkLNCxT74w4/S2H1M7-qNRI/AAAAAAAAE0I/ZKNXC3kBTRc/2010-01-28%20Gary%20Bell.jpg

The opening match of the event will feature a 2:00 pm matchup of Christian Bhren's Tahoma team v. Central Kitsap.

maynard g krebs
01-28-2010, 12:01 PM
Anyone know if Behrens is hurt? He hasn't been listed in the last 2 Tahoma box scores that I've seen.

dim4sum
01-28-2010, 12:15 PM
a little birdie tells me, Cameron Dollar may have the inside track on Kingma.
Dollar loses a big, skilled guard/sometimes forward in Mike Boxley, and Kingma would fit in nicely, because of his vast scoring potential. But given the choice, methinks he would pick the Zags. I don't think David Stockton represents any competion for Kingma, except in the on-the-court smarts department. Few and his coaches are enamored with the surrogate coach idea and that's where Stockton comes in. Some changes need to be made in the Zag backcourt, lest Meech starts getting a feeling of entitlement. He most definitely is not an on-the-court coach.

BobZag
01-28-2010, 02:43 PM
Dranginis and Bell are my wish list. Few is halfway there.

Nice pic, ZN.

tightface
01-28-2010, 03:46 PM
Dollar has that player already, in undersized senior Taylor Olson. Olson singlehandedly kept Seattle Prep from the state tournament when they had both Martell Webster and Spencer Hawes. Not a Dollar recruit though and didn't play much for Coach Callero prior.

Olson hasn't played that much in his college career other than as a 3pt specialist. Obviously Kingma is more of an accomplished all-around scorer but their game is very similar. Just sayin'.

To CDC's point, I think either Kingma or Bell is an absolute necessity. If we don't get another under the radar scorer this year and we lose out on one of those two it could be a rough couple of years in the 11-12 and 12-13 seasons.

zagfan08
01-28-2010, 04:20 PM
Olson matched Martell with 34, then Garrison Carr finished off Prep a few days later. A team with 2 top 10 NBA draft picks as upperclassmen failed to reach the state tournament. Unbelievable.

I think CDC is right, we need to get another top 50 guard and soon. Bell would be a huge get and at the perfect time. But word is he likes UW (still trying to figure out why) so Gonzaga needs a nice run to help convince him and other good recruits to come here.

Kingma would be a pretty decent back up plan, but he can't bring everything to the game that Bell can. Brett has decent athleticism, but I'm not sure he'll ever be a great defender against D1 players. Lights out shooter and would be a nice complimentary player, but Bell is clearly the preferred option.

tightface
01-28-2010, 04:35 PM
Agreed. Totally forgot about Garrison Carr, the gunslinger. That Issaquah team also had Hans Gasser, if I recall.

I'm a little nervous that as a perennial top 25 program we can't generate national recruiting buzz consistently among top100 recruits. Under the radar is fine but isn't necessarily sustainable year after year. Obviously evaluating talent and devloping talent are another story and recruiting rankings only mean so much, but with a national name brand program that we have shouldn't this be easier?

zagboni
01-29-2010, 10:01 AM
heard young stockton owned him at the team camp.....when that happens the interest goes down....

FYI, Kingma and stockton were on the same team at this camp. So not sure who heard this from. But I wouldn't listen to that guy again.

bigparb
02-19-2010, 08:05 AM
FYI, Kingma and stockton were on the same team at this camp. So not sure who heard this from. But I wouldn't listen to that guy again.

Trust me....if I can't listen to that guy, then nothing on this board could ever possibly be believed....and that's all I'm gonna say about that....

BroncoZAG615
02-19-2010, 08:12 AM
Ray Giacoletti was at Gary's overtime loss against B-Prep. I really do imagine that either Few or Ray were at nearly every one of Gary's games this season which is great.

Lorenzo Romar was also at the game. I imagine the UW staff and the GU staff don't sit near eachother.

zagboni
02-19-2010, 02:39 PM
[QUOTE=BroncoZAG615;539880]Ray Giacoletti was at Gary's overtime loss against B-Prep. I really do imagine that either Few or Ray were at nearly every one of Gary's games this season which is great.

I think Rules are that the univ (GU) can only go to 5 of his games per year.

Romar was just scouting the place thinking that it was possibly a neutral site to play GU. Oh wait, nevermind I won't go there.

Not sure why Romar was there then, because they obviously don't recruit shooters.

Jedster
02-19-2010, 04:15 PM
Read on Percy Allen's blog that Romar said there will be a few recruits at the UW/UCLA game on Saturday. ESPN is doing College Gameday there. Wonder if Bell is one of the recruits who will be attending?

btzag
02-19-2010, 08:49 PM
I hope he is there. Watching UW play should turn anyone and everyone off to their program. Honestly, ignore Romar's used-car salesman pitch and what do you have?

Really don't like our record with Seattle area players though, so I am not that hopeful. For whatever reason they all seem to think that the biggest arena or conference is the ticket to greatness so Spokane does not fit the bill. I mean we couldn't even get the two elite kids from the Jesuit HS in tacoma.

However I trust whatever our coaches have to settle with. Kinda like settling with Harris at the 4 this year after the loss of Daye. Brutal.

WallaWallaZag
02-20-2010, 03:55 AM
the huskies tend to play very well at home and their semi-playground style of offense is understandably attractive to metro area guard and wing prospects. also, romar may not be able to coach a lick, but his record seems to indicate that he's a pretty darn good recruiter.