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75Zag
08-17-2009, 04:43 PM
Father forgive me for I have sinned. It has been 25 years (give or take) since my last confession.

My sin is that I don't care about international basketball. I don't care about a bunch of people I don't know running around and playing by rules that they appear to have made up themselves. Kind of reminds me of all the Australian Rules Football games on ESPN when they were getting started in the late 70s or early 80s. Did Bill Walton play in Istanbul? Did Kareem play in Serbia? Did Kevin Love play in Wherethehellisitkstan? I don't think so!

Lately the web site which supposedly worships my favorite team in the whole world, the Saints of Gonzaga, has become an endless chatterbox about which player from Zcrianniacuutya is playing the best, or which player from Xrroorxorrno has the inside track on winning the Xreaactoccrocci trophy which is awarded to the fastest but smallest player able to perform a proculawwrty in open court before a crowd of at least 40 live spectators.

I try to care, I really do. But notwithstanding the excitement of nearly every other contributor on guboards.com, I just can't teach myself to give a d*a*m*n about any of it. Can't we just get back to plain old USA NCAA basketball?

Perhaps another two weeks of fishing here on the Oregon coast will teach me humility - although the big fish I caught today would have made Rick Pitino big and proud.

Go Bulldogs! Get Bigger!

BobZag
08-17-2009, 04:54 PM
You must also learn restraint. Restraint from reading threads dedicated to your GU brethren who go to ply their trade overseas. Unless that big fish is a hot blonde into bondage, nobody is twisting your arm to read those threads.

kitzbuel
08-17-2009, 05:33 PM
Poor 75Zag. You do seem to be so alone. Apparently even Mark Few and staff do not share you affliction.

RenoZag
08-17-2009, 05:57 PM
I thought fishermen were less cranky when they land big ones. . .;)

75Zag
08-17-2009, 06:01 PM
My loneliness is not helped by reading that in the Scout 2010 top 100 prospects, only Josh Smith has listed GU as a possible school. And I think we all know how that is not going to happen.

So the GU class of 2010 will not include any top 100 kids, even after our Sweet 16 adventure last year? That seems totally unfair (note I was unable to check Rivals rankings and school choices).

My fishing pals have adjourned to "Annie's" in Astoria, Oregon which, as I understand it, is a place where young women go to get some exercise after work by twisting around a pole. But my travel treaty with the lovely Mrs. '75 allows unlimited fishing, but not for redheads. So I will continue to offer my musings on GU basketball until they get back. Lucky you.

Go Bulldogs! Get Bigger!

ZagNative
08-17-2009, 06:05 PM
Well, just a thought ... You know what I do when there's nothing new on guboards I want to read? I go out and find some original content to post regarding things I find interesting. I suggest you do the same. What's out there right now, in the dog days of summer, is international ball.

It's a big old world out there, and whether or not you like it, the little school on Boone Avenue has a big reach.

However, there's always the alternative. You can get on your boat and just keep on going.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DZH2cmCoois/RvrvuiusLlI/AAAAAAAADLo/rUKNfKB_rys/s400/ship_sailing_off_edge_of_world.jpg

Baldwinzag
08-17-2009, 06:25 PM
My loneliness is not helped by reading that in the Scout 2010 top 100 prospects, only Josh Smith has listed GU as a possible school. And I think we all know how that is not going to happen.

So the GU class of 2010 will not include any top 100 kids, even after our Sweet 16 adventure last year?


Considering our 2011 class will potentially feature three Top-50 recruits b/w Kyle Wiltjer, Nick Johnson, LeBryan Nash, or even Gary Bell Jr, I have no problem conceding our '10 Class will not feature a Top-100 kid. We have the horses to overcome any deficiancies in next season's class, besides 2010 is a disspointingly weak class overall. It'll be all good.

HOOTER
08-17-2009, 06:34 PM
My sin is that I don't care about international basketball.

This isn't a sin by any stretch. I really don't either. Once a player graduates I tend to lose track of what their doing with their life. This is mainly due to the fact that next year there will be another Zag team to obsess over.

I wish nothing but the best for every Zag that graduates and moves on to the next level, whether that's in another country, in the NBA or something that doesn't even involve basketball. I just don't have the time or desire to religiously follow their life after Gonzaga basketball, especially if it involves playing basketball for "Wherethehellisitkstan". This may sound crazy, but I'm much more concerned about guys like Sacre, Gray, Goodson and Bouldin than I am about Downs, Pargo, Heytvelt and even Daye right now.

That being said, It only makes sense that many would want to follow the careers of former Zags so the discussion about whoever playing in Wherethehellisitkstan doesn't bother me in the least. I just choose not to participate.

CaliforniaZaggin'
08-17-2009, 07:10 PM
Once a Zag, always a Zag. If a GU alum signs with the Saturn Cosmonauts of the Jovian Basketball League, then I'll be sure to log on to intergalactic-basketball.com everyday to read box scores and the game recaps.

As far as international recruits, better get used to it. Like everything else, college basketball is going global.

krozman
08-17-2009, 07:31 PM
I watch about 2 quarters of NBA basketball a year, and zero international unless it's the olympics. GU basketball, tip to tip every game. I am not alone.

bartruff1
08-17-2009, 07:39 PM
Go and sin no more....

snebzag
08-17-2009, 07:55 PM
I watch about 2 quarters of NBA basketball a year, and zero international unless it's the olympics. GU basketball, tip to tip every game. I am not alone


You are not alone. That summed it up pretty well. I do like tid bits of former Zags, but don't go out of my way to follow stats. If the Uniform does not say Gonzaga or ZAGS my basketball erection needs Viagra.

Zag79
08-18-2009, 12:32 AM
your not alone, i could give a hoot about international basketball. but if it is updating me on a former player and how they are doing, well im all ears. who doesnt like to hear updates on guys that gave us so much like jeremy, micah, blake, cory, etc? and as far as those of you that watch "2 quarters" of the nba all year, sucks to be you. your missing the best players in the world giving us a show. i love zags hoops as much as anyone on this board, but it doesnt mean i want to miss kobe hanging 81 or not see bron bron become possibly the best player ever... ill enjoy both!

Gonzdb8
08-18-2009, 08:39 AM
I watch about 2 quarters of NBA basketball a year, and zero international unless it's the olympics. GU basketball, tip to tip every game. I am not alone.

thats too bad for you. i watch 100s of games per year and it turns out almost all of them are better than the majority of college basketball games i see. funny how that happens when the best basketball players in the world get together in the same league for 82 games per year. i am not alone.

cjm720
08-18-2009, 09:03 AM
Not sure if '75 is griping about former Zags playing on the international scene or international recruiting efforts. Personally, it's the dullest point of the year for Zags hoops and I'm more than happy to read about Micah and Jeremy's journey, and Elias' development. The international game has a ton of appeal, as it's more about team ball than the individual player. Less sexy sure, but still appealing if you like the game of hoop.

Go (future and former) Zags!!!!

HOOTER
08-18-2009, 09:06 AM
i watch 100s of games per year and it turns out almost all of them are better than the majority of college basketball games i see.

Theres something that college basketball has that the NBA is missing. I'm not quite sure how to put my finger on it. I guess there's just a raw intensity and passion for the game that seems to be lacking in the NBA. Most college basketball players know they'll probably never make a dime playing basketball. Their playing for the love of the game and an extremely remote shot at a national title. When a player makes the transition to the pro level, money seems to take over as priority #1. It's this unadulterated love for the game that makes college basketball better than the NBA by far in my book.

NotoriousZ
08-18-2009, 09:53 AM
Theres something that college basketball has that the NBA is missing. I'm not quite sure how to put my finger on it. I guess there's just a raw intensity and passion for the game that seems to be lacking in the NBA. Most college basketball players know they'll probably never make a dime playing basketball. Their playing for the love of the game and an extremely remote shot at a national title. When a player makes the transition to the pro level, money seems to take over as priority #1. It's this unadulterated love for the game that makes college basketball better than the NBA by far in my book.

Another downer for me about the NBA is all of the whining at the officials (and yelling at the officials). Sure it happens in college hoops also, but the refs are far more likely to give out technical fouls, so you don't see it as much. If the NBA decided to let the officials crack down on these millionaire crybabies, I'd tune in.

But I'll check out a game featuring Ammo, Turiaf, or Daye from time to time.

krozman
08-19-2009, 03:11 PM
thats too bad for you. i watch 100s of games per year and it turns out almost all of them are better than the majority of college basketball games i see. .

The definition of "better" is clearly subjective in this instance. I can see people who prefer to watch the "best of the best" play, and thats the NBA. HOwever, I think the imperfections of college basketball players, the effort that overcomes talent, and the attitude makes it more entertaining and watchable. Plus the game is fast paced enough to keep your interest.

That being said, I am the exact opposite on football. I only watch NFL. College football is full of mediocre talent usually getting beaten into the ground by a superior team. I can only watch so many incomplete passes and missed assignments before I just turn off the TV in frustration or bordeom.

I am not alone :lmao:

bballbeachbum
08-19-2009, 04:11 PM
The definition of "better" is clearly subjective in this instance. I can see people who prefer to watch the "best of the best" play, and thats the NBA. HOwever, I think the imperfections of college basketball players, the effort that overcomes talent, and the attitude makes it more entertaining and watchable. Plus the game is fast paced enough to keep your interest.

That being said, I am the exact opposite on football. I only watch NFL. College football is full of mediocre talent usually getting beaten into the ground by a superior team. I can only watch so many incomplete passes and missed assignments before I just turn off the TV in frustration or bordeom.

I am not alone :lmao:

You are not alone krozman :D

association pros representing us internationally has become their greatest expression imo, free of David Stern's puppet strings as much as possible, and not coddled or game-massaged by the officials but even bad-called repeatedly as they face the world's perspective on us. the association's game has too many high priced half-steppers for me, although some players and some playoffs still can get me to the tube to watch. But what a few of them are doing in representing the USA restores some faith in them from me.

college football? are you kidding? the BCS? don't get me started :D