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rijman
11-29-2009, 08:29 PM
Lavin on the Pac 10 this season, during UP-WVU game;

"You have to call it like it is, they are awful. I don't see it getting better in the course of this year."

"it's the most down the league's been in 25-30 years."

Lavin says UW and Cal are the only good teams in the Pac 10 with the possible exception of WSU.

I know the Pac 10 is having an off year thus far, but I didn't expect Lavin to be so blunt and honest about it.

ZagSlug
11-29-2009, 08:59 PM
As soon as everyone in the Pac 10 is at .500 at the end if the season we will here that the conference is really tough and that every team should get into the NCAA Tournament. ;)

jim77
11-29-2009, 09:31 PM
As soon as everyone in the Pac 10 is at .500 at the end if the season we will here that the conference is really tough and that every team should get into the NCAA Tournament. ;)

Not with the OCC performances thus far.

WallaWallaZag
11-29-2009, 09:54 PM
i think slug was writing tongue-in-cheek...we need an official sarcasm smiley face.

ZagSlug
11-30-2009, 09:23 AM
Only somewhat tongue in cheek since the big conferences get way to many teams in that are barely above .500

Next you have the talking heads raving about the improvement in UCLA/other BCS school when they squeak out a win at home versus UW or Cal and suddenly Arizona is in the tournament

dim4sum
11-30-2009, 10:03 AM
If not for some flagrant home town officiating, Montana would have surely knocked the UW out of the unbeaten ranks last night. A league can't simply lose its seven or eight best underclassman to the NBA and then expect business as usual the next season.

Coug Tracks
11-30-2009, 04:22 PM
If not for some flagrant home town officiating, Montana would have surely knocked the UW out of the unbeaten ranks last night. A league can't simply lose its seven or eight best underclassman to the NBA and then expect business as usual the next season.That's been par for the course the last 2-3 years and yes it has obviously caught up with the conference. I wouldn't forget about ASU or even Arizona just yet. As for WSU, there are a lot of challenges inside and the team is pretty young overall. Probably a year away as long as Thompson sticks around.

The Pac 10 obviously looks way down this year.

hoopster777
11-30-2009, 05:21 PM
With the exception of the Big East and to some extent the ACC, the BCS conferences success seems to be cyclical. There are significant up years, and significant down years. SEC was awful last year, possibly worse than the Pac 10 is this year (1 win in the NCAA tourny for the entire conference in 2009) and they have 2 more schools than Pac 10. SEC is up though this year. Pac 10 will rebound by next season as it seems almost every team except Cal is EXTREMELY young.

Big East because of its sheer size is able to remain as the 1st or 2nd best conference every year. ACC just has so much basketball history and majority of the schools focus on basketball more than football therefore they are able to reload most years. Been a while since the ACC was considered "down" by the Pac 10 standards this season.

deathchina
12-01-2009, 12:40 PM
Interesting....

As bad as the Pac-10 has been, they are up to 4th in conference RPI.

WCC is down to 12th.

This according to KenPom.com

CDC84
12-01-2009, 01:51 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/college-basketball/article/2009-11-17/3-pointers-talent-tells-tale-pac-10-trouble



It's awfully early to be leaping to grand conclusions, but since we'd already leaped to this one in preseason, we're really just affirming our stance: The Pac-10 is going to have a hard time.

Is that based on Oregon State's dismal opening loss to Texas A&M-Corpus Christi, Stanford's double-digit loss to San Diego and UCLA's double-overtime stumble against Cal State-Fullerton? Yes. But not entirely.

It's mostly based on the number of very good players who completed their careers last season, either by running out of eligibility (Taylor Rochestie, Jon Brockman) or running for the NBA (Chase Budinger, James Harden). Seven of the league's top 20 scorers from 2008-09 are back, and three of the top 10 rebounders.

And though there are always good high school players in California, which is the league's most important source of new talent, five players from the state were in last year's Scout.com top 50 -- and one ended up at a Pac-10 school: forward Tyler Honeycutt (UCLA). Jordan Hamilton (Texas), Hollis Thompson (Georgetown), Michael Snaer (Florida State) and Renardo Sidney (Mississippi State) went elsewhere.

Pac-10 schools signed five top-50 players combined.

If you don't have old talent and don't have new talent, it means you probably don't have enough talent.